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Doctor Who, Season Four, Non-spoiler Thread

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10:57 / 21.05.08

Damn good news.

I didn't think a whole lot of Unicorns and Wasps. I personally think it would have been better without giantalienwasp!!! Getting the Doctor and Donna involved in a regular ol' murder-mystery would have been just as good.

Don't get me wrong though, it was watchable.

11:30 / 21.05.08

El Directo, Moffat can usually be found talking about his episodes in Doctor Who Magazine. There might be a brief interview with him in the issue out next week, but I'd keep an eye open for a full on feature in the magazine during the coming months.

Other than that, I can't remember ever reading an in depth interview with him that laboriously pored over his work. He has a tendency to dance around stuff like that, going off on tangents that entertain him.

15:01 / 21.05.08

Yes, but Coupling.

Am I the only one that read he'd made that, and became horribly convinced Jack Davenport will the next Doctor?

Whisky Priestess

09:43 / 22.05.08

If they have to stick to the 30s/40s middle class white male template established so far, I suppose it could be worse. I just wish they'd go out on a frigging limb for a change doctor-wise. They dick about with the companion formula a little, to be fair, but it's mostly window-dressing and as we all know, the gender balance NEVER changes.

Things they could change (doc/companion):

- Gender (Well, duh)

- Age
(Although Catherine Tate is a step in the right direction companion-wise, I'd love to see a very old/young doctor - can you imagine how having John Hurt or Ben Whishaw take on the role would skew the dynamic really interestingly?)

- Race
(Martha Jones ... meh, whatever, I guess - but it would be a real shake-up to have a non-white Doctor)

- Class/Accent/Town of Origin
(Props to Christopher "lots of planets have a north" Eccleston's, but I'm thinking of the companion here, obviously, as they've ALL been saddled with that fucking grating Sarf London Mockney Lite accent so far)

Sigh. A girl can dream.

09:57 / 22.05.08

Mos Def.

Although, of course, there are still plenty more on the list for them to get through.

11:14 / 22.05.08

Technically he's already played the Doc a couple of times.

Presuming you mean Dicky Grant?

As the seasons go on I really find myself wanting some more of the 9th Doc. 10's appeal to me varies greatly depending on who's writing him.

Yes, but Coupling.

Am I the only one that read he'd made that, and became horribly convinced Jack Davenport will the next Doctor?

I think it's only fair to judge him by his work on Who so far which has been continually kick-ass (although I quite liked Coupling...don't hit me!). Out of everyone involved in the show I think he'll give the best ongoing quality.

Still... Gina Bellman = number 11? That would make me a happy scientist.

uncle retrospective

11:20 / 22.05.08

It could be that Nordie git James Nesbit as he was in Moffet's last show. Then Who would be dead to me.

13:26 / 22.05.08

It's totally going to be James Nesbitt. RTD chose actors who he had worked with in the past, Eccleston in The 2nd Coming and Tennant in Casanova. It makes sense that Moffat would go for somebody fairly high profile for his Doctor, somebody he has worked with in the past. In anticipation of this horrendous inevitabilty, I went out and bought SM and Nesbitt's Jekyll, which while I'm enjoying so far (mainly because of the fantastic extended cast), is weighed down by my indifference (verging on dislike) towards Nesbitt. He's alright in it when he's doing the manic Hyde stuff, though.

The fanboys and girls are screaming for Sally Sparrow for companion (yawn), or Jenny (which would be entertaining). What I can see potentially happening is Michelle Ryan as companion. What with the Bionic Woman crashing and burning she might be interested in returning to the UK to do some nice high profile acting.

13:36 / 22.05.08

I only raised Coupling because we'd already had people A: raving for Press Gang and B: suggesting Nesbit would be cast.

There's a sinking inevitability to both those actors, really. I can imagine the Doctor Davenport would probably give as extant, but also, mercifully, prior, and Nesbit, in British Television Actors Top Trumps, probably has a score of 7 or 8 in the catagory "New-Who-alike". But that's statistics. Statistics are filthy lies.

Richard E. Grant's played the Doctor once, to my knowledge, as so has McGann. Ergo, they should simply exhaust the entireity of Withnail and I, before moving on to other actors.

13:52 / 22.05.08

Please don't let it be Nesbitt. That would be the only thing worse than Richard E Grant trotting out a tired Withnail reprise...

I hear that Lee Scratch Perry is apparently the outside favourite for the role.

13:52 / 22.05.08

"Chill Davros, you're getting very bald."

13:57 / 22.05.08

Isn't this speculation a little premature though? Tennant has, AFAIK, signed on for at least one more season.

14:01 / 22.05.08

Yes, but seriously, what contract lawyer in the land would take a dim view of breaking it so that Mos Def can have the part?

14:19 / 22.05.08

Tennant has signed on for the specials next year. No word of if he's doing season 5 (Moffat's first season).

15:13 / 22.05.08

As far who I want to be the Doctor: David Morrissey. But I don't think that's going to happen, unfortunately.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

15:39 / 22.05.08

Jack Davenport is apparently very busy at the moment in the cast of a show quite probably very short-lived.

All Acting Regiment

15:54 / 22.05.08

No to Nesbitt. Just wrong for the Doctor. I can see him being in the show, just not as the Doctor.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

17:09 / 22.05.08

It doesn't have to be someone the producer has worked with before, none of the producers had personal experience of working with Doctors 1,2,3,4,6 (I think), 7 or 8. Chris Ecclestone offered himself to RTD, not the other way around.

17:53 / 22.05.08

I'm going to resist the turgid joke that could be made there...

I've always wanted to see Joseph Paterson as the Doctor - he played the Marquis de Carabas, who Gaiman has basically admitted was a Doctor analogue, in Neverwhere, and he's worked with Moffat on Jekyll, and is presumably a bit cheaper to hire than Nesbodge, so I'd go with him as the Good Doc.

Actually, I'd just go with him, really, but that's neither here nor there...

All Acting Regiment

17:56 / 22.05.08

What about a female doctor. Ever going to happen?

18:43 / 22.05.08

I think it will.

Additionally, I know nothing.

Hallo, Paper Spaceboy

02:12 / 23.05.08

It'd better be Tilda Swinton when it happens, that's all I'll say.

Actually, Mos Def might be sort of interesting as a Doctor, considering he's already done Ford Prefect...

07:46 / 23.05.08

Quite like the idea of Johnson Paterson, actually. Hadn't thought of Carabas as the Doctor, although I had Ford...

Also, Richard Coyle has all kinds of form.

13:04 / 23.05.08

Philip Glenister as the Doctor.

I'd want to see that.

Mysterious Transfer Student

13:16 / 23.05.08

Paterson Joseph. I'm saying he has more baggage as Johnson in Peep Show or Lyndon in Green Wing than for any lingering Gaiman associations, for good or ill.

Actually, most any of the GW lead males - Stephen Mangan, Julian Rhind-Tutt, scary Mark Heap - could make it interesting, if we're staying in the white male domain, as seems likely. Though I'd be up for seeing Michelle Gomez or Tamsin Greig in the TARDIS as well, but that's enough of my interests.

13:38 / 23.05.08

Tamsin Greig is too busy playing Jane Bennett in Bennett & Bingley, my Saturday-evening, BBC1 sit-com Pride & Prejudice spin-off, which she stars in alongside Kris Marshall.

16:49 / 23.05.08

Though it might not make a huge amount of difference, Paterson Joseph has already been in New Who. He was the arsey contestant that got exterminated in the first season finale.

Whisky Priestess

17:18 / 23.05.08

Oh, that doesn't matter. Freema Agyeman played a totally different character who got killed by the Cybermen at the end of Season 2, and they still resurrected her as Dr. Jones ...

18:53 / 23.05.08

Now that's a fair point....

20:00 / 23.05.08

also the 6th doctor appeared in Dr Who before he became the doctor...

07:57 / 24.05.08

Damn it I was going to say that. The story goes the producer bumped into him again at a wedding and was impressed by how Colin Baker entertained everybody. The logic being 'if he can entertain showbiz folks he can entertain anybody'.

I'm stating now I hat James Nesbitt. I'm well known for it. The only time I've ever enjoyed watching James Nesbitt was his appearance on Never Mind the Buzzcocks recently,

Whisky Priestess

21:35 / 24.05.08

I hat James Nesbitt too. I bowler him, I trilby him, and I especially beret him, with extreme prejudice.

And now I expect you will correct the typo above, and I will look like a loony. So be it!

But what I really came to post about was the rest of this season trailer premiered after Eurovision tonight. I am liking Rose with gun. I am liking very much. The Dark(ness) is Rising and all that ... basically it looks like we are in for a very action-packed latter half of Who, and I am definitely down with that.

Much as it's all very good to have a haunted Doctor, I think in many ways it's more interesting to see what Rose's development has been, thanks to her meeting the Doctor - the dark and downward spiral - mainly because we've been with her from the start which, unless we are over 50, we haven't with the Doc.

Go Rose.

And Gunny.

22:30 / 24.05.08

Looks like the Doctor has driven all of his past companions to be more militaristic and possibly violent. Rose all explode-y and gunny. Martha is all UNIT ready and (not including bouts of weeping over Hath) hardened and Jack has always been very militaristic, but moreso now with Torchwood. I wonder if Donna will have such a conclusion, or will she be spared turning towards violence.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

01:18 / 25.05.08

Thanks to Llama, I just watched it and HOLY CRAP.

It is on, folks, it is motherfuckin' ON.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

10:42 / 25.05.08

Llama, what are you basing your claim that Rose went 'all explodey and gunny' on? Last we saw her she was on a beach in Wales, or on a screen in the TARDIS, based on your opinion of who it is we've seen in this season. Martha is a doctor working for UNIT and a key point of the end of season three is that, despite everything The Master has done, the Doctor would still not ask her to construct a weapon to kill him. She tries to help the Hath because she's a Doctor. As for Jack, he was an ex-soldier before he met the Doctor and Torchwood is so badly written that I'm prepared to leave the sum-up to Hitler on that one. I really can't see Donna turning in to a soldier, this is at least one show where they pay attention to continuity. I do fear for the Cribbins though.

FOOLISH CHILD, THE CRIBBINS CANNOT DIE!

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