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Mysterious Transfer Student
05:38 / 28.02.08
Oh shit!

[+] [-] Spoiler for #162

Fucking fantastic episode. More later.
 
 
Jestocost
06:50 / 28.02.08
162 answers one question I haven't ever been deranged enough to ask myself: what would Dilbert's Pointy Haired Boss look like as a hollow?
 
 
Seth
16:10 / 28.02.08
Is it wrong for me to fancy Ulquiorra?

Yeah, that was great. Loli and Menoli's bullying was nasty, Ulquiorra is my hero, Ichigo is fucked, Ishida to the rescue, snotty Nel is awesome and Szayel has just fucked himself by turning the rule of the Conservation of Ninjitsu against himself. Plus Grimmjow comes back at exactly the wrong time for Ichigo next week!

Ukitate is a pushover. But then he was up against Soi Fong, and I think he's enough like his best mate to want to get naked for a couple of HOTT girls.
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
17:33 / 28.02.08
Is it wrong for me to fancy Ulquiorra?

Emphatically not, since with No. 4's ripped alabaster torso on full display and nicely counterpointed with Ichigo's sinewy battle-scarred samurai god frontin' after he got his bankai outfit torn up, Bleach is delivering more fan-service than we've seen since Matsumoto changed out of her school uniform. Rawr.
The Ichi/Ulqi battle was a lot shorter than I'd anticipated, and once again we got to see Kubo's trick of unexpectedly revealing the characters' thoughts and motivations only to undercut them: we've never seen any evidence that Ichigo was thinking in detail about who he'd have to fight and when, beyond his unwillingness to go all out against Dordonii, so it was a surprise to see he, as we were meant to, had pigeonholed Ulquiorra as the top Espada all along. Naturally, having brought this up explicitly for the first time the story couldn't be expected to simply let Ichigo skip a bunch of levels, and so it was inevitable that he'd get his ass handed to him. Which, by the way, was really rather disturbing, with Nel's awful silence as they fled and the freaky transmigration of Ichigo's dissipating reiatsu to Orihime... if that's what actually happened.

Renji's fight with SAG was great too, with the balance of power continuously seesawing between the combatants as Renji, just the way we love him, repels sneaky artifice and underhanded technique with effort and guts (and a nifty use of his shikai - that 'cage' move was awesome for the .5 seconds it was effective). Of course, I'm out of my seat with excitement for the unprecedented team up of Renji and Ishida - on whom the smug twart Szayel Aporro has no bleedin' data since he didn't have any powers for the entire period between Aizen's exit from Soul Society and the abduction of Inoue. Megane vs. Megane Combat!

he was up against Soi Fong

You're doing it on purpose now. *twang*
 
 
Seth
18:22 / 28.02.08
Ishida's also got more tricks up his sleeve than any of the other four who 'snuck' into Hueco Mundo (they really didn't sneak).

I'm wondering... if the Arrancar have synchronised their reiatsu whether Ichigo's Vaizard reiatsu (which Ulquiorra said is similar) is piggybacking on the back of that technique, which is what we saw this episode. That was one of the more chilling aspects of the last episode, that she found out about Rukia at exactly the same time as the rest of the Arrancar, implying that she is being treated as one of them and is synchronised with the rest of them. Speculation innit.
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
18:43 / 28.02.08
Hmm. Related to that, Ulquiorra's evident shock at Ichigo's masked form - for some reason I find the line "It's exactly like ours!" thrilling - means that he has no idea that such a thing as a Vaizard even exists. Yet they're a known (if rare) phenomenon among the Shinigami... do you suppose Aizen is keeping his underlings in the dark about the full possibilities of their powers? After all, his goal in researching the Hougyoku is to become the ultimate version of what Ichigo already is; he wouldn't want there to be any possibility of one of his creations outevolving him.

Not that I expect this question to be answered any time soon with the hundreds of other plot elements the series has got in the hopper. But speculating is fun.
 
 
Seth
05:29 / 29.02.08
At present the only Shinigami who definitely know about the Vaizard are Urahara and Isshin. We can make a safe bet that Yoruichi knows too. Rukia has seen them, including the scene in which she watches Shinji in action, but doesn't know what they are. Byakuya has seen Ichigo's freakout but his reaction seemed to display that he had no idea exactly what he was witnessing. No other Shinigami - Renji included - has displayed any knowledge of them at all. At the moment we can only assume that Soul Society in general is as in the dark about them as the Arrancar seem to be.

Congratulations on post 600 dude.
 
 
Triplets
17:35 / 05.03.08
Nice episode.

A bit disappointed that we see Renji use a rare bit of cunning with his Shikai razor-ball only to have it brushed off as no big thing.

So, on the snakes and ladders board of power Ichigo is far below Ulquiorra, who is No. 4. We could also argue that he's not even up to beating Grimmjow yet as he had his arse handed to him by a non-Resurrectioned Jaegerjaques. Sooo... on the board we have Strawberry, so far at a comparative No. 7, or possibly even 8. Maybe. I have the feeling that Ichigo, not having any of Rukia's psychological weak-points, would have wiped the floor with Aaroneiro. So that puts him at around No. 7.5 on the Espada Richter Scale.

No. 7.5. This doesn't even include Aizen, Tousen or Captain Smiley who are, presumably, ranked between 0 (Aizen) and 1-3 on the scale.

As we've seen from the beginning Ichigo responds to a lack of power by just generating even more gigapower after an appropriate Character Moment. It's a question of when but I'm actually wondering how. If you'll allow me to get my mental sausage out for a moment... Ichigo's tapped into his hollow side, which is apparently exactly the same type of spiritual power as an Arrancar. One fan theory I've read was that he'll learn how to cast off his hollow/vaizard mask and seal it into a second zanpakutou for even more badassly power.

Aaand... I'm spent.

But, before any of this happens I wonder if, perhaps, the theme of this arc is learning to fall back on your allies, something Ichigo didn't do in the Rescue chapters and cemented as a major idea with the Hueco Mundo 5 making that huge group oath before they split up. Seperated from the support of Soul Society and in the land of devils all they have now is each other; something being hammered home by their relative weakness alone (which, with them all so far coming up against someone who can exploit their flaws makes me wonder even more how much Aizen is setting things up).

Also, Ichigo, at some point, is going to have to face a Bankai'd Vaizard Aizen. How fucking scary will that be?
 
 
Seth
12:42 / 06.03.08
163 is considerably toned down from the comics, but it's the first time that I don't really mind a reduced level of violence (seeing women kicked about in such a vicious manner = not Seth's cuppa). Szayel at least appears to have been shot through the heart (the arrow lands much further up) Orihime gets the shit kicked out of her at the hands of Loly and Menoly (black eye, bloodied up), the former of which has her leg either broken or torn off at the hands of Grimmjow, the latter of which is... well... killed outright using exactly the same close range Cero he used on Luppi. In the anime it isn't nearly so clear as you only see the healing in silhouette, but in the comic it's much more graphic. At least half her head and most of her torso is blown off in the blast. There is no way she could have survived.

Which leaves us with one hell of a difficult narrative problem that I mentioned quite a while back upthread. It seems Orihime's powers extend to raising the dead, which is no more of a problem for her phenomenon rejection than just healing someone. Inoue now exists as probably the purest example of a potential reset button that I've encountered in popular fiction, which makes life extremely difficult for Kubo. Now that we know the full extent of what she can do he has to limit her, either psychologically, by removing her powers, or by placing her in a situation in which she cannot take action. If she is left to run around unchecked she can use her abilities to undo any narrative tension or sense of risk.

He must know this. How he handles it will prove his strength as a writer. I loved that her first action was to heal the two vile bullies who kicked the shit out of her, though. That's exactly what Orihime would do.

So, what's Grimmjow's agenda? I wonder whether it involves healing Ichigo, with the intention of either beating the tar out of him or trying to use him against Aizen...
 
 
Seth
12:50 / 06.03.08
Amazing moment when Loly sees Orihime healing Menolly. Grimmjow has just murdered one woman, tortured another and bullied a third into assisting him. Loly has sadistically bullied Orihime, whose non-violent response only provokes a worse beating. Menolly has been the coward, standing at the sidelines and allowing her friend to do it all while holding back herself. And in all of this, Orihime in an act of selfless compassion for her enemy, placing their pain in priority over her own, is the one who is the 'monster.' It's not Inoue's intention, but Loly is left utterly humiliated and defeated by the encounter. Brilliant.

Even better in the comic, in which the entire chapter is entitled 'Monster.' That the monster turns out to be Orihime is a stunning summation of how the Arrancar must view this kind hearted, self-sacrificing, iron-willed healer.
 
 
Seth
13:13 / 06.03.08
so far coming up against someone who can exploit their flaws makes me wonder even more how much Aizen is setting things up

I wonder about this... exactly who has engineered these encounters. We saw Gin playing with the passages in Las Noches, rerouting the five invaders... and I'm not exactly sure that Ichimaru Gin is really a bad guy. Speculation-wise he may well be either a double agent or working for Urahara.

We've never seen him do anything irredeemably evil, beyond what would be demanded of an undercover agent. He isn't really involved in the manipulation of Hinamori, that was Aizen. When he targeted her with Shunso he may well have sensed that his old friend Matsumoto was on her way and trusted her to be able to block his strike. He spared Ichigo et al at the gate, and while the stated aim was to allow them eventual entry into the Court in order to sow confusion it could easily also be read as an ambiguity of allegiance, especially considering he repeats the action on the execution ground by allowing Ichigo through to save Renji. We are told that he is thoroughly evil but we've never really seen it demonstrated.

So if he was setting up these encounters, consider how he might have set them up to save the invading force by pitching them against enemies who apparently can draw upon their weaknesses. Nnoitra, who is in many ways the Kenpachi of the Arrancar, gets tired of Chad the moment he has beaten him, as though killing someone so beneath him would actually humiliate him in some manner. Arroneiro is far too cocky when he tortures Rukia, assuming that he knows everything about her and letting her get far too close, half dead though she is. Ulquiorra certainly seems to many viewers/readers to be in love with Inoue. If he followed her when she said goodbye to Ichigo then he knows she's in love with him, which would tend to indicate that he left Ichigo alive because Ichigo's living humiliation is worth more to him than his death. Szayel is exactly the kind of sadist who would use his reiatsu-canceller to toy with Renji, giving Gin time to get Ishida to the scene via reroutes (who has already been partially analysed by the Exequias who killed Cirucci). If Gin is indeed a hidden ally then he's doing an exceptional job by appearing to pit each of our heroes against someone who would seem to be the worst possible opponent but who either won't deliver a killing blow or who can have the psychological tables turned on them in their complacency.

There is more going on here than meets the eye.
 
 
Red Concrete
17:12 / 06.03.08
We've never seen him do anything irredeemably evil

There is a moment when he is really vicious and manipulative with Rukia, as she was being led to her execution way back when. I can't remember how the anime handled that.

That aside, it is hard to dislike someone who smiles so much. Maybe he's meant to be sinister, but I've a soft spot for him. Have we been given a hint of his motivation for rebelling?

His first (?) appearance was to drag Kenpachi away from provoking Byakuya in a light-hearted moment, iirc .
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
21:32 / 06.03.08
Gin? In it for fucks and giggles. This is my position.

There is a moment when he is really vicious and manipulative with Rukia, as she was being led to her execution way back when. I can't remember how the anime handled that.

It was handled very well, and rates as a defining moment of characterisation for both Gin and Rukia i.m.o. - I wrote about it earlier here. Thinking about it, Rukia's revulsion for Ichimaru on a personal, visceral level has really coloured our understanding of his character ever since that time. Seth's notion of Gin as an extremely sophisticated double agent is something that never occurred to me, which might just go to show that Kubo has crafted for us the vulpine personification of slippery eeevil as a cast-iron cover for sabotage (something that Urahara would certainly have been able to orchestrate if he had a hand in it). Once again, the relationships between Las Noches' top three are key - is it, as it appears, Aizen + Ichimaru with Tousen as deluded yet useful patsy, or do each of the three of them have a slightly different agenda that we're not privy to? Once we see the fallout from this week's ugly business with Orihime, maybe we'll get another clue.

On that subject, I'm surprised and relieved that Grimmjow's slaughter spree was toned down - it doesn't matter where it appears or how it's treated, I've never yet been convinced that fictional violence against female characters can be depicted in an 'acceptable' manner. For all that, it's slightly easier to deal with when meted out by such a character as Grimmjow, who despite his likeable, rebellious image remains an unrepentant murdering thug and bully, than by a good-guy character like Ishida - whose fight with Thunderwitch a few weeks ago, in which he managed to humiliate and destroy her in no uncertain terms, seems to have left a bad taste in my mouth ever since.

I wanted to get to the bottom of this, since despite his being one of my favourite characters, it seems I have to admit that I don't actually like Uryuu Ishida very much - after all, he's extremely self-impressed with his own abilities, aloof, arrogant, has a great gift for one-upmanship and tends to win through cold pragmatism, strategy and technical trickery rather than determination and fighting spirit. All of which makes him hard to root for, no matter that his battle with Mayuri Kurotsuchi - in which he broke all of the above conditions and laid everything on the line for his family honour - remains one of Bleach's greatest moments. Just as with his rival, Uryuu's character makes perfect sense once we get to know his old man - apples never fall far from the tree in anime, it's an iron law - and Ryuuken's chilly manipulativeness and drive for perfection have made his only son a crusader for righteousness who also happens to be a bit of a prick. At the same time, one of my favourite elements of Uryuu's character is the odd, knightly attitude he adopts around women - Orihime Inoue, Nemu Kurotsuchi and, from the Bount arc, Yoshino are all female characters with whom he has a paladin-like relationship that's played for various dramatic, comic or (arguably) quasi-romantic ends - and so seeing him beat down in his calculating fashion on Cirucci Thunderwitch, a proud outcast and underdog whose strength is the only self-identity she has, doesn't look good.

tl;dr: Only girls should fight other girls - that's why we need people like Yoruichi.
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
21:36 / 06.03.08
Series developments! Episode #167 will be the last manga adaptation for a while. It's back to Soul Society for a filler story dealing with changes in the top ranks and several new characters, one of whom will be in charge of Third Division. Preview picture, details and discussion. Fucknose how, or whether, this'll be integrated into the canon material. They are Kubo's own designs and so hopefully will be less uninspired than the filler characters of the past.
 
 
Red Concrete
00:12 / 07.03.08
Interesting.. Like I said at some past point, I see the anime as canon. This causes a number of problems to vanish from my fairly shallow understanding of the universe.

The manga is aesthetically nicer though - Tite Kubo's lines are so nice, compared with the anime. Has anyone noticed the quality drop just a smidge lately?
 
 
Red Concrete
00:17 / 07.03.08
Re: Gin; yes, it was your fucks and giggles theory, which I was recalling and which I think is probably true.

...or do each of the three of them have a slightly different agenda that we're not privy to?

There is the possibility that all three of them together have some agenda that we are not privy to. Remember the baddies of the Soul Society arc turned out (mostly) to be well meaning, at least.
 
 
Seth
00:51 / 07.03.08
There is a moment when he is really vicious and manipulative with Rukia, as she was being led to her execution way back when. I can't remember how the anime handled that.

Yeah, but what exactly does he do? He shatters her resolve to die, reignites her hope for a second and gives her the will to live. That he then turns it around and tells her he's kidding could be to preserve his cover as an apparently sadistic manipulator, but she's still left with wanting to live. The reason she's agonised about it is that she can see no way that she can be saved from execution and no way for her friends to survive, but Gin - if he's working for Urahara and knows everything that he knows - may well know that she has a chance.

I think that being a double agent is a very real possibility and that his cover is just extremely good. The 'in it for a laugh' theory is also compelling, so both are about even as possibilities in my estimation.

The new filler arc could well be a long one. It doesn't fill me with hope, but then recent filler has had me surprised. I have absolutely no idea how it will fit in with continuity, so this may be the first elseworlds style episodic filler since the Sealed Sword Frenzy. We'll see how it plays out.
 
 
Razor Wind
21:56 / 08.03.08
It's back to Soul Society for a filler story dealing with changes in the top ranks and several new characters, one of whom will be in charge of Third Division.

I've already resolved to treat the anime as an alternate continuity,so this is fine. I just wonder who the Little Bad will be; you've got to have a reason for a fight in shonen,because you've got to have a fight. :P
You never know,this might become canon in the manga later on.
 
 
_pin
22:23 / 10.03.08
Aaaaaaaaand I'm all caught up.

Soul Society filler sounds interesting, largely because I'd like to see more made of the fact that it's built on the bones of their dead.

I remain excited by the idea of a finale that sees them (fuck knows who will make up "them" by then) short-circuit the soul particle eco-system that sees Hollows slaughtered by Shinigami, who are also perfectly happy to do the same to Quincy when the challenge this set-up. We have no objective proof of what the negative consequences of Hollow spirit particles not entering The Great Chain of Soul Society, after all...

That they've befriended Arrancarr (not Hollows, as someone said above- they're still crazy idiots, no? It's only upon mask-breaking that they become befriendable), the continued ambiguity over Tousen's motives and the negative light much of the Soul Society is painted in, and the gang of rebellious teenage friends we're clearly here to adore, I can't see where else this will go.

The other exciting thing about Soul Society filler is that, back at the start of the SS arc, there was an impression that it's R&D department, the medics, the ninja spies group, etc., were all possible roles Shinigami could have, along with their quad allegiances. This, obviously, never came to pass, but maybe they'll go made an include some cross-cutting loyalties in this arc. Lord knows there must be a secret cartel of genuine, conservative, power in there, because all the captains we have a fucking dumb.

(Not, obv.! But still... )
 
 
Seth
11:42 / 13.03.08
164 is ace again, with Renji and Ishida's tactics nicely showing off the huge differences in their personality: cold, tactical, and gadget reliant vs brave/stupid, self sacrificing and utterly bad-ass. You can probably tell of which I'm more appreciative. Ishida pulls yet another trick out of his sleeve, yet another thing that we didn't know he could do, but it's Renji's twisted grin and reliance on simply using what we already know he can do in brand new ways that's the real kick. Great Renji moment.

But wow... Orihime and Ichigo reunited! Grimmjow vs Ulquiorra! Szayel's gotta get changed! No annoying voiceover on the recap! How much can they squeeze in before we hit that bizarrely inserted filler?
 
 
Seth
16:28 / 14.03.08
Of particular note for me on a second viewing with Jack the Bodiless is Ulquiorra's possibly unconscious affectation of inflicting wounds on *prey* that specifically interest him in the same location as his own, ahem, hole. There's a lot contained in Grimmjow's disclosure; the possibility that each Hollow's hole is positioned in a manner of psychological significance for them; the reference back to early Hollows in the series as similar to serial killers (in one case certainly being a serial killer), with their own distinctive modus operandi and ritual significance in their kills; the subtle implication that Grimmjow may find this practise slightly distasteful in that it is something that he himself does not do; the faintly queasy suggestion that Ulquiorra, a character hitherto seen as cold, calm, composed and conscious of all his actions might be subject to dark psychological imperatives that are beyond his comprehension; and the animalistic hunter/killer connotations contained in the word *prey* that might account for many of the ways in which the Arrancar have been seen to behave.

While Bleach unwinds over a relaxed timescale, it's these kinds of sequences that remind us how much information on character and motivation can be packed into such a small scene. It's a fantastic piece of compressed writing, giving us information on two characters, their relationship to each other, their relationship with their victims and tidbits that encourage speculation on the show's mythos. Bleach has so far resisted showing us any character's previous life, besides one Hollow's admission that he used to be a serial killer that targeted women and that he continued to do this after his reincarnation. We know that there are a couple of ways in which people become Hollows, and it rather makes you wonder how the various Arrancar ended up in their current state.
 
 
Triplets
14:22 / 17.03.08
That was an excellent episode.

More mirroring with the Rescue arc, specifically with the beginning. Ichigo comes up against an implacable foe who dispatches him with shocking ease (hello, Byakukya!) and then disables/injures him in one of his spiritual power centres (remember that Byakuya had Ichigo's borrowed Shinigamity taken away) and now Ulquiorra appears to have (forgive me) ripped Ichigo a new Hollow hole.

I believe the term "prey" might be being unconsciously used by Grimmjow himself here. He's a very predatory, alpha male-aspiring character (look at how he wanted his rank back from Luppi). Even his Hollow mask suggests a carnivore, and he wants Ichigo in his prime so he can prove his back should be more silver.

As nothing is ever exactly what it seems in Bleach it makes me wonder about Ulquiorra's motivation to do what he's done to Ichigo. He clearly has interest in Orihime beyond being a captive, which is confirmed by what he's done to Ichigo. He knows Ichigo and Orihime have an incredible bond to each other. Is this something he's jealous of and wants out of the way (he tells Ichigo to either die or leave), or something he's conflicted about in the same way as Byakuya?

Can Ulquiorra love someone in love with someone else. Is he a Barbeloid?

Also, Orihime can't reject Ichigo's Hollow hole. Because of a limitation we'd all been unaware of... or because Ichigo has had a Hollow hole since being reactivated by Urahara and she's just not reversing far back enough? Or that he's always had one, in the same way he's always been a potential shinigami?

In terms of her relationship, Orihime doesn't know about Strawberry's inner sexybadness and now we're in Hollowood this is her first hint that he's getting some of his power from elsewhere; that, at the core, Ichigo comes from similar stock as her captors and abusers.

"His reiatsu is exactly like ours!"

I was going to write a nice segue into this but for the life of me the words won't come. My theory is that Ulquiorra has fully opened up Ichigo's hollow hole in order to fully power him up in the long run. He already has a fully-powered Shinigami-side with his bankai and now the Saddest Clown is giving him a leg up. So he can defeat Aizen? Protect Orihime? Eventually fight Ulquiorra on an even footing to prove his love?
 
 
Seth
16:36 / 17.03.08
Nice speculation.

There's also the possibility that she can only reverse the effects of what is bought about by the natural order, effectively the work of *God* or whatever Bleach has sitting in its place. This might be why Aizen is confident that she cannot fully fully reject the Hogyoku. If the combination of Hollow and Shinigami is intended to give him a leg up to defeat the King then this might all fit.

There's also the possibility that she cannot reject it because Ichigo does not want her to, that he has already chosen to bond with it. The reiatsu she is feeling may be his holding onto the wound. We've already seen his reiatsu do a lot of stuff that's fairly unprecedented. If this is the case then his mask might stick around a lot longer next time it's called upon.
 
 
Triplets
17:52 / 17.03.08
If the combination of Hollow and Shinigami is intended to give him a leg up to defeat the King then this might all fit.

Funny, I've always assumed that the King was absent or dead. The idea that Aizen might be pumping himself up to fight him hadn't occured to me.

The reiatsu she is feeling may be his holding onto the wound.

I'm almost certain this is the case anyway. It's possible that his reiatsu only has a Hollow flavour when he puts the mask on, which Orihime hasn't experienced yet. To her it might feel like a foreign reiatsu.

But, yeah, whether this is something forced on him/being accepted by him/or a combination of same is something to chew on.

Question: ages ago, when Ichigo was fighting Hollow Ichigo for control in the sideways skyscraper mindscape did either one of them have a Hollow hole?
 
 
Seth
18:13 / 17.03.08
Neither of them had a visible hole, no. And none of the Vaizard have yet been shown to have holes either. When the Vaizard were pushing Ichigo to defeat his Hollow self I can't recall whether that version of him had a hole either.
 
 
Triplets
19:11 / 17.03.08
I've just imagesearched and, indeed, he does. So we know he's got the capacity to go full Hollow in him.

Humm, so this is either a temporary ailment that will keep him out of the Jabberjaw vs Ulquiorra fight (in the same way that Goku from Dragonball Z was sometimes given a bad case of something to keep him out of action) or it's the start of Ichigo's development going down another unexpected path. My guess is it'll be used as the former only to be revealed to be the latter.

I realise I'm incredibly biased because of my own "Ichigo will become an Arrancar" fan theory.
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
00:41 / 20.03.08
There's certainly a weird subtheme of eating and predation all the way through the depictions of Hollow, ever since Inoue's brother first got forcibly Hollow-ized back in episode three, that's now being expressed more openly as we finally get characterisations of Hollows in their most evolved - i.e. most humanlike, psychologically three-dimensional and capable of carrying dramatic development - forms, the Espada. Hueco Mundo has the feel of a deep-sea stratum inhabited by grotesques eating each other in the pitch dark and developing ever more bizarre and elaborate methods of predation and self-protection, so the top-layer predators can be expected to be the strangest and most sophisticated of all. The lower-numbered Espada all have devouring and parasitic behaviour as part of their MO, what with Yammy's mass-murdering 'Soul Suck' attack, Aaroneiro's career advancement through cannibalism and Szayel Aporro's habit of snacking on his subordinates for a power-up in dire situations (shades of Excel Saga's Menchi, the team dog/emergency food supply). With the likes of Ulquiorra and Grimmjow - it's not been spelled out, but probably only these higher Espada are Vasto Lorde with those below being Adjucha or Gillian - we can expect to see more advanced types of predation, shading in, as mentioned above, to the ritualistic and psychologically resonant practices of human murderers. I don't expect it to be delved into in canon - the series prefers not to ponder the earlier lives of its afterworldly characters, a decision no doubt to keep things simple that I think was wisely made - but the implication is that the most powerful Hollows used to be some of the worst human beings there were.

Ichigo and co really are facing the worst threat of their careers, in that while Soul Society contains a great variety of unpleasant, ruthless, eccentric and uncaring characters to cross swords with, Las Noches is teeming with utterly brutal killers. If Seth's theory about Gin pulling the strings to keep them from meeting even nastier fates than they have already is accurate, the silver fox is a saviour. Go Gin!
 
 
madfigs #32, now with wasabi
03:32 / 20.03.08
IMPORTANT 165 WARNING: Don't watch the preview segment for the next episode if you're not caught up on the manga. There's a pretty massive spoiler that will be much better if you don't know about it! You should jump ahead to 23:31 (in the Dattebayo release at least) for the omake segment.

Next episode isn't out until April 9th though, boo!
 
 
ORA ORA ORA ORAAAA!!
04:22 / 20.03.08
Interesting to see, in terms of El Directo's idea that Grimmjow thinks he's above hole-punching people in the same place his hole is - when there's the flashback to him punching a hole in Rukia (his words), he uses exactly the same strike as Ulquiorra, except aimed at her stomach, where his hole is...
 
 
Seth
05:38 / 20.03.08
Interesting... either Grimmjow is deliberately saying that Ulquiorra is no different from him, despite the way The Saddest Clown in the World tends to act, or Grimmjow is as blind to his own MO as his superior. More evidence for Transfers statement that the implication is that the most powerful Hollows used to be some of the worst human beings there were.

By the way, great post Transfer.

So now we've got a fight with two ticking clocks. First of all we have Ichigo's eleven second deadline, which simply has to be longer now to enable him to fight Grimmjow effectively. Second we have Ulquiorra's escape from wherever Grimmjow has sealed him.

Orihime is the first of Ichigo's friends to see what he really is. What on earth is she going to make of his Vaizard form?

Great Shinigami Cup Golden. Matsumoto has overreached herself.
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
21:28 / 20.03.08
BLEACH TOO HOT FOR TV!




This is something like what get-togethers at Seth's place occasionally turn into, incidentally.
 
 
Seth
22:42 / 21.03.08
What they always turn into.

Don't be coy: you loved sleeping with three quarters of Naked Lodge and one Boo.
 
 
Razor Wind
01:19 / 22.03.08
Best Shinigami Cup yet.
 
 
Triplets
23:17 / 26.03.08
Random thought based on the early readings of this thread: the Arrancar gain their abilities by sealing their power inside their swords, yes? What does Ichigo's bankai do? Compresses his power into his now under-sized sword, which increases his strength and speed, much like an Arrancar... It's an incredibly weird bankai for a Shinigami to have. Check Byakuya's disgust when he first sees it, he can't believe it's a real bankai. There might be more about this that hasn't been revealed but Kubo was surely linking Ichigo to the Arrancar way before they appeared.
 
 
Mysterious Transfer Student
17:46 / 27.03.08
What's that weak sucking sound? Why, it's the sound of a Thursday without a new episode of Bleach.



If you're suffering you could always take up my recommendation in the Primer thread to watch Gintama, which is my new favourite other show and has a lead character as awesome as Kaien Shiba and Shunsui Kyouraku put together, if you can imagine such a thing.

Just so it looks as if I'm paying some form of attention to what other people say in this thread, Triplets' last comment makes me speculate that what with the gradual drawing together of previously inseparable and irreconcilable opposites in the shape of the Vizards/Arrancar in general and Ichigo in particular, the Big Theme of Bleach seems to be getting the status quo used to the idea that what seems unnatural and despicable is actually essential and good. Which seems like a nice, Barbelith-friendly sort of idea.
 
  

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