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The miserable thread

 
  

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This Sunday
22:36 / 31.08.07
MW, you made the miserable thread a thread of celebratory happiness. Even if it passes - so nice. Glad things are better for you now, and hope they continue that direction.
 
 
iamus
22:42 / 31.08.07
Wonderstarr by name....

Well done you. Keep it up and know that there's an abundance of HUGGLES! here whenever you need them, and even when you don't. 'Cause you're one of us. And we are too cool.


YOU WIN!
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
23:28 / 31.08.07
All of the above, Miss W., echoed.
 
 
Princess
01:23 / 01.09.07
(Swashbuckling)

I don't want to be not-straight anymore.
I went out in, what I thought was, fairly innocuous clothing. I had eye make up on. Thats fairly de rigeur for young people. And, as a result of it a man bought me a drink. In a straight bar to boot.

But also, I had a group of boys tell me I was a "dirty faggot".
I had people tell me I was "sick" and "dirty".
I've had people walk past me spoting abuse in chorus.
I've had to stand by the police just because I'm visibly opting out of the gene pool.


This in a liberal town.
It worries me that I will never be happy and for lenth of my life heterosexual men will keep asking me questions about my arse and then making me feel like degenerate shit when I don't play at heterosexual.

And this in a "liberal" town.
 
 
Princess
01:37 / 01.09.07
(Swashbuckling)
And, I'm drunk and I am actually ugly because the hairspray failed and now I loo grasy rather than fey.

I got rid of the only person who loved me unconditionally and now I feel lonely.

Thats fucking stupid.
 
 
EvskiG
01:47 / 01.09.07
Sorry to hear it. But it seems like things are getting more tolerant every day.

Sometime in the future you'll be able to tell kids that you were around for the death throes of homophobia. And they'll find the whole concept as absurd as segregated drinking fountains in the American South.

And there will be another guy who will love you unconditionally, sooner than you expect.

And I'm sure your hair looked fine before you got home.
 
 
Princess
01:51 / 01.09.07
(Swashbuckling)
Well, my hair kinda deflated about 2 hours before I got in the taxi. So I've come to terms with it's stubborn desire for a side parting.

But I hope you are right about the rest. Because it's fucking shitty at the moment.

(Obviously, it's not quite being burnt at the stake or lynched, so maybe I should at least be thankful that it is less prevalent.)
 
 
Princess
01:53 / 01.09.07
(Swashbuckling)
And thanks too.
That's a really nice sentiment.
 
 
Tsuga
02:08 / 01.09.07
Our young cat (a little over one year old) has disappeared. I fed him this morning and afterwards he laid on my arm at the computer for a few minutes so I can scratch his head, something he does every morning. Then I let him outside. We haven't seen him since, which is totally out of character, he comes in and out all day long. I've got a bad feeling it's coyotes. Fuck fuck fuck.
 
 
sorenson
14:10 / 02.09.07
Tsuga I know that scared feeling. I have no idea what has happened to your cat, but I do know that when he was a young un my cat would sometimes disappear for weirdly long stretches of time, leaving me panicky and afraid. I hope your cat comes back soon, tail in the air after a wild adventure, meowing loudly for his dinner.
 
 
Tsuga
15:55 / 02.09.07
Thanks, I hope you're right about him returning, but in reality, I'm pretty sure he's gone at this point. I know that often cats will disappear for a couple of days, but I think that's more often in neighborhoods. We have no real neighbors, just woods around. And this boy always stays around the house, I mean, his roaming fun is within a couple hundred feet always. Now it's two days with no sign at all. I've been looking up in trees, wandered around the woods, nothing. We talked to our closest neighbors today, over the ridge, they have not seen him, either. It's even harder for my spouse, she's here all day with him, and he's the baby of our geriatric pet menagerie.
I'm going to stop complaining now and just accept it and be sad. We'll be jubilant if he shows up, but sometimes it just doesn't happen; I think this is one of those times.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
18:16 / 02.09.07
Princess, how horrible for you. Let's hope Ev. is right. You are not any of the awful things those people said to you and I'm certain you will be loved again very soon.

Tsuga, I'm sorry about your cat. What a rotten thing to happen.
 
 
sorenson
02:20 / 03.09.07
Oh Tsuga, it really doesn't sound good. I am so sorry - losing a pet is always devastating. Make sure to post in the happy thread if he does show up, though...
 
 
Spaniel
11:59 / 03.09.07
Tsuga, sorry mate.

MW it's great to hear from you - I was really starting to worry there. Glad life's picking up for you.
 
 
Disco is My Class War
05:58 / 11.09.07
Any update on your cat, Tsuga? Did he come back?

I'm miserable for a whole bunch of really easily explained reasons. My ex, with whom I've been living for the past six months since we broke up, is going off to London on Sunday. We're only just dividing all our stuff now. Heavy.

Then it's my birthday on Monday and although I've got drinks scheduled the following weekend, I've got no actual plans to see anyone on my birthday, and no-one has proposed anything (because who knows how I'll be feeling!) I'm terrified I'd be a grizzly mess anyhow, unfit for social consumption.
 
 
Tsuga
09:35 / 11.09.07
Sorry, Disco, maybe you can treat yourself to cake and beer on Monday.
As to our cat, sadly still no sign at all. I think he's gone, there's just nowhere for him to be hiding out. Ugh, it's depressing.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
10:02 / 11.09.07
I dreamed about a bitterly remembered former friend. You know those dreams where you're getting on great, and you can't remember why you ever stopped talking to them, and then you wake up...?

Yeah, that.
 
 
Disco is My Class War
10:29 / 11.09.07
Urgh to Tsuga and to Aunt Beast. Friends you're not talking to, double urgh.

This morning I dreamt that I was a child again, but that I was living in my current house. My parents were around, and they cooked dinner, but there was only a certain amount of meat to go around. So they ate the meat themselves and made me have vegetable stew. When I got upset, they kicked me out of the house. It was cold and raining. And I was sad.

My parents did have their moments, but they were never neglectful or selfish. Weird.
 
 
maneki neko
11:31 / 11.09.07
The parents in your dream probably have little to do with your parents in real life. According to Gestalt Therapy for example, each character and object in a dream represent alienated parts of the personality. Dreams are seen as messages, which tell you where you are in relation to yourself and the world in the present time. In order to gain a better understanding of a dream you would need to act or speak for each dream image, e.g. the house, the parents, the vegetable stew etc. I like it because it's a very playful way of working with dreams and you can get very interesting insights.
 
 
Papess
13:11 / 11.09.07
I am slipping very quickly into a pit of depression. Feelings of being overwhelmed and wanting to die. I feel like not moving. It is an effort to type. I have to type though, because I have to complete my article for the Temple Journal. Ironically, a lot of the article is about dealing with negative states of mind. So, I have the techniques. I know what to do to rid myself of this hurt. I am rarely, if ever depressed anymore. I can't really recall the last time I had this dark, energy-sapping feeling. Sometimes though, I just need to feel this hurt and anger. Before it takes me to some place more long-term, I will make certain that I rid myself of this. One cannot function properly in negative states. Functioning properly is a necessity for me. I can no longer indulge in negativity without taking the steps to try and change it by myself. I cannot rely on others to do that for me.

So, just a few more minutes and I will deal with this in short order. After all, it is not my fault that my parents really didn't/don't want me and let me know that in every passive-aggressive manner and sometimes just aggressive manner they can legally behave in. I a just tired of expecting them to love me in a healthy and supportive manner. I am sick of questions that are not made out of genuine concern, but instead, for hoarding ammunition to use against me. I am tired of living in fear of their constant judgment - nothing, but nothing is right that I do. They are never at fault. That who I am, and the issues I have had in my life have nothing at all to do with them - like I was raised by wolves. Wolves might have been more nurturing. I was not allowed to exist in my home. I was not to be seen nor heard in any manner. But I wasn't allowed to go out and have friends, either. I was to play in a basement crawlspace, unseen, unheard and not wrecking anything. Because I wreck everything, they think. From the moment I was born, I was wrecking stuff for them.

Now, I must realize how selfish they are. I must endeavour to not carry this on in my own pain and anger. I have to look upon them with the compassion of a bodhisattva, and know that their misguided ways, and self-centred behaviour is the result of the sick mindstream of generations before. I have to forgive them or else I am doomed to repeat it. Then I have to cleanse myself of it, so I don't pass it on.

Thank you for listening Barbelith.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
13:27 / 11.09.07
Yo! You and Kegs! Sherbrooke! This weekend! FIELD TRIP!
 
 
Katherine
13:30 / 11.09.07
Medulla, I hope you feel better soon and get yourself a big treat such as hot chocolate or tea & crumpets.
 
 
Mistoffelees
13:37 / 11.09.07
If your insurance covers it, you can try therapy, Medulla. For different reasons, my parents weren´t able to be proper parents and thanks to my therapist I realized that and that can help.

You could try once a week for four weeks at first, for example.
 
 
Spaniel
14:03 / 11.09.07
MO, always happy to listen.
 
 
Papess
14:13 / 11.09.07
MattS: What a lovely invite. I have PMed you.

Archabyss: Hot chocolate is a great idea...and yeah, I should probably eat something! Mornings are harder with my sugar levels dropped to zilch and no breakie.

Mist: I have just started therapy. I am lucky to have a network of friends and spiritual support systems in place as well. I am in a good place which makes this easier to deal with rather than the situation acting as an infection to the rest of my psyche. A few years ago, I didn't have the tools to deal with any of this. Nothing ever got better because of that. In fact, it always got worse and worse. I feel very blessed that I have developed the tools/skill to deal more effectively with negativity. It does make me very sad to see my parents still operating in this mode of behaviour - or anyone else for that matter! This morning, not thinking clearly, I gave into it too.

Luckily, I am playing around with Adobe's InDesign program, (and working on my article!). That is making me feel waay awesome! Still, I am going to access my supports and do some cleansing meditaion to bring myself back to centre and balanced.
 
 
Princess
19:13 / 11.09.07
Jim Davidson doesn't feel amis playing the "Political Correctness" card after abusing Brian Dowling. What a prick.

Brian Dowling later being told G.A.Y stood for "Good As You" makes me feel sad that Oscar Wilde is so obviously dead.

I'm not sure if this particularly affected me because Brian Dowling once danced at me in Nightingales.
 
 
Ticker
19:22 / 11.09.07
Medulla you can do some compassion exercises for yourself.

tonglen team pwrz go!

Pema kicks ass doing tonglen

Also imagine having a cuppa with Pema Chödrön!
 
 
Dead Megatron
19:39 / 11.09.07
Sorry to hear about all that, Medula. I can't possibly imagine having unloving, selfish parents as you describe. Were I any closer, I'd go over and offer you a real-live hug. As it is, have a virtual one. And remember: your parents are the screwed-up ones, note you. We're there for you!
 
 
Saint Keggers
23:32 / 11.09.07
Sigh. Medulla I am so sorry to hear what you're going through. And especially after how happy you seemed before.
Can we use the ban-hammer on your parents? Please?
Big hugs for you and a Grrr! THUD! to them.
 
 
Papess
00:12 / 12.09.07
Thank you for the tonglen links, Inklet.

Also imagine having a cuppa with Pema Chödrön!

That would be so delightful. I get the feeling you really like Pema Chödrön! She is very clear, and a beautiful woman. The name of "lotus" certainly is fitting for her.

Deaf Megatron : Thank you for your kind support and virtual hugs. I wish it were as simple as my parents were just unloving and selfish*. If they were categorically evil, I could just be done with them. They aren't of course.

Most of the selfish, misguided idiots I've met are not evil. I know because I am one sometimes. (I realize you didn't actually say that, DM, but I am just going on about how much easier it would be if that were the case.) Dealing with purely evil people would be an easy choice. There are some lovable bits, and some not so lovable bits, however. They sure are waaaay screwed up, but neither of them had the guidance or love they needed while they were growing up. A lot of people didn't and the cycle gets repeated, over and over till someone stops it. Stopping that cycle can take a lifetime to accomplish in itself.

I guess that is what makes me the most miserable, ultimately. The fact that most people live with pain and anger and hurt, simply because they have grown up with it and that is what has been taught to them. Then they teach it to their kids. Or just spread that crap out in the world. It is almost like they feel they have no choice but to live as angry and bitter people. I find people who are angry like this do so because they are scared and the anger and bitterness seems like it protects them. They don't know how to break that cycle of anger, hurt and fear. Anyway...I should be writing this down elsewhere!

*For the record, I don't actually wish for my parents to be just "unloving and selfish" people. I am just wishing this was simpler!
 
 
Princess
20:47 / 13.09.07
This is going to sound petty...but I'm fat.
I'm looking at a gay personal site in New Zealand, and everyone my age looks like a male-model.

The standard of hotness has went up way above my head and now I will have to take up sport to make up for the fact I'm rubenesque.

I may only have a few months to completely transform my body.

I'm trying to convince myself that this does not mean I will die alone choking to death on a chicken grease sandwhich.

Oh dear God.
 
 
Princess
20:55 / 13.09.07
All the ugly people are either too old to be competition or so young that I couldn't possibly beat them.

Now I know when NZ has a 10th of the UK's population. They killed off all the people less attractive that me.
 
 
grant
21:04 / 13.09.07
Nah - it's all them mountains and fish. You climb them mountains, you eat them fish, you'll look like a Kiwi soon enough.

The people, not the bird/fruits.
 
 
Princess
21:29 / 13.09.07
I don't think it will.
I think I will choke to death on a chicken grease sandwhich.

By the time they find me my numerous cats will have began to devour the body.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
21:36 / 13.09.07
Simple solution - get the cats to eat the sandwich before you do, cutting out the choking part. The cats might get a bit fatter, but then you won't have a chance to (what with the cats eating all your food).

It might be nice for the cats if the chicken grease was at least tasty though - after all, they'll be doing you a big favour by a) eating your food to keep you slim and b) stopping you choking.
 
  

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