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Mourne Kransky
16:52 / 06.10.03
What's the name for this symbol: @ ?
Is there one, apart from "at"?

And what are these keys here on my keyboard for: ¬ and | ?
Are they for clever Mathsy people to speak in code to one another?
 
 
Jack Vincennes
17:11 / 06.10.03
Xoc, I think it's called the 'commercial a' - at least, I've heard it called that by people whom I assume know their stuff. And I have no idea what ¬ is (nothing good, I'll warrant), but || means 'or' (in Java at least, and therefore probably loads of other things) - how I love sharing the joy of doing a computing MSc with all and sundry...
 
 
pomegranate
17:29 / 06.10.03
does anyone know (or can you find out) about handheld scanners that can read out loud to you? it can't be something that needs a computer attached, or anything.
i ask because my only remaining grandparent is losing her eyesight.
 
 
Cat Chant
17:35 / 06.10.03
handheld scanners that can read out loud to you?

Sorry to hear about your grandparent, praying mantis - but I don't think the tech for this is (widely) available yet (otherwise there wouldn't be a sign up in my department for students to read academic texts onto tape). However, I think more texts are available on audio formats than you might think (I know there's a 'talking newspapers' scheme that circulates audio versions of magazines, etc, for example) - you are probably best off talking to the RNIB or something.

Best of luck.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
17:56 / 06.10.03
Merci, Vincennes.

Now that I know you are qualified to answer all my questions about computers, I would pester you but I fear I wouldn't understand many of the answers.

My next question is: Is this the longest thread ever in the annals of the 'Lith? And how many pages can it run for before it dies or qualifies as a newly discovered sentient life form?
 
 
Linus Dunce
18:13 / 06.10.03
Also ...

I think the commercial at is AKA "the snail" in some countries.

When I were a lad ... The '|' (vertical bar) was for piping the output of one DOS program/command to another. If, e.g., you wanted to see a list of a directory's (folder's) contents, you would type "dir". If there was loads of stuff in there, it would all scroll past too fast to read. So you would pipe it to another widget called "more" that paused the screen each time it was full, like so:

dir | more

If you're curious, or even still awake, start up an MS-DOS prompt and try it, it still works, even though you can now type "dir/p" instead.

The ¬ is a "not sign". I have no idea what that was for, though I guess it's something useful when you are working deep, deep under the hood of your computer.

This thread is pretty long, isn't it? My understanding of it is that it can be as long as the disk space allows because the computer only looks at a little bit at a time. Perhaps we should keep building it so when the day comes that someone builds a computer that can get its head around the whole thing at once, we'll be ready to tutor it in the ways of righteousness ...
 
 
pomegranate
18:59 / 06.10.03
i think we should keep this thread alive until it becomes self-aware, at that point we must kill it before it tries to take over.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
01:54 / 07.10.03
Praying mantis! PM me!

Xoc: an excerpt on this history of the @ symbol:

It began life in the Middle Ages. Berthold L. Ullman says in Ancient Writing and Its Influence (1932) that this strudel-shaped sign was created by monks in the scriptoria as an abbreviation of the common Latin word "ad," which can mean, depending on the context, "to," "toward," "near" or "at." The monks wrote "a" and then curled part of the "d" around it. After a millennium or so, @ moved over into business as a way of indicating unit prices. In an account book or an invoice, people would write "5 men's belts @$1.20" or "10 lb. sugar @20 cents." I picture the people who used it sitting at rolltop desks and wearing sleeve garters.

It began appearing on typewriter keyboards in the 1880s, and soon after on the keyboards of linotype and other word-handling machines. It slowly fell from fashion in business during the first half of the 20th century, but never lost its place on the machines, apparently because no one thought of eliminating it. So it was still part of the teletype keyboard (used by telegraphy companies and news agencies) in the 1970s, when that keyboard was standard in computer labs and e-mail was invented.

The inventor, who is now a legend in computer circles but otherwise unknown, was a 30-year-old MIT graduate named Ray Tomlinson. This young engineer changed the way the world communicates, and inserted @ into all the languages of the world. He was just barely conscious that he might be doing something world-shaking. It seemed to him then, as it seems to him now, that every move he made was merely another detail in a long chain of inventions made by hundreds of engineers.

He was working in Cambridge, Mass., for Bolt Beranek & Newman, one of the computer companies assigned by the Pentagon to build what became the Internet. He was working on a way to transfer files among the 15 American computers linked to the network. He needed to indicate that a file was moving between computers rather than within just one, so he chose @: "I used the @ sign to indicate that the user was 'at' some other host rather than being local." His lab contained two computers, separately wired to the network, so in 1972 his first message went from one of the company's computers to the other, in the same room but via the network. He created the first e-mail address: tomlinson@bbn-tenexa.

Unfortunately, he didn't have the presence of mind or historical self-consciousness to send a message that we could quote for the next century or so. He certainly didn't imitate Samuel Morse, who in 1844 gave the opening of the telegraphy era a grand rhetorical flourish by transmitting, in dot-dash code, "What hath God wrought!" Alas, Tomlinson can't remember quite what his message said, but he thinks it was probably QWERTYUIOP, the top line of letters on the standard keyboard. (He sent it in capitals, which today would be considered rude.)


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Mourne Kransky
09:07 / 07.10.03
my.immense.gratitude@ignatius.j;rothkoid *MWAH*
 
 
YNH
21:44 / 07.10.03
Anyone already familiar enough with 1)Zev Chafets and 2)Bill White to sum either up in a sentence or two?
 
 
Cheap. Easy. Cruel.
13:07 / 08.10.03
I am not going to use all of the money I have payed into my FSA (Flexible Spending Account) this year. Can I use this money to help a friend who needs surgery? Or can this money be used only on me and my dependents?
 
 
_Boboss
10:38 / 13.10.03
Help please: What do you call people from Edinburgh?

Edinburgers? Edinboroughsian? Terms applicable to those who live in the Scottish capital please, not just native born-there types. Not 'doss cunt' or anything like that either. Someone must know.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
11:22 / 13.10.03
Isn't it Edinburghians? Gingerbop, help ...
 
 
Bear
11:53 / 13.10.03
It's a good question, I've feeling it must be Edinburghians just like Aberdonians but it doesn't sounds right does it?

From the Metro on Friday -

Who would win in a fight between a horse sized duck and a hundred duck sized horses?
 
 
Jack Vincennes
12:01 / 13.10.03
I've always said Edinburgers, but I don't think that it's a standard technical term like Aberdonians or Glaswegians...Tends to be used when the speaker is being vaguely rude about, umn, Edinburgers, and is thus pronounced Edinburgers.

Bear -Surely the horse sized duck? With its enormous webbed feet with which it could crush the life out of everything in its path? And its terryfying beak which could make mincemeat of the remains? Assuming it was an angry horse-sized duck, obviously.
 
 
Jub
12:37 / 13.10.03
Apparently the correct term is Dunediner after the old name for the capital, Dunedin.
 
 
waxy dan
17:58 / 13.10.03
Anyone know the name of that track by Yann Tiersen (I think it's on the Amelie soundtrack) with vocals singing something about 'be strong' and 'who cares what cowards think anyway' in a 4:30-drunk-in-the-morning-in-a-dirty-Parisian-cafe style voice?
 
 
Ariadne
21:14 / 13.10.03
But ... if you say 'Dunediner', people will think you mean someone from Dunedin in New Zealand. Which was named after Edinburgh, certainly, but it could lead to some confusion...

I lived in Edinburgh for four years and never realised I was so un-classified.
 
 
topical b
21:56 / 13.10.03
how come when taking a pee of an ugent nature, and there is sufficiant turgor pressure, my penis does not flail about like an unmanned firehose? i tried it today just to see if it would happen, and it didn't. why?
 
 
Olulabelle
22:04 / 13.10.03
Because (I guess) you are older than six. When my son gets up in the morning his *does* flail about like an unmanned firehose. If I appear in the room soon after he looks panicked and says, "Oh, here's Mummy. I think I need to wipe the seat."

Therefore I think that possibly you learn penis control as you grow.

This is, however, conjecture on my part - as I don't have one.
 
 
My Mom Thinks I'm Cool
05:13 / 14.10.03
anybody ever hear of a place called the "Tired Horse Saloon"? And if so where I could find it?
 
 
wembley can change in 28 days
08:24 / 14.10.03
Yann Tiersen: Les Jours Tristes (Lyrics)

Written by the divine Neil Hannon, of all people.
 
 
William Sack
16:51 / 17.10.03
Does anyone know of a site that gives an accurate picture of healthcare privision in Ethiopia? I need to know specifically about the availability of insulin for diabetics and treatment of those infected with HIV, but a more generalised picture would be useful too.
 
 
Smoothly
17:38 / 17.10.03
This report might give you something, Cash.
(You'll need to download the third PDF down):

This research report examines the effects health sector reforms have had on access to healthcare in Ethiopia, including the establishment of Special Pharmacies. It evaluates the financial and time constraints of seeking healthcare, the availability of resources within households to pay for healthcare, and the strategies households adopt to pay for treatment. It concludes that the major barrier to healthcare continues to be the high cost of drugs, with the result that most continue not to use the public health system. It calls on the government and international community to re-examine their cost recovery policies in the light of this reality, and to explore more equitable alternatives to help make healthcare accessible to the majority.


I'll post again if I can find anything better.
 
 
waxy dan
19:54 / 18.10.03
Thanks wembley, I'm off to kazaa that boy now.

'Nother one, anyone out there any good at Japanese?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
22:01 / 20.10.03
Apologies for cross-posting this in Comics, but it's going to bug me for the rest of my life if I don't find out the answer.

What was the name of the horror strip that used to appear in Eagle (at least, I think it was Eagle)? Had a demon/death figure who, if memory serves, was kicked out of his clan for some reason or other and decided to continue his good work on Earth. One issue even did the strip in a photo story stylee.

For a while I thought it was in Scream, but it looks like I was wrong. Had a very Scream vibe about it...
 
 
Bear
12:52 / 21.10.03
Greetings,

My friend is looking for work in London he's a pipe fitter and I can't seem to find normal jobs on the net anywhere (normal as in not I.T. which everyone knows isn't really working) - I think there might be jobs going on the new Heathrow site does anyone know the engineering company doing the work there?
 
 
Bear
12:55 / 21.10.03
Greetings,

My friend is looking for work in London he's a pipe fitter and I can't seem to find normal jobs on the net anywhere (normal as in not I.T. which everyone knows isn't really working) - I think there might be jobs going on the new Heathrow site does anyone know the engineering company doing the work there?
 
 
Pants Payroll
13:53 / 21.10.03
MordantCarnival:inyourdreams:
"Now, does anyone know if there's anywhere I can read The Book of Thoth online? An e-book or something, I mean."

Didnt notice anyone getting back to you about this. Here is an online version: http://www.choronzon.com/brainwav/thoth/
and here's a Crowley wikipedia featuring a link to a pdf version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley.
Hope this helps.
 
 
_Boboss
14:48 / 21.10.03
randy randy, i think you mean Doomlord, the master of life and bringer of death. green lantern crossed with the manhunter from mars, but in british comics so an utterly remorseless murdermachine cum saviour of the universe. stick 'doomlord british superheroes' or something into google and you'll get planty on him.
 
 
Olulabelle
15:01 / 21.10.03
Bear: Laing O'Rourke are building the new T5 site, Their head office is in Dartford, Kent. Details here:

Laing O'Rourke
Bridge Place
Anchor Boulevard
Admirals Park
Crossways
Dartford
Kent, DA2 6SN

Tel. 01322 296200
Email. info@laingorourke.com

I've just finished working on a video project for them where amongst other things they talk about what good employers they are, so maybe your friend could give them a try.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
18:50 / 21.10.03
Doomlord! DOOMLORD! DOOMLORD!



C'mere, Khaologan23ris, and receive a big sloppy thankyou.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
21:26 / 21.10.03
Ah....Doomlord.
 
 
pomegranate
18:22 / 24.10.03
in the 80's movie tuff turf, starring james spader, he gets on the piano and sings a song to the girl he likes. what song is this? anyone know? i don't even know how to find out.
thanks a mil!
 
 
Pingle!Pop
19:39 / 24.10.03
Aaaaargh!

I (we) have been living in Leeds for the past eight months, and Every Single Night it's possible to hear people chanting/shouting outside the window.

Which is to be expected. But:

It's always exactly the same. In a long, drawn out chant:

[relatively high for beery bloke voice] Glooooria! Glooooooria! [/relatively high] [lower] Glooooria! Glooooooria! [/lower]

Why? Why? What is this chant? Is it connected to a Leeds football/rugby/whatever team? Or am I so completely and ridiculously ignorant of popular culture that I'm baffled by something which anyone else on the planet (perhaps just those with a TV?) could explain instantly? *Breaks down into frustrated tears*

But seriously, if the question seems ignorant, then the naivety isn't feigned; I really, really do *need* to find this out.

Thank'ee.

Oh, and my previous question on this thread was never answered, so for anyone who might have the answer but never saw the question first time round: why are ambidextrous children forced to "choose a hand", rather than being left to use both equally well?
 
  

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