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DC Universe Surgery

 
  

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Uatu.is.watching
15:20 / 19.10.05
The Red Tornado has an ELEMENTAL willie!
 
 
Aertho
15:42 / 19.10.05
Hopefully, the slash will be played out as a Brokeback pastiche. Reddy, living in a tempestuous but happy marraige with Naiad in the North Pacific Gyre, hides a secret shame: an android body. The fixation, plus Naiad's contempt for Reddy's sometime affection for the human population, prompts him to carry out a synthezoid love affair with the only one who can understand his need for hero work as well as these strange robot "feelings". He meets Vision, a bot who feigns dispassioned rationale to hide his own regrets and spite toward his failed marriage. Reddy and Vizh carry out their relationship on the DL to avoid Naiad's tsunami wrath on the people that both have sworn to protect, but mostly they keep it secret for fear of being cast in the next Bjork video.
 
 
grant
16:26 / 19.10.05
I'd vote no on the Tomato.

The Golden Age one didn't have one neither, since she was Ma Hunkel.

But the Red Tornado I remember was always just a robot prone to malfunctioning. I doubt he'd have functions a nerdy comic-book engineer wouldn't think were necessary to his mission.

Vision, on the other hand, has gotta be hung.
 
 
Triplets
16:31 / 19.10.05
So, at least one of them is (i'd just say Big T is too). The next question: being androids who - presumably? - don't need to eat, do either of them have the necessary ports?
 
 
Mr Tricks
17:18 / 19.10.05
IIRC Vision absorbs most of his energy from the sun. He can "eat" in a simulation of food consumption but actually digests little if any. As a synthazoid he supposedly has synthetic analogues of each human organ as well as extra special ones that provide the various super abilities he has.

Um... wrong universe for this question/answer.

Red Tornado is more of a ROBOT/ANDROID possessed by a mystical tornado being/elemental
 
 
grant
18:50 / 19.10.05
The Red Tornado I remember really just had what I thought was a speaker grille for a mouth, so I doubt he ate.

I can't find any pictures of that exactly, though. It was a lot like Iron Man's mouth-slit.
 
 
Triplets
19:07 / 19.10.05
Well, they've both got hands.




For huggling, obviously.
 
 
Warewullf
19:19 / 19.10.05
I just flicked through The Return if Donna Troy (I know, her again...) and it mentions some connection she has with Harbinger (from CRISIS)- can anyone elaborate?
 
 
Aertho
19:44 / 19.10.05
I know they hung out on Themyscira, back when Phil Jimenez was doing his damnedest to give purpose to some of DCU's disparate and somewhat forgotten superherooines.

Harbinger's job was to document hero history, similar to what Monitor originally did. Since Wonder Woman was a significant product of the Post-Crisis DCU, she was busy. You can only imagine how much work she must have put into "documenting" Troia's Byrne'd up history.

If there was more of a connection, I'm not sure.
 
 
Mr Tricks
21:27 / 19.10.05
I kinda liked how this new series placed Harbinger as an alternate earth version of the baby who would grow up to be Donna Troy.
 
 
Aertho
21:38 / 19.10.05
Yeah, that was a sweet way of tying up even more loose ends. It was strange how Harbinger's origin story was so similar to Donna's, and now it makes sense. Also: gives place and motive to Dark Angel, more than just convenient WW2 era Polly enemy.
 
 
Mario
23:43 / 19.10.05
There appears to be some confusion on the subject. It's unclear whether Harbinger was one of the Donnas (as some believe) or that Dark Angel Donna was a similar being to Lyla (as I believe).

The fact that no incarnation of Donna Troy is a blond suggested the latter to me.
 
 
the Fool
00:22 / 20.10.05
I think what was suggested was that Donna was the 'anti-monitors' harbringer in one of her 'lives' and this went on to be Dark Angel. With the death of the actual Harbringer in Supes/Bats, her sphere of recording was given to Donna. She is the new harbringer and recorder of history, parallel history and near future of the DCU. Dunno if she can do the split into multiple selves trick though...
 
 
Aertho
00:44 / 20.10.05
Whaoh. So Harbinger's dead? Elaborate a little on that one.

And here:

She sought me out because Rhea was able to see that: Donna Troy, Wonder Girl, Troia, Darkstar, Dark Angel, Harbinger --I was all of them.

So she he was blond in one life. I think she was black and overweight in another. Where's my Byrne issues?
 
 
Mario
01:18 / 20.10.05
Lyla died in an issue of Superman/Batman, as I recall. Of course, bringing her back is a trivial retcon.

In a way, she's the bright mirror to the new Donna Troy.

Donna is a brunette, Lyla a blond.

Donna wears mostly black, Lyla bright primary colors.

Donna is multiple versions of one person combined. Lyla is one person who can separate into copies.

Donna was found by a woman, abandoned in a fire. Lyla was found by a man, floating in water.

They aren't the same person...but they are a lot alike.
 
 
ZF!
06:53 / 20.10.05
When someone refers to the Earth 1 Superman, and the Post Crisis Superman. They're not the same Superman right? Or are they?
 
 
Mario
09:42 / 20.10.05
That may actually be the key question of Infinite Crisis. Up until last week, the answer was yes....
 
 
Simplist
16:09 / 20.10.05
I'm not so sure about that -- Post-Crisis Superman's backstory and powers were always quite different than Earth-1 Superman's. E1 Supes was Superboy in his teens, could fly faster than light, move planets, didn't need to breathe, etc. P-C Supes didn't put on a costume until his early 20s (in fact his powers didn't really kick in fully until his late teens), requires a spaceship for interstellar travel, is considerably less invulnerable than his pre-Crisis predecessor, and so on. The author of this Newsarama article makes the argument that the Earth-1 Superman's story ended with Moore's "What ever happened to the Man of Tomorrow?" and that the post-Crisis Superman is a new character.
 
 
John Octave
17:05 / 20.10.05
Captain Marvel. One of the A's in SHAZAM stands for Achilles, right? So is Captain Marvel vulnerable in his heel?
 
 
ZF!
17:14 / 20.10.05
A in Shazam! stands for Atlas, Stamina of.
 
 
ZF!
17:21 / 20.10.05
oops you mean the other A. :-)
 
 
Mark Parsons
18:36 / 20.10.05
I'd vote no on the Tomato.

The Golden Age one didn't have one neither, since she was Ma Hunkel.


Has it ever been conclusively deterimined that Ma Hunkle has no tackle? Perhaps she is a forerunner of DOOM PATROL's hemaphroditic Rebis> One never knows...
 
 
Mr Tricks
20:43 / 20.10.05
I think she had Children (perhaps Grandchildren) otherwise why would she be called "ma"
 
 
Juan_Arteaga
01:35 / 21.10.05
Yes, Ma Hunkel had children. They were called the Tornado twins.

They showed up in Young Justice once.
 
 
gridley
02:01 / 21.10.05
Red Tornado got married to his girlfriend Kathy back in Kurt Busiek's mini-series in the 80s, so I'm going to assume he had a penis. True their love may have been bigger than a penis, maybe it was based on tiny fingertip tornadoes, or maybe it was just based on his big tin heart. But I think he had one.

Of course, I assume any masculine android that gets married has a penis. I'm just romantic like that.
 
 
Juan_Arteaga
02:15 / 21.10.05
Looking at his mouth, we sure as hell know it wasn't oral sex what she was looking for.

 
 
Evil Scientist
21:04 / 22.10.05
(Possible spoilers if you haven't read this JLA story yet.)

Just finished reading the JLA collected "Syndicate Rules" book, and a quick question from one who dips in and out of the DC universe.

The cosmic egg formed when the JLA defeated a rogue Guardian was being kept under watch by the League. At the end of the story Metron appears and messes with the League sensors so the egg can mature properly. Is this something to do with the Crisis? If not then what, in actual fact, is upwidat?
 
 
Triplets
00:38 / 06.11.05
Why did Superman grow a mullet?
 
 
FinderWolf
03:08 / 06.11.05
Supes grew it when he came back from the dead; could be just cause they were in style (well, not really) or more literally because he'd been in a pod regenerating his life force or whatever for months and just hadn't had a haircut in a while, then just kept it for that rugged Ka-Zar manly man sort of look. (At the time I also got the impression it was DC's version of changing his look in an ever so tiny way without really changing his costume or trademarked image, cause it's sort of a comics tradition to tweak a costume slightly - but not too much - when a major storyline change happens for a character, like, say, coming back from the dead)

As for the cosmic universe Egg from Busiek's stories, good question, I'd forgotten about that....time will tell if DC forgot about it too or if it will come into play in Infinite Crisis. Certainly, no one in the DCU has mentioned it since Busiek's story arc in the monthly JLA book, to my knowledge.
 
 
diz
03:12 / 06.11.05
The cosmic egg formed when the JLA defeated a rogue Guardian was being kept under watch by the League. At the end of the story Metron appears and messes with the League sensors so the egg can mature properly. Is this something to do with the Crisis? If not then what, in actual fact, is upwidat?

I don't know, but if it leads to a sequel to JLA/Avengers (where the egg comes from), I'm all for it.
 
 
eye landed
12:00 / 06.11.05
is there a batman comic anywhere that deals with his childhood trauma on a psychological level?

obviously, thats what the entire character is about. but has anyone ever really got down and analyzed it, like dr freud? im thinking something like arkham asylum but just the topic of childhood influence on the agenda.
 
 
Spaniel
13:33 / 06.11.05
Why the Christ would you want to read a Batman comic like that?
 
 
The Falcon
14:19 / 06.11.05
I'm guessing for a uni psych paper?
 
 
Spaniel
14:32 / 06.11.05
Batman's always my first port of call when I'm researching psychology.
 
 
Pooky Is Just My Pornstar Name
20:58 / 06.11.05
Supes grew it when he came back from the dead; could be just cause they were in style (well, not really)

Actually, Finder, I think you're not far off the mark there. If memory serves, Supes death and resurrection happened in the early to mid-eighties, when it was fashionable for men to have long hair. I believe several male superheroes during that time were sporting longer hair-does. Indeed, I think Nightwing had his hair long during the 80s and had it lopped off in the early 90s, when the trend for long hair was no longer de rigueur. That's on a meta level, though. If memory serves, the in comic book reason was that he was fighting with an enemy and said villain lopped off his queue in the fight.
 
  

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