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ONLY NICE THINGS
15:47 / 23.01.07
Not to mention larger Atheisms, the atheisms of Nietzsche or Marx (arguably the most significant Atheist thinkers prior to the recent Anglo-English Science-Atheists), have been tied to undermining the political structures as they stand.

Multitude.tv - hyphens from the hip!
 
 
Princess
19:23 / 25.01.07
I was bored and trying to avoid my essay, so I've been engaging in threadcromancy. Back in the halycon days of 2002 Haus talked about monogamy thusly:



Right, on with the show. Something I find interesting here is that people are conflating "monogamy" with "a lifelong relationship", which it of course is not. If it lasts six weeks, then the opportunity to experience "the wonder of you" is fairly limited. I think there is a certain amount of avoidance going on of the simple fact that monogamous relationships end every day.

On reflection, I realised on the tube last night that monogamy is a lot like 4-4-2 (for those of us in the United States, 4-4-2 is a system for the playing of of "Soccer", or football as the rest of the Universe calls it, in which 4 defenders, 4 midfielders and two attackers make up the formation).

4-4-2 is used by many lower division football teams, because it can through organisation compensate for an absence of individual ability. In essence, two big central defenders of limited technical ability can police the area directly in front of goal, two full backs can police the touchlines and move forward when it is entirely safe to do so, two wide midfielders can apply pressure to the opposition full-backs, two central midfielders can cut out balls through the middle and pass out to the wings, and two strikers can run on to balls and head down crosses for each other. According to the particular abilities of the players available, the system is tweaked, but generally one looks for 2 big centre-backs, 2 small, nippy full-backs, two competent dribblers and crossers, a hardman midfielder and a passing midfielder, a big strong forward and a small nippy forward, with the system compensating for the weaknesses of the players. At lower levels, 4-4-2 is safe and reliable way to use oplayers without the perception, technique or footballing intelligence to make more complex systems like 3-5-2 or the sweeper.

Now, Brazil also often played 4-4-2 during the period of their eminence. There you had a pair of ball-playing central defenders who were able to play intelligent passes across the pitch to set up new attacks, full-backs able to overlap the midfield and provide highly accurate passes infield or dribble past opponenents, wingers with incredible ball skills who could cut out entire defences with skilful passing and running, one central midfielder acted as a playmaking "stopper", combining positional sense with a broad range of passing, the other played in a more advanced role with the responsibility of doing something utterly magical, and the forward were, generally, fast and small with almost prescient awareness of the ball to be able to make perfectly timed runs into unpredictable spaces. A bewildering, enchanting set of interlocking patterns of movement and passing, the Brazillian 4-4-2 resembled its counterpart on the playing fields of England in name only, and yet the basic structure of the system is the same.

So, the point. Done well and skilfully between two emotionally competent people, monogamy is a fantastic and beautiful thing, able to offer different but equally valid arguments for its existence in comparison to all the other intricate and equally beautiful dances available.

On the other hand, if you are a pair of needy, disturbed, childish or just plain dim people, monogamy is probably the way forward because it attempts to minimise the number of situations in which your own resources are pitted against the complexities of the world by imposing an easy-to-follow system.


Haus, you are teh beautiful.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
09:55 / 26.01.07
On the other hand, if you are a pair of needy, disturbed, childish or just plain dim people, monogamy is probably the way forward because it attempts to minimise the number of situations in which your own resources are pitted against the complexities of the world by imposing an easy-to-follow system.

Unless you are incapable of keeping your cock* in your pants, of course.

Why do people always forget that - ahem - part?

But here's what I came to post; the ramblings of a considerably more distressed but equally compelling old curmudgeon. From the Creation thread:

- Not to give in to the bad thoughts again, Mrs Alex.

- But, kindly attendant, my message is of one of love!

- That remains to be seen, dear. In then meantime, can you retire to the day room and watch 'Trisha' please? You're upsetting the other guests.

- Oh I am I? And what have they ever done, any of them? Have they played Ophelia?

- Perhaps not to the same degree, Mrs Alex. And it's arguably a role for a younger lady ...

- So you say, missy!

- Nurse, the screens, please.

So, any thoughts, good or bad, would be appreciated.

It's terrible, being old.

I only wish I'd drunk and smoked more now, because then at least the state would have had to cover my expenses.


* or fanny, ladies!
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
10:20 / 26.01.07
Unless you are incapable of keeping your cock/other in your pants, of course.

Well, quite. It's always worth mentioning that an awful lot of notionally monogamous relationships are not in fact monogamous - they are, for want of a better word, non-consensually polyamorous.

Also, of course, back then there was not so much need to advise people not to get LiveJournals.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
10:40 / 26.01.07
Well I'm going to commit suicide now, if that's any help.

Like that Yukio Mishima did - now there was a man whose ideas I could really respect.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
11:49 / 26.01.07
non-consensually polyamorous

What better word(s) could there be?!

I'm going to stick that on a t-shirt and anyone who understands it can come home with me.

And meet My. Boy. Friend.
 
 
Sniv
11:59 / 26.01.07
What better word(s) could there be?!

Hydrocephalitic listlessness, courtesy of Miss Joanna Newsom.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
12:59 / 26.01.07
But that doesn't actually describe adultery/infidelity like Haus's phrase does. Or does it? Unpack please!
 
 
Quantum
13:09 / 26.01.07
And it´s quite difficult argumenting about that, as there´s simply no common basis for arguments.

evade, now philantrophic bakhuninite teaches us about argumenting in the Dawkins thread in headshop, the thread that also provoked this truly great phrase from the Haus of fun;

runny bum gunge

Classy.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
13:16 / 26.01.07
Yeah, I liked the 4-4-2 metaphor. But them I'm egotistical enough to go "oh yeah I'm totally in Brazil me" when I read it.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:50 / 26.01.07
Credit where it's due - that was Flyboy's phrase, used to describe reidcourchie's contribution elsewhere. Which was, to be strictly fair, a load of runny bum gunge.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
14:16 / 26.01.07
From Whiskey Prietess's opening volley of hir Take That thread in the Music:

The video's super too; sort of MGM musical meets Metropolis. Mark's giving it the soft shoe shuffle in top hat, white tie and tails, swaying and tip-top-tapping like the bastard offspring of the Duracell Bunny and a Weeble. Gary's at the piano, in tails, only shot from above (presumably due to weight issues), and the other two (Howard and Jason?) appear for subliminal snatches of time, lit by what appears to be the blast from a supernova, mainly because they look SO ROUGH.

WP should have to describe things, everything, ALL THE TIME.
 
 
Sniv
20:54 / 26.01.07
No connection to polyamorousness with my last post, btw. Just though it was better word(s) than the previous. I like the way it rolls off the tongue. Sorry for the randomnity.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
08:07 / 28.01.07
Oh, Trams where have you been all my London travelling life!! I can now get a wonderful Tram 3/4 of the way to work in the morning with a quick pause to shout abuse at the Ikea in Croydon. I used to have to get a taxi to do that.

ghadis is happy about public transport in the Morning Bride thread in the Gathering.
 
 
Psych Safeling
20:56 / 28.01.07
Ganesh's "Zuncan Duncan" in Godawful Ads has got me chuckling away like a mild maniac.

And posting on Barbelith for the first time in bloody ages (a compounding combination of confidence and time issues).
 
 
Blake Head
14:48 / 30.01.07
"despite this i feel fucking great, the wife and i have got a little hedonistc weekend away planned for the end of our detox, red wine and a few illegals"

We prefer the term "undocumented worker" around here.


Haus puts a new spin on cliffchuff's pleasure-seeking weekend.
 
 
COG
21:16 / 30.01.07
'Poppies' large cream filled eclairs ARE NOT LARGE. They're so 'large' I had to eat 4. All up.

Twice Five Toes helping to SMASH the advertising media mind control machine.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
05:38 / 01.02.07
Discussing Daniel Radcliffe's appearance on the London stage:

Jack Fear:

News flash: Daniel Radcliffe wows audiences playing a sexually-tormented teen with a screaming Oedipal deathwish!

But enough about Harry Potter. So what's Equus about, anyway?


Finderwolf:

Equus is about a young girl or boy (I forget, been a long time since I read the play) who goes to a therapist after a traumatic incident regarding the blinding of a horse. Turns out the lead character/patient has got all these sexual hangups and he (I'm using 'he' from here on since I don't recall) was in a stable making out/having sex with a member of the opposite sex, the horse freaked out, somehow violence ensued and he blinded the horse. Or something like that. It's like a repressed memory that the therapist character has to get the bottom of/bring out. It won lots of awards back in its day. It's a pretty solid play - I think it was written in the 80s.

Jack Fear:

Sigh.

And then, I think putting the icing on the cake, Grant:

"Equus is one of the most significant English-language plays of the past 30 years. Anybody who hasn't seen it or read it needs to, if they care at all about theater or literature." -- Randy Harrison.

Richard Burton was in the movie, for Flequus' sake.

What they really need to do is cast Michael Gambon as the psychiatrist... now *that* would be something.
 
 
penitentvandal
08:29 / 01.02.07
it's an "indie" National Lampoon's Vacation and I loved it for that...

Hector Lima sums up Little Miss Sunshine in one line.
 
 
Quantum
18:41 / 01.02.07
You're a male, athletic, muscular. You are totally in control of yourself.

Modesty, thy name is Daemon Est Deus Inversus!
 
 
Tsuga
20:32 / 01.02.07
You are sitting at your computer. You are totally laughing your ass off.
 
 
Quantum
11:58 / 03.02.07
Internet pagans *are made of silence*

Delightful soundbite from Mordant Carnival there. It seems so deep...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
11:59 / 03.02.07
I want to record an album just so I can call it that.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
12:01 / 03.02.07
Thanks, but "made of [awesome/win/fail/stupid etc]" is pretty common internet drivel. I'm sure someone will have done "silence" too.
 
 
Quantum
12:15 / 03.02.07
Mordant Carnival *is made of modesty*
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
15:17 / 03.02.07
No wonder she and DEDI get along so well.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
09:18 / 07.02.07
Quantum, on how life sometimes takes unexpected turns:

I'm sure when that woman was a little girl dreaming of being an astronaut she never suspected it would lead to driving 950 miles in adult diapers to kidnap another astronaut.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:00 / 07.02.07
Something really bugs me about the adult diapers aspect of that story. OK, she didn't want to have to stop for a piss. But she was driving nine hundred fucking miles. Surely she'd have had to stop at least a couple of times for petrol anyway?
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
13:08 / 07.02.07
She drove really fast so she'd get there before she ran out of petrol.
THAT MAKES SENSE
I HAVE A HEART CONDITION IF YOU QUESTION MY LOGIC IT IS MURDER
 
 
Quantum
13:10 / 07.02.07
Something really bugs me about the wig and hooded trench coat, pepper spray, knife, rubbish bags, air gun, steel mallet, rubber tubing, gloves, $600 in cash and a bag she had tossed into a trash can in the parking lot. A can of petrol in the boot seems relatively sane.
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
13:24 / 07.02.07
THAT MAKES SENSE
I HAVE A HEART CONDITION IF YOU QUESTION MY LOGIC IT IS MURDER


Barbelith's very own Biz, two posts north.
 
 
Triplets
13:44 / 07.02.07
Guys, where is this diaper wearing spacewoman story from? It sounds, well, great.
 
 
Quantum
13:48 / 07.02.07
Jake- that was riffing Withnail & I, I believe. Triplets, for your delectation, Lust in Space.
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
13:57 / 07.02.07
Oops! Never seen it. Color me uncultured.

The crazed astronaut story probably deserves it's own thread. It's just that crazy/entertaining.
 
 
Leigh Monster loses its cool
14:02 / 07.02.07
huh. you know, when i read that i kinda assumed that she'd got the adult diapers idea from being an astronaut. don't they have to wear something like that when they're in space?

or maybe i just give insane mace-wielding kidnappers too much benefit of the doubt.
 
  

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