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Plane Hits World Trade Center Part 2

 
  

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YNH
16:37 / 11.09.01
quote:Originally posted by grant:



Are you pulling our leg?


I wish, grant. It's been followed by some more reasoned reactions (the host says "Tell us your reaction): "Justice for one person is injustice for another. I support sanctions [presumably against all of the middle east?] but bombing will solve nothing."; "I'd like to say I'm appalled at the number of calls for bombing and killing civilians..."
 
 
Rev. Jesse
16:38 / 11.09.01
The crash in PA was probably highjacked and head for Chicago.
 
 
MJ-12
16:40 / 11.09.01
quote:Originally posted by Naked Flame:
does anyone else think that this might not have happened if Bush wasn't such an asshole about foreign policy?


that implies that he has a foreign policy. I'm no fan of Giulianni, but he at least is coming across as human. W just sound like he's reading the ingredients from a fucking cerial box.
 
 
Ganesh
16:43 / 11.09.01
quote:Originally posted by MJ-12:
that implies that he has a foreign policy. I'm no fan of Giulianni, but he at least is coming across as human. W just sound like he's reading the ingredients from a fucking cerial box.


Mm. He only seemed to become animated towards the end, the stuff about punishing "those folks".
 
 
Ierne
16:45 / 11.09.01
NY Govenor Pataki & NY Mayor Guiliani are doing a news conference -- it keeps cutting out -- Rudy insists there is no definite body count, and probably won't be until tomorrow or later.

If Rudy seems more human than usual, that's because he was in 77 barclay street at the time of the attack, just a hairs' breadth away. His life must have been flashing before him.

The Secret Service is at odds with Bush's aides about where he should be sequestered. The SS want him to hide out West but his people don't want him to "look like a weenie" (Mom's been flipping too fast, not sure which newschannel, sorry)and insist he come back to DC. Any more info on this?

[ 11-09-2001: Message edited by: Ierne ]
 
 
The Knowledge +1
16:56 / 11.09.01
This is fucking crazy shit.

How, I repeat, how do we know what the true story is regarding the Palistinians celebrating footage? It could be extremely powerful propaganda.

People have a habit of thinking that because it's been twenty years since this sort of thing happened, it's died and doesn't happen anymore.

Truth is, until the USA tells us who they suspect, there are no targets that we can confirm are responsible, hence if the US bomb the fuck out of some country we can't hold them accountable until after the fact.

Truth is we don't know what's fact and what's fiction. But ask yourself: Why might you hate the USA so much, why would you perceive them with such hatred that you would commit suicide? Maybe so that your actions might make a statement to the world that normal words fail to dent because of the media-tion the governments of the US and most of the West have set up.

That's what I'm interested in talking about.
 
 
Rev. Jesse
16:58 / 11.09.01
I heard an interview on CNN where he (the Mayor of NYC) said that he had gone in with the 1st wave of firefighters and other emergency crew into the 1st tower.
 
 
mondo a-go-go
16:59 / 11.09.01
then go and talk about it in another fucking thread. this is for news, not opinions. have some respect, man.
 
 
zenburst
17:00 / 11.09.01
Whats up people? I was teaching a preschool class in NYC when administrators and social workers let out horrific cries in the hallway and I found out about what has happened. To stay calm in front of a class when you feel like screaming and crying at the top of your lungs at something like this going on, is exrtremely dificult to say the least. My big brother was working on phones in the building when the plane crashed into it. Thank god he is alright, but he is tramatized expecially because he watched people in desperation jump to there death out of windows, as he ran throught the streets he saw heads and arms of bodies. Unofrtunately I feel this is the beginning of much more horror. I always thought of terrorist attacks like this that might occur in my city, and they finally have. My usually calm peaceful self is full of horror and rage, and I'm sure the country I live in with its high almighty opinion of its self with retaliate hard, and these desperate terrorists will unleash nuclear warheads and what not. This day I shall never forget, just a few years as a teenager many days I went to the world trade center and looked down on the world from the roof. From neighboring states on long drives I could still these the massive buildings, now they are gone. After parents frantically came to my school and picked up the children I saw police in my school's all u could hear were radios and see people somberly standing around. I smell the burning debris of the building, how horrible it all is.
 
 
The Knowledge +1
17:01 / 11.09.01
Sorry, I thought there was room for objective discussion here. Didn't know it had suddenly turned into an exclusive news site. I must have missed that post.

Try and control your emotions buddy.
 
 
mondo a-go-go
17:02 / 11.09.01
zenburst, your post suddenly brought this all home to me again.

ouch.
 
 
mondo a-go-go
17:04 / 11.09.01
quote:Originally posted by Rev. Jesse:
that was news, kooky. The mayor went into the 1st tower after it was hit.


i wasn't talking to you, hon.
 
 
Ierne
17:05 / 11.09.01
From CNN:

World Bank President James Wolfensohn told CNN it will be some days before he makes a decision about cancelling or postponing the IMF/World Bank annual meetings, scheduled for September 29-30.

Shrub update: he's not going to DC, and they've moved him from an Air Force 1 plane to a DefCom (sp?) plane. Somewhere in Nebraska (Offut Airforce Base) he's being briefed.

[ 11-09-2001: Message edited by: Ierne ]
 
 
mondo a-go-go
17:09 / 11.09.01
bush has gone to the strategic air command base in nebraska (where they were based in WW2)
 
 
dragonthief
17:11 / 11.09.01
You on BBC2, Kooky?
 
 
mondo a-go-go
17:14 / 11.09.01
yeppers
 
 
grant
17:14 / 11.09.01
quote:Originally posted by The Knowledge +1:
Sorry, I thought there was room for objective discussion here. Didn't know it had suddenly turned into an exclusive news site. I must have missed that post.

Try and control your emotions buddy.


There's a thread set up in the Switchboard for political theorization.

It's over here.
 
 
dragonthief
17:15 / 11.09.01
I'm getting paranoid now.... I reckon we're being goaded into war. I have a horrible feeling they want us to strike.... they have a plan, and I can't think what it is but my instinct tells me "biologicals".
 
 
YNH
17:16 / 11.09.01
Objective? The possibility or some sort of conspiracy isn't all that objective. As someone said earlier, the US is at Defcon five, which gives the government no special powers beyond their day to day activities. Media outlets, especially when trying to hook in to a ratings machine, will air just about anything, and if one airs it, the others will, too. Your first useful question up this alley would be "who aired the dancing Palestinians first?"
 
 
mondo a-go-go
17:19 / 11.09.01
right. i'm not trying to shut down objective debate on the board.

i'm just pointing out that it isn't appropriate for a news-thread.
 
 
dragonthief
17:21 / 11.09.01
quote:Originally posted by kooky has go-go power:
right. i'm not trying to shut down objective debate on the board.

i'm just pointing out that it isn't appropriate for a news-thread.

True, and news should be the priority. But the news is coming in slowly: we have to fill the gaps.
 
 
mondo a-go-go
17:21 / 11.09.01
er. or rather objective debate is appropriate, conspiracy theories have their own thread.
 
 
The Knowledge +1
17:22 / 11.09.01
I disagree.

A lot more people are visiting this post.
 
 
mondo a-go-go
17:22 / 11.09.01
ah. well i'm jumping between three different boards, so i'm trying to pick up what news i can as i do...
 
 
dragonthief
17:22 / 11.09.01
The UK foriegn office (to which MI5 and MI6 report, and they're really very good) has just warned that there is "a strong chance of further atrocities within the United States".
 
 
YNH
17:25 / 11.09.01
C-SPAN belongs maybe in that thread? 30% of the calls are, like my partner's students, calling for bombing the West Bank. And military spokespeople are reiterating "the perpetrators will be punished."

"The era of the terrorist is upon us; and it was just a matter of time." (from the toher room) I feel like we were just talking about this in the Swordfish thread.
 
 
dragonthief
17:25 / 11.09.01
death toll estimated at 2500 so far... but no one really knows. over a 1000 "walking wounded".... any more up to date figures for this?
 
 
mondo a-go-go
17:26 / 11.09.01
someone has just reported that the new york cashmachines are running out of money and supermarkets are rammed...
 
 
mondo a-go-go
17:28 / 11.09.01
uk foreign office has issued warning to people in middle-eastern/muslim countries, warning them of possible hostilities.
 
 
The Knowledge +1
17:29 / 11.09.01
Something I just heard on CNN:

"It has been eight years since the World Trade Towers were attacked"

You've got to ask just how stupid the American government is to let this happen again.

People jumping out of windows minutes after the planes hit?
 
 
grant
17:30 / 11.09.01
Cell phones are down in New York; all the antennas were on top of the towers.
 
 
Perfect Tommy
17:31 / 11.09.01
Given heightened security and general flipping out, I believe it will turn out to be nothing, but I just heard on local news there is a "suspicious device" being looked at by the bomb squad in Terminal 2 of LAX (Los Angeles Int'l Airport).
 
 
YNH
17:31 / 11.09.01
The markets are closed, right?
 
 
Jack Fear
17:33 / 11.09.01
Yes. No trading today, so no "stock market crash." Scaremongering.
 
 
Jack Fear
17:35 / 11.09.01
quote:Originally posted by The Knowledge +1:
Something I just heard on CNN:

"It has been eight years since the World Trade Towers were attacked"

You've got to ask just how stupid the American government is to let this happen again.
Blame the victim, anyone?

While we're at it, it's France's own fault they got their asses kicked twice in two world wars...
 
  

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