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Morrison's All-Star Superman

 
  

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alexsheers
09:52 / 22.12.04
GM: The first issue '”Faster…” starts with Superman attempting to rescue the first manned spaced mission to the sun! An overdose of solar radiation triggers a fatal chain reaction in his cell structure, P.R.O.J.E.C.T. specialists race to create a new Superman and...well, you'll have to wait and see.

The Fortress appears in issue #2, stuffed with a ton of new toys and gets haunted by the bandaged ghost of the Unknown Superman of 4500 AD. The Kandorians finally get out of that bottle. Superman gets a new power. Clark Kent winds up sharing a prison cell with Lex Luthor in issue #5. The Bizarro Cube Earth invades our world in an epic 2-part adventure (no 'decompression' here!) and we're recasting the Bizarros as a frightening, unstoppable zombie-plague style menace. Bizarro Jor-El and the Bizarro JLA turn up in the second part of that story too. What else? We meet Earth's replacement Superman and Clark Kent takes on a new superhero identity...Ten of the 12 issues are complete short stories in 22 pages, so lots of stuff happens. And it all links together as a maxi-arc or whatever they call them these days, entitled 'The 12 Labors of Superman'.


More at Newsarama.
 
 
Elegant Mess
11:03 / 22.12.04
One way of looking at 'Superman' is that Clark wears the costume because it makes him faintly ridiculous and non-threatening. He's colorful like a circus strongman. And that costume is like the flag of a one man country that the whole world can recognize and trust.

I don't think I've ever heard the concept of Superman summed up better than that.

This is going to be just glorious.
 
 
fluid_state
11:50 / 22.12.04
The Unknown Superman?? Oh, I've been waiting for this ever since I was 7 and read some team-up book with Supes and The Unknown Soldier. Anticipation is the word of the day, and fascinated is where I go.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
12:43 / 22.12.04
I was hoping for a reworking of the origin, but this is going to be just great.

Ten of the 12 issues are complete short stories in 22 pages, so lots of stuff happens. And it all links together as a maxi-arc or whatever they call them these days, entitled 'The 12 Labors of Superman'.

nothing else is needed.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
12:50 / 22.12.04
But here's the juice:

have a very specific visual style in mind - a kind of Jules Feiffer, Will Eisner, Jack Davis take on our hero and on the action in around the Daily Planet in particular. I'm looking for an exaggerated, emotive approach inspired by the melodramatic gestures of Jewish theater. Vin [Frank] is the only artist who can pull off the kind of subtlety it takes to capture the clumsy, awkward, caffeine-driven buzz of Metropolis, the City of Tomorrow, with its hyperscrapers and cargo blimps and cranky machines, or the balletic movements and interactions of the Planet staff, each with his or her own special body language.

My scripts call for a lot of near-animation of characters in the script because I know Frank can pull it off and make it move. This will be a new but weirdly-appropriate look for Superman and his world, I think. I also think this will be the first time the Clark Kent disguise has made sense visually. Frank draws the transition between Clark and Superman like it's Jekyll and Hyde. Clark doesn't just take off his glasses, his entire posture and attitude changes too. It's going to look great.


So, everyone's running this first issue in their heads at this point, right? Man, this really looks like it could be yet another apex in Frank's apex-mad career. I simply cannot wait to see him draw all this shit.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
12:54 / 22.12.04
Ohhhh man. the best thing about Mozzer is that he talks the talk like no other and, unlike someone like Millar or Ennis, he can walk the frickin' walk.
Needless to say, drool.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
12:55 / 22.12.04
Sorry, I meant Ellis there folks.
 
 
diz
13:02 / 22.12.04
Sorry, I meant Ellis there folks.

One of these days, I'm going to start writing comics under the pen name "Enlis" and really fuck people up.
 
 
Krug
13:25 / 22.12.04
Best Morrison interview yet.

Mad, insipiring, funny and a bit touching to see how much Morrison loves superman.

My already towering expectations are even higher now.

This is going to be the best comic book ever done.

It cannot be here soon enough, suddenly I don't care about any other comic that's coming out in 2005.
 
 
Jack Fear
13:51 / 22.12.04
Why not just read this instead? Same difference.
 
 
Spaniel
16:14 / 22.12.04
Miserable. Old. Bastard.
 
 
Jack Fear
16:20 / 22.12.04
Am I wrong, though?

I mean, I'll probably read the inevitable TPB of this—I won't buy it, but doubtless I'll be able to get it from the library—and while expect to thoroughly enjoy it, I suspect I will do so to precisely the same degree as I enjoyed Superman in the Sixties.

Is that the best we can hope for?

Do you not find it slightly sad-making that so many clever people are jizzing their jumpers at the prospect of Grant'n'Frank delivering 12 issues of the sort of fun silly stories that Leo Dorfman and Edmond Hamilton and Curt Swan used to bash out by the hatful back in the day?
 
 
diz
17:09 / 22.12.04
i think it's a bit reductionist to say that because something is clearly drawing on something from the past that it's ultimately the same as that thing. i see what you're saying, but i think it's too easy to trivialize novel aspects of something while inflating revisited aspects and then dismissing the whole thing as old.

there are cycles to culture, surely, but each time old memes resurface they mutate. we can welcome the return of memes that we think are due for a comeback and at the same time avoid the nostalgia trap by celebrating the new mutations. that, i think, is the difference between creative renewal and stagnant nostalgia. it's the difference between aping what has come before by dutifully copying certain stylistic particulars verbatim (e.g. Byrne and Kirby), and trying to achieve something similar to what someone else achieved in the past, but in a new way and from a different starting point (in terms of time and cultural context).

my hope for this series is that it will be to Superman in the Sixties what Burning Man is to the psychedelic movement of the 60s - definitely drawing on some of the same threads, but in newer, fresher ways. hell, i'd be satisfied if it is to Superman in the Sixties what NXM was to the Claremont/Byrne X-Men.
 
 
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17:56 / 22.12.04
but in a new way and from a different starting point (in terms of time and cultural context).

This is one of the reasons why I think it will be great aswell, but mainly because Grant will probably write a Superman that has a lot more of a feasible human and down to earth side than the others have had. I know he's an alien and yeah yeah yeah but I think readers will be able to understand, associate and relate to Grant's Supes a lot more than they have been able to with many, or any other versions.
 
 
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17:58 / 22.12.04
Also the fact that it's gonna fucking rock.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
18:06 / 22.12.04
Jack, if you honestly don't think that Grant and Frank won't deliver anything new or original you're either insane or willfully disingenuous.
 
 
Jack Fear
18:29 / 22.12.04
COMICS CREATORS IN "DOING THEIR FUCKING JOB" SHOCKER
Fans Spunk Selves Anticipating Light, Disposable Entertainment
 
 
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18:51 / 22.12.04
 
 
Jack Fear
18:54 / 22.12.04
I'm sorry? Are you saying it's not a comics creator's job to provide a fun, imaginative story in each and every comic s/he writes or draws?

What a curious notion. Still, it would explain a lot, if it were true.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
19:00 / 22.12.04
COMICS CREATORS IN "DOING THEIR FUCKING JOB" SHOCKER
Fans Spunk Selves Anticipating Light, Disposable Entertainment


GRUMPY MAN MISSES POINT - NO ONE SURPRISED
 
 
Jack Fear
19:26 / 22.12.04
UPSTART FICTIONSUIT STEALS TRADEMARK GAG
Can Expect A Good Kicking Behind Bike Sheds This Afternoon
 
 
diz
19:27 / 22.12.04
I'm sorry? Are you saying it's not a comics creator's job to provide a fun, imaginative story in each and every comic s/he writes or draws?

What a curious notion. Still, it would explain a lot, if it were true.


i think it does explain a lot, actually. Marvel and DC hire people to service existing franchises, not to be creative in a free-form way. they seldom give the creators enough latitude to do anything that's too fun or creative, and increasingly creators don't seem to be looking to do anything fun or creative. most of the time, it's a moot point, because whenever the stars align and the editors and creators let something fun and creative slip through the cracks, the fans usually get pissed.

speaking of Superman in the Sixties, i remember being taken aback when i first read the ad copy for it somewhere, and it talked about how it includes the first appearances of Brainiac, the Bottle City of Kandor, the Fortress of Solitude, Krypto, etc., and it occurred to me how much those things were now part of the established Superman mythos. i tried to imagine what the Superman mythos would have been like without them: very Earth-bound and grounded, in some senses, and what a wild, crazy new direction the Superman books must have seemed like they were taking in such a short time, especially considering that Superman was already an established cultural icon. what an absolutely huge pair of balls that must have taken! what creative freedom they had! i was really hit by the degree to which the transition from the Golden Age to the Silver Age was a really crazy leap into unknown space, incorporating crazy sci-fi concepts and what was, at the time, really cutting edge science and technology.

i mean, honestly: Brainiac. i mean, if someone submitted this today, readers would bitch about this green alien dork who collects cities and puts them in bottles, but can you imagine Superman's world without a Brainiac? or a Supergirl? or even a Darkseid, who's not even strictly speaking a Superman villain to begin with? when did people stop inventing new characters and concepts like this? when did it just get to be an issue of servicing established pantheons of characters?

my hope is that the combination of creative freedom and GM's drug-addled imagination might actually add features this permanent to the Superman legend.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
19:57 / 22.12.04
UPSTART FICTIONSUIT?

Really? I've been around since The Bomb, cheers. I'll await my kicking your Lordship.
 
 
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20:06 / 22.12.04
I'm sorry? Are you saying it's not a comics creator's job to provide a fun, imaginative story in each and every comic s/he writes or draws?

What a curious notion. Still, it would explain a lot, if it were true.


Oh come on Jackie, I'm sure there'll be a few surprises in it for you. At least the writing is 99% guaranteed to be top notch, what with the love for Superman that Grant has. I was just playing.
 
 
Billuccho!
21:22 / 22.12.04
I.
Am.
There.

Seriously, I've always thought that there's never been an actually *great* Superman comic ever done. Decent ones, alright ones, okay ones, and a mountain of shite, but, finally, I think we're gonna get a great one. The plots sound great, the ideas, the themes, the whole mood, they all sound great, and hell, we get Morrison writing Bizarro World, for God's sake. How can you *not* love that?

My favorite bit:
"I don't want anyone to think I'm taking this literally - it's not like Jimmy Olsen's one of the disciples or Lois is the Magdalene - and imagine how diffferent Western religion would be would be if God had rocketed Jesus to Earth so that he could escape the destruction of Heaven...brrr... Superman is very different from Christ in that here we have a powerful redeemer who doesn't feel the need to sacrifice himself to get his point across. No-one has to die in Superman's name. Superman is a much more progressive figure than Jesus, and as a science fiction savior rocketed to Earth from a world of wonder, I think the character has the potential to transcend his humble origins and say something quite profound to those of us living in the secular 21st century."
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
21:26 / 22.12.04
Also, isn't resigning to a read of Sixties Superman missing the entire point of the segment I posted? Sure, Grant might be writing stories that echo/do-not-at-all-exceed-the-joys-of Silver Age stories, fine, but doesn't dismissing it because of that completely ignore what Frank Quitely brings to the table? To be honest, any Benjamin Juniors crusting on the inside of my boxers are there because of that particular prospect, not solely because I'll be reading a story where Superman fights the Abominable Snowman. I want to see how Frank is going to pull this off, I'm dying to see a Clark Kent and Superman who aren't just interhangeable versions of each other with or without the black rimmed glasses. The issues of posture, visual characterization, etc, these are the reasons I'm so looking forward to this series. If accurately portraying all of the things described by Grant in the segment of the interview I posted were actually Job Requirements in the comics industry, then you'd probably be able to count the number of artists left in the field on two hands. Well, maybe not two hands, but certainly on the extremities available to be counted in a small restaurant booth.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
03:51 / 23.12.04
in a way I understand Jack's concern. the interview left me a bit disappointed that Grant - at least apparently - is not aiming to change the character's status quo a bit, 'cause usually that's what Grant does.

not that the character needs a revamp right now, but Moz usually kind of reworks them - and take them back to their roots [which is what NXM always was and that rabid Marvel fans fail to realize].

to make the character relevant maybe you need to not only have Supes at it with sapienossaur, but to have the menaces reach from Metropolis. it has to be strongly based in the city. otherwise it could be a story with the Flash and it wouldn't make a difference.

or maybe we're just that jealous. because when I start blabbing about how Morrison should start a comic it's time to get some sleep [man, do I need it].

guess we've reached a dead end here, discussing the comic without actually seeing it.
 
 
Ben Danes
05:54 / 23.12.04
Its going to have Solaris in it. Words cannot express how happy that makes me. Craving this book right now.
 
 
Spaniel
10:44 / 23.12.04
Jack, I couldn't agree more that comic fans often set their sights low, but surely their are degrees of fun and degrees of creativity?
I think what's exciting us, beyond the usual fanboy spunkery (yay DC! yay Superman! yay super-villians!), is that Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely comics are often very fun and very creative, and that this particular project could produce some of their best work to date.

I'm not expecting the ground to open beneath my feet the second I fling open the cover, and I don't think DC are set to boost their circulation by a gazillion trillion books, but I am expecting high quality comics.
 
 
chaos_15
12:50 / 23.12.04
I think it'll be a bit like Tom Strong: old school comics with a modern day mentallity. One could say it's old, but when you read it you see it's very comtemporary and fun. I think you can tackle the sixties superman without making it a complete reproduction of what was done back then, just the same kind of imagination and fun.

You know I can't get mymind around the fact that i think this will be a weird mix between Flex Mentallo and Seaguy.
 
 
The Falcon
14:07 / 23.12.04
I find those old comics hard to read anyway.

I'm surprised at Grant's offhanded mention of his 'giving the conclusion of Red Son to Millar'. Not at the meat of the revelation, more the manner and the actual mention.

But fair enough.
 
 
Krug
15:43 / 23.12.04
I wonder if he meant the world in a bottle line, which made it the best superman story ever written.

And I don't care for Superman.

Even Alan Moore couldn't write a Superman that interested me.

I think we really shouldn't knock Grant's Superman just because he isn't going to turn him Superatheist or something wildly different. If he wants a classic superman, there will be Morrisonisms in there to make it worth my money.

And Frank Quitely.

What the fuck is wrong with you all?

Frank QUITELY!

I think Grant geniunely loves Superman like he loves no other. And this interview is the only one that's making me wonder if the comic will actually be better than Grant's own hype.

Oh wait, how could I...

Frank Quitely.
 
 
The Falcon
09:48 / 24.12.04
Incorrect, Miles.

His #1 love is the Flash.
 
 
Krug
20:53 / 24.12.04
THat's what the old interviews suggested and I do want to check out his run on the Flash.
 
 
Never or Now!
02:14 / 25.12.04
The best Superman idea I ever had, I gave to Mark Millar for the conclusion of Red Son

Would someone mind telling me what this great idea was?
 
  

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