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Alex's Grandma
03:51 / 11.02.08
Surely none of us can make any decisions about anything, until shortly before half past Eleven, on December 23, 2012?
 
 
Dutch
04:13 / 11.02.08
Alright, maybe I'm poking my smelly toes in a sore, but I seem to pick up an entrenchment of sorts forming here.

Now, the poster formerly known as peter75 (TPFKAP) has apologised, in I think in a fair way. While there are some hooks to his apology, probably due to the subsequent use of caps and exclamation marks, I think he's really trying to add seriously to the content of this message board. His contribution to the Switchboard with regards to the oil-addiction thread have, imho, been though out and fairly balanced., for instance.

I don’t think TPFKAP is trying to troll, I don’t think he is trying to promote racism, and I don’t think it’s entirely fair to accuse him of such. That being said, I think this whole discussion, and the board as a whole, could benefit from posters taking a deep breath and stepping away from the keyboard for a minute.

Maybe it’s just my relative noobness with regards to this board, but I don’t think I‘ve seen such an immediate and harsh discussion erupt so quickly before.

I am wondering if this is a sort of quick reaction to the admittedly very slight influx of new posters, by older posters, in order to try and set certain boundaries immediately before things get out of hand and sexist/racist/agist/trollish, that might, in this case, be a little premature.

* Note. I am not trying to condone any kind of the previous ism’s, all I’m saying is that the nerves triggered by this particular discussion seem to me to be on edge much more than before.

* 2nd note. While I don’t intend to hide behind the comfort zone of “English is only my second language”, I might have missed nuances in this discussion that native speakers might have noticed easily.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
04:22 / 11.02.08
It'll be a bit gutting if it's just another day, but I have faith.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
04:26 / 11.02.08
cross-post with Dutch, there.
 
 
*
05:04 / 11.02.08
Sorry, can't respond to you, Gran and Dutch. Or rather I could but it would all be radically misinterpreted because planetary nonsense. Trala!
 
 
Alex's Grandma
05:28 / 11.02.08
Mars, cavanaugh, is against you, it seems.

But, not to worry! There are other worlds.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
05:38 / 11.02.08
(Which is to say, only, that they're about to invade. And that I failed. That I hadn't taken enough meds before the examination began. Gah.)
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
08:06 / 11.02.08
Surely it's not good to be drinking in the morning Grandma?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:59 / 11.02.08
Ah, but is it morning if you haven't been to bed?
 
 
Whisky Priestess
09:20 / 11.02.08
It's all one long, dark night of the soul, surely?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
09:24 / 11.02.08
The sun is never over the yard-arm, for there is no sun.
 
 
Fungus of Consciousness
09:28 / 11.02.08
Mayan calendars suggest that there will be no decisions to make after December 23rd 2012. In which case I an work happily on my sclerosis until that time....
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
09:36 / 11.02.08
Arterial rather than multiple, I hope.
 
 
Fungus of Consciousness
09:42 / 11.02.08
Arterial sclerosis and liver cirrhosis.

Even the end of the world has a bright side.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
14:32 / 11.02.08
Especially when they're dropping bombs that light everything up with a BOOM. That's pretty bright.

Granny, I think, is our Nostradamus-- who knows to what extent her visions grow, you know, while she downs martini after martini, looking for the future in the vermouth bottle (which she passes, ever so slowly, beside the gin for the "purposes of mixing" -- a purist, our Granny!).
 
 
Janean Patience
17:49 / 11.02.08
Granny passes vermouth? Now that's a heavy drinker.
 
 
matthew.
22:47 / 26.02.08
A certain longstanding mod has been rather... sarcastic, or at least that's how it seems. Instead of getting into a fight with hir, I am simply venting that some people on Barbelith are annoying as fuck. Why bother posting on a subject that you clearly hate just to piss people off?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
00:21 / 27.02.08
What? I'm just trying to talk about Dave Sim's art. If you feel that's enough to leave Barbelith in a huff again, go for it, but I think you'll find that you're the one who hit the douche-out button with "cram it in your cram-hole", perhaps the shittest rejoinder of 2008 to date.

I just love the art, here. I thought you loved the art, too. I was going to share with you my secret treasure trove. But now? Now I just don't know.
 
 
Slim
00:22 / 27.02.08
Good god, man. This is the internet.
 
 
matthew.
00:33 / 27.02.08
Well first of all, I didn't leave Barbelith in a huff. I was just annoyed by the constant bickering between you and everybody else, Haus. You're very annoying. Secondly, the cram it comment comes from Futurama. I simply stole it.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
00:39 / 27.02.08
You know, I don't think you like Dave Sim's art at all. I am sorely disappointed. Even Gail Simone managed to like the art.

For reference, though, I don't think I bicker with everyone. I bicker with douches, because banning them is too difficult. I have no idea what pierced that thin, thin skin of yours, especially since I seem to remember being very good about not responding to your comedy porn - that was you, wasn't it? - but I'm sure you could refresh my memory. However, to do so would be to waste valuable time that could otherwise be spent talking about the art.
 
 
matthew.
00:47 / 27.02.08
No that wasn't me with the comedy porn. At least I don't think so. I don't know exactly what you're talking about.

Haus, I'm pretty sure I came back to Barbelith so that I could discuss things on a message board rather than fight with you about Dave Sim. I didn't come back because I wanted to follow whatever Barbe-drama is making the top of Policy. I didn't come back so that I could participate in banning ShadowSax or whoever. I came back to Barbelith so that I could have an online conversation, not an online tussle with you.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
00:54 / 27.02.08
What? I wanted to talk about the art. I really don't get what the problem is.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
01:03 / 27.02.08
Sorry, serious now. Regarding comedy porn - here, although the funny bit was "Just by the by, I got 4.6 out of 5 from the good readers of Literotica, providing me with an A- in fapping", rather than the porn itself.
 
 
matthew.
01:19 / 27.02.08
Holy shit you are irritating.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
01:21 / 27.02.08
It's not going to be a classic Barbannoy, then. Still, I tried..
 
 
matthew.
01:25 / 27.02.08
I don't think I'm being sensitive here. You haven't said anything that has offended me, or made me feel like I'm being insulted. You're just being an asshole. And I don't fully understand why.
 
 
matthew.
01:46 / 27.02.08
Well now I do. Thank you for responding in thread.
 
 
*
01:24 / 20.03.08
I find it difficult to articulate why FoC's posts in the Consent thread make me feel so violently nauseous, at least without using the words "fucking shithead" several times in a row. Since Ex has been explaining so nicely, I'm prepared to accept that the failure may well be mine. Maybe I am simply not mature enough to discuss the topic of getting a woman (who does not want to have sex with one) drunk in order to fuck her dispassionately in the abstract.
 
 
Jack Fear
02:06 / 20.03.08
I'm prepared to accept that the failure may well be mine.

Were only the Fungus of Consciousness prepared to do the same.

There are few things more pernicious than the ingrained need to see oneself as A Normal Bloke, with the added assumption that there CANNOT BY DEFINITION POSSIBLY be anything wrong with the institution of Normal Blokiness.
 
 
Fungus of Consciousness
03:35 / 20.03.08
Well maybe the problem is you.

I don't think I ever proposed the idea of getting a girl "drunk enough to fuck her". I was pointing out the effect of a law on something most people, who frankly, have been sexually active, and who drink, have experienced. If you had actually read the post you would understand that the situation I referred to was one where two people who had no previous sexual relations go to a bar, get drunk together and then leave and have consensual sex.

Maybe I'm a "sex predator" for admitting that I have engaged in such activity. I don't know.

So Australiagate Part 2 is it then?
 
 
Fungus of Consciousness
03:47 / 20.03.08
I would have thought that the following makes it reasonably clear:

"I think most men, and probably most women, would experienced the situation where the "tension" exists and alcohol had been a catalyst for the removal of any residual inhibition. I certainly don't advocate getting women drunk for the express purpose of "getting into her pants". Indeed, I agree that you would walk a fairly dangerous (not to mention sleazy) line by doing so.

So I kind of fail to see where the issue is. Maybe you're finding it hard to articulate because the issue just doesn't exist, or you're projecting dome further meaning that doesn't exist. Either way your anger shouldn't exist as your assertion is unsupported.

Why am I having to defend myself against such rubbish? Have I called anyone a "fucking shithead"? Have I called the "Normal Bloke" defence?

Honestly.
 
 
*
03:47 / 20.03.08
I said I cannot discuss it dispassionately in the abstract. Apparently you cannot either, because you keep pulling up real examples from your own life or making up hypothetical examples out of your imagination in order to make it more concrete. My point is that even as an abstraction the topic is so nauseating to me that I do not want to deal with it, let alone when you attempt to concretize it.
 
 
Fungus of Consciousness
03:52 / 20.03.08
So you've never been in the situation where you've been seeing a date and things became "physical" for the first time after a few drinks?

If not, fair enough. I have. I make no apology for it. She's now my wife. Hopefully she won't get onto Barbelith and find out I'm actually a rapist.
 
 
Fungus of Consciousness
03:58 / 20.03.08
So if it's only that "the topic is so nauseating to me that I do not want to deal with it" then why was it necessary to call me a "fucking shithead"?

As I said, if you are asserting that I'm somehow advocating getting women drink for the express purpose of persuading them to have sex with me you're wrong. Can you prove otherwise? If not, get off my back! It's really unfair and uncalled for.
 
  

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