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Regrettable Juvenilia
12:05 / 27.09.04
A trunculent Scotsman called Brown
Was eating cookie dough with a spoon
Until Tony said "Gordon
"Don't you think you've had more than
"Your share? Pass the tub to Geoff Hoon."
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:26 / 27.09.04
The Chancellor of the Exchequer,
Once stirred a fondue with his pecker,
Andrew Marr said "de iure
It should be fruit purée,
But just look at the face on the fecker."
 
 
deja_vroom
12:34 / 27.09.04
Oh, I'm so game:

Haus, maybe you could avoid mentioning me in that particular derisive tone of yours, since it's been ages since I posted (pictures or whatever else) in the Conversation, a forum which these days I avoid like the plague. I really dislike your tone, and the feel of vain frivolousness it lends to my online behaviour here.
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> Those were only pictures, you arse. I posted them for no other reason than that I had them in my computer, and that that was a thread for the posting of pictures. Since there were no explicit rules as to the maximum amount of pictures one could send, I really didn't see a problem in posting some once in a while. I did it innocently, without any agenda or sinister purpose that could justifiably make some 'lithers jump and scream the way they did. I posted them just as I could not have posted them.
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> Now - I value my time more than anything else, and I'd hate to waste it trying to come to terms with why some 'lithers were so jumpy at something they might as well have ignored (keep pressing that "Ignore" button, you'll never see my ugly face again, you idiots).
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> After a certain point, I started doing it just to see some 'lithers jump (and jump they did, predictably enough); that stopped being funny quite fast, and then I ceased to post on that thread.
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> I don't know what exactly people were thinking about my motivations in posting those pictures; but they certainly were perceived as sinister and condemnable; it got so ridiculous, so fast, that I didn't even bother answering.
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> The only reason I'm writing this is because I thought you would have grown out of it. It wasn't an issue then, it isn't now. If there's a case against my behaviour, I'd like to hear it. But I sure as hell won't take this sort of shit anymore.


Now, um, angry angry PM, yes. There's an "arse" there (the "idiots" was directed at all the people who were spitting their skulls out everytime I posted a pic of myself - you were not amongst them, IIRC). I think I could have ended it after the first paragraph, but I also - quite naively so - tried (in a way that could have been more ellaborate, I admit) to explain why I thought it wasn't a nice thing of you to bring that issue back again, and then you have 5 paragraphs of it, which is an attempt to explain to you how I saw that whole imbroglio, and is *not* abusive to you in any way.

Now, a "considerate" response would not have be necessarily a "polite" response. It would be a response which addressed, it doesn't matter in which scathing terms you chose to express yourself, the issue I had brought to your attention. I would have loved to go on from that, on the PMs. But instead, I got:

Haus: Can I post this PM in the Conversation? I think it's the best thing I've seen all day.

T.


Maybe we can agree that that wasn't really the best effort you could have done to try and clarify this issue. You say I'm all for "losing my shit", but look, I tried *again*, I tried once more even though I sort of new what kind of answer I would be getting:

Jade: No. Maybe you could just answer my question, and we leave it like this.

Then ol' Haus maybe felt like stringing someone around and decided to pay an unnecessary and un-cooperative attention to the finer terms of the debate:

Haus: You didn't *ask* a question.

Oh, really? You mean, like, you cannot really, trying as hard as you can, the best that you can, discern what was my intention in writing you that PM, even when it started with: Haus, maybe you could avoid mentioning me in that particular derisive tone of yours. Mmm. Selective stupidity? I don't know - but I'm too old for this shit and can very well read between the lines, so I just answered with:

Jade: Well you just answered it.

Then Haus again - some more dodging:

Haus: That doesn't mean anything, Jade.

And that was when I saw I wouldn't be getting anything out of that.

My errors? Well, as I said, I could have stopped after the first paragraph. The only insult I can see is the "arse", really, and there's not much I can say but that I went head over feet with that one. If I can try to minimize the issue, it's by saying I was pissed off at the time, and if I had given my PM some drawer time before sending it to you, the "arse" bit most likely would not have made it. Compare with the "cunt" insult, which was totally cold-headed and still not taken back.

Now lets talk about how abusive my first PM was.
 
 
Bear
12:39 / 27.09.04
Keep it going! This thread is making Monday more bearable.

I think they only way to settle all current and future arguments on Barbelith is to post a pic of every member on Am I Hot or Not and whoever gets the highest rating is crowned "Greatest Person Ever" and automatically wins every argument. Ever.
 
 
deja_vroom
12:45 / 27.09.04
Stop the "witticismos". It's making *my* Monday unbearable.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
12:45 / 27.09.04
But that's enough about me; let's talk about me.
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
13:08 / 27.09.04
A grumpy old soul called GB,
Was having the PM to tea,
When asked if in his brew,
He'd have one lump or two,
He replied 'Fuck you, you power-coveting bastard! You shall never lead New Labour! Never! Here begins the 1000 year Reich!"


I'm not very good at this.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:08 / 27.09.04
Yup. It was rude, self-absorbed, prima donnaish, and cretinous. And, as you say, you insulted me, for no reason except that I had broken some magic rule about not ever mentioning you, which you had never previously mentioned and failed adequately to explain in your angry angry PM. Had I insulted you while making such a demand, would you have responded with "Oh yes, sorry, Jade, please let me do anything you tell me to"? Would you bollocks. Thus, you are a hypocrite.

Young Jade, by a reference dismayed,
Showed his fury could not be allayed,
And gave proof to the rumour
He had no space for humour
When his face was so widely displayed
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
13:08 / 27.09.04
I'm voting for bearable.

Bear, what happens to the poor sod that gets the lowest rating?
 
 
Sax
13:29 / 27.09.04
All pile on.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
13:37 / 27.09.04
flyboy, are getting your girlfriend on me?

Yes Gambit. Flyboy has psychic, super-strength mind powers that he uses to control me.

I guess that instead of addressing any words to me, drone of super-psychic Flyboy, you should instead only talk to the man who controls me. As a woman I am clearly not intelligent enough to think for myself, make any decisions about what I feel is misogynistic and I have absolutely no sense of judgement at all. I never act on my own, first my father commanded me and then, when I started to date he passed his powers of command to each of my successive boyfriends. For males always have control over females. It's a proven fact. Thus demonstrating that people can 'set' me on other people.
 
 
Ganesh
13:42 / 27.09.04
This is excellent. Barbelith is revivifying.
 
 
w1rebaby
13:46 / 27.09.04
Anna De L, yesterday:





Flyboy:

 
 
deja_vroom
13:57 / 27.09.04
This is so good.

This part, specially: "for no reason except that I had broken some magic rule about not ever mentioning you, which you had never previously mentioned and failed adequately to explain in your angry angry PM

Of course, there's not such a thing as an eleventh commandment saying "thou shalt not mock"; but still, you live in society and I think I don't have to *explain* why mentioning someone under a derisive, patronizing light will make that someone come to you, justifiably upset. That it needs formal explanation is a tad wearisome, but I can try something like "Please mr. Haus, it makes my heart go boo-boo", if you want. Yes, it's "magic", just in the same sense that "please" is the "magic word".

Had I insulted you while making such a demand, would you have responded with "Oh yes, sorry, Jade, please let me do anything you tell me to"? Would you bollocks.

You are of course right.

Had I received such a request from you in a fashion that irked me for its offensiveness, well, I would - even if only to save time and patience in the future, for both of those are precious to me - addressed the issue directly and at once, and would not have given it chance to become what it became, here.

Replying with that particular patronizing tone and content: (Can I get your permission to post your PM on the Conversation, Jade? It's the best thing I've seen all day.) - which caused me to PM you in the first place, bespeaks for stupidity or utter lack of interest in pursuing some sort of clarifying process. Had you wrote me something like what I wrote you, you know what I think I would have done? I would have witten you back something like this:

"No. I don't like your tone and I don't see why I should do what you ask me, when you do it in such a truculent fashion. Go cry yourself to sleep, dumbtwit."

Or any other short, to-the-point variant, that I knew would explain my stand in a simple, quick fashion. I'm pretty sure even *I* could get some enlightenment out of something like that.

And you can put my apologies between quotes, but one of the benefits of one taking oneself seriously (and one of the reasons why I still choose to take myself seriously; the other is that, since apparently no one else is doing it, *someone* has to do it) is the willingness to admit when one's misbehaved, and quickly offer an honest "my bad".

'Ol Haus did climb up a Mount
From where he could mock all around.
There he cannot hear
Us laughing down here:
We can see his ass-hole from the ground.
 
 
Ganesh
14:03 / 27.09.04
A Mound, surely?
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
14:04 / 27.09.04
You're all such terrible, terrible people.
 
 
deja_vroom
14:08 / 27.09.04
There can be a case for "mount" and "ground" to be homophone rhymes, right?

(One of the reasons why I still like Barbelith - fisticuffs stop to try and shed light over literary topics...)
 
 
w1rebaby
14:08 / 27.09.04
This is what it sounds like when doves cry.
 
 
deja_vroom
14:10 / 27.09.04
And it's a Mount, really.

Ol' Mount Arsehollery. To you left. Up. Up. There, see the tiny flag with an "H" on it?
 
 
Bear
14:11 / 27.09.04
Screw the doves.

Barbelith is probably the only place people can argue with poems.

Scew the Hot or Not idea lets start a video conference and have a freestyle poem battle.
 
 
_Boboss
14:15 / 27.09.04
'Yes Gambit. Flyboy has psychic, super-strength mind powers that he uses to control me.'

has he now? i thought an email would have done it.

your posts are getting quite spittly anna. they're not really structured in a way that makes responding to them easy, but it is quite fun watching someone lose their shit so completely:

'As a woman I am clearly not intelligent enough to think for myself, make any decisions about what I feel is misogynistic and I have absolutely no sense of judgement at all.'

bit harsh on yourself there i reckon love. it's not because you're a woman. it's obviously cos flyboy has you under his mental control. that's mental control.

and so, if men *always* have control (i think daddy may have been misleading you, no girl's ever told me that one before) over females, why did your dad have to pass it over? and how can that demonstrate that 'people' can 'set' you on other people? i thought it was just men? flyboy, ease up a bit, looks like it could be leading to brain damage.

honestly, men
 
 
Ganesh
14:18 / 27.09.04
There can be a case for "mount" and "ground" to be homophone rhymes, right?

Sure. Written down, though, it jars slightly. Distracts slightly from the overall effect, IMHO.

Not bad, though. B+ for efford.
 
 
grant
14:22 / 27.09.04
I think this means Haus has to do one in Portuguese now.
 
 
deja_vroom
14:27 / 27.09.04
C'mon, it's established canon! I think it's worth an A- (for my use of extremely common vocabulary, instead of some of the more adventurous forms tried out by Haus, for instance)
 
 
Ganesh
14:56 / 27.09.04
The apostrophe should really be at the end of "Ol'" too, seeing as it signifies a missing letter. I'm becoming stupidly cranky about these things...
 
 
deja_vroom
15:03 / 27.09.04
(noticed that, too... moderation today is slow...)
 
 
Tryphena Absent
15:08 / 27.09.04
Do you really have absolutely no idea how misogynistic you seem?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:14 / 27.09.04
Dear Jade, neither witty nor bright,
Was at rhyming predictably shite.
So he sat on his own,
Blowing his homophone -
Would a picture make everything right?


Actually, the mount/mound controversy is rather dwarfed by the terrible rhythm in Jade's limerick. Fair play, it's not his first language, and it's terribly impressive (dog walking on hind legs and all that), but every syllable is off, just about.

And you can put my apologies between quotes, but one of the benefits of one taking oneself seriously (and one of the reasons why I still choose to take myself seriously; the other is that, since apparently on one else is doing it, *someone* has to do it) is the willingness to admit when one's misbehaved, and quickly offer an honest "my bad".

Quickly? Three days later and after having called me a cunt? Wow. You must be an enduring if somewhat confusing lover.
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
15:26 / 27.09.04

Mount or Mound?
 
 
Ex
15:28 / 27.09.04
Haus and Jade - could this not go back to being a private message exchange, or if either of you feel you're being harassed, a policy thread? Rather than bouncing around on the top of the Conversation like the tennis ball in the Blue Peter pond. Only less usefully.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:36 / 27.09.04


the

 
 
_Boboss
15:39 / 27.09.04
aw what, really? we're at really already? it's a shame you had to bottle it, i was nearly about to crack under the 'withering' sarcasm.

course not. i'm quite cosy with my feelings towards women/ my feelings towards women (cos, y'know, they definitely break down into an easy to define, one size fits all gang) are always quite cosy. hence, accusations of misogyny from hysterical suffragists worry me not a bit and tickle me quite a lot.

if i say rage looked quite fit (true dat), does that make me EVEN WORSE?
 
 
_Boboss
15:41 / 27.09.04
'cept for the hair and tatt and that. good thighs but.
 
 
deja_vroom
15:43 / 27.09.04
I was without access to the Internet for the weekend, that's all...

And quickly or belated, this does not change the element of sincerity. Does it, Haus?

Now we're really scrutinizing, aren't we? Dissecting every bit of detail, every lily-livered excuse of a gambit to pospond the end of this and stay waving that little flag of yours, while trying to forget the fact that you acted like a twat after I acted like a twat. Mmm-mmm. I still can see your ass-hole.

Oh, I think I could try and cook another rhyme, but the thought of punctuating this discussion with limericks is just too ridiculous and surreal (yes, even for Barbelith) for me to bear.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
15:47 / 27.09.04
Is Dirk saying "All the best with wanting to escape"?

And to whom did he send this sinister message? The 'lith demands to know.
 
  

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