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Infinite Crisis

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Jack Denfeld

12:00 / 03.03.06

I like when Alex says that he can't quite figure out why the universes don't work without a Superman, but admits that even though he can't figure it out, the (DC) universe all starts with Superman.

FinderWolf

14:45 / 03.03.06

yes, I saw Overman too and was happy.

Ye Olde Supes' obsessed/distraught "Superman always saves Lois Lane" was appropriately freaky as drawn by Ordway...nice moment there.

thanks for the reminder about Zauriel, hadn't read the WWIII storyline in a long time.

smurph

15:45 / 03.03.06

Hi, I'm new here. I liked the bit where Alex Luthor mentioned Breach's alternate earth that would have been. It implied to me that back in the multiverse all universes were not the same age. Also seemed to imply that collapsing the multiverse stopped potential universes from being born.

Phex: Dorset Doom

21:51 / 03.03.06

Why does it say in the solitications that 'The mystics of every world and dimension seek help from the very spirit that is destroying them'? Do they mean, um, God?

Mario

22:22 / 03.03.06

I assume that line referred to the Spectre, and that subplot was cut.

FinderWolf

22:27 / 05.03.06

The people at my local shop (Midtown Comics in NYC) say that lots of people are just buying the Jim Lee covers and neglecting the George Perez covers of this....but with the exception of the "tons of DC character floating around in space" Perez cover and the "Power Girl looks at a million shards of glass with various DCU/Hypertime scenes in them," I've mostly preferred the Perez covers. Supes vs. Supes by Perez beats Jim Lee drawing the new Blue Beetle any day.

Jack Denfeld

23:57 / 05.03.06

Supes by Perez beats Jim Lee drawing the new Blue Beetle any day.
Hi five.

ONLY NICE THINGS

12:26 / 06.03.06

It's almost not worth asking, but is there any reason given elsewhere why Blue Beetle and Blue Beetle alone can see Brother Eye?

Haus of Mystery

13:03 / 06.03.06

So people buy his new comic. It's the time honoured tradition of making new or unpopular characters integral to 'major event' storylines to boost their appeal. See Chronos, Ressurrection Man and Chase in 1,000 000.

The Falcon

14:40 / 06.03.06

I think I've bought the exact opposite covers than you finder. Perez is so... dad.

tickspeak

14:44 / 06.03.06

Um, weren't Chronos, Chase, and Resurrection Man all cancelled with or soon after their 1,000,000 issues? Not much of a boost.

And, to be fair, Chronos and Resurrection Man were used really well in that story-they played integral roles because their powers/histories jibed with story needs.

Simplist

15:13 / 06.03.06

I assume that line referred to the Spectre, and that subplot was cut.

I think a lot of subplots were cut. I've noticed the solicitations haven't much resembled the contents of individual issues in this series ("a shocking confrontation between Batman and Nightwing", etc.).

Spaniel

15:21 / 06.03.06

Um, weren't Chronos, Chase, and Resurrection Man all cancelled with or soon after their 1,000,000 issues? Not much of a boost.

Doesn't really invalidate Mac's point though, does it? I mean, who amongst us thinks that DC isn't using 8C as a launching pad for new titles?

Benny the Ball

16:44 / 06.03.06

I thought it was a great issue, pointlessly grand, but great cosmic nonsense - worlds appearing, the little heroes trying to do their best, the picture of Superman old hitting superman young with the car from the cover of Action Comics was great. I'm still really enjoying it. It seems to have a semi-sensible notion behind its stupidity...

Mister Six, whom all the girls

17:19 / 06.03.06

So... I felt like I was missing a whole issue's worth of subplot.

Before I mini-rant, let me add my voice to the clamour for Jerry Ordway.

Anyhow... where did 'all the heroes'(referred to in Nightwing's two pages) go? Aside from the JSA who blipped over to Earth Two for half a page only to be forgotten... where is 'everyone' aside from church?

And who are they fighting?

Was there some info dump I missed? One moment Superboy is getting pounded into the Speedforce the next there's an off-panel established battle between... who? Alex isn't fighting anyone... the Antimonmitor machine is untouched... where's the fight?

I was very sick when I read it but... am I alone in this?

Aertho

17:26 / 06.03.06

I'd like a little more meta-nonsense injected into the story... like instead of Earth 2 Diana Prince being "empowered by her husband" to speak to Wonder Woman, she folds in from between panels because "the fans demanded it". Like her Olympus is really a part of Animal Man's Limbo or something. If "everything comes from Superman", then weird self-aware shit can fall out of the book and start building things.

I'm surprised how much I am enjoying 8C though.

This Sunday

19:30 / 06.03.06

Christ on a corndog! Anybody remember that statement from somebody at DC about how this would show the man inside/behind all the heroes? I joked about a tranny Wonder Woman, but, fuck me, I didn't expect they'd actually push a man-empowered Wonder Woman (which seems to entirely and utterly miss the entire Wonder Woman point) out into this series, didn't they? That's so wrong! And was the Superboy/Flash stuff filled in elsewhere, or did it just all happen between issues?
Nobody knows what's being done with this series until the issue's actually completed, I'm suspecting. Thus the disagreeing ad copy, the weird storytelling jumps and blips, et cetera.

FinderWolf

21:16 / 06.03.06

So far, the Superboy/Flash stuff has not been clarified at all, to my knowledge.

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

21:25 / 06.03.06

No it hasn't. I'm guessing, Flash Annual 2009, written by Damon Lindelhof & Yours Truly? I'm hoping Bachalo's Marvel Exclusive will be up by then.

Imaginary Mongoose Solutions

22:36 / 06.03.06

The expanded Superboy/Flash fight (up until Supers is chucked into the speed force) is in Teen Titans #32. Also the issue which brings the Doom Patrols of the past into continuity again.

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

22:39 / 06.03.06

But those of you who want to see what happened to Superboy while he was in the Speed Force will still have to wait until the industry catches up with me.

Mister Six, whom all the girls

11:50 / 07.03.06

... so it's not me then.

... crap.

Lama glama

12:03 / 08.03.06

Haus asked up-thread: It's almost not worth asking, but is there any reason given elsewhere why Blue Beetle and Blue Beetle alone can see Brother Eye?

Well, it makes nice thematic sense, doesn't it? Ted Kord was able to see the looming crisis during its infancy but was killed because nobody was paying very much attention to his theories. New Beetle can see Brother Eye because it makes a nice thematic connection to Kord, a sort of passing on of the torch. Of course, if you're looking for that crazy thing called internal logic, then I'm sure Johns will have cooked up something semi-satisfactory in the next exposition-tastic issue.

Mario

12:20 / 08.03.06

Here's an easy justification.

The Scarab is the first reliable magical artifact that exists in this new Tenth Age of Magic. And Brother Eye is shielded from all technological methods of detection.

Aertho

12:25 / 08.03.06

I went there as well. Magic trumps science. I suppose other things might be used to detect Brother Eye, but the Scarab is the one Booster's most familiar with... and the one Batman doesn't have contingencies against. I mean, did Ted ever use it?

Benny the Ball

15:49 / 08.03.06

No Ted never used it - in his book it got buried along with Dan Garratt before he could get to it, then I think Garratt re-animated and fought Kord, but after he defeated him, the scarab became inactive. I like the explaination.

The Prince of All Lies

16:24 / 08.03.06

My main problem with IC #5 is that though the sense of urgency is well established, we don't know what the heroes are doing... except for the Bludhaven situation, what is it they're dealing with? Earthquakes and shit? If that's the case, the relationship between those incidents and the main plot is tenuous at best. They should at least be fighting the Society..
But I guess we'll have to wait for the Villains United IC tie-in to see what Deathstroke and co. are doing.

rabideyemovement

14:47 / 09.03.06

The Bludhaven situation is that the Villains dropped Chemo, the walking bio-weapon out of a plane to explode over the city, hence the radioactive rubble it has become. It was Deathstroke's revenge on Nightwing for interfering in his daughter's villain-programming.

Robert B

18:49 / 24.03.06

Disclaimer:This may fit better elsewhere but since IC is related I'll post here.

Anyone else getting tired of Geoff Johns' stuff? IC is ultimately his baby, hence the post. I've enjoyed it so far but really isn't it just a big fan-fiction story? It's had some great moments but overall I'm bored. Also, don't get me started on Green Lantern. Issue 9 was decent but most of it has been horrible. Now there's Superman. I found it cliche.

Sorry for the Johns hating but I had to vent. It just seems as if DC handed a sizable chunk of it's creative real state to this guy and I'm trying to figure out why. He's written some decent stuff but I guess I find him a tad over rated at this point. Any thoughts?

Regrettable Juvenilia

20:47 / 24.03.06

Woah there sunshine! You're talking about GEOFF! JOHNS! The man who gave meaning to the hole in Power Girl's costume, and Hal Jordan's grey temple hair! He can bring anyone back. He can bring anyone back. He can bring anyone back. He can bring anyone back. He can bring anyone back. He can bring anyone back. He can bring anyone back. He can bring anyone back. He can bring anyone back. He can bring anyone back. He can bring anyone back. He can bring anyone back. He can bring anyone back. He can bring anyone back. He can bring anyone back.

FinderWolf

06:17 / 25.03.06

I am a bit tired of 5 issues of stuff happening to the heroes and the heroes just beginning to put the pieces together about what to do next. It seems like the heroes aren't DOING much of anything yet....seems a lot to cram in to the final 2 issues, but we'll see.

Triplets

02:29 / 26.03.06

Jesus, Flyboy. When did you become such a big G'eoff J'ohns fanboy?

FinderWolf

01:10 / 27.03.06

I thought it was pretty clear that Flyboy was being sarcastic. Unless your post is also sarcastic/faux-confused; then there are several layers at work here.

This Sunday

03:39 / 27.03.06

I hope that was a good oldfashioned sardonic post, but anybody want to try and extroll the megavirtues of Geoff J'onn Johns and predict how they can cram some sort of resolution and decisions into this mini?

Shiny: Well Over Thirty

03:58 / 27.03.06

I really think John's is a pretty decent writer, his Flash and JSA were largely good fun, but it's becoming increasingly clear that the guys bitten off way more than he can chew with 8C, the things just getting messier and messier as it goes on. Still 6 and 7 might be better as I guess with all the other books having gone OYL he's not going to be able to rely on them to fill the glaring gaps in the main series any more.

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