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Sibelian 2.0

17:10 / 10.04.07

"The Invisible Garden" *sounds* absolutely lovely and conjures up a host of fine, spooky images, but I'm straight away finding myself thinking "does it *have* to have the word 'Invisible' in it?" as it seems very likely to keep the site attracting exactly the sort of arsefishes that have apparently plagued it ever since it changed name from Nexus to Barbelith.

Sibelian 2.0

17:12 / 10.04.07

More on "the Garden Centre"

Music could become "the Rock Garden".

Um. tee hee

Glenn Close But No Cigar

17:17 / 10.04.07

Hmm, how about if one of the admissions criteria of the as-yet-unnamed board be that Grant Morrison may never, ever, be mentioned by name? To do so would result in an instant ban. Instead, we could call him, I dunno, bell hooks or something. That'd keep the fuckers out, and I love the idea of 'Proposal for a Group re:read of bell hooks' Zoids' type thread titles.

This Sunday

21:03 / 10.04.07

I'd imagine anyone googling the site for Morrison material would, at least once upon a time, have a lot more luck with 'Grunt' or 'Gir McPerson' or 'Grimmy Foxson' or whatever was chic to use to avoid invoking his name.

It hasn't seemed to put a dent in things, and yeah, comics being comics, the topics really are often going to involve discussion of Morrison. And y'all can't get rid of the Comics Forum. Well, you could, or Tom could, and I wouldn't have a lot to say about it, but, y'know, it'd displace so much.

Spaniel

06:35 / 11.04.07

I like "These Woods" and "The Garden Centre". The former's nicely mysterious and suggests that the space is to be explored and is probably in the business of exploring a not entirely knowable world. The Garden Centre is just funny and oblique and not at all po-faced or self important, which I think is a real risk when you start to consider names like "The Mind Garden" (okay as a forum name, perhaps), or - ick! - "The Invisible Garden". That one smacks of elitism, self-importance and doesn't move us far from the branding we're trying to escape from.

Ugh, I'm dreading the idea of putting Barbelith down, but I'm increasing sold on the idea and it makes me really sad. She's a handsome old girl despite her faults.

Sibelian 2.0

07:28 / 11.04.07

Policy could be "The Tool Shed".

Creation could be "the Hothouse" or "the Greenhouse" or even "the Compost Heap"!

Books... "the Winter Garden"?

Conversation could be "the Conservatory".

And because of Promethea my brain's telling me that comics should be "the Roof Garden".

Anyhow, yes. I like "the Garden Centre", too. T'would be fun. As a name, it's completely stripped of any baggage.

It *is* a shame that Barbelith seems to attract these folk trapped in weird dominance-infested mind-sets. If it's a name change of the community I don't see why it's any different from a ficsuit name-change? Although presumably it would take quite a bit of time to clear with everybody...

Regrettable Juvenilia

07:31 / 11.04.07

If 'The Garden Centre' is a serious possibility, why not just 'Ikea'?

Sibelian 2.0

07:36 / 11.04.07

They might get annoyed. And I spend too much time in Ikea as it is.

Disco is My Class War

07:37 / 11.04.07

Or Bunnings Warehouse.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

07:47 / 11.04.07

I'm having real difficulty seeing a downside to calling it Grant Morrison, Mark Millar, Warren Ellis and John Byrne Can Suck on My Sexy Sex Bits Whilst I Use My Khaos Majiykckckcks to Awaken the Sheeple! or Gummmwejbucsomssbwiumk-mas for short.

Jack Denfeld

08:56 / 11.04.07

Why not just a random number? Random numbers always sound cool, and never really go out of style. 18776739444

JOY NO WRY

08:58 / 11.04.07

Tip: Save time by hitting the return key instead of clicking on "search"

Your search - 18776739444 - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:
Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
Try different keywords.
Try more general keywords.

Neat. I say we take it before somebody else does.

This Sunday

09:06 / 11.04.07

I would post as www.18776739444.com, I would. I would be terminally out of luck if I forgot the number or lost a reminding e-mail directing me there, but it'd be cool while it lasted and I could probably coerce a search engine into giving it up using various names/words likely to show up on one page together only here.

But there'd still be Morrison-talk and such. Unless there's no comics.

This would be my annoying version of 'Won't anyone think about the children?'

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18:17 / 11.04.07

I'm annoyed that you're being dismissive of other people by calling them whiners. And whining while doing it. I like you better when you're sober.

Heh, yeah sorry dude, drunken blip.

19:38 / 11.04.07

Can we just call it {} or ø or something? Like /., but more nihilist?

19:40 / 11.04.07

(Te: Happens to everybody, no problem.)

penitentvandal

20:00 / 11.04.07

The only real solution to that may be to move everyone over to a new board, under a related kind of airquotes-brand-umbrella-airquotes, with Tom as a consultant/godfather rather than a hands-on-levers helmsman.

The trolls were created by man.

They rebelled. They devolved.

They look like humans. Some think they are human.

And they have a plan...a plan to insult people all over the shop and call anyone who complains 'politically correct.'

(cue ethnic music)

Barbestar Galactalith: 5823 posters, looking for a home...

...called...

...we're not sure yet, sorry.

I think These Woods sounds ace and spooky, though.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

20:02 / 11.04.07

STEVE.

I'm prepared to take part in acts of civil disobedience to get my way. Though I won't be blowing myself up. I'd be rubbish and would probably just lose a hand or something.

Olulabelle

20:45 / 11.04.07

I'm with Stoatie.

Spaniel

20:46 / 11.04.07

Steve is very good indeed.

[mortal combat]Excellent[/mortal combat]

Princess

20:50 / 11.04.07

I like Steve, however...

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

20:56 / 11.04.07

Oh, we could so take that guy.

Anyway, ours is gonna be STEVE in bold and capitals.

Or maybe an exclamation mark.

STEVE!

Or THREE!

STEVE!!!

Yeah, I like that last one.

Papess

21:00 / 11.04.07

Nimrod's Garden

Eloi Tsabaoth

21:09 / 11.04.07

Table of contents [showhide]
1 How do I join the STEVE!!! message board and wiki?
2 What is STEVE!!!?
2.1 Who is STEVE!!! for?
2.2 Where is STEVE!!! going?
2.3 Why the name "STEVE!!!"?
2.4 STEVE!!!

Olulabelle

21:12 / 11.04.07

I love STEVE!!! Closely followed by DAVE!!!

Alex's Grandma

21:18 / 11.04.07

Ok. So would anyone have any objection to Barbelith being called 'Steve's Lovely Garden' instead?

penitentvandal

21:46 / 11.04.07

I think we should at least consider calling it Planet Steve, in honour of Brendan Cleary's poem of the same name...

Ticker

00:34 / 12.04.07

Kind of sexist all these Steve type nominations dontcha think?

I mean Steve-ness really doesn't allow for many other kinds of gender manifestations. True in our hearts we want Steve to encompass all of humankind, to really wrap us up in a flannel hug of great goodness, but someone will get left out. It will most likely be a third grader from Idaho who in a fit of pique and angst will write us nasty posts about, oh, shutting down our connections to Steve-ness.

I urge you to consider the children.

00:43 / 12.04.07

Excuse me? Are you under the impression that there is something inherently gendered about Steveness? Isn't that, oh, I dunno, a little sexist of you?

This must be taken to Policy.

Alex's Grandma

01:23 / 12.04.07

'Planet Steve's Garden Of So-Called Real Ales', then?

Spaniel

06:52 / 12.04.07

A Real Live STEVE!

Nah

I'm caught up the elegance of STEVE!. Let's not gild the lilly.

Regrettable Juvenilia

07:08 / 12.04.07

Can we call it Joke's Course?

Princess

07:08 / 12.04.07

I think Grandma is on to something with "Steve's Lovely Garden". It could have flowers and ladybirds.