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Yotsuba & Benjamin!
17:40 / 28.01.07
See, it's odd that you'd say that, as they have, in recent weeks, seem to have "returned" to life (perhaps not even having been "dead" in the first place!).

The thing is, and this is weird, I'm trying to figure if there's something circumstantially different about how Chuckles died...and I can't...seem...to find one....

Let's see. Space battle. Airborne Mystery Explosion. Month-long bout with the last stages of lung cancer.

Hm. Hmmmm.

Tick tock, tick tock.

What. I wonder if there's. There's got to be.

*clicks tongue on roof of mouth three or four times*

*taps foot*

*paces*

I.

*clicks tongue on roof of mouth two more times*

I'm not 100% sure.
 
 
The Falcon
20:43 / 28.01.07
...passed on to a more peaceful place, never to return.

Much like Booster Gold and Animal Man

Or - spoilers! - the first Captain Marvel, from Marvel. It's hardly a problem (the problem being 'no gravitas whatsoever in death') whose locus originates in 52.
 
 
FinderWolf
16:21 / 30.01.07
Mark Waid had this tidbit to contribute, in an article at Comic Book Resources about Native American portrayals in comics...

>> Apparently Grant Morrison deserves all the credit for the reintroduction of Super-Chief. "I honestly don't remember in any of our conferences us ever using the word Super-Chief," Waid said. "And then the script came in, that one issue, and Grant wrote a great Super-Chief story, and boy were we surprised."

>> And Waid assured fans of the character that the story was not merely a one-off: "There's definitely a thread coming out of that, and we have not seen the last of the power stone."
 
 
Aha! I am Klarion
19:49 / 31.01.07
I know someone had to have mentioned this before, so don't give me points for an original thought...but is Doctor Fate's helment Skeets?
 
 
Mario
23:01 / 31.01.07
It's been suggested as such. Mainly because of the whole "floating gold sidekick" thing. That, and the simple fact that if Nabu is dead (as of Day of Vengeance) then who is talking to Ralph?
 
 
ciarconn
13:19 / 01.02.07
In 52 # 39, Sivana mentions that he bombarded Mister Mind (the catepillar enemy of Capt Marvel) with radiation of solified time... perhaps Skeets is now a ship for him...
 
 
FinderWolf
13:51 / 01.02.07
That's a great theory, esp. since in one interview a while back, one of the 52 writers said something like "What happened to Skeets? Why was he formerly 'good' and has now turned 'bad'? Is this new evil version indeed the real Skeets", etc. If Mr. Mind is putting the mind-control whammy on Skeets and using him to drive around in, that would be a pretty cool plot twist. And there is the Mr. Mind chrysalis that we saw earlier in the series...
 
 
rabideyemovement
15:01 / 01.02.07
So, Mr. Mind force-evolved by 52 seconds of artificial time and squeezed into the cockpit of a Skeetscraft could be the fourth horseman?
I don't believe there could be any real tie between Skeets and the Fate helmet.. If Ralph is going to get his wife back, then it probably will have something to do with the Multiverse. Can you picture Ralph kidnapping his wife from an alternate earth? Maybe even killing another Ralph to take his place?
Nah...
 
 
rabideyemovement
15:03 / 01.02.07
And what would Mr.Mind evolve into?
a giant colorful temporal butterfly?
 
 
sn00p
17:39 / 01.02.07
Can a single organism evolve technicaly?
 
 
sn00p
18:49 / 01.02.07
God i'm sorry, i'm such a nerd.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:05 / 01.02.07
a "giant colorful temporal butterfly" sounds very Morrisonian indeed.
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
08:06 / 02.02.07
The Question was going on about a butterfly when he died...
 
 
Mario
14:58 / 02.02.07
That was a reference to one of the early Denny O'Neill issues.
 
 
Triplets
16:27 / 02.02.07
OR WAS IT?!?!!?
 
 
SiliconDream
16:39 / 02.02.07
Can you picture Ralph kidnapping his wife from an alternate earth? Maybe even killing another Ralph to take his place?
Nah...

Actually, sure. Stripper-Sue Dibny from I Can't Believe It's Not the Justice League despised her Ralph and was positively pining to return with our version.

Hey, and then the spirit of our Sue could possess her when necessary/fun! Multiversal postmortem polyamory!
 
 
gridley
16:59 / 02.02.07
Actually, sure. Stripper-Sue Dibny from I Can't Believe It's Not the Justice League despised her Ralph and was positively pining to return with our version.

Hey, and then the spirit of our Sue could possess her when necessary/fun! Multiversal postmortem polyamory!

I would sooooo buy that comic.
 
 
rabideyemovement
19:52 / 02.02.07
oh that would be a great non-ending to that story!
 
 
rabideyemovement
00:45 / 03.02.07
BTW, i do believe that as the Question was dying he was rambling about the metamorphosis of a butterfly.
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
09:31 / 03.02.07
That was a reference to one of the early Denny O'Neill issues.

Happy Groundhog Day! (for yesterday)
 
 
Triplets
10:12 / 03.02.07
No, it's still Groundhog Day!


And you're Hitler!

  
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
10:56 / 03.02.07
GASP!!!!!
 
 
FinderWolf
21:27 / 07.02.07
Yeah, John Henry Irons!! You show Luthor who's boss!!!!

Chris Batista is one of my favorite 52 artists, possibly THE favorite.

Fun issue. Great cover, too.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
10:25 / 09.02.07
I thought that was quite possibly the worst comic I've read all year.
Totally devoid of anything interesting. A bog standard slugfest, and thoroughly dull conclusion to a terminally dull plotline. This bald fuckwit is not Lex Luthor.
And John Henry? Heat vision blast to thge face? Not a problem. Metal pole shoved through body, rupturing internal organs? Walk in the fucking park. Awful.
 
 
The Falcon
19:42 / 09.02.07
Correct again, MacReady. (Only wrong about Daredevil)

In fact the last two issues have been precisely what you had to expect given the hot spotlight on the worst bit of comicbook plotting, dialoguing and general storytelling I've seen since the halcyon days of... well, I dunno, probably some Loeb or Nicieza turd or other. Absolutely nothing about the Steel plot has been above dog-status, except maybe that bit where he hallucinated, which was - passable. It's the little things, you know; the whole reason Natasha rubbered her uncle on some bullshit misunderstanding, the twists from nowhere that cheat the reader or are alternatively mindnumbingly obvious (the Everyman reveal.)

I can only assume Geoff! Johns! is responsible. And I hate him for it, because there are perfectly good segments of the overall arc getting buried under this turgidity.
 
 
The Falcon
19:47 / 09.02.07
Furthermore! Poor reading of the Great Man's works, because Steel did not have his whole hand bitten off in World War III by the General, just his gauntlet. h, but it'll not be serious enough without bloodshed and allusions to it in every 6 pages.

And! Does Gar 'Beast Boy' Logan - of all characters - seriously call Luthor's security guards 'nancies' and say they'll 'sluggo' them? What does that even mean?! Surely this is a phrase only a 1940's Kentucky farmhand would conceivably use. Also! A callous crack at a dead body? I'm beginning to think GEOFFJOHNS!!!! doesn't even begin to understand this 'meaning of heroism' that he's so ardent about teaching us all. Shite.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
00:59 / 10.02.07
Yeah. Man does this comic lurch from being messily entertaining to tedious and inane. My heart plummets whenever Renee and Vic, The Ironses and often Black Adam and Co. take the meat of an issue up. Give me space fun with Animal Man and Giant cosmic heads, or Mad Scientist Island and I'm perfectly happy.
I do genearally dig 52, in it's free-wheeling tour of the nether-regions of the DCU, but it's a fucking frustrating read. If it didn't come out weekly I'd have jacked it in probably (but then I was weened on British weeklies - we're used to seeking gems amongst the turd).
 
 
Alex's Grandma
02:06 / 10.02.07
I'm beginning to think GEOFFJOHNS!!!! doesn't even begin to understand this 'meaning of heroism' that he's so ardent about teaching us all.

As far as I know, it wouldn't take a lot more than, say, $500 to ensure that GEOFFJOHNS!!!! never did much of anything, ever again.

This board is about more than than sleazy attempts to solicit funds for the (character, DC lawyers, character)assasination of well-loved comics creators, of course, but in this case, mightn't it be an idea to make an exception?
 
 
Mario
12:03 / 10.02.07
Johns isn't that bad. There are bigger writers out there I'd send the sanity ninjas after first.
 
 
gridley
14:36 / 10.02.07
And! Does Gar 'Beast Boy' Logan - of all characters - seriously call Luthor's security guards 'nancies' and say they'll 'sluggo' them? What does that even mean?! Surely this is a phrase only a 1940's Kentucky farmhand would conceivably use.

Nancy and Sluggo are characters from a long-running American comic strip. It's been running since the '20s.



Still kind of a lame line though.
 
 
murphy
17:08 / 11.02.07
Up until yesterday I hadn't been to a comics shop in about a month. Last night I read issues 37-40.

If I had been up to speed, I would have posted the following a month ago:

The last page to issue #37 was the greatest and most unforeseen moment in the whole of 52. Hooray! Yipee!

Thanks for your indulgence.
 
 
Sniv
17:57 / 11.02.07
Nancy and Sluggo are characters from a long-running American comic strip.

OMG! Teh multiverse!!1!23!!!
 
 
Uatu.is.watching
17:15 / 12.02.07
There's an interesting interview with Mark Waid over on IGN. He talks quite a bit about 52, and one of the things I find strange is this bit:

IGN Comics: In writing 52 you've had a huge hand in the overall direction of the DC Universe. Now that the series is nearing its end, how involved are you in the editorial or creative direction of the DCU?

Waid: Unfortunately, none of the 52 writers really are. It's kind of heartbreaking, because we were really hoping to have more of a chance to play with and help shape some of the stuff we set in motion. I think DC's goal was to keep our noses to the grindstone and get us to finish 52, which is fine, but I'm a little disappointed. We also had a bunch of ideas for spin-off books, or projects that could rise out of 52, or new characters that could rise out of what we've done, but DC didn't seem very interested. I don't know if that's because they're putting all their energy into the next weekly or what. It's a shame, but I can use the break.

That's kind of disappointing. Didn't Grant have a deal to develop a lot of his unused ideas for other writers to use? It would be a shame if The Atom and The Freedom Fighters were all that came out of that.
 
 
Spaniel
17:44 / 12.02.07
That is a little sad, but I'm getting ready for a B&B sexy dance so there is some recompense coming your way.
 
 
murphy
17:47 / 12.02.07
I just re-read JLA 1,000,000, and there’s a scene when the headnet narration/hyperlink box says that Steel’s armor survived to the 118th century.

But it sure looked destroyed in Week 40.

Boy, when Superboy punches the continuity wall, he doesn’t miss a beat, does he?
 
  

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