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Big Brother 2004

 
  

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Ganesh
20:22 / 06.08.04
They're the peeps that have been truest to themselves, I find that quite exhilerating.

Jayboy doesn't know his own identity, psychologically-speaking, and Nadia's only recently realised hers.
 
 
NotBlue
20:26 / 06.08.04
fair play, good hug "cigarrete?"
 
 
Spaniel
20:32 / 06.08.04
Offtopic

Jimmy, grh is a great name!
 
 
NotBlue
20:36 / 06.08.04
(off topic) it stands for "good right hand"
 
 
NotBlue
20:39 / 06.08.04
aaw he got a cheer :-)
 
 
Spaniel
20:42 / 06.08.04
Poor bastard probably needed it.
 
 
Ganesh
20:45 / 06.08.04
Hahahhahahh! The Spam/Dan 'Gay Bar' montage was excellent; one wonders whether there's even the remotest chance that he might go off and have a wee think about some of that. Possibly not. It's also worth noting that, out of howevermany 'best bits', there were maybe two clips featuring Arsehead and Prictor. Considering he spent seven, eight weeks ensconced in VicWorld, it's rather sad that Spamlet did almost nothing remarkable in all that time.

He couldn't look at himself onscreen. All that effort, and he still can't take confidence in his appearance. Sad.
 
 
Spaniel
20:45 / 06.08.04
Christ, I'm welling up again.
 
 
NotBlue
20:45 / 06.08.04
I maintain he isnt a bad guy, especially considering where he grew up - the worst insult was "your a poof", shortly followed by "paki" and "coon". to hit against...
 
 
Spaniel
20:47 / 06.08.04
I'm in good company: Marco and Emma are crying.
 
 
Spaniel
20:48 / 06.08.04
Were those tears in Victor's eyes?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
20:49 / 06.08.04
Victor's face is a picture. Fuck you, sir.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
20:51 / 06.08.04
Fuck Victor, obviously, not you Boboss.
 
 
Spaniel
20:52 / 06.08.04
No Randy!

Offense taken!
 
 
Spatula Clarke
20:53 / 06.08.04
Fuck you, Boboss.

(Not really.)
 
 
NotBlue
20:54 / 06.08.04
bless::Bless
 
 
Spaniel
20:56 / 06.08.04
Me girlfriend's crying now.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:04 / 06.08.04
Glad Davina had the decency not to pull the winner away from her family this year.
 
 
Spaniel
21:05 / 06.08.04
And while I'm feeling soppy, I'd like to give a big thank you to our winner.

Cheers Ganesh.
 
 
NotBlue
21:05 / 06.08.04
the real question is, "is it ok to tell the Sun I love Miriam?"
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:10 / 06.08.04
Flip over the telly and watch Jim Davidson on tour, thanks to the BBC.

What was that about British society again?
 
 
Ganesh
21:11 / 06.08.04
Awwwwww. That was really touching: lots of teary-eyed moments. When Nadia's mother appeared, I was forced to pretend I'd got champagne bubbles up my nose.

A worthy winner. A really worthy winner. Sweetie.
 
 
Linus Dunce
21:12 / 06.08.04
Abso-fucking-lutely the right result.
 
 
Ganesh
21:13 / 06.08.04
And while I'm feeling soppy, I'd like to give a big thank you to our winner.

Cheers Ganesh.


That's sooo nice, you big hugglesome hugglester, you. I'm just waiting for the inevitable comedown. What'll I write about now?

Nadia's exit, though. Reminded of Miss World...
 
 
Spaniel
21:16 / 06.08.04
Abso-fucking-lutely the right result

A-fucking-men!

Seriously, Gance, you've made the series sooo much more enjoyable.
 
 
Ganesh
21:38 / 06.08.04
Seriously, Gance, you've made the series sooo much more enjoyable.

AHHWWWMAGAAWWWDDARLING!

*weeps (mascara running), fans face, clutches heaving bosom*
 
 
The Natural Way
22:24 / 06.08.04
I want to know when he's going to get the BB psychologist job.

Eh!

It's fun twin-bundling Barbelith's fave red elepharn'.

I, too, welled up for Nadia, but she kept making me laugh as well.
 
 
akira
22:34 / 06.08.04
Did I miss something?
 
 
Ganesh
22:35 / 06.08.04
Yes.
 
 
Ganesh
00:02 / 07.08.04
74% of the vote, then? Pretty impressive. Guess she must've mobilised the transphilic Portuguese bloc.



Watching the repeats now. Had a wonderful mini-BB party evening with Sleaze and Cherie, quaffing champagne to celebrate Nadia's glorious win.

And, on balance, I do still think it was a glorious win. I also don't resent the Spamster - for whom, I'll admit, I had a soft spot all along - too much. I think Dan's correct: he and Nadia actually had quite a lot in common, in terms of having constructed gender-personae for themselves in which their self-esteem was largely invested in outward presentation/appearance. Nadia has, naturally, been more successful in this than Jayboy.

The soundtrack for Jay's 'best bits' was probably the most apt: 'Gay Bar' and 'Fit But You Know It'. It's very noticeable, watching the footage again, that he's almost entirely unable to watch himself: despite spending a vaaast amount of time and effort pumping, preening, bronzing, zhouzhing, the self-loathing/criticism still rules supreme. It's also easy to confirm, looking back, that the majority of his significant interactions were with Dan; the stuff with Victor wasn't deemed worthy of repetition. I think that's also true in terms of psychological development: Jason's time spent in VicWorld didn't advance his Selfawarian experience a whit.

Ahhhh, watching Nadia's exit again...
 
 
Spatula Clarke
00:50 / 07.08.04
The other thing that the 74% suggests is that Jason probably wasn't that far off ending up in fourth, possibly even fifth. That makes his survival a lot less annoying.
 
 
Ganesh
01:11 / 07.08.04
Yeah. There were relatively few percentage points to split between the rest.

On Nadia's win: I think it's gonna be good for the trans community precisely because Nadia wasn't attempting, in any way, to represent the trans community; she was simply being Nadia. She was accepted by the housemates as a woman. She was, as far as I'm aware, accepted by the world outside the Big Brother house as a woman and, with the possible exception of Russell Brand's frankly imbecilic jokes on EFourum, C4's handling of Nadia's transsexualism was really pretty good. I suspect she'd demystified the subject for many, and is likely perceived as 'all woman' herself. She's good PR for the trans community.

When was her reassignment surgery again? I've had the nagging worry that a) she shouldn't really be smoking so heavily with oestrogens, and b) she ought to be actively dilating her neovagina - if it's relatively recent.

Don't s'pose either question's gonna come up in the Heat interview...
 
 
Triplets
01:47 / 07.08.04
Dilating what?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
02:10 / 07.08.04
Damn. Just got home so I missed all that...

As Grant Mitchell might say, I need to sort out my priorities

But I'd like to raise a glass, and I'm hoping anyone who's still awake'll join me, to Ganesh, without whose thoughts Big Brother this year wouldn't have been anything like as much fun.

Salud !
 
 
Madman in the ruins.
06:31 / 07.08.04
Nadia's exit remined me of when I saw Tina Turner in Concert. A stiff legged walk and lots of heaving Bossom.

Jay stared to look more and more like a Yu-Gi-Oh charater as the series wore on.

Reflections on this years BB.
They actually bonded, in the face of Evil/Inconsitent BB there were sevral small and useless rebellions. Silence Day and refusal to nominate spring to mind.
The first BB brother to have Sex, if you don't count Teen or Europian BB's
It was a more intresting mix of characters than in previous years. I think BB were tryig to play up the Homo/Hetro sex angle and ended up with a The jungle Cats. But it wasnt just a mix of diffrent sexual prefences, there were some definete clashes of presonalty.
Now speaking as a hetro male the whole exess of screen nudity. Mowing the lawn Naked, Baps baps and more baps, Mud westling and icing bilkinis-Did't do anything for me. In some instances it was like watching a TV programme with nudity in it with your parents. A whole "Eurg, put some clothes on quickly please" (And Ganesh can make of that what you will)

High points.
Fight Night (even though BB are trying to brus it under the carpet)
Slient Protest.
Michelle and Stu (awwwww. Heres hoping for a much publicised wedding and divorce in the space of 18 months)
Nadia's nicotine withdrawal.
Chained together task.
Dan talking sense/mediator (WTF was he doing in there in the first place)

Low points.
Ahmed, (plate smashing hyprocondriac. Trying to Fuck up the milltary challange deliberatly)
Vic (Makes Emienem look like a credible Gangster)
The Jungle Cat converations.
Big Brothers Inconsistency regarding rule breaking.
 
  

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