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Big Brother 2006

 
  

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Ganesh
20:35 / 07.06.06
Didn't Richard also express distrust in Grace? She was one of his nominees this week, wasn't she?
 
 
Smoothly
20:38 / 07.06.06
That's true. Although Richard's patronage is a bit of a poisoned chalice given the depth of people's distrust of him.
 
 
Ganesh
20:45 / 07.06.06
I hope more people start listening to - ideally soliciting - his views.

I certainly wish he'd do something with his views, other than express them articulately in the Diary Room then return to onlooking. Maybe he's assessed the situation and decided that any attempt to communicate to Lisa et al What's Really Going On can only make the situation worse, or maybe it wouldn't occur to him to talk about any of this stuff unless specifically asked. I'm not sure that anybody will, though; it's that Family Dog thing again.
 
 
Lama glama
20:50 / 07.06.06
Glyn received my support tonight with his "I'm-cooking-an-egg-for-the-very-first-time" song. Imogen, now free of Sezer is starting to endear herself to me for the first time in ages. My opinions on the housemates this year are so prone to changing, almost as much as the housemates' opinions on each other.

At the start, I thought that Lea, Lisa and Richard were the bee's knees. Now, because of Lea and Lisa's complete lack of awareness of the Lady Grace's true, spiteful nature and Lisa's laugh, (which I thought was cute at first but now makes me want to throw the cat in a liquidiser just to drown out the noise of her voiceless dust echoes) I want them both out sharpish.

Glyn should speak Welsh with Imogen more often. That was the first conversation he seems to have had with another housemate that didn't revolve entirely around how amazing and otherworldly Lea's breasts are (though that conversational staple did pop up).

And finally, Pete seems to become better looking the longer I'm watching the show. There's a strange androgyny to his facial qualities which I'm beginning to find very appealing. Ditto Glyn.
 
 
Lama glama
20:51 / 07.06.06
I don't mean strange as in odd, but rather as in an unexpected way. Should have clarified.
 
 
Smoothly
21:59 / 07.06.06
He looks good, I think, but I find his vogueing increasingly irritating. Not really his fault, I know, but he reminds of me Phil Cornwell doing Mick Jagger in Stella Street. He looks like he bounced out of a Gorillaz video. It's a bit tiring.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
22:30 / 07.06.06
Y'know, I actually think Nikki's more family dog than Pete. Watch the way she moves... she follows people, wanting conversation or other types of acknowledgement... whenever it looks like important stuff may be happening, she HAS TO BE THERE. That's totally dog behaviour. Pete's more like a cat.

Again being self-contradictory, I should point out I really don't trust cats. At all.
 
 
Smoothly
22:38 / 07.06.06
Sam's the only one with a dog's unconditional devotion. And Pete's not judgemental enough to be a cat.

In one sense Nikki might look like she has an old head on young shoulders, but she's just a toddler psychologically. It's curiosity that motivates that behaviour I think. Although I suppose there is something puppyish about that.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
22:41 / 07.06.06
It's curiosity that motivates that behaviour I think. Although I suppose there is something puppyish about that.

That's probably what I'm thinking of. (Living with a puppy tend to make me read puppyish behaviour into everything...)

Someone really needs to, just every now and then, y'know, not being mean or anything, just yell "NO!!!" at Nikki. She won't learn otherwise.

And she really must learn to shit in the garden.
 
 
Ganesh
22:49 / 07.06.06
Nikki expresses opinions, though, has strops, blows up, makes up... gets involved. She's an opinionated presence in the House. Pete, by contrast, is a "lovely guy" who's stroked and petted and loved by all for his entertaining barks, bouts of tail-wagging boisterousness and silently comforting nuzzling of one's leg when one is unhappy.

One wouldn't try too hard to have a conversation with the Family Dog (it'd be a bit one-sided) and, sweet-natured as he might be, one wouldn't generally fancy him - not in that way. And one certainly wouldn't expect him to do much to earn his keep.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
22:54 / 07.06.06
Nikki expresses opinions, though, has strops, blows up, makes up... gets involved

You've never had a puppy, have you?
 
 
Ganesh
23:02 / 07.06.06
You've never had a puppy, have you?

I have, actually, and it didn't enunciate its alphabet terribly well.
 
 
Ganesh
23:06 / 07.06.06
Sam's the only one with a dog's unconditional devotion.

Ah, but is Sam a bitch?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:11 / 07.06.06
I have, actually, and it didn't enunciate its alphabet terribly well.

Yeah, but I bet ze had opinions, strops and all the rest of it...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:16 / 07.06.06
Sam's the only one with a dog's unconditional devotion.

It's not unconditional devotion though, is it? It's transitory alliance- Sam may not actually stir up hatred, but she seems quite willing to go along with it to get the immediate acceptance fix. I'd say loyalty was a dog trait- I don't see much of that in Sam.
 
 
Smoothly
23:23 / 07.06.06
Yeah, you're right I'm sure. I originally meant the family dog thing in a functional sense. More about the role he plays / position he enjoys within the household rather than anything particular cainine about him.
 
 
Smoothly
23:39 / 07.06.06
What's this new room Imogen and Lea are in?
 
 
Lama glama
23:40 / 07.06.06
Is it wrong to like..nay, love Nikki? I know that she's a fundamentally bad person in many respects, but when she uses phrases like "I'm in the wrong frame of mood" with conviction, how can one not love her?
 
 
Smoothly
23:44 / 07.06.06
I'm with you, Llama. I'll be gutted if she goes on Friday. I don't think she's a fundamentally bad person, though. What do you mean?
 
 
Shrug
23:47 / 07.06.06
I like her and all but I wouldn't wipe my arse with her if I had some toilet paper to hand. (Huh-haaa).
She's definitely going to have alot of good best bits.
I wish I was more up in arms against her "Man-beast" commentary. I'm just not, though. Am I just finding transphobia less of a faux pas than homophobia (which I'm sure I'd hate her for immediately)?

Then again, perhaps it's because I regard her as an unblameable woman child who's a bit deficient in cognitive thought and thereby not responsible for her bigotries. Eh, anyway I'm having trouble reconcilling why I don't passionately hate her.
 
 
Lama glama
23:49 / 07.06.06
Maybe "fundamentally" was a bit strong and poorly chosen, but she has said and done some things that are pretty dire. She called Sam a man-beast or somesuch in a fit of rage, for one. And, er..yeah..that's all that really comes to mind right now.

My love of Nikki doesn't extend to wanting her to win, though. I just want her to last until the final week, hopefully allowing her to add a few more achievements to that sadly sparse section of her CV.
 
 
Lama glama
23:56 / 07.06.06
There's something that I've noticed Lea doing a lot lately that has further increased my dislike of her. Whenever she and Richard are having a conversation and, say, Richard doesn't understand something she says, or he says something that Lea might dislike she almost instantly makes some joke along the lines of: "Is this because you're gay?" or, "don't you understand me because you're a big queen." Has anybody else noticed her tendency to do this?

Another reason for my increasing Nikki love is because she reminds me of a religion teacher I used to have, in body and some facial contortions only. It's so bizarre to watch bizarro religious education teacher nightly and the novelty hasn't worn off yet.
 
 
Smoothly
23:58 / 07.06.06
Thing is, I really don't think Nikki understands what transgender is. 'Beast' and 'It' are expressions she's used before - about Grace for instance.
The man-beast thing was not her finest moment, but I think there is some room for mitigation.
 
 
Ganesh
05:36 / 08.06.06
Yeah, but I bet ze had opinions, strops and all the rest of it...

Not opinions, no. I could've ascribed emotional states to it based on my interpretation of its behaviour but it didn't actually explicitly state opinions - hence the comparison with Pete.
 
 
Ganesh
09:23 / 08.06.06
Thing is, I really don't think Nikki understands what transgender is.

No, she doesn't (and Sam's hardly the best 101 example) - and, from the "she fancies us all, she's a man, she must do" she seems not to understand homosexuality either. Which is a bit odd.

I agree, essentially, that she's the eternal toddler. The fact of her having had an eating disorder might chime with the anorexia-nervosa-as-fear-of-growing-up theory.
 
 
Ganesh
09:28 / 08.06.06
And the hate goes on...
 
 
■
09:34 / 08.06.06
[Head/desk]
I've just noticed the next thing I have to work on today compares BB with LOTF. Can we get some new writers, FFS?
[Is crying inside]
 
 
Ganesh
09:45 / 08.06.06
OMG!1! RICHARD = BEAST ON THE MOUNTAIN!! GRACE = JACK!!1 LISA = ROGER11! IT'S JUST LIKE L*RD *F TH* FL**S!1!23!!!!
 
 
Smoothly
09:45 / 08.06.06
No, she doesn't (and Sam's hardly the best 101 example) - and, from the "she fancies us all, she's a man, she must do" she seems not to understand homosexuality either. Which is a bit odd.

I don’t think she understands homosexuality as it relates to Sam, certainly. But I feel kinda forgiving about that. It’s why I felt more willing than some to cut her some slack on her pitying “You will have to go for gay men, you do know that don’t you?” comment. She’s baffled by the whole thing – and none of it is obvious to her. Richard had explained that he (her tamplate gay man) didn’t fancy Sam because he “fancies men”, so the idea that Sam is only in the market for gay men (like Richard) is probably quite brane-melty for her.

She seems to approach most things in pretty binary terms, and without a fairly complex and nuanced discussion about sex, gender and sexuality (which I imagine few would have an appetite or the patience for), she’s going to struggle. A little knowledge being a dangerous thing, and all that.
 
 
Ganesh
09:52 / 08.06.06
But I feel kinda forgiving about that. It’s why I felt more willing than some to cut her some slack...

With me, I can't really get into the bit of condemning/forgiving Nikki. It's as if she's a child or, yes, a baby animal. There's so little of the adult in her, and she's so amusing in her childish rages and sulks that I find it impossible to comment on her actions the way I would with other, grown-up Housemates.
 
 
Peach Pie
09:59 / 08.06.06
I love Nikki dearly but it's a guilty, guilty love...
 
 
Smoothly
09:59 / 08.06.06
She is good at venting this stuff though. Her “I’d raahther Wipe my Arse on Toilet Paper” rant genuinely seemed to reduce the pressure.

Although it did highlight one of the perennial contradictions exhibited by BB Housemates. For all their talk of “If I’ve got a problem with someone, I’ll come out and tell them to their face”, they always run to the diary room to say “I’ve got a good mind to go out there and tell everyone exactly what I think of them”.
 
 
Smoothly
10:14 / 08.06.06
OMG!1! RICHARD = BEAST ON THE MOUNTAIN!! GRACE = RALPH!!1 LISA = SIMON11! IT'S JUST LIKE L*RD *F TH* FL**S!1!23!!!!

The L*rd O* T*e Fl*es thing is sooo lazy and short-sighted. BB7 is clearly based on The Inheritors.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
11:21 / 08.06.06
Don't you mean The Importance of Being Earnest?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
11:23 / 08.06.06
Does this DS thread remind you of anyone?
 
  

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