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Glenn Close But No Cigar
23:17 / 04.12.07
By all means. Either that, or dik-measuring-gate.
 
 
Tsuga
23:39 / 04.12.07
I don't like equations of arguments, no matter how inane, into:
a. catfights
b. dick-size contests
c: the like

I'm sure you're miffed at the way this has gone, Glenn, but keep it cool.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
23:47 / 04.12.07
Mordant, when I posted about your massive power issues a while back, I did so in jest, assuming (perhaps wrongly) that almost everybody on the board would read it as 'of course Mordant doesn't have massive power issues - while she is a vigourous and indeed at times rigourously questioning presence here, she is at heart benign and A VERY GOOD PERSON to have about the place'.

B-but... almost everybody on the board thinks that about Haus, too, and you have massive issues with him, don't you Glenn?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
23:53 / 04.12.07
Ah. IT WAS A JOKE!!!

Righty.

Truth to tell, I'm not doing much for the board at the moment - I'm exhausted and depressed, in part because of fuckery like this. I owe the place at least a post on Damien Hirst, a thread on Portal, a Switchboard thread comparing Putin and Chavez, and a Lab thread on Kyoto on the occasion of Australia's joining, but gathering the will to live, much less post, is tricky at the moment.
 
 
Papess
00:00 / 05.12.07
Really, Glenn?
 
 
grant
02:22 / 05.12.07
Putin and Chavez?

I'd like to hear that one.

Annoyed that I'm not.

Can I get you an espresso?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
11:21 / 05.12.07
Mordant, when I posted about your massive power issues a while back, I did so in jest

You know what? I don't believe you (anymore than I believe those bloody LoTSW pix weren't intended as a windup). The reason? I don't believe you because for MONTHS now I haven't been able to post in the Policy, or in this thread, without either you or AG popping up to have a go. You've been consistently making the board a slightly nastier place for me to be, stating not with MPIgate, but back in May with the shenannigans surrounding DeDI's ban thread. I'm not sure what I did to earn your disapproval, but you haven't half been getting on my pecs.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
11:23 / 05.12.07
grant: if you're going for coffee can you get me a dry cappuchino and a donut? Ta.
 
 
grant
14:53 / 05.12.07
Beignet OK?
 
 
HCE
14:58 / 05.12.07
If there are going to be beignets, could I have a chicory coffee? I'll get the next round.
 
 
This Sunday
21:17 / 06.12.07
I'm barbannoyed by the fact it's nearly impossible to get handed a cup of chicory-laced coffee through Barbelith, right up out of the interwebby sequence o' tubes.

Also, excuses of the I was only funning or I was just blowing of steam/I'm not really mad at you sort of semi-retractions. The latter seems a little more honest, both may - in fact - be honest, but regardless, the post these appear in response to/explication of are almost universally examples of just being an ass.

Admit to being an ass. If you feel it was justified, run with it.

If I post something sharp and snarky, please, if I try to back out by claiming I'm not being a deliberate ass, jump all over me.
 
 
HCE
20:09 / 07.12.07
And beignets. Don't forget the beignets.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
19:24 / 08.12.07
Apparently, it's my turn to be Captain Obvious in the Film forum. Sigh.
 
 
*
02:21 / 09.12.07
I'm barbannoyed by the fact it's nearly impossible to get handed a cup of chicory-laced coffee through Barbelith, right up out of the interwebby sequence o' tubes.

If Tom doesn't fix this right quick I swear I'm LEAVING.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
10:22 / 10.12.07
Perhaps we could scuttle the Head Shop and let it sink, in the manner of the French Navy?
 
 
Closed for Business Time
10:46 / 10.12.07
Aye aye captain... WTF is up with these two clowns infinitus and 331whateverthefuck?
 
 
Evil Scientist
10:50 / 10.12.07
3110700101, basically. Do I need to go into detail?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
10:54 / 10.12.07
Nobody is innocent.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:03 / 10.12.07
Strasbourg is aflame.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
11:04 / 10.12.07
At least 311wtf is making a slight effort at playing the game called dialogue. Can't say the same for infinitus.
 
 
petunia
11:12 / 10.12.07
I don't know what you just said Nolte because I didn't read it. But you're wrong and a snob to boot.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
11:19 / 10.12.07
Yeah? But he lives in Sweden, so I win!
 
 
Blake Head
11:20 / 10.12.07
Just on that snob thing, am I missing something or was there a sneaky little use of the quick edit function there?

Not really good form if so.
 
 
petunia
11:23 / 10.12.07
Yes. Sneaky indeed.

But ze's working class.

You Snob.

Etc
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:27 / 10.12.07
Oh FFS. No, Blake Head, infinitus put a moderation request through and I (and others) approved it. I don't think it's ever been a problem for people to decide to put edits in to expand and make more reasonable their posts, if done within a short period of time.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:31 / 10.12.07
Or in this case make less reasonable, but the principle is much the same.

FFS, here, of course standing for For Foch's Sake.
 
 
Blake Head
11:34 / 10.12.07
Oh. Ok then.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
11:35 / 10.12.07
Watched a lot of History Channel this weekend, darling Haus?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:42 / 10.12.07
I don't get the History Channel. In broadcast terms, rather than conceptually.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
11:43 / 10.12.07
They say UKTV is much the same.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:59 / 10.12.07
They say a lot of things, Nolte.

Barring for a moment that there seems to have been an act of forgetting here that Infinitus on evolution was in the Switchboard, not the Head Shop, I'm not entirely sure why infinitus' first post deserves such a kicking, in particular:

Infinitus, I must say that your heart is probably in the right place. But do be more careful in your phrasing.
Thanks for sharing. Practice makes perfect!


Really, da fug? In particular given that the theories of evolution that are being discussed are already inexactly mapped from biology to sociology. When a poitician - somebody operating in the social rather than biological sphere - talks about "evolution, not revolution", does he or she mean that they are going to see what random adaptations survive and advance the species of, say, health care? Generally not - evolution here means, surely, progress in a series of incremental and non-disruptive steps, with revolution - a dramatic overturning of existing principles and processes in favour of an entirely new model - standing as antithesis. "Evolution" has an existing and acknowledged meaning in corporate and social discourse - one may not agree with it, but it does exist.

Since the thread is about social change rather than biological evolution, I'm not totally convinced that the initial dismissal of infinitus was justified, nor that his subsequent bristling was entirely inexplicable, whether or not well-advised. He is probably going to be too defensive now to get much sense out of, and not entirely without reason.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
12:19 / 10.12.07
I'll concede that my initial reaction was slightly unfair to infinitus, and that I might have been unduly harsh.

However, if you look closely at his post he seems to be muddling the waters by using phrases such as Evolution suggests a movement forward, to something better or more adapted - adapted for collectiv human life, in this case. which to me suggests that his usage of evolution is meant to cover both the biological and the social, in which case he is wrong. Had he been bothered to specify that he was using the term in it's social meaning only I wouldn't have disagreed.

I believe this reading is supported by his reply to my reply;

His initial paragraph - I have no idea what all those fancy words mean (because I didn't bother reading them), but my perception of evolution is still that the best adapted organisms survive to form new species, that whole survival of the fittest thing. In that sense it does indeed seem to be about taking the "best" parts of what exists and making something new and better adapted from it. again suggests to me that he is conflating the biological sense of evolution with its social/organisational sense.

And of course when he says that he couldn't be bothered. Well, it doesn't exactly make me inclined to treat him kindly.

That said, I should do much better. Less snark, more tolerance and charity. It's soon Xmas and all..
 
 
Closed for Business Time
12:32 / 10.12.07
Looking back over the Revolutionary Mechanics thread it seems I was guilty of using evolutionary in its social-corporate sense in the first place, long before infinitus, saying Else I'm probably with petunia that most of the important, long-term and deep-reaching changes happen in an evolutionary and not a revolutionary fashion. Though that brings up a lot of questions, many definitionary:

So yeah, I'll take some of the blame for that malaise.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:33 / 10.12.07
Had he been bothered to specify that he was using the term in it's social meaning only I wouldn't have disagreed.

Ah - so, you mean that if he had specified in a thread previously dedicated entirely to discussion of society and social matters that he was not randomly delivering a disquisition on the evolution through generational selection of biological organisms, he would have been OK? There has to be a more convincing defence than that, Nolte. I was actually wondering if I had missed something important, so utterly random was your put-down, but really? That's it?

I agree entirely that claiming not to have read your definition of evolution was not the most mature response, but was it a reaction out of a blue sky? No, I don't think it was.

There's certainly no obligation to be nice to the new bugs, but if one is going to monster them I would appreciate a better basis for doing so.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
12:37 / 10.12.07
See my previous reply, Haus. I accept your charges.
 
  

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