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Doctor Who, Season Four, Non-spoiler Thread

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15:10 / 20.04.08

It's interesting that on every trip this season, Donna's had a pop at the doctor for one reason or another.

In Pompeii it's his unwillingness to save the humans. On Ood planet she complains at his holier-than-thou 'who makes yer keks, then' attitude. Next week, it seems she feels angry with the Doc for turning Martha into a soldier.

If the companion is the Doctor's conscience, then it seems his conscience is angry...

All Acting Regiment

14:24 / 21.04.08

Good episode. Liked the look of it a lot. Like the Ood, and have been doing the flappy hand in front of face staring eyes thing quite a lot and upsetting people.

14:34 / 21.04.08

The permanent marker refuses to come off the back of my hands. Damn your Fires of Pompeii!

All Acting Regiment

14:59 / 21.04.08

You know there might be a thread about how to properly 'do' WHO impressions. What's a Dalek? Right arm extended in front of face, shouting, yes? Spinning round at sharp angles. The voice you have to force but you start out with a cockney accent. For Davros you have to open your mouth into a rectangle, a bit like an old man.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

16:20 / 21.04.08

There's no surer way to make a dinner party awkward by having two Who fans at it going, "Uh....we're just going to be in the next room about 45 minutes or so. Just sit in the living room, converse with the other person, and you know where the wine is."

19:11 / 21.04.08

You know you really should be getting every one of the guests to join you watching Dr Who regardless of if they initially want to or not...

All Acting Regiment

19:28 / 21.04.08

Or make them dress up.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

20:16 / 21.04.08

Well, once a month I have the Matts over for dinner. Now that it is Who season again, dinner is had and then we anxiously look at each other before stammering something about it's quite possible someone has uploaded the new episode and we're going to check. Matt's boyfriend Matt sighs, shrugs his shoulders, and goes for a loooong cigarette break. My Matt knows better than to call on a Who night.

22:28 / 21.04.08

Being that it's Who and not just any ol' television show, I feel I may be justified in a peculiar thing that struck me: about the 30 minute mark, when the Ood first go potty and start zapping all those suits, I am convinced there was a Jude Law cameo - one unfortunate with an orb either side.

Can anyone enlighten?

22:31 / 21.04.08

Oh, retract that. Too many caffeine pills.

15:43 / 22.04.08

Hey, I didn't know brains could open up and eat people!!!

I liked the episode. The Oods, who were already interesting and compasion-inducing when they first appeared, now even more so. The un-processed Oods, with their tiny, fragile external brains were a really poetic image. And Sigma Ood was surprisingly charismatic.

This dialogue was excellent:

Doctor: It's a long story
Donna: It's a long walk
Doctor: It was the Devil

Finally, I would like to see the Doctor talk about the upside of being a Time Lord for a change. Yeah, yeah, it's a big burden, we get it.

I'm particularly looking forward the next episode. Martha in full Torchwood mode is gonna be cool.

21:50 / 22.04.08

Full on UNIT mode, Dead Megatron.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

00:52 / 23.04.08

Man, I would love to see today's version of the Brigadier, I really would.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

08:29 / 23.04.08

Minnie Bannister: Are you there Alistair?
Brigadier: I'm just taking my male hormone pills you wanton woman...

19:47 / 23.04.08

Full on UNIT mode, Dead Megatron.

Oops. That's what happens when you have no contact with the original series. Thanks for the link.

Anyway, Martha Martha Martha, wo-hoo.

17:38 / 24.04.08

Just thought - what's the website for this season, then? We've had Torchwood, Unit and Mr Saxon sites - what is it this time around?

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

21:39 / 24.04.08

Surely that will be revealed in the next pair of coming episodes?

Our Lady Has Left the Building

04:55 / 25.04.08

Songs of Praise?

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

11:44 / 25.04.08

Well, there is certainly this whole spooky thing going through it so far talking about how the Doctor's time/song etc. is at an end.

11:52 / 25.04.08

how the Doctor's time/song etc. is at an end.

When the Ood mentioned the Doctor's song coming to an end, the piece of music that played was the Doomsday music. The song might have more to do with Rose, than being an obvious hint about the Doctor's regeneration.
Considering the Ood had different songs- the song of captivity, the song of freedom at the end, the Doctor's song could be about anything.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

11:56 / 25.04.08

Yes, that's true. Maybe the Doctor's own song of heartbreak coming to an end, perhaps?

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

01:55 / 26.04.08

Good analysis even if you don't entirely agree with it and find yourself saying that the first ep was meant to be comedy. Or maybe if you believe there are more than two types of TV show?

Personally I think a GOOD sitcom depends on taking the characters seriously, and the situations less so. Hence the name. A sketch show, not so much, but a sitcom, hell yeah! If you don't care, it's not funny. For me, anyway. (This is why George & Mildred will always beat Terry & June).

I think Rose was a better episode than Partners In Crime because... well, it was better written. Not to say that I didn't like PiC, but to reduce it to some sort of "sitcoms" v "soap operas" thing... it kind of forgets that there is television drama, and comedy, and all manner of other things, that don't fit into either category. And I think whoever wrote that is doing them all a grave disservice. And also is being mean about sitcoms, so BLEH to him.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

03:02 / 26.04.08

"Enjoy your Ood"...

that was good, and I'm starting to like Tate.

Off-topic- I've seen Hamlet precisely twice. Once with Tim McInerneny (sp?) and once with Daniel Day-Lewis. Both about seventeen or eighteen years ago. Tim was awesome- Daniel, surprisingly, sucked ASS.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

17:10 / 26.04.08

I found this speculation about this year's series by doing a Google search online, and aside from what little I know of upcoming episodes, I really quite like where this fellow wants the series to go.

19:38 / 26.04.08

It was surprisingly good tonight! Much better than Raynor's previous Dalek stories. It had a nice old school feel to it too and successfully married the new series' interest in catching up with the companion family with the old series military vs aliens vibe. I felt it was a little bit slow in places and Martha was reduced to being the person in danger, just after a few Torchwood episodes where she was damsel-fodder. Still, I fully expect she'll have a triumphant moment where she kicks some Sontaran ass, hopefully. Speaking of Sontarans, they looked wonderful! The pants looked a bit rubbery whenever they walked but other than that- perfect! The voices, the probic vents, the ray gun staffs- all wonderfully (and quite faithfully) recreated for the new series.

The fear of new technologies theme returns after being absent since the Cybermen episodes and it's nicely presented in a military themed episode. The Sontaran military control the Atmos (what was up with the omission/emission typo?), just like US Defence Department controls the GPS satellites. That was nice parallel.

So yeah. Fun!

19:39 / 26.04.08

And another mention of the Medusa Cascade! But no bees. Boo!

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

22:31 / 26.04.08

Oh. Oh, I quite enjoyed that.

Again, the feel of Classic Who. More and more Donna is quickly becoming a favorite Companion. I did love in the beginning when Martha's mobile rang and the Doctor's trepidation to answer it, as though it were an ex he wasn't sure he wanted to hear from. Of course, Cribbins rocking the world.

I am completely looking forward to the next part.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

00:09 / 27.04.08

That was AWESOME.

Yeah, more Martha was cool, even though she didn't get to do much so far.

I'm liking the way the re-imaginings of the classic bad guys are working- the Daleks, the Cybermen and now the Sontarans...

I think the new show is doing them proud.

Oh, and MOAR CRIBBINS!!!
MOAR CRIBBINS!!!
MOAR!!!

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

01:00 / 27.04.08

Actually, my ideal Who would have Cribbins (CRIBBINS!!!) and Rose's mum as companions.

Just THINK how awesome the two would be together!

It would rock so hard they'd actually have to replace the title music with Ace Of fucking Spades.

It would work. Think about it. It really would. WHY DOES NOBODY EVER LISTEN TO ME???

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

11:35 / 27.04.08

I dunno, Stoats, as you seem to be on the right track.

uncle retrospective

12:38 / 27.04.08

Jakckie hitting on Cribbins every week may be hard to watch though.

Fun ep. Me like.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

13:12 / 27.04.08

Of course, I must admit every time I hear Christopher Ryan's voice, I can't help but think of The Young Ones.

13:21 / 27.04.08

Cribbins has already been a companion of course, in the 1966 film with Peter Cushing. He has, obviously, lost all memory of this somehow over the last 40 years but it kind of explains why he's up watching the stars each night with a vague sense of longing.

I haven't seen this weeks episode yet though so excuse me if its the one where he remembers.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

13:40 / 27.04.08

Believe me, it isn't. Cribbins has selective amnesia.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

14:51 / 27.04.08

He was also Nestle Tip-Top at one point, but he doesn't like talking about that either.

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