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All-Star Superman

 
  

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andrewdrilon
18:26 / 04.08.08
Excited!!!
 
 
Triplets
22:05 / 11.08.08
Zurr-Enn-Arrh Smackbat and the Twelth ASS in the same month? Oh mamma.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
23:12 / 11.08.08
Maybe Batman will be on Batsmack in A*S12! 24-hour-super Batsmack.
 
 
Jamie Grant
20:10 / 12.08.08
Slight delay in order to get final pages of the story, art and colours just right. Hang about. While you wait, the soft cover for the first six is out to peruse and enjoy.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
22:52 / 12.08.08
*twitches out*
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
04:21 / 13.08.08
Jamie, have you heard whether or not there will be a 12 issue hardcover somewhere down the line? Not sure how far in advance they talk about that stuff.





Also, squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
 
 
Jamie Grant
19:48 / 22.08.08
Naturally they'll be a 12 issue collection, and 25% page size up than reg' titles so the esteemed editor suggested yesterday. The 6 issue book 2 I believe is set for January '09 - so don't expect it from Santa in your Giftmas stocking. All*Star Superman No.12 passed muster and went to press on Thursday 21 Aug so set your clocks!

That's it - all over, am done. See you.
 
 
■
20:23 / 22.08.08
meep!


/checks calendar
/notices January birthday
/starts preparing hints

/realises he must stop playing so much Warcrack
 
 
Aha! I am Klarion
00:59 / 16.09.08
http://comics.ign.com/articles/910/910266p1.html
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
02:53 / 16.09.08
Thursday--because I'm tied up with work on Wednesday--can not come soon enough. No previews til then. No furtive glances at this thread until then. I must be a good boy.
 
 
The Natural Way
13:51 / 16.09.08
I always wanted a good rationalisation for my childhood superman cars, and there it is!

Effortless.

The nerd is happy.
 
 
The Natural Way
14:01 / 16.09.08
Oh yeah, and you can literally hear the superman theme building as Jor-el finishes speaking.

Superman cheats death in 3 pages. Rock on Superman.
 
 
Mario
14:46 / 16.09.08
It's Super-Bodhisattva!
 
 
Aertho
18:08 / 16.09.08
Ok, since I was an X-phile at the time, and this might be a Surgery question: When Superman died in the 90s, how did he come back to life?

I understand that his body was buried in a vault, and that John Kent had a heart attack and "rescued" his son from Heaven, and subsequently the issue ended with 4 Supermen.

The original body became the Cyborg, Superboy was a clone, Steel was inspired, and Eradicator just kind of showed up.

And then the hero appears near the end with a mullet and a black supersuit. Wha? How?
 
 
Mario
18:20 / 16.09.08
The Cyborg wasn't his original body... he was an old villain, Hank Henshaw, in disguise. The Eradicator stole Supes' body and put it in a Kryptonian "regeneration matrix" in the Fortress to use as a sort of battery.

Hence, when Supes made it back to his body, he was weakened. He used a Kryptonian battlesuit (also from the Fortress) to make it to Coast City (the black costume was sort of an "operator's uniform"), and was eventually repowered by the Eradicator's sacrifice.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:21 / 17.09.08
#12 is out, and it's spectacular? Looking forward to reading it. Wow... the 12 issues are done. I assume that's a preview up above (the non-linky link). Perhaps I won't tease myself/spoil myself with the preview...
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
21:28 / 17.09.08
It's like staring into the sun -- and I'm only halfway done.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
22:37 / 17.09.08
It's pretty amazing, the last couple pages are the very epitome "Oh! Shit! So that's how it happened!" And the last page in particular raises some interesting geek possibilities.

This has been an utterly amazing ride and might stand as my all-time favorite GM tale.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
23:17 / 17.09.08
I find it intriguing that he's managed to match up his Superman and Batman takes so well.

This final chapter was a little front-heavy and then sputters a bit at the end, but I'm not sure how he could have satisified me.

Lots of Sun God stuff in this issue-- very Promethea, actually-- and Lex maybe sort of wins.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
23:41 / 17.09.08
Also, totally justifies Ziparrow's take on Lois/Clark.
 
 
Cowboy Scientist
01:02 / 18.09.08
Doesn't anybody get the impression that by the end, the Planet's staff all knew that Clark was Superman, but played along? They all went "Yeah, I knew that was Superman disgused as Clark..."
 
 
Mug Chum
01:53 / 18.09.08
(get spoilers all those who read)

Yeah, the longing and never-ending mutual chase seems key. But I actually thought there would be more of a solid culmination. Like, Lois still being Superwoman all along and helping Sups out. Both so fast they can be at many places at the same time, leading their normal zany (and secret) lives while some area in the back of their "selves" they're millions of Lois&Clark semi-outside-time in a big superhero poetry standing in for "tantric shags" fueling the heart of a sun that super-up mankind or something. But the golden fucker as a cosmic heartsurgeon "rowing" the machinery... Yes!

I didn't really put much faith in the idea of Superman in a gun-toting hero scenario, but it was so ridiculously well done (the whole scene really - the subtlety in showing Jimmy trying to wake Clark up; the sheer kinetic bang! with Lex's hilarious "Ummf"; Sups behind the lead in this action movie way; the amazing x-ray etc). Quitely and Jamie just exploding the shit out the bar of what was already way too time-consuming in making you come back and just stare at the visuals and be gripped by the colours' buzz -- the truck on Lex, how the colours and lighting mesh in the x-ray page as a whole. That bright, clear, crisp, solid-but-fluid, shapes-get-well-defined-under-the-light breezy quality of the whole book...

Morrison's Lex is just too great for words ("what is it? what's this? i'm talking here!"). I was also expecting it to go in more deeply into Lex' super-senses' epiphanies ("I should be writing these"... awesome), but it hinted well enough in the light & casual manner of the series when Lex stares towards that thing Superman used to blink to (and we'll probably get more of that in Superman Beyond anyway). And damn, took me long enough to notice Nasty's helmet as a "bizarro mirror" Agatha's hair.

Much of "Krypton Thodol" left me basically just wondering. Only thing I got out of it was basic themes of surrender, baptism-by-fire, rebirth etc. But curious that this is while Clark is unconscious, when post-trip Lex is put out and has his head outside the frame while unconscious.

And there's something beautifully poetic in the notion of that entire ending scene happening in front of cameras and microphones amidst the haze -- maybe I'm just seeping my too-strong love for the notion of "mind the gap" reading that these stories are "apocryphal" in that Flex M./ ASS10 manner.

Lois holding the cape... Jesus, man. I don't remember Quitely ever portraying such heart-warming fragility so well.

I need a cigarette.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
02:56 / 18.09.08
There will be spoilers, yes.

Ziparrow, yeah, Lois holds the super-cape! Having both given birth to the sun-god with love (made me think of the blanket to hold a baby in, her stance as a midwife's, maybe, and of course his cape was a blanket at one point), and seen off the Superchrist, holding his Cape of Turin.

The radio-consciouness opening smacks entirely of "For the Man Who Has Everything," but we all know Morrison feels the need to reference every Moore story ever at some point -- but he's done it before, and I liked the (one presumes, possibly maybe) callback to the JLA dream sequence of Kal on Krypton as a Green Lantern from Morrison's "Return of the Key" story. That said, it's a beautiful sequence on the Quitely/Grant side of things, beautiful in much the same way the opening to the Bizarro two-parter was beautiful, and was the most downright symbolic with all the Kabbalistic gold-and-ashes talk. Lois needs to write herself into Promethea and then they need some serious solar honeymoon (heh) time.

Dude, I totally think that the Planet staff know (at least Jimmy does), and I love that even in the face of Lex Luthor having super-powers they're pretty much non-plussed by him. "Oh, yeah, kill us with your eyes, Mister Luthor. Right."

Actually, on reread I'm inordinately happy that they actually followed through and I got my chance to see the Daily Planet versus Lex Luthor!

I love Nasthalthia Luthor, particularly proclaiming "Science Year Zero!" She gets all the great lines. "Uncle Lex! You're literally embarassing me beyond all therapy with this behaviour!" Oh, Nasty.

I try not to think about the parallel between this story and a certain Authority arc that Quitely happened to draw which also involved a madman being defeated by stolen super-empathy.

I truly suspect that on some level, Lex wins in this chapter -- which might be why he achieves that closure Leo "I Thought I'd Have a Bigger Role" Quintum talks about. Clark finally punches someone, punches Lex, outright, comes down to his level (and because of sun-sickness and potion half-life, they are of equal standing) and hits him outright, his endless hope runs out. Except that maybe Lex had it coming and Superman's got one more Labour to accomplish.

He falls, dies, finally-- and then he goes right back up. He is the sun, it's where he's from, and where he's going to.

Blue Sun! Blue Sun!

PLEASE TELL ME I CAN HAVE JIMMY OLSEN'S LIFE. As in: I try to be a little bit more like Jimmy every day. Jetpack! Jodhpurs!

Alternate S-shield for the episode is the 2-Shield. Brilliant reclaiming of the Bizarro cloning.

Gravity Gun stuff was a fun burst of creative Silver Age pseudoscience ("We just read the science news for the headlines!"). I like that we finally got a counterpoint to Clark being catty about Steve Lombard's pranks with Superman being catty about Luthor's stupid plans ("As a matter of fact, I had the whole thing paced out to end pretty much exactly like this." Meow!). Beauty.

The Unified Field Theory is still the core of the series, and we need to tease that monster out! Yes we do! Lois listened and reported with super-powers, whereas Luthor is all about working it out.

And of course MORE SUPERMAN COMING SOON!
 
 
SiliconDream
03:00 / 18.09.08
Doesn't anybody get the impression that by the end, the Planet's staff all knew that Clark was Superman, but played along? They all went "Yeah, I knew that was Superman disgused as Clark..."

Yep. They even keep a spare costume around for him! Adorable. And he's outright telling Cat he's the real Clark.

I think just the "core team" knows, though...or cares enough to notice, at least. Cat and Steve don't seem to get it, and I'm not sure Luthor ever figures it out. I like the idea that only the most ascended humans can see through the Clark-disguise, kind of like how Batman's scariness used to be ineffective against innocents.
 
 
Mug Chum
04:08 / 18.09.08
and I'm not sure Luthor ever figures it out

I thought he did. And it hits him like a truck (and is pretty great that it just goes without saying the flying driver is saved). Or maybe his "no" is flat out denial and the thoughts he finds so interesting he should be writing down is the notion of Clark as Superman. Would add for the higher quality "Lex isn't the brightest bulb" of the series.

Jetpack! Jodhpurs!

Really, how is that possible? They manage to make Jimmy Olsen the coolest guy (well, second to Quintum at times) on the cosmos (they should really start either quintumfying Olsen or be olsening Quintum).
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
05:05 / 18.09.08
This was amazing. Between ASS and Superman Beyond in 3D, Morrison has made me love Supes. Everything about this issue was perfect.

And I'm re-reading DC 1 Million right now to see how well it gels.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
05:07 / 18.09.08
I just love the Daily Planet crew in this one. "Nice, ah, disguise, Superman." Indeed, Mister Olsen. You're totally right, they all know -- except probably Steve, and maybe Cat. And in the same way they humour Clark, they do the same with Lexie, following dutifully behind Nasthalthia for their "trial," really just waiting for the threat level to wind down so Lois can get some facetime with her best guy.

Also, Quentin Quire sure looks cute in a Superman suit.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
08:55 / 18.09.08
My favorite bit was Supes' merciless verbal smackdown of Luthor.

"You could have saved the world YEARS ago if it mattered to you, Luthor."

I don't get that posted statement that Luthor in any way came out on top. That was an Obama-response-ad-about-Dishonor-level dis. More than any roundhouse, that sentence completely destroyed Lex Luthor.
 
 
Mario
09:56 / 18.09.08
It's interesting you should mention DC One Million. Because while all that talk about turning into gold could be metaphorical, there's also this guy
 
 
Cowboy Scientist
11:59 / 18.09.08
About people finding Superman's secret identity: I dunno, I don't think Lex realized that Clark is Superman; for all his intelligence, he's got a blind spot for that little fact (as we see in issue 5, where Lex looks at Clark without the glasses and doesn't realize that Clark = Superman). Lois had that blind spot too, that's why it was so hard for her to believe Clark when he revealed his secret identity to her, back in issue 2.
 
 
This Sunday
12:45 / 18.09.08
Some time ago, on this very board, I made the statement that you can't really cuddle up with someone and read a supertights comic together.

I could hit my past self with a copy of the inevitable oversized hardback total-collection of this series.

So YES! it's unbelievable. So cute. So optimistic. So cool.

Superman's snark, repositioned for a kinder, cooler futurespace of now! No trope left behind!

The Planet essentials, excepting Steve, totally know the score w/Supes. Yes. Maybe L-named folks just have blinders built into their names that make it hard to work out?

And, while I don't think Luthor won in any objective way, he won in his very personal little retrograde perspective. And, for Luthor, that's probably all that really matters. (Clearly, nobody else gives a fuck - poor bastard.)
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
13:43 / 18.09.08
Oh, I don't meant to imply that Lex won in any objective way, just that Clark actually hitting him -- after for the most part being a fairly non-punching hero for the majority of the series (excepting moments under the influence of, say, Black Kryptonite) might feed into Lex's assumptions about Superman and his motivation. Deculture's right on the money -- if in any small way Lex won, it's only from his perspective and has nothing to do with (a) anyone else or (b) reality.

It's just a playground tormentor managing to try his patience to point of hitting him back and some supersnark. Superman's patience is not infinite. Which is why I seem some parallels between Lex and Steve, to be honest.

I like that the opening scene comes down to the Ultrasphinx's riddle of the immovable object and unstoppable force again.
 
 
SiliconDream
14:36 / 18.09.08
Lois had that blind spot too, that's why it was so hard for her to believe Clark when he revealed his secret identity to her, back in issue 2.

Not really the same, though...Lois figured it out long ago and Superman was constantly scheming to make her doubt precisely that. Plus, after he finally revealed himself, she was under the influence of Strange Mists That Make You Crazy Paranoidâ„¢.
 
 
Automatic
15:06 / 18.09.08
I knew it!

'All star' Superman indeed...
 
 
FinderWolf
16:09 / 18.09.08
Morrison gives a few of his favorite Superman moments ever, upon completing his All-Star run:

Mozzer's greatest Supes moments.

(although let's not forget the All-Star Superman Special that was promised, with various artists)
 
  

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