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Mon Oncle Ignatius
22:56 / 17.01.06
If times get rough on the high seas, we can always go pirate when need be, if the worst comes to the worst (which it might, after all). The fish diet might become a tad boring - but with a healthy dose of seaweed to make lava bread from there should be at least a reasonably varied diet to go with all the vegetables grown on the aircraft carrier fields.

Thinking about it, I think the navy's buying new carriers soonish, so there should be some old ones going cheap at surplus prices. Though there will probably be a run on them, so we'd better start saving now.

As for the maintainence, we'll need to make sure there is a good supply of tinkerers and bodgers on board the floating city. They love that sort of stuff.

[Should all this go over to the post-flood commune thread though?]
 
 
Bed Head
22:57 / 17.01.06
Ah, your lovely mountain fort will be taken off you by the Big Kids in no time. But the Big Kids won’t bother with the boat *because* they don’t fancy the perceived constant maintenance/can’t be bothered collecting rainwater/don’t eat fish, etc. We’ll be laughing.

Nobody needs to steer a boat on the ocean, anyway. You set it going and don’t have to worry about that stuff for days.
 
 
Bed Head
23:00 / 17.01.06
[Should all this go over to the post-flood commune thread though?]

Yeah, it probably should. Or maybe we need a ‘mountain vs boat’ thread first instead. I’ll go along with the majority decision in this matter. I can’t run a boat on my own.


Sorry about spoiling the miserable thread. Back to the misery!
 
 
Tryphena Absent
23:01 / 17.01.06
We can make it into the mountain vs. boat thread. I will adapt the summary to cover all eventualities.
 
 
Spaniel
07:20 / 18.01.06
I really can't bring myself to have a sense of humour about this shit. It makes me miserable.
 
 
unheimlich manoeuvre
07:28 / 18.01.06
Me too. My mood has definitely... this is fucked up.
It'd be nice to think my niece and my friends children have something to look forward to.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
07:31 / 18.01.06
I know I should be responding to this on some emotional level, but I think those particular panic circuts have been fried through years of overuse. Nowadays I just take the recycling out and then download another PDF on water-purification or Weapons.

See, if we had an Armoury forum we could discuss this kind of thing properly.
 
 
Saveloy
07:41 / 18.01.06
I makes me f***ing miserable, but the people quoted in the Independant article that Petey linked to above give me some hope. Being fatalistic isn't an option. Or, as Tony Juniper said:

"There's still a narrow window of opportunity, and the priority must be to campaign for changes to make the most of that, not to assume that all is lost. Assuming there's nothing to be gained means we're very likely to fail."
 
 
Spaniel
08:15 / 18.01.06
Although that kind of attitude seems necessary, there's very little in Petey's article to cheer me up. It ain't that mixed.

And, Mordant, I really wish my panic circuits were fried, they're obviously the long life variety.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
08:21 / 18.01.06
Well I keep poking themand trying to get a response, so I'm sure I'll start waking up in a cold sweat soon.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
01:46 / 20.01.06
Bloody hell, I feel miserable. No money, no prospects, no inspiration. I haven't had a proper holiday from my life in over six years, and every time I remember a dream it's the one about being chased, again. Even my (borrowed) guitar's temporarilly out of action. I know compared to the most of the world's population, I shouldn't moan and that it's all my own fault. But still, come on Lady Luck, throw me a boney?
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
10:17 / 23.01.06
I am sitting at work trying my best to get enthusiastic about solo albums by various members of Yes. I feel utterly horrible due to Friday night clubbing related ingestion and I want a hug. Please.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
10:31 / 23.01.06
I'll give you a hug if you change the music.
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
10:36 / 23.01.06
OK, let's put on some Barry White...

Now C'mere! MMMMMMMM, Better.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
12:07 / 23.01.06
The results of the Alzheimers drugs review make me want to spit fire. I mean, fuck people's health if it's not cost effective. The drugs are cheaper than the daycare that the patients require you bastards. Clinical excellence my arse.
 
 
Shrug
20:57 / 24.01.06
I'm feeling miserable because I shouldn't be let near people. Not today at least. I've been really awful to everyone I've met today, just looking for a fight and no matter what I try to do I can't seem to reel in this behaviour. I just really wanted to and still want to lash out at someone or something but know I shouldn't and wish that I had not. This creeping sensation of general anger and most of all plain old stress has been slowly building for a month or so and I've not been able to shake it. I've just not been myself and my already laughable sleeping habits have worsened. So many little things have begun to annoy me. I've actually shook with rage on a few occassions over really very minor incidents. I guess I just thought I was over alot of things that I really wasn't. But I very much wish that having to deal with them didn't plonk me back so solidly on square one again.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
22:30 / 24.01.06
Something similar happened to me a few weeks ago. I was getting all pissed off at people at work and stewing over it, over how I knew the right way to do things if only they'd listen to me and stop being such assholes. Which is not me. There is hardly anything less important in my life than my job. So why was I so irritable? Because I had just bought a car and was no longer riding my bike 11 miles a day. I had too much energy, wasn't sleeping, had no outlet. So I joined the YMCA and am working out in the mornings, and now there's only one guy I get mad at but he's a Compleat Schmuck.

Maybe get some regular excercise. It doesn't have to be anything extreme. I mostly just ride the stationary bike for 45 minutes.
 
 
Shrug
22:46 / 24.01.06
Thinking about it lack of excercise recently could have alot to do with it. I have a gym very near so I'll do that.
Thank you sincerely for the great advice.
 
 
P. Horus Rhacoid
01:08 / 25.01.06
Qalyn's on the money. My worst/most irritable/most sleepless period in recent memory was one in which I stopped playing sports altogether for several months. Even though I was walking a lot I was used to running. There were other factors such as living in a small house with 9 passive-aggressive people but I'm convinced that the lack of exercise was the deal breaker.
 
 
Olulabelle
01:53 / 04.02.06
I seem to be coming across all wrong on Barbelith and have pissed a lot of people off. This makes me very miserable because I don't know what's different about me, but obviously something is.

Maybe it's that I felt strongly enough about something to question it and I'm not very good (it seems) at doing that.

Anyhoo. Now I feel utterly miserable about it and I don't know what to do to fix it, which is even worse because the people I've upset are people I really respect.
 
 
Axolotl
12:22 / 05.02.06
I can't find anyone to move into my flat, which means I'm going to have to move out. I don't have anywhere to live sorted out and I've no idea how I'm going to shift all my stuff. I'm going to end up miserable and alone in some grotty bedsit feeding coins into a power meter and eating baked beans out of a can.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
19:25 / 05.02.06
Fuck food allergies. That is all.
 
 
Sean the frumious Bandersnatch
05:04 / 06.02.06
So is this where I bitch about being horny and feeling like nobody pays enough attention to me and say how I sometimes think that I'm a second-class citizen or not even a full member of the human race?

Yes?

Then I'm doing that right now.
 
 
HCE
14:02 / 06.02.06
Turning out the lights is not a productive way to indicate to me that you are feeling frustrated.
 
 
Silver
14:15 / 06.02.06
Thanks in part to a sinus infection and some unreasonable worry, I'm coping with a day in the office after only three hours sleep. I'm caffienated (caffinated?) to the gills, yet my head is a strange combination of numbness and headache. I feel like I'm half a step off of reality.

Plus there's the unreasonable worry because I booked a flight to San Francisco (yay!) only to learn later that the airline may go out of business before my trip (boo!).

I really need a full night's sleep.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:09 / 06.02.06
Not sure that miserable is quite the right adjective, but I just got off the phone to someone for the last time before they goes into surgery tomorrow. I've read all the literature and have a reasonable grasp of the risks and the consequences, but it still feels terribly uncertain - that things are going to be done to this body that are not done in the everyday course of things that happen to bodies, and one must rely on a sort of educated guesswork about how things fit together to make the watch work despite the missing piece.

I can't catch my breath, and my mind is not a tenth of what it should be.
 
 
Sekhmet
12:49 / 08.02.06
Godsdammit, I wish I was smarter.

At work, at home, and online, I am surrounded by people who make me feel like a mental midget with the tiny brains.
 
 
Smoothly
13:42 / 08.02.06
I’ve always interpreted the feeling that I’m getting more stupid compared with my peers as evidence that my life is progressing in the right direction. After all, the best way to feel clever is to be surrounded by idiots.
So, imagine if you felt you were getting increasingly smart compared the people you were mixing with. Would that be a good sign?
 
 
Shrug
20:11 / 08.02.06
Haus: Sincerely sorry to hear of distress, hoping it all went well and wishing your friend a speedy recovery. And without knowing the seriousness of the operation I hope you have reason to feel cheerier today post surgery.
 
 
grant
19:00 / 09.02.06
What Shrug said, yes.


-----

Depressing things in local news:
Curious George co-author killed horribly in a town I pass through on my daily commute.

And if you can't kill yourself with a big public splash the first time, try, try again.
 
 
Dead Megatron
00:52 / 10.02.06
Well, I work as a reporter to my Home-State Security Secretariat (which runs the Police), and my job is to cover police occurrences. Here's my assignment a couple days ago:

This family came home after a night out and found out the house door have been busted. Being such a nice family, they had left their three-year old child all by herself while they were "out dancing". In the kid bedroom, they saw the 15-year old neighbor with his pants down, raping the child. The rapist tried to jump the window, but was caught and taken to the police station.

While most of the people were at the hospital examining the baby (who was bleeding through her vagina way too much) they left the rapist boy in handcufs in a room with the babygirl mother and one cop. The rapist started bragging about how he would walk away from all the accusations, being him underaged and all. I mean, he was laughing at the mother's face.

The mother then picked up from her purse a kitchen knife she had snuck in through security and, before the cop could do anything to stop her (assuming he even tried, of course), she cut the little psycho throat from ear to ear. She was immediately arrested.

Incidentally, the rapist mother was already in jail for murdering her own teenage daugther over jealousy of her new husband (who used to beat her up) and her having an affair a couple of years ago.

at the same time:

My country is knee deep in a corruption scandal from a left wing government who was supposed to be the people's salvation

People are dying all over the Middle East in protest about some extremely disrespectful and cultural un-aware cartoons

A cousin of my found out he got HIV from a former girlfriend, and passed it along to his current girlfriend (who also support him - he does not have a job), and they are both fighting over him, since they'll never get in another relationship (not to mention a one-night stand he doesn't seem to remember how to locate to warn her). And all of that after I told the stupid fucker to use condoms, and he laughed at my self, saying there was not much danger, being him "not gay"

The woman I love has moved to another country and I can't stop worrying about the possibility of her getting hurt in some terrorist atack (yeah, she's living in Washington now), no matter how unlikely that may be in actuallity.

So you'll pardon me if I don't give a rat's ass about people who apparently think the only issue in the planet is their own sexuality and how everyone is supposed to praise it at all times and never make any comment about it that is anything short of "wow, you are SOOOO great, I wish everyone is as elightened as you", even if such comment is in a thread created with the manifested purpose of working one's dark humor out of one's own system without disrupting more useful threads (and they claim I'm the one who's self-centered, for all the devils in hell's sake)
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
01:09 / 10.02.06
ok.

back off.

It sounds like you are dealing with some fucking hellish things right now.

And I offer you whatever useful energy/sympathy I can for tha, while recognising that basically I'm a billion miles away in terms of what you are dealing with.

I offer my listening ear and support anyway, under no illusion that it magically makes things better, nor under the illusion that I can affect the things you are talking about.

I offer it anyway, on a personal level, as that is all I can think of to do.

BUT, shit as these things are, this does not give you licence to tell other people here that they are not allowed to speak about the things they feel are important to them.

We are all doing various different forms of fighting, and most of us here are aware that we're enormously priveliged to be fighting the battles that we are.

That does not invalidate them for anyone who is fighting scarier battles.

What would you have us do, not fight at all?
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
01:27 / 10.02.06
also:

those of us who fight battles in the western world over sexuality deal with a whole load of western-world shit over these issues.

We are also aware that there are people who fight far scarier battles over their sexuality than we do.

That does not entitle you to tell us that we are not allowed to fight instances of thought that eventually lead to people being beaten up and killed in the streets.

You do not get to tell us not to bother about those things.

That does not mean that you get to assume that we are ignorant of worse situations elsewhere either.

I again offer sympathy for the awful stuff it sounds like you have been dealing with.

But I also ask you, how do you know that the people you are speaking to here aren't working with issues of their own that are as horrible as the examples you parade in front of us in a frankly offensive (not because of the issues, which are awful and serious but because of the ways you use them as oneumpmanship) manner?

If you're sure that none of us are dealing with things that are as tough, then congratulations, enjoy your moral superiority
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
01:40 / 10.02.06
by 'working with issues of their own', I actually meant to say 'working in environments where enormously difficult issues come up'.

I have no doubt, from what you say, that the stuff you are reporting on is fucking awful. And, maybe in your terms, the stuff that we deal with is minimal.

But, it's possible and in fact true, that many of the people you are dismissing here are working closely with people who have really fucking difficult lives.

If I was feeling uncharitable and bitchy, I could ask you what use you are to the people you report on.

I might sugguest that I, in my professional environment, suppport and enable safe space for people who in UK terms are generally shat on and extremely disadvanatged and help them figure out where they want to go, ways of living and getting what they deserve from life.

And I help give them a space that for many of them is the safest space they have.

But, angry as I get about the fucking appalling things that many of my clients have to deal with, I don't think, (in here at least, I save that for supervision) that this entitles me to slate other postesrs for their concerns.
 
 
Dead Megatron
01:41 / 10.02.06
I'm not saying they shoudn't speak their minds, I just think it would be good for them if they had a sense of humour about themselves for a change. It really helps. And, in a thread called "lame joke and puns", they could be more understanding. Go back to the first post and read my reasons to start the thread in the first place. I created the thread so I would stop being annoying to them in other threads (which I sincerely regret, I do), and I tought, for once, I would find a safe place to be, well, childish a bit, but noooo. They had to turn a thread that's not serious by definition into another endless bickering. As they do everytime. (and I'll quote myself from the very thread that originated the joke which ruined it all: Appearantly, people will always think people who don't tkink exactly like them are full of s%$#, regardless of them being gay, straight, or anything in between or beyond. I wonder how much of that is inevitable "human nature".)

They even came to the point of stating that, just because they didn't like the joke, it was not a joke at all (Tought Police much?). But humour is supposed to go where it hurts, you know. That's why I find it to be the best, and most concise, way to make one think about one's own opinion. Of course, one needs to be willing to question oneself for it to work.

And I said in that thread they were more than welcome to tell me to fuck off, as long as they tried to be funny about it (as some of them did, inclusive Ganesh once, and I enjoyed when they did). But, again, noooo, God forbid the PC people to laugh at themselves for once.

I tired of this world of bricks and stones, of blades and fire, of fingerpointing and self-righteousness. Hell is always the other, ain't it?

I just needed to joke around with my friends a bit (and I do consider all of you folks friends, even if not very close ones), but they won't let me, will they? When I felt pissed about their attitude, I came here (the miserable thread) to vent a little, instead of extending the argument more and more, instead of trying to ruin the joke for others. I even tried to move on, make jokes about other stuff, but they kept doing it, they kept bringing the subject.

And they way they talk, it sounds like the entire thread is about that one subject, when I made a single post about it, with no intention to come back to it. Heck, if they said they were hurt and asked in a polite (or even funny) way, I would have erased it, without giving it a second thought. Now, there's a whole page about it, and I can't make that go away.

And I'm fighting the fight too, make no mistake. Their fight as well as mine. That doesn't mean I'll let the Dark take my soul. I'll gaze into the Abyss and laught at its utter emptiness, its unrelenting cold. For one speck of light will fill it all and make it be no more. I just wish more people felt like that too. Do they?
 
  

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