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Our Lady Has Left the Building
11:21 / 13.10.08
He did get supercharged with sunlight in the post-'Reign of the Supermen'/Zero Hour period and turned into a Hulk-type creature. I forget what happened next, I think the solution involved the Parasite and the story itself battling to see who sucked more.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
18:35 / 15.10.08
I tend to watch JL/JLU season DVDs as some light breaks. I loved that show and I'm coming to realize that one of my favorite characters on it was Wonder Woman. They did a good job on her character, making me care about her for the first time ever. Got me wondering:

1. Is there an acknowledged definitive take on her? Or at least some touchstones?

2. Has there ever been a true, no gimmick win, all-out brawl between her and Superman? Where does she rate?
 
 
Mr Tricks
16:54 / 16.10.08
The animated Wonder Woman was indeed great. DC's next DVD is going to be an animated Wonder Woman movie. Maybe this will play as the definitive take on the character.

In the lead-up to the Infinite Crisis a few years back a mind controlled Superman was sent to kill Batman. Wonder Woman was able to stop this, and hold Superman off long enough for the mind control to be stopped. It did leave her with a broken wrist some heat vision scars to the face and assorted bruises.

Of course this is one of those classic situations where one party is seeking to stop the other rather than all out kill them.
 
 
SiliconDream
17:32 / 16.10.08
1. Is there an acknowledged definitive take on her? Or at least some touchstones?

For me, her first appearances in the Golden Age, written by W. M. Marston. Doesn't have a great deal of connection to subsequent takes on the character, but I know the JLU creators were particularly inspired by her Golden Age incarnation. (In fact, they were going to make her even more in line with her original portrayal, but the producers nixed the idea.)

2. Has there ever been a true, no gimmick win, all-out brawl between her and Superman? Where does she rate?

In the Silver and Bronze Age, I believe they were almost perfectly matched--when she had superpowers at all, anyway.

Post-Crisis, I don't think they've ever had a really fair fight. She's fought Superman when he was mind-controlled a few times--generally they more or less break even, with the understanding that he's significantly more powerful but her superior fighting skills let her hang in there. In such fights, Superman obviously isn't at his best mentally, but she's not trying to kill him, either, so it's a mutual handicap.

Superman's also pretty handily smacked her down a few times, but that tends to be written by, for instance, Loeb, so I wouldn't call it a "no gimmick win."

Given her magical items and apparent power levels in her JLA appearances, there's no particular reason she shouldn't be able to score a solid win against Superman occasionally, but...he's Superman, and he has superior icon-power on his side.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
20:43 / 16.10.08
Thank you for your answers! I will have to look into the early days of the character more, as I haven't read much of that. I'm curious if the new animated Wonder Woman will actually be the same characterization, though. I believe they are using new voices, different team of writers/directors?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
05:19 / 17.10.08
Question: Camelot 3000, is it worth tracking down to read?
 
 
This Sunday
05:51 / 17.10.08
After the recent delaying and photshopping of a cover, I have to wonder: Has Superman ever been seen to drink alcohol in-panel?
 
 
This Sunday
05:51 / 17.10.08
After the recent delaying and photshopping of a cover, I have to wonder: Has Superman ever been seen to drink alcohol in-panel?
 
 
Evil Scientist
11:10 / 17.10.08
Camelot 3000, is it worth tracking down to read?

I'd say so, although I'm remembering it through rose-tinted brain-lobes. Knights vrs Aliens what's not to like?
 
 
Benny the Ball
15:19 / 21.01.09
Has mater eating lad ever eaten Krypton? To what affect?

Has there ever been anything said as to why krypton seems to be drawn to the earth?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
15:24 / 21.01.09
While Jack Knight, Mikaal, and Ted-Mother-Box-Knight were space-hopping a while ago, years ago, and time-travelling as well, they happened upon pre-explosion Krypton when Jor-El was still a young man. After the inevitable adventure with Jor, they gave him coordinates for Earth, as well as some basic information (including the cornfed shirtless Kansas man picture from Man of Steel), to ensure Superman became Superman. I assume that's still in continuity.
 
 
Benny the Ball
16:04 / 21.01.09
Sorry, I actually meant the remnants of the world as rocks rather than why did they aim the rocket ship here...

Does most of the elemental remains make its way to earth because of riding the wake of Kal-El's craft then, or has another link between the two ever been made, some kind of elemental magnetism that the two worlds share?
 
 
Jack Fear
16:15 / 21.01.09
In that case, I believe the term you are looking for would be Kryptonite.
 
 
Mario
16:40 / 21.01.09
And the best answer for that I've heard is that a bunch of Kryptonite was dragged along the rocket's wake/warp path. Sort of like slipstreaming behind a truck.
 
 
Benny the Ball
17:33 / 21.01.09
ah, yes - sorry, KRYPTONITE. Apologies.

So, as matter eating lad ever eaten kryptonite? What happened?

NB posting pre coffee and on baby duty isn't good for clarity of mind
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
18:51 / 21.01.09
Yes, a lot got dragged along in the ship's wake and I think some versions have the kid's ship getting covered with it before it all broke apart in the atmosphere.
 
 
SiliconDream
20:18 / 21.01.09
So, as matter eating lad ever eaten kryptonite? What happened?

I don't think he has. There's no reason to think anything special would happen, though...he's eaten much more toxic/energetic stuff than that with no effect.

The only thing he ever ate that really changed him was the Miracle Machine. And a couple of materials have been described as too toxic even for a Bismollian--Purple Magnozite, I think it was called, and Red Bismollite (which is supposedly very similar to ketchup.)
 
 
Chew On Fat
03:11 / 23.01.09
In the years after Superman's original origin, it began to sink into popular culture that Space was waaay big, even bigger than they'd thought.

And the chances of all these bits and pieces (and relatives of Superman) finding their way here was ridiculously slim. So some writers put in the idea of a wormhole/black hole thingy between Earth and Krypton to explain all that flotsam and jetsam arriving here. Probably in the 60s.

I read it in the intro to the best Superman stories ever told or somesuch...
 
 
Triplets
20:21 / 31.01.09
Has Galactus ever eaten Krypton?
 
 
Mr Tricks
23:19 / 11.03.09
So, anyone know the deal on who the "new Nightwing" is in Action Comics?
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
05:07 / 12.03.09
Has Galactus ever eaten Krypton?

Well, Superman thought so in the Superman/FF team up done in the 90's when DC and Marvel would do that. Superman ends up being a herald of Galactus but in the end, everything reverts to normal.
 
 
Mario
22:57 / 12.03.09
The new Nightwing is [+] [-] Spoiler
 
 
SiliconDream
20:48 / 22.03.09
After the recent delaying and photshopping of a cover, I have to wonder: Has Superman ever been seen to drink alcohol in-panel?

We've seen him and Lois sharing a bottle of champagne, although I don't know if he was actually drawn mid-drink.

Also, in "Lost Hearts," Lana Lang wandered into a really bad D.C. neighborhood and became a prostitute or something. Turned out everybody there had demonic creatures feeding on their souls. Superman showed up, they latched onto his soul, and he went off and sat in a bar being surly for a few hours. Again, I can't recall if he was actually shown drinking, but he did declare, "I'm not hungry. I'm thirsty," beforehand, so at the least it was implied.
 
 
The Natural Way
17:58 / 22.05.09
Okaaaay. Question: what other weird races, apart from Atlanteans and Gorrillas, share the DCU Earth with humans?

Assist me!
 
 
grant
18:17 / 22.05.09
Hmmm. Unmen, for sure. Demons. Ummm... various intelligent animals in the Kamandi books, which are "far future" (although I don't know where they'd fall compared to the Legion on a timeline).

Would the Parliament of Trees count?
 
 
Triplets
18:48 / 22.05.09
Okaaaay. Question: what other weird races, apart from Atlanteans and Gorrillas, share the DCU Earth with humans?

Assist me!


Kryptonians, Martians, half-Sheeda, sleeper White Martians, various robots, Amazons obviously, Homo Magi, refugees from Warworld called Underworlders.

I'm so alone.
 
 
Benny the Ball
18:54 / 22.05.09
Would the whole elemental committee count also?

Lots of aliens, lots of demons and magical creatures, lots of robots and a few biblical characters.
 
 
SiliconDream
23:29 / 22.05.09
Also a bunch of underground critters called Stratans, introduced in the new Terra miniseries. Also some other IQ-enhanced animals Gorilla Grodd created once, who ended up concealing their intelligence and returning to human society.

Also, in some sense, the inhabitants of the Mirror Master's zillion different pocket Earths.

And if we missed any, here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DC_Comics_hidden_races
 
 
Janean Patience
16:06 / 24.05.09
I stress I never read it, but wasn't there a whole alien city that crashed to Earth called Haven that was meant to be staying part of the DC Universe? Never heard about it since mind.
 
 
The Natural Way
20:39 / 24.05.09
Thanx doods.
 
 
Janean Patience
21:06 / 24.05.09
For my own curiosity, I Googled it. Even then it took a bit of effort to find.

Haven, the Alien City everyone preferred to Forget.
 
 
Evil Scientist
11:15 / 24.04.13
Bat-Bump
 
 
FinderWolf
15:24 / 10.03.14
The New 52 rendered all DC Surgery silly. But the New 52 itself is also quite silly and pointless, so there.

The New 52 still feels mostly like fanfic for me. Can't shake that feeling.
 
 
jgbell
04:02 / 26.03.14
I have not read most of the New 52, but I did rather enjoy the Swamp Thing sequence that I read. The interwoven story with Animal Man was nice as well, as I never appreciated Animal Man much before but found it interesting and compelling in this new sequence; but only read them as an adjunct to Swamp Thing, really.
 
 
jgbell
04:27 / 26.03.14
I think it should be obvious that in spite of the report about Haven as "current status of the Broken City is unknown" (from the link provided) that the entire thing was later repurposed for Stargate: Atlantis.
 
  

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