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Morrison's All-Star Superman

 
  

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STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:16 / 06.10.05
Just wait till J*hn B*rne finds our what gets said about him... when nobody's even taking the piss.

I'm investing in a bunker and some Pot Noodles.
 
 
Ganesh
12:16 / 06.10.05
Mmm. Possibly a large but somewhat point-missing robot...
 
 
Spatula Clarke
12:31 / 06.10.05
That was like when a skyscraper-size Godzilla is stamping across the city but then a massive robot turns up and makes the monster look tiny.

And promptly manages to trip over its own feet.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
12:34 / 06.10.05
Wouldn't that mean we'd all be crushed? Metaphorically, like.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
12:36 / 06.10.05
Yeah. By disappointment.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:36 / 06.10.05
Would it be funnier, or less funny, d'you think, had it been the real Mark Millar and a fake George M?
 
 
bio k9
12:38 / 06.10.05
I bet Millar yells at someone in his forum two months from now.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
12:38 / 06.10.05
Yeah. By disappointment.

That really depends on how much you expected in the first place.
 
 
Ganesh
12:43 / 06.10.05
I expected swingball. I'm crushed.
 
 
_Boboss
12:49 / 06.10.05
Just wait till J*hn B*rne finds our what gets said about him... when nobody's even taking the piss.

I'm investing in a bunker and some Pot Noodles.


Yeees, see i’m torn between emailing this whole golden affaire to fanboy rampage, and being a bit scared that highlighting it might prompt a fair chunk of largebeard wrath to fall on our dear parish... what to do readers? YOU decide!
 
 
diz
12:59 / 06.10.05
I expected swingball. I'm crushed.

Maybe he'll come back, and we can make smores, paint each other's toenails, have a pillow fight, and practice kissing.

Yeees, see i’m torn between emailing this whole golden affaire to fanboy rampage, and being a bit scared that highlighting it might prompt a fair chunk of largebeard wrath to fall on our dear parish... what to do readers? YOU decide!

I think anything that encourages large numbers of fanboys to come here and gawk at this thread should be avoided.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:06 / 06.10.05
Also from the FAQ:

There's a lot of friendly joking around here, but you may want to let us get used to you before you start throwing the insults around. Good manners are golden, even for anarchists-in fact especially for anarchists: a Collective can only hang together as long as the goodwill lasts.

Now, I'm still waiting for any example of one abusive and/or sleazy potshot in my name addressed to Mrs. G, let alone enough of them to justify the suggestion that the next one would be "yet another", rather than, say, "the first". I don't believe that there is such a thing, and I have the singular advantage in conceiving this belief of regularly reading this message board. If no such thing can be presented, I imagine an apology will probably be forthcoming, in the spirit of good manners, and accepted in the same spirit, with no hard feelings. Apparent slight to partner, hot blood, protective impulse - all very creditable.
 
 
Ex
13:36 / 06.10.05
Also, Haus was the poster who suggested Morrisson's wife's surname be left out of a thread, to protect her privacy in case she didn't want it available online.

Less interesting than a robot punch-up, though, so feel free to ignore.
 
 
Sax
13:44 / 06.10.05
Does this mean you were lying about being best friends, Haus?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:54 / 06.10.05
Sax, I just don't know any more. I just don't know.
 
 
Ganesh
13:59 / 06.10.05
This sort of thing can happen in relationships, Haus. You just need to work it through together.
 
 
Evil Scientist
14:00 / 06.10.05
(to self) Ha haa! Haus is all vulnerable and confused. Now is the time to strike. To the nearest available controversial thread!

(pauses, thinks for a second).

Nah, he'd still kick my ass.
 
 
Sax
14:03 / 06.10.05


"You get on the internet now and tell that gobby bastard that it's all over."*




*Just joking, Grant. I'd still like you to give me a quote for the cover of my book if you ever get round to replying to that e-mail I sent.
 
 
Ganesh
14:05 / 06.10.05
Why're you calling George "Grant", Sax?
 
 
Sax
14:23 / 06.10.05
Didn't you read Lying in the Gutters? He's trying to put the whole "George" thing behind him. Do keep up.
 
 
alexsheers
14:25 / 06.10.05
I've got that self-same James Bond cap gun! He's going to get an awful ringing noise in his ear if that goes off.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
14:29 / 06.10.05
Hang on... if, in fictionsuit terms, "Kristan" is G"G"M, then who the Hell is Goodness Gracious Meme? I thought that was code!
 
 
Ganesh
14:32 / 06.10.05
Tt. That photo sets a terrible example for Sax's child.
 
 
Sax
14:36 / 06.10.05
If you knew how that made me feel you wouldn't say that.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
14:43 / 06.10.05
Haus would, though. He's a twat like that.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:57 / 06.10.05
Anyone else think that in that linked article with pics of Quietly that Quitely looks like one of his own characters?
 
 
_Boboss
15:02 / 06.10.05
doesn't the goodness of finderwolf's soul make everyone else feel just a little ashamed?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:11 / 06.10.05
I don't know - is that a compliment or a potshot?
 
 
diz
15:35 / 06.10.05
I don't know - is that a compliment or a potshot?

I'm not sure, but I can tell you this: Grant Morrison is not gay. No sirree. His wife is a hottie.
 
 
Jack Fear
15:44 / 06.10.05
BASTARD! You're on The List, now.

You don't fuck with The Morrison, man. He's got powers. Madjyxyzptlkal powers.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:56 / 06.10.05
The weird thing is, I don't think anyone was. I mean, there was some mockery of Mark Millar's treatment of male penetrability, and some mockery of fanboys who seem insistent on pretending that they have some sort of privileged access to the private life or thoughts of Grant Morrison, and quite a bit of mockery of a particularly sycophantic interviewer. The only time I can think of that he himself was subjected to any real personal criticism was that "schizophrenics can't process metaphor" nonsense. Which is perhaps why I am still waiting for any explanation of this rather bellicose statement that sleazy and abusive potshots have been taken at Mrs. George by yours truly.
 
 
Mario
16:12 / 06.10.05
So, I hear that Grant is doing All-Star Superman. Is anyone else looking forward to it?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
16:29 / 06.10.05
The weird thing is, I don't think anyone was. I mean, there was some mockery of Mark Millar's treatment of male penetrability, and some mockery of fanboys who seem insistent on pretending that they have some sort of privileged access to the private life or thoughts of Grant Morrison, and quite a bit of mockery of a particularly sycophantic interviewer... Which is perhaps why I am still waiting for any explanation of this rather bellicose statement that sleazy and abusive potshots have been taken at Mrs. George by yours truly.

I think that's a tall order, Haus. Your gentleman-with-wounded-pride stance here is based on the notion that Grant Morrison should have read enough of recent Barbelith to recognise where you were coming from with your parody.

I don't really feel you can demand of the author without whom there would be no Barbelith that he must follow conventional board etiquette, as if this were a level playing-field. It's not as though you're talking to Mordant Carnival.

To someone who hadn't treated himself to and understood the point of your recent Millar parodies, then found himself named and his wife mentioned in your above post, I think your contribution could be taken as objectionable personal insult and provoke a knee-jerk reaction.

Just to clarify, when I said that some of my best friends were gay, I wasn't counting Grant Morrison. Not because he is not my best friend - he is - but because he is absolutely, positively not gay. Have you seen his wife? Well I have, and she's real. Not a bloke, not a tranny - Grant doesn't like 'em that much, gentle readers! - just 100% pure prime lady.

Seen out of the broader context of your recent contributions in that style, I can see how that could push the buttons of the person named.

It's true that to call this a cheap pot-shot at Morrison's wife is to misunderstand your intention. But to make coldly huffy references to the apology you haven't yet received is inappropriate, in my opinion. Morrison is not just another participant in this democratic arena; he's surely one of the main reasons for this site, and provides the fuel for much of this specific board's discussions. If he hasn't read your recent posts, and misunderstood the one above, I think he has the fair excuse that he was redeveloping the DC Universe.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:51 / 06.10.05
Actually, I'm waiting for an explanation or instantiation. If that cannot be generated, an apology would be nice. I suggest a closer reading of my responses in the thread, in particular this one, which doesn't sound very coldly huffy to me at all.

I don't really feel you can demand of the author without whom there would be no Barbelith that he must follow conventional board etiquette, as if this were a level playing-field. It's not as though you're talking to Mordant Carnival.

No, it certainly isn't. Mordant Carnival has contributed a large amount of value to Barbelith over the time it has existed, and is a regular and trusted contributor. The Kristan ficsuit - two users, one topic, three posts - is not. As such, Mordant should be cut a lot more slack if she happens to lose it one evening and get shouty.

And that's it. It's perfectly reasonable for GM to be too busy making 24-page magic to read Barbelith, just as I can reasonably say that I have been too busy boning up on my Arthurian mythology to contribute much to the Laboratory. Difference being that I have chosen to respond to this by not contributing much to the Laboratory. GM, on the other hand, has chosen to describe the above as a sleazy and abusive potshot, and as the precursor to "yet another" sleazy and abusive potshot, suggesting that he has some sort of evidence of multiple sleazy and abusive potshots in the past. So, if he has not been reading Barbelith, he probably shouldn't be making statements that suggest he has. If he has, he should be able to back up his assertion. Most of us have overreacted or said something regrettable once in a while - I remember Cameron and me having a fine old barny once over a ghastly misunderstanding, but while I had no problem when the blood-heat had settled in saying to him "I'm very sorry, that was a really dick-witted line of mine, and I was both insensitive and rude to write it", at no point did I think that I had to say that because he was a mate of the writer of The Invisibles.

If you want to give people special privileges to say and do whatever they like because they write extremely good comics, then please feel free to do so. You will certainly not be alone in this - the Swingball set is in the shed holding its weekly meeting. However, it is not board policy to do so, nor is it, IMHO, good policy for human interaction. Board policy, such as it is, is embodied in the FAQ, which is quoted above. As somebody said on Barbelith in 2001, Barbelith, despite taking its name and general style from The Invisibles, really isn't a Grant Morrison fan site anymore. I think the Tearoom of Despair had a forum, but it broke.
 
 
Ganesh
17:09 / 06.10.05
Can I have special dispension to misinterpret Haus's posts on the grounds that I'm too busy healing the sick to spend time on Barbelith understanding the context of his remarks?
 
  

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