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Bear
13:38 / 22.10.01
Since all u peeps seem to know your anime I was wondering if you could help me out.. I've decided to start buying some movies but which should I buy?? Which ones are must haves

I've ordered Ghost in the Shell on DVD and I have Akira on tape (from BBC2 )

Thanx for any help you can give..

oh yeah on a kind of related note, does anyone know the animated series on years ago late on channel 4 with the 3 dragon brothers?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:54 / 22.10.01
"Legend of the Four Kings", I guess.
 
 
Bear
13:56 / 22.10.01
Guess there must have been 4 brothers then
 
 
Seth
14:27 / 22.10.01
Ninja Scroll fucking rules!

I love the two Patlabor films (which I rave about in the adjoining thread, so I won't go into them in depth here). You can pick both up cheap in one double pack.
 
 
mondo a-go-go
14:38 / 22.10.01
ooh, yeah. ninja scroll.

and princess mononoke is out on video in the uk now. but only the dubbed versh
 
 
Bear
14:46 / 22.10.01
How about legend of the overfiend, heard its violent, but is it good? (thanx for the tips)
 
 
The Strobe
15:07 / 22.10.01
Umm... Neon Genesis Evangelion, of course.
 
 
tSuibhne
15:43 / 22.10.01
Personal faves?

movies:
Perfect Blue - great suspense flick
Princess Monoke - DVD has the subtitled version
Ghost In The Shell - I know you said you ordered it, but for anyone else
Akira - this thing really doesn't impress me that much anymore, but I think there are laws against not owning it
Ninja Scroll - is in fact very cool
Um, that's all I can think of now.

TV shows:
NGE - see adjoining thread.
Cowboy Bebop - currently being shown on Cartoon Network in the States on Sunday night at midnight
again, that's all I can think of.

For other tips, grab a pad and pen, do a search in this section on the word anime, and write down what pops up. This group's been pretty picky so far.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
16:00 / 22.10.01
Lain is an excellent 4 dvd set
i am all for Ninja Scroll
Armitage was a decent movie, but the tv series was better

I just completed my Robotech : Maccross Saga DVD set--Old school goodness
 
 
Seth
17:18 / 22.10.01
quote:Originally posted by Chaosbear:
How about legend of the overfiend, heard its violent, but is it good? (thanx for the tips)


I haven't seen them, and I don't want to from all the accounts of violence and rape against women.

quote:Originally posted by I Am:
Akira - this thing really doesn't impress me that much anymore, but I think there are laws against not owning it


Nooo! You've forgotten the thrill of your first love. I must breathe life into your cold blue lips. All together now:

Duuuum!

Duuuum!

Dum! Dum!


Daaahm!

Daaahm!

Dahm! Dahm!
 
 
tSuibhne
18:33 / 22.10.01
quote:Originally posted by expressionless:
Nooo! You've forgotten the thrill of your first love. I must breathe life into your cold blue lips. All together now:


Thanks, I needed a laugh like that after the boring as fuck day it's been here at work.

As for Akira. If you want to grab me with a movie/comic, it's got to have a good story. If it's got beautiful art, that's great icing, but if it doesn't have a good story, it'll just bore me after the second or third time of watching it.

The story for Akira (the movie) is just so convoluted, and doesn't hold up to repeated viewings, for me.

Like I said in a previous thread. Once I finish reading the collections, may be it'll have more meaning. And I'm sure I'll buy the DVD sooner or later. But, Akira is just no longer at the top of my list.
 
 
invisible_al
19:35 / 22.10.01
Well Akira is a very condensed version of the book. If they made the whole book as a anime it would be about 15 hours long (longer?).

And I cannot speak for the dubbed version but Princess Mononoke subtitled is amazing. Saw it at the Baribican yesterday and oh my god does that film kick Disney's arse all around the room.

You could take just about every frame and stick it up in a gallery. It has plot too, nice comment on man vs nature, hatred leading to corruption and the like. No traditional hero get's the girl ending as well.

No wonder Disney is terrified of the people who made it.

Damm gotta get me some more anime on video :-)

(Oh they've put some more showings of Princess Mononoke Friday 26 October and Thursday 1 November 6pm dunno if they're booked up yet. Also www.nausicaa.netsays they're touring the UK afterwards.)
 
 
Lazlo Woodbine [some call me Laz]
19:57 / 22.10.01
-Perfect Blue
because it is the darkest anime i've ever had the pleaser of watching.
-Goast in the shell
for its unbelivable beauty.
-Akira
for its originallity and brillient execution.
-Patlbour 1 (mobile police)
for its Biblical plot and its philososphy
-Transformers The Movie
for the memories

Also The Fist Of The North-Star, was a superb series
 
 
Johnny Mother
22:36 / 22.10.01
What can I say which hasn't been said??
erm...
Orguss 02 - more Decimator craziness.

Professional Golgo 13 - cooler than Arthur.

3x3 Eyes - The first parts are the choice selection...avoid the later episodes.

Streetfighter 2: The Movie - cheesy I know, but it follows the games plot well, is brilliantly animated, and doesn't feature the 'muscles from brussels.'

Appleseed - Truly bizarre, truly great.

Crying Freeman - Had its moments. better than the live action version anyways.

Incidentally, did anyone else catch the live action version of Fist Of The North Star withc Chris Penn. It was indescribable.

[ 23-10-2001: Message edited by: Johnny Mother ]
 
 
T*M*U*M*A
22:47 / 22.10.01
and try the AD police series
 
 
Mazarine
01:06 / 23.10.01
Vampire Hunter D has it's merits, but rent it first, see if it's for you.
 
 
Seth
08:16 / 23.10.01
I wouldn’t say Akira’s plot is convoluted, more that a lot is implied rather than stated. There is a lot of space in the film, with room for different readings. As a result, I find it rewarding with repeated viewing.
 
 
rizla mission
11:06 / 23.10.01
I saw Akira in the cinema last night and it was about a million times better than I remember it being from seeing it on video all those years ago.. I mean, for some reason i remembered it being a bit confusing and lame but, FUCK! how wrong was I..

I think it's because I've read loads of comics in the meantime - watching Akira using standard cinema logic, it just doesn't work, but watching it from the point of view of a moving comic, it absolutely rules.

And my Eastern pals say that the comic is much, much better and that the english translation is selling for a reasonable price at a shop in town..

..so like it or not it looks like I'm about to get hooked on Manga/Anime.
 
 
The Strobe
11:54 / 23.10.01
Rizla - make SURE you get the reissue. Not the icky coloured in version.

It's £22 a book new. Six books. And you can read them damn fast - the art's great, though.
 
 
tSuibhne
13:22 / 23.10.01
Ok, I'll give Akira another watch this weekend. But, I promise nothing.

I second picking up the Akira trades. They're just fucking great. The Ghost In The Shell trade is also REALLY good. And if you dig Princess Monoke, track down Nausicaa, Princess of the Valley of Wind (or something really close to that). It's four books in all, and is done by the same guy who did Monoke. It's got the same man vs. nature, but is set in the post-nuclear war future. Where man has reverted back to the Iron Age or so tech wise. Great series.
 
 
Seth
14:11 / 23.10.01
I've only got the first Akira trade (in fact, I think a friend still has it). It's beautifully paced, has great characterisation (Kaneda is a bit of a bastard, which is lost in the movie to an extent), and the action is smoothly and intelligently staged. Can't afford to collect the rest though. The Ghost in the Shell trade is good for all the reasons I listed in the other thread.
 
 
moriarty
14:12 / 23.10.01
I'm a bit of a nut for the martial arts high school genre. Ranma 1/2 (at least the first episodes), Project A-Ko, The Ultimate Teacher, etc. One that I wish the video store hadn't chucked was Delinquent in Drag, about a boy who, through a bureaucratic mistake, has to attend an all girls' school. There he has to defend himself against every sports team in the school, all while trying to cop a feel with his classmates and avoiding his father, who thinks his son is having an incestuous affair with his wife. The baseball player had me pissing my pants.

Also, I loved Apocalypse Zero. This is the type of movie that people either really hate or really love. Think John Waters and R. Crumb making a cartoon in Japan. Absolute insanity, with giant monsters in drag singing into their sentient genitalia while destroying the city.

And, of course, I second Lain, Akira, et. al. for more highbrow entertainment.
 
 
mondo a-go-go
14:12 / 23.10.01
quote:Originally posted by Rizla Year Zero:
..so like it or not it looks like I'm about to get hooked on Manga/Anime.


my new addiction is inu-yasha. haven't seen any of the animes, but the manga is v entertaining.
 
 
Rogue1
14:27 / 23.10.01
A few recommendations, ordered by genre:

Sci-Fi:

Neon Genesis Evangelion (not an easy series, but still great)
Martian Successor Nadesico (Very funny and has a pretty decent plot)
Ghost In The Shell (anime's answer to Blade Runner)
Cowboy Bebop (Very stylish series, although the main plot is a bit weak)
Serial Experiments Lain (uhhh... my brain hurts)
Space Battleship Yamato (the great grand-daddy of anime space-operas. Cheesy, but fun)

Fantasy:

Escaflowne (Not to everybody's taste, but still good. Avoid the dubbed version like the plague)
Slayers (Perhaps the funniest anime series I've seen)

Comedy/Romance:

Love Hina (truly bizarre romcom. Definitely worth a look)
Hand Maid May (very tacky, but still quite funny)

Horror:

Vampire Princess Miyu (Excellent OAV and TV series, but incredibly depressing)
Hellsing (only seen 1 episode of this so far, but it looks like it's going to be a hellishly impressive vampire series)
Blood: The Last Vampire (short and shallow, but pretty)

Thriller:

Noir (worth watching for the soundtrack alone)
Perfect Blue (hard to follow, but worth wacthing)

Kid's Stuff:

Laputa: Castle in the Sky (classic anime movie. Superb soundtrack)
Gundam (Classic big-robots-hitting-each-other anime. Probably best to stick to the early seasons)
Sailormoon (Classic shoujo anime. Avoid the dub like the plague and stick to the later seasons)
 
 
sleazenation
14:33 / 23.10.01
and if you don'y want to spend close to £100 on manga perhaps a good sample of Otomo's work is Domu a fantastic tale of scifi murder and mayhem in Tokyo towerblocks
 
 
deja_vroom
16:12 / 23.10.01
What about Nausicaa and the valley of something that I can't remember now?

The final scene had a music that kept me rewinding it several times, it was so beautiful, and they created a whole new world there.
 
 
tSuibhne
18:44 / 23.10.01
quote:Originally posted by Imperador de Jade:
What about Nausicaa and the valley of something that I can't remember now?


If you know where I can get a fansub of the original japanese version, I'd love to hear it. Course, I haven't acctually looked for one.

But, from what I've read the American/British/French version of the film (which is a reedit) is so aweful that the guy who created it has asked fans to never mention the film to him.

The manga though is just amazing, as I mentioned before.
 
 
Molly Shortcake
22:15 / 23.10.01
Lain. The Matrix meets Sixth Sence meets the Invisibles.

Fist of the North Star, the Movie. Bodily proportions change randomly from shot to shot. Absurd video game violence, hilarious dialogue.

Aeon Flux. It's not Japanese but it rules nonetheless. Holds up to repeated viewing very well. I can't imagine a single person on this board who wouldn't like it.

Does anyone else think Ghost in the Shell is completely overrated? Thought it was rather boring myself.
 
 
RadJose
23:53 / 23.10.01
yes LAIN LAIN LAIN! it's THAT good

i'm suprised no one mentioned KITE fuck it's so good that No Doubt ripped off a scene for a video of the new CD

and Saber Marionette J is wonky strange and fun, but long as hell i think it's lik 7 tapes or so but worth it, no of the second seris is worth it or the SM:R stuff, but the original is great, and yeah stick to the SUBs on this one
 
 
Bear
12:42 / 24.10.01
wow lots of options..looks like my new online buying powers are going to be put to the test...

Watched Ghost in the Shell yesterday, looks stunning, pity i've only got a crap TV.. story was ok i guess, think i was expecting a little more though..ah well....
 
 
Bear
13:18 / 24.10.01
Think Princess Mononoke is going to be the next one...seems to be wining the recomendations on here and other sites...
 
 
Seth
18:24 / 24.10.01
Aeon Flux not only kicked ass, it was also totally fucked up. No continuity between episodes, antagonist and protagonist swapping at random, lots of strange ickiness. I mean, what was the relationship between Aeon and Trevor Goodchild? Lots of questions about identity, damn good series.
 
 
Margin Walker
05:32 / 04.05.02
(bump)

Thought I'd re-vive this thread, as there's been a lot of Anime finally coming out here in the US, even if it's just on DVD instead of the theatres. Rented "Metropolis" the other day and really dug it. It looked kinda out-of-time, but I liked the old school, "Astro Boy" style they drew it in. And the design reminded me of "Brazil", which is truly a compliment.

Other flicks I've seen on the shelves: "Spriggan" (about fucking time!!), "Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust", & "Jin-Roh" (which comes in a chock-full, 2 disk DVD). As I don't have a DVD player, it might be awhile before I see these. Anybody seen these and care to gloat?
 
 
The Monkey
15:54 / 04.05.02
Spriggan is another manga-into movie, although the arc of the film really only covers the first issue. The plot is thus a little light, but the animation is utterly amazing. The plot follows a Japanese young man who is the top agent of a private agency that guards ancient technology dug up at archaeological sites. In this particular scenario, he's defending Noah's Ark...still on Mt. Ararat in Turkey...from CIA cyborgs. The main villain is very, very, creepy.

VHD: Bloodlust. The animation is breathtaking, strangely surreal yet realistic [winces at own inability to explain]. The plot is lean, although explores some interesting ambiguities not present in the original. Kind of like Kurosawa or Ray, you could say there's a lot of interpretation to be thrown into the silences and the gaps. The dub is not great, but not as bad as, let's say, the original dubbed. The scene is kind of post-apocalyptic meets Western...the feel is akin to, say, "Unforgiven." The plot is a matter of rescuing a girl from her vampire abductee...complicated by competition from human hunters, a parade of ancillary vampire-minion critters with spooky powers, and the fact that the abductee wants to stay abducted.
 
 
videodrome
17:33 / 04.05.02
Inneresting that this got bumped - a local theatre (The Brattle) is showing a bunch of anime I'm not familiar with - Spriggan, among others. Had planned to ask opinions of that.

Also showing is Escaflowne, which seems inneresting. Anyone seen it? I'm curious - I'm not a big anime fan, so I'm pretty selective about what I see. I, for one, thought Metropolis was pretty boring and recycled, despite some fantastic animation, and very good use of music. Terrible, uninvolving characters, though, and a plot I've seen too many times. But Spriggan and Escaflowne could be interesting, adn they're showing the Jin-Roh picture, as well.
 
  

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