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Our Lady Has Left the Building

11:40 / 02.05.06

It looks as though it's been headed. And akira has been around for a while, so this may hopefully be one of those blips that a lot of us have, once in a while.

00:36 / 03.05.06

Could someone in the Games and Gameplay forum fix a link?

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24588#post582134

The link tries to go to http://www.galgiv2.com
instead of http://www.galciv2.com

00:39 / 03.05.06

request in.

22:43 / 03.05.06

Hi. Could a G&G crack team repurpose World Cup Draw into either 'World Cup' or, perhaps better still, 'World Cup 2006'. Danke schoen.

00:20 / 05.05.06

It does sound awful exciting, what with the ALLCAPS topic abstract, but we prolly don't need 2.

21:28 / 05.05.06

Could someone re-size the pictures I posted in the Von Mises' Apprentice thread? They represent a very early attempt at doing this, which I managed to fuck up ...

Ta.

22:43 / 05.05.06

The Crazy Science idea meets crytozoology thread in the Lab seems to me to have veered far away from the scientific and into the realm of wild speculation. Perhaps it should be moved over to the Temple at this point?

15:32 / 06.05.06

Because the Temple is the dumping ground for anything the rest of the board dismisses as *wild speculation?*

No thanks. Lab can keep it.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

17:23 / 06.05.06

Yeah, I'm going to resist any move to the Temple for pretty much those reasons. Mirror, if you thing that the thread has veered into wild speculation then maybe you should post that in thread and say why.

(I'm having lab guilt now. I know it's kind of my job to go in and rescue threads like this but increasingly I don't know where to start...)

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20:10 / 06.05.06

This thread in Head Shop is potentially valuable, but deals with personal experience and emotions and not theory, ideas, philosophy, identity, or politics. Thus I'm recommending it be moved to Conversation.

02:15 / 07.05.06

Because the Temple is the dumping ground for anything the rest of the board dismisses as *wild speculation?*

Oops. I didn't mean for it to sound quite like that, so I apologize to the Temple folks. Didn't mean to dump on you - and it just shows my ignorance of the Temple that I thought that the direction that this thread has gone might find a better welcome there.

I'll have a go at trying to rescue the thread, but like MC says, it's hard to know where to start.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

10:57 / 07.05.06

Part of the problem is that the 'Lith is simply not a pro-science space and it never has been. Ironically, I think that the biggest emphasis on empirical evidence and the scientific method is likely to be found in the Temple.

11:59 / 07.05.06

Hmmm. Your point about Barbelith not being pro-science is something I've noticed. Whether it's a reaction to the dominant nature of the scientific method in western society and Big Science's association with corporations or whether there's other deeper causes I don't know, but it's definitely there.

13:53 / 07.05.06

I think science just takes a little more study and knowledge than most barbelith members are willing to expend. A shame all round, really...

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15:43 / 07.05.06

I've been recruiting really sharp scientists to post here. Yami's one of my efforts (hi Yami!) in that direction, and I'm working on a fluid dynamicist with some really cool things to say about planetary science, but ze's yet to come around. Unfortunately, I think— and Yami, hit me if I'm speaking out of turn— the idea of having to put the 'lith through a debunk phase before actually getting to interesting scientific conversations is somewhat offputting. Lab right now doesn't appear to have room for talk about science, because it seems on the face of it that a thread on any scientific topic is likely to be overrun by "maybe it was ALIENS!!1!"ism. Which has its place, I'm sure, but if the Temple can be critical of people not applying sufficient self-criticism to their spooookymojo, shouldn't we expect the same of the Lab? And can we do that without making it a place where non-scientists don't feel comfortable posting?

Less searchable M0rd4nt

16:12 / 07.05.06

Hmm. I'm aware that I've dropped the ball WRT the Lab, since I'm still scientist-identified and one of the heavier board-users. I used to think of the Lab as being one of 'my' fora, one of the places I was heavily invested in and loved to hang out, but over time that's changed. I kind of don't feel comfortable posting there now because I feel like I'm going to be on the attack all the time if I do. Every time I go in the Lab now I am guaranteed to see a post or even a whole thread that actively gets my goat a bit by virtue of being poorly thought-out and badly researched, and it's really hard to challenge that kind of thinking again and again and again without that challenge being read as an attack on the posters concerned. Essentially, I don't feel like I can post in the Lab anymore without the risk of coming off as hostile and hypercritical, and right now I've had a bellyful of that.

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17:10 / 07.05.06

How about a metathread in Lab about the direction Lab should go?

13:22 / 08.05.06

Lab right now doesn't appear to have room for talk about science, because it seems on the face of it that a thread on any scientific topic is likely to be overrun by "maybe it was ALIENS!!1!"ism.

It is kind of tough to get Lab threads rolling without running into that. I think the Probiotics thread seems to be doing okay at the moment. The active posters have very different views, but we're keeping it relatively grounded in facts rather than supposition.

The Crazy Science idea meets crytozoology thread in the Lab seems to me to have veered far away from the scientific and into the realm of wild speculation. Perhaps it should be moved over to the Temple at this point?

No, definitely not. Just because it's in Lab it doesn't mean that it can't be wildly speculative. The thread is bouncing possible explanations around as to how such organisms could exist within the realms of known science. As such I feel it should stay right where it is.

if the Temple can be critical of people not applying sufficient self-criticism to their spooookymojo, shouldn't we expect the same of the Lab?

Abso-bloody-lutely we should. I also think that a meta-thread within Lab would be an extremely good idea.

13:26 / 08.05.06

I'd be prepared to kick one off by the way. I'd like to see Lab become a more active and friendly place for members, and I think we do need to find out what people want from it as a forum.

Spyder Todd 2008

17:02 / 08.05.06

Since I started the whole Cryptozoology thread, I thought I'd give my two cents here about it. I honestly started it because I wanted people to scrutinize it and poke holes into it. My science is not nearly as good as I wished it was, and I was hoping for people to point out what was wrong with my idea and possibly how aspects of it might be applied to other areas of science. And that’s happened, a little bit, but could probably the thread/idea could stand for more criticism. Did I do a good enough job trying to make that point across, or do I need to improve on that somehow?

17:35 / 08.05.06

One thing that puts me off starting more threads in the lab is the generally poor standard of science reporting in the popular media. While you can read a couple of newspapers and be informed enough to make a contribution to Switchboard, the same really isn't true of the Lab.

07:11 / 09.05.06

Lab Meta thread started here.

17:30 / 09.05.06

Thank god it's not just me. I thought it was becoming more sci-fi than science but like MC am hesitant to wade in trashing what everybody has said as obvious nonsense.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

05:48 / 10.05.06

Oddness. Using the crappy search function on the board gets you 0 responses for '101', yet it can find any thread with '2006' in the title. I'm just wondering if there's something we can do to make these threads easily locatable in the future.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

07:28 / 10.05.06

Yeah, I noticed that. I think at this point we have to seriously consider the possibility that the search function is just doing it to take the piss.

08:08 / 10.05.06

Well, you could always index them on a page in the wiki...

(That’s just a rough outline of what *could* become an SBR page - but if no-one wants it, we can always just delete the entire page again. Or rename the page to whatever everyone wants it to be called. But, just - if there’s any kind of move towards considering SBR threads, or ‘101' threads, as being slightly different to ususal Convo knockabout, then there’s maybe something could go in the FAQ about that, for example. Anyway, the wiki page is there now - y’all can add to it yourselves, or tell me what to add and I’ll do it for you)

15:25 / 10.05.06

That looks good to me, Bed Head, FWIW. As a way of making a ‘virtual forum’, that works even better than Haus’s suggestion of flagging threads in such a way as to create a search cluster.

As for the introduction, Whisky’s original thread probably says it all. A link to that, prefaced with something like ‘There has been some debate on Barbelith about introducing a Sex, Body, And Relationships forum:’ would probably do the trick.

And there are a few more threads started with the putative forum in mind.

Celibacy 101

And

Pansexuality/Multisexuality
Whatever ‘In Love’ Means
Mono, Poly, And Everything In Between

Those sprung to mind, but I’m sure there have been more since it was raised again. And there are other threads from over the years that would probably fit the criteria, and could be linked.

I’ve got nothing like as Barbelith time as I’d like at the moment (boo chiz etc), so if anyone (Bed?) wants to add those (and if any of the real veterans can think of some quality SBR-type threads from back in tha day), please do. Otherwise I’ll have a go as soon as I have more than 10 minutes to myself and I’m not fuck-it-up drunk.

09:26 / 11.05.06

Can a lab mod delete one of the double posts in the Colonisation thread please? I've volunteered to moderate there but it's not come through yet (I'm sure Tom's spies are researching my lifestyle like MI6 before it's authorised and I get my science-badge and ray-gun).

Regrettable Juvenilia

11:54 / 11.05.06

I wonder if, with an amendment to the title, this thread has now developed enough to go back into Games & Gameplay?

Our Lady Has Left the Building

13:36 / 11.05.06

Well, I'm certainly going to mod the title as there isn't the 'but it's about what the title is' defense this time...

13:42 / 11.05.06

Again, I'm confused. The relevant searchable stuff is in the abstract. If Alex's Grandma wants to give it an odd title, isn't that up to her?

13:42 / 11.05.06

Yeah, and it's pure convo material.

13:53 / 11.05.06

Thanks - I don't like looking at that title, but I was loath to say so because I know I am squeamish. (Ooh, actually, that made me wonder whether I was silencing my reaction because I felt it was 'too girly for Barbelith'* - maybe there's a legitimate complaint about 'locker-room' language in titles?)

*Not to suggest that girls can't, don't, and/or shouldn't wield squick-making sexual language with the best of them, of course. Just that I perceived this reaction in myself and wondered about it.

14:02 / 11.05.06

Deva, what squicks, and in what way is it a girly squick? Do I misunderstand what ‘bob in hard’ means? Is it terribly offensive?

ONLY NICE THINGS

15:46 / 11.05.06

I read it as like bobbing for apples...

Oh God, I've gone blind.

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