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Urgh! Fuck!: A thread for untamed hate and anger [PICS]

 
  

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All Acting Regiment
15:10 / 18.12.07
Number of people who didn't give a fuck about the Pogues, folk music, Kirsty McColl, free speech when it applied to other people etc, who NOW think the song's the best thing in the world?

Too many.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:53 / 18.12.07
Not only did you hit my dog, you fucking fuck, but according to the surgeon who just operated on him you must have actually driven over him.

You find out who he/she is, I'll kill 'em for you.
 
 
petunia
16:41 / 18.12.07
The BBC has backed down.

"Radio 1 does not play homophobic lyrics or condone bullying of any kind,"
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
16:49 / 18.12.07
It'll just upset me if I start taking apart every stupid and inane thing said in that link. So I won't!
 
 
petunia
16:54 / 18.12.07
Yes, I tried to form a proepr post but realised pretty much the same thing as you have...
 
 
Shiny: Well Over Thirty
18:10 / 18.12.07
Hmmmm, while I would really rather like it if the word 'faggot' were used as little as possible in general, and while it doesn't bother me in the slightest for it to be cut from the Radio 1 broadcast of the song, what does annoy me is that the whole attempt at banning just gives imbeciles who want to shout about how unfair it is that the 'PC elite' or some such try to ban the use of 'gay' or similar as pejoratives, an excuse to kick off. And it can't have been all that difficult to predict that this would be the outcome, really. And as said it's just bloody odd and quite headsicky for Radio 1 to be editing this song whilst refusing to stop it's DJ's using 'gay' as a pejorative.
 
 
petunia
19:11 / 18.12.07
Yes, it's basically ended up in a situation that has entitled people to think/say that derogatory terms like 'faggot' are actually okay. You know, because common sense prevailed. Or something.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
20:52 / 18.12.07
Okay when used by white people. I think that's the important victory here. White people can be artists! My cat's breath smells of racism so heavily embedded in the collective consciousness it could never be visible!
 
 
ibis the being
00:11 / 19.12.07
I bore witness to the following scintillating exchange at work today:

One of the electricians working on site says to our crew chattily: "Did you hear the new rule at the mall? Santa's not allowed to say 'ho ho ho' anymore, because the women coming in with their kids might get, you know, offended.... I mean, if she thinks that way of herself, well, maybe she shouldn't...." He was passing it off a true fact but I had the distinct impression that it was a "joke" he'd heard on conservative radio and was bungling badly.

One woman working with me responded, "That's terrible! You know, yeah, if she feels that way, maybe she should stop being one of those, and be a parent! Be a mom to her kids then! You know... and also... we just need to stop with this - Bubonic language - and start speaking plain old proper English!"

I'm with ya sister. Seriously you cannot make this stuff up.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
08:50 / 19.12.07
wow.

And sadly you can't make this up either:

Police accused of firing Taser into head of innocent man

Robert Booth
Tuesday December 18, 2007

Guardian

Police fired a 50,000-volt Taser into the head of a 45-year-old company
director who later proved to be unarmed and innocent. Daniel Sylvester,
the owner of an east London security firm employing 65 staff to guard
council offices, pubs and nightclubs, was driving home on October 20
when he was stopped by armed police because of "firearms related
intelligence".

According to Sylvester, he got out of his car and was surrounded by
officers, at least two of whom were carrying automatic weapons. Without
warning, one officer fired a Taser into the back of his head which made
him drop to his knees, he said. A second shock caused him to fall on his
face, breaking a front tooth. A further six shocks made him wet himself
and left him lying in the road in pain while the officers and sniffer
dogs searched the car and found nothing.

...

The incident was part of Operation Neon, a crackdown on guns on London's
streets by using armed response units to stop and search cars. Sylvester
said the incident had left him traumatised and he now suffered from
short-term memory loss. He doubts the police would have stopped him had
he not been black. A spokesman for the Met said: "Just after midnight,
officers on an intelligence-led operation stopped a car in Bounces Road,
N9. The driver got out of the vehicle and was subsequently Tasered. Our
information is the Taser was deployed once."

Sylvester had been followed by police cars for about three miles through
Tottenham before they boxed him in.

"Armed police jumped out and opened my car door," he said. "I said OK,
I'm coming. I asked what was going on and as soon as I stepped out of
the car I felt something touch me on the back of the head and then I was
on my knees. Then it happened again and I was on my face and I felt
somebody pressing my head down with their foot. By the fifth time I
realised officers were pinning my arms together. It was like they were
trying to break my arms and I was in pain, screaming out.

"I was shocked eight times altogether and I had urinated on the floor.
It was like being tortured. It went on and on and I felt they were going
to kill me."

According to guidelines set by the Home Office and the Association of
Chief Police Officers, Tasers should be deployed "where officers are
facing violence or threats of violence of such severity that they would
need to use force to protect the public, themselves and/or the
subject(s) of their action". Tasers have been used 47 times in London
this year, with black people accounting for almost two-thirds of those
stunned.

The government extended the right to use Tasers for all firearms
officers in England and Wales this summer.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
09:32 / 19.12.07
Tasers have been used 47 times in London this year, with black people accounting for almost two-thirds of those stunned.

Without knowing the individual details of each case and what caused the police to be there at the time that's not a particularly useful statistic other than to punch readers 'oooh, aren't the police institutionally racist' buttons, but the rest of the report is pretty fucking terrible. Surely head-tasering has a greater chance of killing someone (or putting them in a coma) than any other part of the body?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:57 / 19.12.07
Um, what? The report is terrible except for the proportion of incidents in which tazers were used on black people?
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
10:04 / 19.12.07
Given that people from the BME communities make up 25% of the population of London, it is a fairly telling statistic as a starting point.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:33 / 19.12.07
Our
information is the Taser was deployed once.


I don't get this. The Tasers carried by law-enforcement officers are configured to record exactly how many times they were fired and when on an internal date stamp. Unless the police have shut off this functionality - which would be incredibly irresponsible - or the taser has been destroyed - which would be very dodgy - then it should not be a question of "their information" - the taser either was or was not fired once or more than once, and that information will be on record.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
18:41 / 19.12.07
You'd think that, wouldn't you?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:44 / 19.12.07
Guys. Let's get some perspective. We're talking about an organisation which can randomly shoot some guy repeatedly in the head WITH A GUN and suffer no repercussions whatsoever.

A little bit of tasering's surely not gonna be a big deal, right?

...we're fucked, aren't we?
 
 
petunia
20:52 / 19.12.07
Fucking non-lethal sense of hard-on entitlement.

Every officer who is armed with a tazer should have to receive numerous shocks from said tazer as part of their training. In the head. Without other officers to catch hir when ze falls face-first onto concrete soaked in their own piss.

And if you carry this logic across to police officers with real guns, I'm sure a certain degree of understanding would be reached...
 
 
The Falcon
21:02 / 19.12.07
Guys. Let's get some perspective. We're talking about an organisation which can randomly shoot some guy repeatedly in the head WITH A GUN and suffer no repercussions whatsoever.

No, c'mon, many people are extremely cross with Ian Blair.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
05:02 / 20.12.07
On Final Um, what? The report is terrible except for the proportion of incidents in which tazers were used on black people?

Wow, my bad, I somehow managed to spend all of yesterday misreading that as one not two-thirds.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
07:59 / 20.12.07
Every officer who is armed with a tazer should have to receive numerous shocks from said tazer as part of their training. In the head. Without other officers to catch hir when ze falls face-first onto concrete soaked in their own piss.

Except the Chief Constable of North Wales. He likes it too much.
 
 
Triplets
14:08 / 20.12.07
follow the instructions of the nice police officer, because you will not enjoy the consequences of disobedience."

Head of a police force referring to the public as patronised children? *shudder*
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
14:57 / 20.12.07
And judging by the experience of Mr Sylvester above, you won't enjoy the consequences even if you do follow the instructions of the nice officer with the torture device.
 
 
petunia
22:43 / 20.12.07
"That was long enough, thanks"

It's cute isn't it?
 
 
Shiny: Well Over Thirty
06:47 / 21.12.07
My mum's just been issued with notice, because they are more or less shutting the hospital in which she works and they don't need kitchen staff anymore.

But far worse than that, they are refusing to pay her redundancy, on the grounds that they offered her a job working different hours, doing different work in a hospital kitchen in a town about twenty miles away, which as she doesn't have a car meant a little over an hours journey including a long walk in the dark in the morning followed by buses each way, as opposed to five minutes walk to her previous job, which they said was a reasonable alternative. Add to that the fact my mom cares for my dad who is disabled, and my mom needs to be able to get to him if he has a fall or somesuch and I don't see how what they've offered can possibly be a reasoable alternative.

But possibly even worse than that, her union have been completely bloody useless in defending her, having taken the bosses side on multiple occasions and point blank refused to get a senior rep involved. As a halfway decent trade union rep myself the whole thing would make my blood boil whoever it was happening to, but as it's someone I care about it makes me especially mad. I've advised my mum to make a legal case to an employment tribunal, as I think it's winnable, but it's bloody hard without her having decent support from her union.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
09:05 / 21.12.07
Speaking of electric shocks...

I have no words for this.
 
 
Dead Megatron
10:50 / 21.12.07
What's pissing me off this morning is this

And it's not so much that some rich asshole is willing to pay heisters to steal away pieces of art that belong to all humankind and stash them away in some basement for hir sole enjoyment as it is the sad conditions of important museums in Latin America, which are left to rot with no sponsorship to keep them going as they properly should.

It's a freaking Picasso, for god's sake...
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
13:23 / 21.12.07
These are particularly vile parts of the EST report:

One reason staffers might not have been suspicious of the phone call is that the Rotenberg Center uses surveillance cameras in its group homes to monitor residents and staff, and a central office employee is allowed to initiate discipline by phone.

Well, that's terribly nice and handy for them. Hold on, electric shocks as discipline? Like this:

The teens were awakened in the middle of the night and given the shock treatments, at times while their legs and arms were bound. One teen received 77 shocks and the other received 29. One boy was treated for two first-degree burns.

That's a treatment? That's discipline? Why not just get out the rubber hoses while they're about it?

The center is believed to be the only school in the nation that uses two-second skin-shock punishments to change destructive behavior. The center says the treatments are used in a minority of cases, and only with parental, medical, psychiatric and court approval.

The center has survived two attempts by the state to close it over allegations that its unorthodox methods amount to abuse.


Maybe there'll be a more successful attempt now?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
21:47 / 21.12.07
That would require people to start giving a fuck about vulnerable teenagers, so probably not.
 
 
Liger Null
02:51 / 22.12.07
Maybe the prank call was made by the same guy who made these calls.

Talk about headsick and rage.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
06:04 / 29.12.07
Men prefer women who are pleasant and open over those that are nasty, hmmm, that doesn't make a good story, I know, 'men prefer stupid florists over intelligent career women'.
 
 
Papess
11:49 / 29.12.07
I know that is an enraging article, Lady, but I found this funny:

I told him I have two cats and he looked hopeful. "What are they called?" "Roe and Wade, after the United States supreme court case that resulted in the legalisation of abortion."

Back to head-boiling.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
16:18 / 07.01.08
Had over £2K stolen out of my bank account.

I'd never even had £2K *in* my bank account until about six months ago.
 
 
grant
17:58 / 07.01.08
Gah! That's awful!
 
 
Closed for Business Time
18:23 / 07.01.08
I do hope you get every penny back, Randy. You do don't you?
 
 
Liger Null
18:41 / 07.01.08
Jeez, Randy, do you know how it happened?
 
  

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