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Urgh! Fuck!: A thread for untamed hate and anger [PICS]

  
  

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Ticker
20:06 / 12.06.07
I read the link above and got angry. Then I spotted this in the other news links and got enraged.

Honor killing in UK

WTF is wrong with people on personal and group levels? 4 years solitary confinement AND no trial? Murder for shaming the family?
 
 
Feverfew
17:29 / 13.06.07
It's a small thing. And possibly a silly thing to get worked up about.

But if I hear the argument "Well, black people call each other {the N-word}, so surely it's discrimination if I can't use that word too?" then I may not be responsible for my actions.

And, yes, I see the argument for free speech, and freedom of expression, and that you "may not even mean it in a racist way", but still, it annoys me greatly.
 
 
Quantum
18:10 / 13.06.07
Just punch them dude, it's the easiest way.

XK, the really horrible thing about that was that she told the police several times and they ignored her.

Banaz ran away from home as a teen but was later sent an audio tape in which her father warned he would kill her sisters, her mother and himself if she did not come home, Bekhal said. She went home and was later admitted to hospital after her brother attacked her, her sister said.
He said he had been paid by their father to kill her but he couldn't do it, Bekhal said. Bekhal, in full burqa, said she still feared for her life.
Banaz's abuse went unheeded by police.
She first went to them in December 2005 when she suspected her uncle was trying to kill her and her boyfriend.
She sent them a letter naming the men she thought would later kill her.
On New Year's Eve, Banaz was lured by her father to her grandmother's home and believed she would be attacked after he forced her to gulp down brandy and approached her while wearing gloves. She broke a window to make her escape.
Police ignored her claims. One officer, under investigation, considered charging her for breaking the window.

Urgh, makes me despair and shout.
 
 
Ticker
18:18 / 13.06.07
I'm reading about the fuckfestival breaking out in Palestine between Hamas and Fatah. Or ongoing and escalating if you prefer.

somedays I need to not read the news
 
 
Quantum
19:33 / 13.06.07
Thatcher backs war in Iraq citing the Falklands as example.

I thought her doctor told her never to speak in public again? Is anyone else prepared for the party in Trafalgar square the Saturday after she dies?
 
 
Feverfew
19:43 / 13.06.07
Just punch them dude, it's the easiest way.

Tempting but unexpeditable. Even if that is a made-up word.

I just have to put up with these lazy arguments and halfway-formulated Daily Mail (which I know is a relatively lazy shorthand in itself) bullshit on a relatively regular basis. The other current refrain is "Well, if things keep going the way they're going, don't you think it's inevitable that Britain will soon be a predominantly Muslim country?"

And it's at this point I consider weeping.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
21:36 / 13.06.07
I heartily suggest not reading the comments on the Daily Express website about the suspect in the killing of the police officer in Luton then. They're irredeemably racist, Islamaphobic and just headdeskertish, even given the genuinely heinous nature of the crime. So much so, I don't even feel like linking to them.
 
 
Shiny: Well Over Thirty
06:11 / 14.06.07
One officer, under investigation, considered charging her for breaking the window.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHFUCK! I knew about this awful murder already, and I knew about the police doing fuck all to help despite being contacted multiple times - but this little shit-flower of new information has still managed to make me do a fairly large sick inside my head.
 
 
Evil Scientist
11:00 / 14.06.07
You fucking knew your knee was damaged! You knew before you went off for an all-expenses paid weekend on the company bill to play a pointless couple of games of fucking football against other labs! You told me the doctor had recommended surgery! So now, shock and fucking horror, you're signed off for ten days with knee problems and I have to cover your work this weekend. Well thanks, thanks a fucking bunch. Don't let the fact that you've massively disrupted my life make any difference to you. BASTARD!
 
 
All Acting Regiment
12:33 / 14.06.07
I heartily suggest not reading the comments on the Daily Express website about the suspect in the killing of the police officer in Luton then. They're irredeemably racist, Islamaphobic and just headdeskertish, even given the genuinely heinous nature of the crime. So much so, I don't even feel like linking to them.

Also, every time we get a murder of a woman in/by an Asian family, the attack from the papers is always on "those Asians", never, you know, the general sexist system of the world. Or we get people who are feminists as long as it involves getting a dig in at "Teh Muslims". Or we get people hijacking these horrible murders to spout anti-immigration bullshit.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
12:39 / 14.06.07
I say "every time", that makes it sound like it happens a lot - actually it doesn't. It certainly happens a lot less than white gangsters shooting the wrong person and getting let off through bribing the cops, or children getting run over by idiot lawyers in large cars, and so on.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:43 / 14.06.07
Or we get people who are feminists as long as it involves getting a dig in at "Teh Muslims".

Oh, _absolutely_. The PTBs quite happpily ignored the suppression of women in Afghanistan until they wanted to overthrow its government.
 
 
Shiny: Well Over Thirty
12:44 / 14.06.07
Also, every time we get a murder of a woman in/by an Asian family, the attack from the papers is always on "those Asians", never, you know, the general sexist system of the world. Or we get people who are feminists as long as it involves getting a dig in at "Teh Muslims". Or we get people hijacking these horrible murders to spout anti-immigration bullshit.

Yes it's both remarkable and sickeningly hypocritical how the Mail and the Sun and the rest discover the liberal values of feminism and anti-homophobia, when they decide to run a story about something deeply unpleasant someone who comes from an Asian or Muslim background has done.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
12:47 / 14.06.07
"...even given the genuinely heinous nature of the crime and however much it might be upsetting to read about" is more like what I meant to write.
 
 
Twice
13:32 / 14.06.07
Although this thread’s a busy place today, I just wanted to mention Five Live’s morning phone in with the BNP’s Nick Griffin. I have a scrunched-up brane when it comes to deciding whether this sort of thing should be on the national airwaves. Throughout this morning, I became increasingly eye-bulgy and angry as Griffin exposed his own vileness. I suspect a large number of listeners felt similarly. Sadly, though, I fear an equal number may have been punching the air in support.

So if you actually want your ears to jump off in protest, help yourself.
 
 
Jack Fear
13:51 / 14.06.07
I have a scrunched-up brane when it comes to deciding whether this sort of thing should be on the national airwaves.

Oh, absolutely. I’m a firm believer that, in the words of Justice Holmes, sunlight is the best disinfectant. or, to put it more crudely: If a racist fuckwit is determined to shoot himself in the foot in public, then the media should be happy to hand him the biggest cannon possible for the attempt.
 
 
Olulabelle
14:23 / 14.06.07
About Banaz, despite apparently understanding that she was under threat from relatives she lived with, the police also went around to her house on at least one occasion in order to contact her when they realised they couldn't contact her by phone.

I mean, Hello?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
23:24 / 14.06.07
Jack, old thing, I fear you overestimate the critical judgement of the British.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
04:20 / 15.06.07
How a camp Dalek might look. Fuckers.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
06:48 / 15.06.07
...case in point.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
11:10 / 15.06.07
GAY Pride chiefs are to screen the final episode of Doctor Who in Trafalgar Square — to keep some of the show’s most devoted fans at the festival.

The eagerly-anticipated finale is broadcast on June 30 — the same day as the annual celebration in London.

Doctor Who is a huge hit in the gay community and organisers feared thousands of camp followers would stay at home to watch the climax of the BBC1 saga.

Fuck off.

If you travel enough, you've seen it all -- and possibly some of the awful things that can happen while traveling will have actually happened to you. But nothing I've read about or experienced comes close to what Monica Emmerson experienced while at Reagan National Airport on June 11th while traveling with her 19-month-old toddler. This isn't one of those Catch-22 bureaucratic snafus; this isn't about rules being applied to the letter. This story is mostly about what can happen simply because the authorities in charge decide that they're going to exercise their authority because they can, regardless of whether it's legal or right or makes any sense at all.

And if this can happen to a former law enforcement officer with the United States Secret Service, it can happen to anyone.

The story linked above can fuck off too.

And now for my issue.

I feel bad about constantly bringing this up, but you know teh housemates? You know their (hateful, racist, homophobic) Israeli chum?

Dude owes one of the housemates (his best friend) money. Dude won't pay up. Dude has a history of not paying up, has had ti be bailed out of trouble by rich parents before now. His excuse, for not paying up now? Oh, "some Asians" robbed him "the other night". Note that he said this over the phone, which somehow wasn't mugged even though his wallet allegedly was. I ask housemate if he actually beleives that. Of course he does. "You know what it's like round here", he says. Anyway, his best mate wouldn't lie to him, would he? Fuck's sake.

That's not all though. Now they've got a new friend from Malta.

Apparently there's trouble with immigration to Malta. I don't know what the exact story is, because all I hear is this little degenerate shit sitting smugly in my living room saying "Yeah, we need to shoot the n*ggers", or saying he's glad because "Another boatload of n*ggers got shot". I told housemate, quietly, to sort his friend out, assuming it's not hard to appreciate why I don't want that language in my living room. Housemate doesn't appreciate this at all.

So basically, I could really do with knowing what is going on in Malta, in order to combat this stuff, and I can't seem to find anything on the BBC site. Does anyone know anything about the situation?

And if the bad-talking continues (I'm not averse to a debate about immigration, but I'm not standing for people to throw around speech like that), am I within my rights to chuck the guy out of the house?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:22 / 15.06.07
Honestly dude, can you really not find anywhere else to live? London, maybe?
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
11:29 / 15.06.07
I agree. When you're having to do specific research into the immigration situation in Malta to argue down a nasty racist in your front room it's time to move.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:41 / 15.06.07
Really. There's not likely to be an immigration situation in Malta which makes it reasonable to be glad that a boatload of etcetera. Given, that, do you think a little thing like facts are going to get in the way?
 
 
Katherine
11:41 / 15.06.07
I agree with the others here, while it probably really sucks to move out because of such a idiot it would be better for you not to have to live with it.

When you move out I would sit your housemates down (without him) and explain why you are moving though.
 
 
Spaniel
11:54 / 15.06.07
Legba, I don't think I like your flatmate. I think he's a cock.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
11:56 / 15.06.07
Allecto, just MOVE THE FUCK OUT.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
12:01 / 15.06.07
If this story says anything about widely held Maltese views on African immigrants, it's not surprising your housemate's mate talks the racial bollocks. And yes, MOVE AWAY FROM SHIT.
 
 
Quantum
12:03 / 15.06.07
I told housemate, quietly, to sort his friend out, assuming it's not hard to appreciate why I don't want that language in my living room. Housemate doesn't appreciate this at all.

Tell housemate, loudly, to sort his friend out, in front of the friend. If there's any objection tell them that the racist shit he's spouting is completely unacceptable and he should shut the fuck up, and if he doesn't like it he can get the fuck out of your house, and if your housemate doesn't like it tell him to get the fuck out too. Ask them if they think it's more important to spout racist bullshit, which is a crime by the way, than act considerately to their housemates.
Then batter them with a stout plank and burn the building down (TM Gypsy Lantern) and move out.
 
 
Quantum
12:07 / 15.06.07
Seriously though, you are being way too polite and reasonable. I reckon a bit of shouting would encourage them to have their racist moots down the pub instead of your living room.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
12:07 / 15.06.07
The good thing is I am moving out, about two weeks time. Which will be great. I've almost been thinking it's not worth making a fuss about, except, no, it is. I'll be making a stand now. I don't need these last two weeks full of dick.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
12:11 / 15.06.07
Hah - if only they ever went out. That would be a fine thing. This is a group of people with, not surprisingly, a very limited group of friends. Housemate isn't neccesarily bad, just quite dumb and not particularly effectual. I've actually heard these guys turn up at the door demanding to be entertained, and then him mumbling about some studying he's got to do, and then letting them in anyway.
 
 
Quantum
12:13 / 15.06.07
Sweeet! So you can make yourself as much of a pain in the arse as you like, since you're moving anyway, and make *them* uncomfortable and angry for a change. Occupy the front room loudly complaining about the actions of the IDF, the robot turrets on the border and the slave labour camps in occupied territories, invite any and all foreign friends you have over, stay up until four in the morning listening to loud punk and proclaiming your innate superiority over your wanky flatmates due to their odious views and trustafarian nonsense etc. and generally get your own back for all the shit in this thread you've put up with.
Line in the sand! This shall not stand, dude! Light a match or curse the darkness!
 
 
All Acting Regiment
12:16 / 15.06.07
Good idea, actually. A3 posters of the Baader-Meinhof gang in the living room, maybe?
 
 
Quantum
12:16 / 15.06.07
Housemate isn't neccesarily bad, just quite dumb and not particularly effectual

Even better, so he can't oppose your dastardly plans! When they come round, tell them it's not convenient, and anyway they're not welcome because they're a bunch of asshats, generally be as obnoxious as you fucking like. It's your fucking house after all, and they are rude boorish guests, you owe them no politeness, tell them to fuck off down the pub or find some other weak willed fool to bully and borrow money off because your housemate is busy.
 
  

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