Hey,
I think I ended up partly using the argument to get at some of the things that I think are wrong with the site, and that's why it went on for so long. Yeah, I went over the top with it myself and dragged it out too much, but after I'd spent about 2 hours messing around with posts and then woke up with a hangover to find that Ganesh had said that I was using sometype of argument, I felt that trying to be honest had just got me nowhere. I'd already apologized a few times about how I'd messed the post up, but then it looked like things had gotten worse. If I'd just left things after what Ganesh had said, then that would've maybe left me being seen as someone who didn't really care about what I was trying to explain.
It might not seem so serious, but if you were in the same position, and had apologized and tried to explain what you'd done wrong, wouldn't you think it was a little serious that it was starting to look like you could have problems with gay people? I take things like that seriously, that's all, especially with some people that post here being gay, and I'd hate for them to think that I had problems with them, and would easily prefer not to post if that was the case. Ganesh for example : I think he's cool, and have done ever since I first started posting here, so when I saw his post in the Barbannoy thread, it felt like everything I'd written must have seemed fake or something, and I was pretty gutted because I'd tried to explain my errors as much as I possibly could.
Maybe I can message him and ask what the problem was with how I'd tried to explain what I'd done wrong, or if he was basically just pissed off at my first post in the V thread, and anything that I'd written after that didn't matter.
Actually you took it to both Policy and Conversation, to loudly protest how you are DEFINITELY NOT ANTI-GAY, whilst steadfastly refusing to examine why your (and Felix's) posts might be problematic to some.
I did eventually examine my post and Felix's though, and I also apologized and explained why I'd wrote what I had done in the V thread, and that's what my problem was. It didn't seem enough that I'd already explained and apologized, and that's why I ended up here. As for ending up in Convo, I admit that I was pissed of with what you'd written, so I posted in the Barbannoy thread because I was annoyed, but hopefully that's been sorted out now.
Anyway, I guess I messed a big amount of that up, agreed, and sorry for dragging it out. I prefer to avoid all the drama, but right from when I first posted, I was more interested in the bigger picture of how people sometimes get unfairly treated with mistakes in their posts, but Felix managed to sort things out by the looks of it. My main problem was, and still is, what happens to people who can't explain things as well but have done things out of the same type of error, because it's something that I think can be a problem around here. I'm fine with accepting that I messed that up anyway, but I hope that one or two of the things I wrote in my last post further up (the bar being raised too high, for example.) can be understood a bit.
Finally, even though I have problems with some things around here, it doesn't mean that I want to carry on this discussion myself for ages, because I'm not sure how much I could help in this area. I'm basically happy that I've given my own view on it, and hope that some of it can be understood. The only reason I've carried this on is because I think that the main problem is related to the way that a lack of awareness in peoples posts can sometimes result in them getting judged/flamed/etc if they're not able to explain themselves as well as some people would want them to, basically meaning that some posters want people's mistakes explained to too high a standard, and it can really confuse and alienate the people who are trying to explain the problems, because they're not able to do it well enough for it to be accepted. Things appear to get over analyzed aswell, something that I'm equally guilty of here after thinking of how much I've written since friday. |
