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Red Concrete
23:39 / 20.06.08
Drunken ramblings follow, I will recant tomorrow afternoon.

When did our sympathies start to lie with the Hollows, anyway? It's been a slow build over the whole Hueco Mundo arc...

Ichigo is an arrancar. When he comes out of the pit in 64, he tears off his hollow mask. Which is how arrancar are formed.

Yes. First time it clicked for me was later on, running through the sewers of Soul Society, where this protective mask reappears .. inside Ichigo's (I have to re-read and re-watch that now to see if there are any anime-manga differences..).

So Hollows are not evil on the same level as for example Aizen. Hollows reflect a more directly base instinct - a hunger for souls/spirit particles which reflects the spiritual anguish of the original human. Aizen is some sort of angelic being, who has rebelled, rejected the beliefs of the Soul Society institutions, and damned himself, by his actions, if not (yet) by his aims. Which calculated evil is so much worse than the more primal evil of a Hollow.

All this makes me wonder about the "souls" of soul society which were, as we know, originally people. Even Aizen, presumably, was a living person who died and either moved straight to Soul Society, or was a hollow "cleansed" by a soul reaper. As early as Orihime's brother we have seen that the hollows are not necessarily lost as souls, that the line is grey, certainly grayer than the shinigami think. Hum ho.
 
 
Seth
15:23 / 21.06.08
Ichigo is an arrancar. When he comes out of the pit in 64, he tears off his hollow mask. Which is how arrancar are formed.

Arrancar are Hollow that have removed their mask and gained Shinigami powers, Vaizard are Shinigami that have gained a mask along with Hollow powers. Ichigo was never a Hollow, the reason he had to tear his mask off was through lack of control over that side of himself. Shinji and Hiyori can both remove their mask at will while leaving it manifested showing that they have gained the control that he lacked. When Shinji first greets Ichigo as a Vaizard he says they are "kin." When Arrancar release their zanpakutos they partially restore their masks but lose part of their human form, something that does not happen to Ichigo, who wears a full mask but retains human form like the other Vaizard. I don't think the comic supports a reading of Ichigo-as-Arrancar.
 
 
madfigs #32, now with wasabi
15:38 / 21.06.08
I'm not really sold on the "Ichigo as arrancar" idea, there are too many discrepancies with what we know. In his spirit form, he wears the standard shinigami outfit instead of a snazzy white arrancar uniform. He doesn't have a hollow hole or a permanent partial mask (although we haven't seen his ENTIRE body, I think he would have noticed by now). His hollow release is also different than all the other arrancar we've seen so far - instead of reverting to a hollow form, he just gets the mask.

It seems more likely that the Vizard just have a different set of abilities than either arrancar or shinigami. What we've seen in the Turn Back the Pendulum arc seems consistent with Ichigo's experience. Although it didn't actually show the others removing their masks, we know that they did start out in hollow form so their process must have ended up being similar.

EDIT: As usual, El Directo is too fast!
 
 
nanao-chan
14:19 / 22.06.08
Let me amend a bit my observation that Ichigo is an arrancar. Ichigo goes through two hollowification processes, the first one which is very similar to what we know of becoming an arrancar, and the second one with the vizard. As Red Concrete points out, after the first hollowification, but prior to the second one, his hollow mask keeps reappearing on its own.

Ichigo develops a hollow hole in both of his hollowifications but they apparently close up once he gains control over his hollow side. So far we have encountered one arrancar who is far more decent and honorable than many shinigami, Nel Tu (and somebody who helped me develop a lot of sympathy for Hueco Mundo!). We have not seen Nel's hollow hole yet. Halibel's another sober, even-tempered arrancar, and we haven't seen a hollow hole either. Telegraphing that there's not much difference between shinigami and arrancar after all?

Coming back to the latest comic book, -97, what's the deal with the untraceable gigai? As Aizen described it to Rukia, the gigai would cause the shinigami to lose their powers and become human. But none of the 10 gigai escapees seem to have lost their powers. Was Aizen lying to Rukia? Did Urahara modify the gigai while in the human world? And, when will Ichigo be able to fight wearing civilian clothes like the Vizards do?
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
16:56 / 22.06.08
The gigais used by the eight proto-Vizards, Tessai and Urahara, we can assume, were designed not to drain the user's reiatsu in the same way as the one palmed off on Rukia; it certainly wouldn't have been an advantage for them to flee to Earth in bodies that would deprive them of their powers, which as captains and lieutenants are hard-won and indispensable for the future campaign against Aizen. The main question I now want answered is how Aizen and Urahara could both have waited so many decades before putting their main games into motion, given that both seem to be already at their full strength during the period of this story. Perhaps, as was touched on upthread, Aizen only gained access to Soul Society's deeper secrets once he became captain at a later date - although I'm guessing with the disappearance of so many captains and lieutenants at once his promotion would have been almost immediate - and was only then able to determine that he'd need the original Hougyoku and the King's Key to achieve his ultimate ambition. Urahara, for his part, was far less prepared for events than his opponent and probably took a good while to establish his power base in Karakura, create a toehold in the cross-worlds black economy, and come to the eventual conclusion that if the Vizards couldn't be fixed, they could be turned into a damn effective irregular fighting force.

When Urahara and Tessai found themselves being cross-examined by SEELE, you just knew they were screwed. Or, slightly more seriously, this is the point where we can finally abandon any notion that Soul Society over the last few centuries has been anything other than a corrupt, decadent, viciously authoritarian and rigid gerontocracy - having seen Central Room 46 at their height, what Aizen did to them really doesn't seem like such a bad thing. Yet more fuel on the fire of our sneaking belief that he isn't eeevil, just extremely self-centred, amoral, and dedicated to a goal that no one in the audience quite yet understands.

I'm fully gay for Yoruichi as of this issue, by the way, not that I wasn't already - she isn't implicated in T&U's crimes against nature at all, and surely could expect to weather this crisis unscathed given her high social standing and near-limitless resources, yet she unhesitatingly throws it all away to help her two friends, in a manner that she can't expect to come back from in a hurry. Of course, the fact that she's never been charged with a crime, together with her unbreakable emotional sway over her successor, means that she'd find it far easier to reestablish her position, but it was still a wonderfully heroic moment from one of Bleach's most ambiguous characters. I've said before that one of the things that keeps this series from getting comfortable is the way all of the parental or mentor figures are riddled with secrets, false identities and reasons to mistrust their motives, and Yoruichi embodies that just as much as do Urahara, Ryuken or Isshin.
 
 
nanao-chan
17:07 / 22.06.08
So where did Aizen come from? Why did the hollows rescue him and Tousen and Gin when they were cornered by the Gotei 13? Why do the Espada even obey him? It seems strange that an outsider to Hueco Mundo should wield so much power there.

Perhaps Aizen spent these many years establishing a power base in Hueco Mundo, and once that was solidified set his plans in motion?
 
 
Triplets
20:42 / 22.06.08
As with Lord Genome in Tengen-Toppa Gurren Laggan we've been given next to nothing on Aizen's history for so long it's almost unnoticeable, which probably means his story is the biggest twist of all.

Over the last few weeks I've taken to reading a few random chapters from way back to see if it brings anything forgotten to life. I came across one of Kaname's flashbacks. His lady-love ended up dead at the hands of her angry boyfriend and fellow shinigami (obviously poor Kaname loved her more! He's a total barbeloid).

He monologues about how, not that her death was unfair or unjust (although that might be just taken as obvious) but that perhaps she was too weak to uphold justice and that he will find enough power to do that himself. So already dodgy motivations.

Kaname was, apparently, never a "natural" shinigami but that he took his beloved's zanpakutou after her death and made himself one. Which speaks of an insane level of commitment to strength and/or "justice".
(unless Aizen hand a hand in this? What if he used a Shattered Shaft to make Kaname a shinigami? What if he's Aizen's Ichigo?).

Basic guess is that Kaname still holds major beef towards Seireitei for his friend's death but has melded it with really twisted notions of power. Something that hollowification experimenter Aizen could dangle in front of him like a rabbit and carrot. He doesn't need any fancy hypnosis because Kaname's got a big enough hook in him already.

Wild guess: Kaname might have his own zanpakutou but uses his friend's one as a symbol of his justice quest. We've seen Kenpachi beat Tousen's bankai, but what if he's got some hidden suprises?

I love this show.
 
 
_pin
12:22 / 27.06.08
Representative sentences:

"Something strange is happening on Earth!!"

"Whoa?!"
 
 
nanao-chan
13:21 / 27.06.08
What's the deal with AIZEN'S HAIR???
 
 
Red Concrete
18:28 / 27.06.08
Aizen's hair might be a cleaning artifact? Are you reading onemanga?

This seemed a bit like a recap issue - i.e. not a terrible amount happening, apart from an indication that this battle is going to start at a high level...

Interesting that Tite Kubo is taking next week off... I wonder if that's due to exhaustion, because there's something special coming the week after, or just to help the anime catch up a little more.
 
 
Seth
20:34 / 27.06.08
I heard he's got an American convention appearance coming up, not sure when that is though...

Wow, Ulquiorra's overconfident isn't he? He's up against Ichigo, Rukia, Chad, Renji, Ishida, Kenpachi, Yachiru, Byakuya, Mayuri, Nemu, Unohana, Isane, um, Hanatarou... and of course Orihime herself, who may have a decisive role considering how obsessed Schiffer is when it comes to her. Plus Nel, Pesche and Dondo Chakka. Admittedly there are wildcards like Grimmjow, Gantenbein and Yammi in the mix, but besides the latter you can't really tell where their loyalties lie these days. Is Ulquiorra clutching at straws? Does he have a couple of tricks up his sleeve? Just how big is the gap between four and five? It seems that Inoue isn't even fazed by his creepy stalker routine these days. What's left for the emo kid other than a crushing defeat? I guess we've got to assume that things will play out differently than expected, especially with the Hougyoku's whereabouts still unknown.

Did I really just list twenty one characters in just one isolated part of the story?

So, the Karakura battle. The opening salvo is made much more exciting by the expectation that the Vaizard are on the way and not knowing where anyone's power level or allegiance lies. The top three are totally unknown quantities, as are their Fraccion. Stark, for example, has so far seemed like quite a nice bloke for an Espada. Aizen himself is frighteningly powerful but safely out of the battle for a while, not because of Ryujin Jakka, but because he has chosen the sidelines.

Meanwhile the Vaizard are indebted to Urahara but in practise we don't know what that entails. Kisuke has taken steps to protect Karakura Town in collaboration with the Gotei 13, but whether he'll take steps to protect the Gotei 13 themselves is another matter. He might want them safely out of the picture to mount his own takeover of Seireitei, we just don't know enough about him and his motives yet apart from that he is in opposition to Aizen. The Vaizard might play this like Battle Royale and pick off the weakened survivors - whether they're Shinigami or Arrancar - in order to strengthen their own position. They might seek to redeem themselves in the eyes of the Gotei 13, they might want vengeance...

... and they might want an alliance with Aizen, who despite causing them no end of grief has shown them the way to increased power and revealed much of the corruption of Soul Society to them.

One possible outcome is that neither of the two main sides facing off in this issue will win, and that the Vaizard will become the principle antagonists, picking up Aizen's plan to attack the King right where Sousuke left off. With the Vaizard in the mix there's a very real possibility that Aizen might ultimately fail here.

Plus there's the possibility that Division Zero might make an appearance. This battle is ultimately a threat to them, too. If Aizen wins here then they're next in his sights.

Anyway, interesting that it feels like such a long time since we've seen any of these characters, even the ones that featured in their earlier incarnations in TBtP. And it's an amazing showcase for Kubo's design work, each character looking beautifully realised and strikingly different to everyone else.

I don't trust this set of circumstances. Not by a long shot. Certainly not when you could interpret Old Man Yama's actions as protecting Aizen, Tousen and Gin from some bloody nasty fighting...
 
 
Seth
20:44 / 27.06.08
Ultimately I don't think Aizen will lose his status as principle antagonist unless he becomes the right hand man of someone larger. Yamamoto is one of the few characters who might fit the bill, and is certainly a more appropriate end of game baddie for Ichigo to fight given both his power type and his status of representing everything that is Soul Society, which Ichigo has been systematically dismantling from the beginning. That leaves Urahara to take on Aizen, which seems like a much better match.
 
 
Razor Wind
00:16 / 29.06.08
I've gone past my nails and started on the knuckles by now. When's Old Man Yama going to get it? I thought he'd had it when he started up early. What's going to happen when the Strawberries get to the tower? Orihime using her power to rewind the MacGuffinko to the point of creation,causing a,"Just as planned" moment from Aizen? How did Aizen set it up so that he wouldn't have to lift a finger to win (I can believe it,BTW)? What are the Vaizards going to do?

WHAT!
 
 
Seth
01:31 / 02.07.08
An interesting snippet from Ju-Ni:

Kubo is out on an information gathering trip, no doubt thinking up some bizarre twist for the plot to take. I'm giving 10:1 that Aizen is trying to unite the Shinigami and Hollows against Hell itself.

Hmmm... assuming it's Bleach related (no reason to suppose that it isn't, what with interviews indicating that it takes up his entire life), what could this be about? It's not like Bleach uses a lot of real locations...
 
 
Seth
01:33 / 02.07.08
Plus I have no idea how they reached that speculative conclusion. It doesn't look like Aizen is trying to unite anyone against anything.
 
 
Triplets
19:28 / 02.07.08
Could Cube-O not be taking a bit of a sabbatical from it, the hellish, devouring monster he's inflicted on himself? I know after 7 years of writing Bleach I'd be willing to sit-off on the beach for a bit, in the company of the interesting sex.
 
 
nanao-chan
21:12 / 02.07.08
Bah, Kubo is a piker compared to Rumiko Takahashi, who kept Inuyasha going for 12 years / 56 volumes / 558 chapters.

I've resumed my Inuyasha habit while waiting for Bleach to return, and I'm noticing a lot of parallels between Inuyasha and Bleach. And Inuyasha and Ichigo, including their swords. Maybe there's only so much that can be done within the shonen genre.
 
 
Seth
01:01 / 03.07.08
It's never what is done, it's how it's done.
 
 
Triplets
09:11 / 03.07.08
Random thought: Gigai for Hollows or, at least, Arrancar? We've not seen them use anything like that yet but it makes me wonder.

Thought inspired by the moment Mayuri looks inside Szayel's science wardrobe.
 
 
Seth
11:30 / 03.07.08
For once I'll request that this image isn't resized, as if it were smaller you wouldn't be able to see what I'm getting at...

This is the splash page for the very first issue:



Now look closely... in the strip with portraits of the classmates behind Ichigo and Rukia... notice who is second from the right, just to the left of Tatsuki.

Funny to see him there in issue one in August 2001 when he doesn't actually appear in the comic until what must be around early to mid 2005. From the context Kubo at least knew the character design and that he would be in Ichigo's class, how much more he had planned from the start can't be ascertained.

Makes me wonder how many more of these little Easter Eggs are hidden about the place. And who is that on the far left? Did he build in little blind alleys that he could open up later on? Because right now I can't imagine how long it will be before we see these guys back in class for another introduction...
 
 
Seth
11:25 / 11.07.08
317... I think that's the first time in years I've cried while reading a comic.
 
 
Triplets
11:52 / 11.07.08
That was, indeed, pure WIN.

Also: El D hit then nail on the head ages ago in the TV thread:

the faintly queasy suggestion that Ulquiorra, a character hitherto seen as cold, calm, composed and conscious of all his actions might be subject to dark psychological imperatives that are beyond his comprehension

Schiffer comes across as a fucking ice loony in this one.
 
 
Razor Wind
20:12 / 11.07.08
I can't add much to this,except to say that this is the first time I've explicitly heard Orihime referring to the Strawberries as nakama in all but name. Good Rukia and Renji moments too.
 
 
Seth
02:47 / 12.07.08
So are we about to get backstory on Ulquiorra Schiffer? He's one of the main characters who I'm desperate to know more about. On a surface level everything he says to Orihime in 317 is couched in threats of violence, but the subtext is that he's absolutely fascinated by her, nearly to the point at which he's consumed by his interest. He's been impressed by her from the start, but here he's almost desperate to know what gives her certainty, and is fixated on understanding what she means when she talks about her shared heart with her nakama. The irony of Ulquiorra is that his all-seeing eye is absolutely blind to his own motives as much as it is blind to hers. He's far beyond a detached adherence to his duty now.

And what in the blue hell is going on here with the absence of Yammi? I know you probably all think I'm obsessing about this, but there are pretty good reasons for me being so suspicious. He's previously been portrayed as very matey-matey with Schiffer, and next to Grimmjow is probably The Espada Least Likely To Stay In His Bedroom Like He's Told By Daddy. In narrative terms he is now functionally redundant by the received wisdom of Professional Bleach Analysts: he is the Tenth Espada, supposedly the weakest of the lot, kept in reserve until a point in the narrative at which his superiors Nine through Five are all either dead (Aaroniero Arrureurie, Szayel Aporro Granz, Zommari Leroux, Nnoitra Jiruga) or seemingly neutralised (Grimmjow Jeagerjaques). He's been defeated and humiliated in every major confrontation he's had. He's a boring, lumbering lunkhead. According to the Bleach Standards of Escalating Threat we should have expected him to be cannon fodder in the opening chapters of the Hueco Mundo invasion, third to bite the bullet after Iceringer and the Privaron Espada. Why is he being kept back like some kind of secret weapon?

I guess it's my hope that Yammi will turn up next issue as another obstacle for Ichigo to overcome. Ishida's also curiously M.I.A. in 317, strange considering he's the fastest of the Karakura Gang... he's bound to turn up in the rescue attempt but chances are won't be offered a huge rescue role, and the also absent Wonderwice would probably make a good opponent for him. If Yammi were to turn up then it could go one of two ways; either he restrains Orihime while Ulquiorra and Ichigo fight; or Yammi delays Ichigo, leaving Inoue to face off against Schiffer herself. The latter is the much preferred option round at chez El Directo, mainly because it would be something utterly unprecedented in Bleach and would give Orihime some stunning material and the chance for an outcome that couldn't possibly be predicted.

Enough speculation. Lots of good things about 317. Lots and lots. The art is a thing of beauty and so many of the amazing moments rely on its pace and peerless sense of movement. The sequences of Ichigo charging across the desert interior of Las Noches move at Space Harrier velocity and his expression of determination is wonderfully composed. This is something that Kubo will always have over an artist like Frank Quitely: nuance and characterisation in facial expression. What he lacks in background detail he more than makes up in the personalities of his people. Nowhere is that better displayed than in Ichigo's reunion with Chad and Rukia. Ichigo's face here shows a cry of astonishment and gratitude that we've never seen from him before, yet it looks totally in keeping with the moment and his personality. Yet somehow even this is bettered by the longer shot of Rukia's face after their eyes meet and she releases Ichigo to fight Ulquiorra. It was these moments that bought a tear to my eye. So much passes between them in these panels that you feel as though these are real character actors given the best material of their careers rather than black and white drawings on a page. That quality of expression keeps up in Rukia's bad ass facing down of Rudobon, two panels that are pregant with the expectation of a great showdown between the two.

The use of the Exequias here is also nicely judged. I rather liked Cirucci and Dordonii, and now we know why Kubo killed them so callously by these vultures... he wanted us to hate the fuckers for wasting two characters who had rather a lot of potential. They've been barely touched upon in the story to the extent that they're easily forgotten, and suddenly appearing as a small army as a last line of defense gave me a tiny LOTR-style thrill, almost as if Rukia and Rudobon were Eowyn and the Witch King respectively.

I think many of these moments would be impossible without the scale and pace of Kubo's writing. Ichigo, Chad, Rukia and Renji haven't seen each other since issue 248. That's nearly eighty issues ago, or about a year and a half for the reader who's been at this week-in, week-out! They all swore to live through what was to come and meet each other again... one of the benefits of such a long-form format is that when Renji and Ishida are being tortured by Szayel, or Rukia has been taken to hell and back and left for dead, you really are left in the ringer worrying about them for weeks, sometimes months on end, not knowing how things will turn out. Yes, Kubo is resistant to killing or permanently scarring his heroes, but he really pushes that expectation to near breaking point. 317 really felt like a huge pay-off for so much of this storyline, somehow made all the better by the pace never letting up for a second.

Pause for breath. I will stop now.
 
 
Seth
03:08 / 12.07.08
No I won't. I'm all about Chad's thumbs-up. Wicked touch.
 
 
Maat
10:39 / 18.07.08
My Boys! That last splash page nearly killed me ded from squee.
*flails*
 
 
Seth
11:09 / 18.07.08
318... thoughts.

We're missing three characters from the Karakura Town face-off, aren't we? The deployment pattern seems to be to send out Captains with their Lieutenants - both to Karakura and Hueco Mundo - but Nanao and Kiyone/Sentaro; are nowhere to be seen. And talking of what fits the pattern and what doesn't, it makes me even angrier with Aizen that Hinamori isn't guarding the pillars with Hisagi and Kira where she belongs.

Baragan almost certainly isn't first amongst the Espada, this strikes me as typical misdirection. He's probably pulling rank due to seniority and I can see him getting his behind whipped hard through his blind arrogance (evidence: Halibel is nowhere near as keen to take charge, but she is the one who correctly judges that Aizen is only staying trapped through choice). My money is on Stark as the real bad-ass Espada Number 1, just because Kubo seems to be taking such delight in making him appear to be a kindly, reluctant bufoon (his relationship with Lilinette, his gurning reaction to the flames...). In the midst of such a confrontation it's the ones who feel they have time and space to prat about who are the most relaxed. Kubo has taken time to humanise Halibel and Stark, along with their Fraccion... they're some the few Arrancar to be portrayed with any degree of humour or friendly concern for each other. From experience this is a clear sign that the writer likes them, so hopefully they'll stick around a while.

... come to think of it, Baragan taking charge could be seen as evidence that there is ZERO power difference between these top three, and they may all claim joint First position. What I'm convinced of is that we haven't seen proof of who is the top dog yet. All bets are off until we see the numbers.

Aizen still seems to be deliberately setting his own troops up for a fall. He seems primarily concerned with the destruction of Heuco Mundo. He has created beings more powerful that the original Espada but lacking in the experience of the Privaron, let alone the Shinigami they're facing (three of whom have been operating at Captain rank for over a hundred years).

Further evidence of this is him handing the reigns of Hueco Mundo over to a blind man. Aizen knows what Ichigo represents, I'd lay money that he deliberately sent Ulquiorra to Karakura Town to assess Ichigo because Schiffer is blind to intangibles ("My eye sees everything... what it doesn't see doesn't exist."). He cannot assess the ties that bind people together and he cannot assess potential and so he assumes that these things have no reality. Throughout the Soul Society and Turn Back the Pendulum stories Aizen has demonstrated that relationships and manipulating potential are where he excels, and so it's my belief that he deliberately sent Ulquiorra to sus Ichigo because to the other Espada he would seem the best equipped for the task, setting up a situation in which the Invasors would be endlessly underestimated by anyone who faced them.

So now he's abandoned Hueco Mundo, and abandoned his top three in the face of a mammoth Soul Society force. If his goal is to become King himself then he's already shown admirable qualifications for becoming exactly the same kind of absent demiurge.
 
 
nanao-chan
02:23 / 19.07.08
Hinamori isn't guarding the pillars with Hisagi and Kira where she belongs.

The four who did get assigned to guard the pillars are stronger in swordsmanship than kido. Hinamori has strong kido skills but hasn't displayed much swordsmanship. So even if Hinamori were at 100% it doesn't look like she would have been assigned to pillar guardian duty.

Of the current Soul Society captains the only one who has displayed a balance of kido and fighting skills is Byakuya. Is it that hard to achieve a balance, or are kido skills deprecated in some way?
 
 
hachiman
13:10 / 21.07.08
Hmm, its amazing how deeply you lot think about this series. it makes me a little jealous.

At the moment after catching up on the last 3 chapters, I'm really happy to see the group together, i love how Inoue's strength is shining through, and i'm hoping for an EPIC beatdown bteween Ichigo and Ulquiorra. After the awesome fight we had against Grimmjow, i think Ichigo's got what it takes, but i'm scared that El Directo is right and that the gap between 4 and 5 is enough to justify Ulquiorra's confidence. We shall see.

One thing i noticed rereading the Soul Society arc, is how the return of Hinamori and Hitsugaya from their deaths at Aizen's hands robbed those scenes of their incredible impact on me at the time. I'm torn between wanting that kind of finality to this battle, and losing the characters i've grown to like and care about.

Maybe this will only be an opening salvo in the war between Soul Society and Hueco Mundo, we'll see.
 
 
Seth
16:24 / 23.07.08
The Ju-Ni translation is out, and the lines between Barragan and Halibel are worded that much more strongly, leading me to doubt my hierarchy misdirection a little:

Barragan: What a dilemma. Our enemies are many, and the boss got himself trapped.

Halibel: Speaking that way towards Aizen-sama is out of line, Barragan.

Barragan: Speaking that way towards me is out of line, Halibel.

There's much more of a hierarchy implied here, with Barragan clearly believing himself to be above Halibel and Halibel seeming to be much more deferential towards Aizen. I still believe all bets are off until we see the numbers, but I'm a little shakier that this is definitely a red herring now.

On another note, I've just started reading the manga sequentially from the very beginning (something that I've never done before, believe it or not... possibly I'm a bit naive in the belief that I know the story back to front), and I've already noticed a whole ton of things that I intend to write about in just the first eight chapters. More to come!
 
 
Maat
09:29 / 25.07.08
319 - Oh TK I love your art so much. I wanna icon of Matsumoto's look of contempt on page 5. Yumi totally for the Win, Izuru is so going to kick Baragan's ass and how have I not noticed before that Shuuhei is wearing a collar?

Look, can it just be taken as read that I'm not going to be able to contribute anything coherent until we find out whether we are going to get to see Yumichika, Shuuhei and Izuru get bankai and we get to see The Saddest Clown in full release.

Until then I just imagine me over in the corner running round in small circles and making high pitched squeaking noises.
 
 
Red Concrete
08:51 / 26.07.08
So what's with all the royal this, majesty that when the flunkies are referring to Barragan? Was he the king of Hueco Mundo before Aizen stepped in? Is he still? I think we need another flashback to that moment.

I hope Tito doesn't cut from fight to fight to fight to fight and back for the next few issues.. I have such a problem with names and faces that I'll end up completely bamboozled. My names memory filled up during the Soul Society arc
 
 
Triplets
19:07 / 26.07.08
Barragan is the Anti-Yamamota for this arc. He's statesman-like, composed, large and in-charge, just like the leader of the Gotei 13.

Throughout this series we've seen a ranked progression of fights in pretty much sequential order to what Ichigo/The Protagonists can (just about) handle. Barragan isn't fighting Ichigo here so he could very well be Espada #1, Ichigo not having worked his way through numbers 3 and 2.

I don't think Barragan was a king before Aizen came. Ecosystems don't need 'kings'. If anything he may have been some sort of alpha-predator, similar to an old bear in a forest. Slow to rise but terrifying when it comes after you.
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
23:27 / 26.07.08
Interesting that we have two 'kings' among the Espada, one wannabe, one perhaps genuine. I may be racing ahead of the storyline here but one key distinction is that so far, Barragan has rather more regard for his underlings than did Grimmjow, who treated his (fairly formidable, at least as it appeared at that time) Fracción as throwaway cannon fodder. These four immediately show a lot more promise character-wise than did Shawlong and co., with Findor's (who I'm labelling Zoltar for the duration of this plotline thanks to his nostalgic mask design) Byakuya-class arrogance, comedy nutter Charlotte Coolhorn - a good name - seemingly having wandered in from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, and Po and Abirama nicely mismatched with their opponents. On that last, I think we're all feeling the Kira love as never before and this initially placeholder-ish fight just became potentially one of those that'll go down in Bleach history... I hope so.

"He is a quiet man, but he is fierce." Too, much, win. I may need to join Ma'at in the corner.

And since one staple of Bleach is characters unexpectedly revealing that they knew all along stuff no one was supposed to, I'm calling it that Ikkaku's 'secret' bankai is already well known to Yamamoto, and probably Ukitake and Kyouraku too - he's going to be made to face up to his responsibilities like it or not.
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
09:07 / 27.07.08
Report on Tite Kubo's appearance at San Diego Comic Con. It's his first time ever out of Japan, bless him.
 
  

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