BARBELITH underground
 

Subcultural engagement for the 21st Century...
Barbelith is a new kind of community (find out more)...
You can login or register.


DC Universe Surgery

 
  

Page: 1 ... 1516171819(20)2122232425... 44

 
 
Billuccho!
02:40 / 19.09.05
Are you thinking of Thriller? With Scabbard, who also once appeared in an Ambush Bug issue?

If I am right, my obscure comics knowledge rocks.
 
 
Billuccho!
02:42 / 19.09.05
Bet you a tenner I'm right.

 
 
X-Himy
02:58 / 19.09.05
Who can tell me things about Warlord?

What about Cameolot 3000?
 
 
This Sunday
03:12 / 19.09.05
That's it! Apparently my brain combined the character design with Ogun from Marvel. And, y'know, gun, severed head, sword... same difference, right? Now, to follow links and see what that series was about.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
06:50 / 19.09.05
I thought it was ridiculous but didn't think that it crossed the line into racism.

You're the expert...
 
 
FinderWolf
13:13 / 19.09.05
>> What about Cameolot 3000?

It was really good.

Seriously, the first miniseries ever, I think (predating even Marvel's Secret Wars and certainly prior to Crisis on Infinite Earths). I think they called it a "maxi-series" at the time. Well-writen by Mike W. Barr and gloriously drawn by Brian Bolland, it told the story of Arthur (and of course all the major Arthurian characters, both good and evil) rising again to defend Britain and the world from an alien invasion (not as goofy as it sounds). It wasn't part of DC continuity and was self-contained, didn't have any DCU characters in it whatsoever. Read like a fantasy-meets-sci-fi Arthurian story.

I remember there were large gaps in-between the final several issues as they came out, leading many to complain about the lateness of the book (the first time, to my knowledge, a comic was delayed because of problems with the art, production, etc. - I think Bolland was just slowing down/getting bogged down at the end there). (on a related note, I also remember the long wait for the original Dark Knights Returns #s 3 and 4 - the huge gaps between issues towards the end of Camelot 3000 and DKR led many fans to complain that 'DC' now stood for "Delayed Comics," as such delays were unheard of in The Old Days.)
 
 
This Sunday
14:24 / 19.09.05
The first miniseries in comics... intended... were Jack Kirby's New Gods, 'Forever People', and 'Mister Miracle'. They were cancelled early, but they were intended with finite runs climaxing with actual endings.
Just saying.
 
 
Mario
15:05 / 19.09.05
RE: Warlord.

Think Pellucidar as written by Mike Grell.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
16:33 / 19.09.05
Mini--series in the commonely thought of "1 of 12" sort of way. I mean, if you use the Kirby example, then Preacher was a mini-series.

And for a while Camelot 3000 had a record for longest delayed issue ever, IIRC. The gap between #11 and #12 was over a year.

Now that's your average Kevin Smith book.
 
 
This Sunday
21:41 / 19.09.05
While I'm prepared to believe DP7 was a miniseries in thirty-two parts... is it really stretching it to state that 'Preacher', 'Forever People', 'Transmet' or 'Planetary' are or were intended as simply lengthy miniseries, being finite by creative intent rather than simply an on-going that got cancelled?
 
 
Jack Fear
21:46 / 19.09.05
FOREVER PEOPLE I don't know about, but the others you cite were all conceived as finite works, yes.

DP7 was definitely shitcanned due to poor sales, though: the tagline on the last issue was just a wee joke, equivalent to Pee-Wee Herman wiping out spectacularly on his bike and then claiming "I meant to do that!"
 
 
Jack Fear
21:48 / 19.09.05
And you're forgetting CEREBUS, which began a couple of years before CAMELOT 3000, IIRC.
 
 
Slim
01:00 / 20.09.05
Haus said: You're the expert...

I'm also the leading Barbelith expert on fashion and American sports. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
01:09 / 20.09.05
The first OFFICIAL mini-series in comics were Untold Legends of Batman in 1980 and World of Krypton in 1979.

Although one could make a case that The First Kingdom was the first official mini-series, starting in 1976, but it was unknown when it started how many issues it would be.
 
 
Evil Scientist
11:03 / 29.09.05
A question I asked in the Spirit of Vengence thread, but need more details on. Posted here to avoid threadrot.

Captain Atom miniseries with him in his Kingdom Come costume, in the Wildstorm universe. Whatsupwidat?
 
 
rabideyemovement
04:11 / 30.09.05
Writer Will Pfeifer has said that Cpt. Atom will jump to the Wildstorm because of his powers. Until now, absorbing and discharging too much power would displace him temporally. This time he's going to do something that will displace him spatially, namely into the alternate Wildstorm universe. Apparantly the costume change is part of the plot.
 
 
The Natural Way
10:53 / 30.09.05
Slim, you really don't need to be so willfully ignorant. Why bother? I don't understand; Fucking DITF was obviously racially dodge.
 
 
ZF!
12:14 / 14.10.05
Dunno if this really belongs in the Infinite Crisis thread so...

Can someone give me a bit of background to E2 Superman punching away at "the barrier"?

I remember this being set up in The Kingdom, but I think that's how the mini started and ended? I seem to remember something, an image of a Superman doing the same, pre-Crisis perhaps. I wasn't around then so I wouldn't know, but maybe something I saw in a friend's, uncle's collection or perhaps online? Vague, vague.

Haus brought up being referenced in DC 1 000 000, with FutureSupes bashing away through the time barrier.

So what was the deal back in the day, why was Supes imprisoned? I'm missing something, clue me in please.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:36 / 14.10.05
Fucking DITF was obviously racially dodge.

Well, W-H, a disproportionate number of Muslims _are_ terrorists.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
13:44 / 14.10.05
Froglet> So what was the deal back in the day, why was Supes imprisoned? I'm missing something, clue me in please.

In the waning days of the Crisis on Infinite Earths, once they'd - you know - nixed all the Infinite Earths, Alexander Luthor, the child of the good Lex Luthor was Earth-3 was left with Earth-2's Lois Lane and Superman, as well as Earth-Prime's Superboy. They realized there was no way they could integrate into the new continuity, so Alex transformed into a golden bridge into a Heavenly Realm; Lois had been hiding inside him, in fact, for a few issues by that point. The three went inside him and were saved forever...

...until the Earth-2 Superman got bored, or they decided he MUST be bored in Heaven, which was during the Kingdom.
 
 
ZF!
14:11 / 14.10.05
So this bashing at "the barrier" only existed after COIE?

I thought it alluded to some other story perhaps in the Silver Age, perhaps even an Imaginary Story where Supes had been imprisoned somewhere without any way to get out...

Ah it's a bit dissapointing.

But thanks
 
 
Aertho
18:03 / 14.10.05
What else EXACTLY could they do?

"OERH-repus a ecomeb!"

They actually did this -- the Flash TPB THE SECRET OF BARRY ALLEN shows how they tried to turn The Top into a hero. It ended very, very badly.


Really? So what happened?
 
 
Henningjohnathan
18:30 / 14.10.05
So then, is Power Girl from Earth 2 like this Superman?
 
 
A
07:39 / 17.10.05
The Power Girl issue of Secret Origins, from some time back in the late 80's, attempted to explain this. Essentially, Power Girl remembered being Superman's Kryptonian cousin from Earth 2, but it was revealed that she was actually from ancient Atlantis, and she had been sent forward in time as a baby by her grandfather, Arion, who gave her false memories of being from Krypton, or something, so that her and Superman would be pals. However, Power Girl still remembered things the way they were before the Crisis (I think Psycho-Pirate was the only other character who remembered). I'm sure that later writers have added to this or changed bits of it entirely, but for at least a while there, Power Girl was still from Earth 2, and remembered it.
 
 
Lord Morgue
10:47 / 17.10.05
I thought for a moment you might have been thinking of that issue of Animal Man where Ultraman pushes through the panel border and ends up in the "gutter"- you know, that white space between panels.
 
 
Simplist
17:21 / 17.10.05
In connection with the big reveal in IC#1, (and...

S
P
O
I
L
E
R
S

...just in case), what are the relative power levels of the various Supermen now loose in the DCU? We currently have Earth-Prime Superboy, Earth-2 Superman and post-Crisis Superman. I assume Earth-Prime Superboy is your basic faster-than-light-flying, planet-throwing silver age model and thus much, much more powerful than the others. But are Earth-2 and post-Crisis Supes roughly equal, or is one more powerful than the other?
 
 
Aertho
17:35 / 17.10.05
Oh lord.

GA Supes couldn't fly originally, but "leaped tall buildings in a single bound", right? I could be wrong, but I think flight came later. GA Superman was not as strong as SA Superman - I doubt MA Superman is near his crazy power levels.

One would assume that all Supermen will be at or around the same level of strength for the purposes of the Infinite Crisis story.
 
 
Jack Fear
01:07 / 18.10.05
Upon his debut in 1939, Superman could "leap and eighth of a mile," and "nothing less than bursting shell could penetrate his skin!" Which meant, basically, that if you had a howitzer with a quarter mile range, you could smoke the son-of-a-bitch if you got a lucky shot.

His power levels were ramped up almost immediately, though, and by the late 40s he was bathing in lava and flying faster than the speed of sound.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
02:20 / 18.10.05
I seem to recall that despite his GA roots as fairly underpowered. Pre-Crisis-GA Supes is vastly more powerful than modern age Supes. He's planet moving uber-powerful, yes?

And if that scene echoed anything, it was when Supes 1 mill broke through the time barrier in DC 1 mill

And they re-did Power Girl's origin yet again in JSA Classified #1-3. Which I haven't read.
 
 
LDones
04:00 / 18.10.05
Re: Power Girl's new origin, I've been picking up JSA: Classified largely for Amanda Conner's pencils which are generally really interesting, and it looks to me like they're retconning her original retcon and going back to saying Power Girl's Pre-Crisis Superman's cousin.

#4 hasn't come out yet so I can't be sure, but the Psycho Pirate has been hassling her with alternate reality scenarios and kidnapped her, giving her a techno-bondage display in her birthing matrix rocketship thing, my guess being that he wants to use it to shatter the barrier between this world and the Pre-Crisis one.

Another comic I didn't expect I'd enjoy, but I have been. Very teenage-girl-manga meets dragonball-style fighting. I may be high.
 
 
thirty/thirty
08:17 / 19.10.05
Since the DCU is so fashionably trendy these days, I have a question...well, actually two.

1. The Legion of Super-heroes has a member known as Skrinking Violet. Her real name is Salu Digby. Is she related to iconic rape victim and legendary melty face, Sue Digby? Is Shrinking Violet the baby Sue was pregnant with before...well, you know?

2. Queen Hippolyta is super strong just like her equally stacked daughter Wonder Woman. Eventhough this lovely warrior queen is nearly invulnerable and amazingly strong for a woman of her stature she only retains these trains as longs as she is on Paradise Island. This seems to be the case with all super-powered Amazonians except...you guessed it, Wonder Woman. Why is this?
 
 
thirty/thirty
08:19 / 19.10.05
Look I typed trains instead of traits. Now that's funny.
 
 
A beautiful tunnel of ghosts
09:13 / 19.10.05
Todesgeklapper: Don't think there's a connection with Shrinking Violet, as Elongated Man's wife is Sue Dibny, not Digby.
 
 
Sax
12:22 / 19.10.05
Does the Red Tornado have a willy?
 
 
Sax
14:38 / 19.10.05
That's a serious question, by the way. I want to do some Red Tornado/Vision slash.
 
  

Page: 1 ... 1516171819(20)2122232425... 44

 
  
Add Your Reply