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Big Brother 8.

 
  

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STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:09 / 15.06.07
OK, my opinion on Shabnam has been up and down like the Syrian Empire, but I'm not sure why she's getting quite such a hostile reception.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
22:59 / 15.06.07
Apparently Britain's Got Freaks ... I'm sorry, Talent, gained four times the number of viewers Big Brother did quite recently.

Could the scrawl be on the wall?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:47 / 15.06.07
Britain's actually Got Perverts, rather than freaks, according to today's Sun and Mirror.

We're only two weeks in. Next time the shit hits the fan it'll pick up. That "bananas" row was pretty fucking cool, though.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
00:33 / 16.06.07
Well, hopefully now some proper man-meat have entered the house, the social relationships in there will ... impact on each other in a more meaningful sense, right?

Right?

Right!

Right.
 
 
Olulabelle
10:52 / 16.06.07
Proper?

As opposed to the men who are in there now who are...what?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
11:04 / 16.06.07
Let's be charitable and assume Granny meant "not very hunky", rather than "not proper men wot shag birds and that".

D'you know, I'm starting to suspect that Seany (or the "leprechaun of love" as one of the tabloids dubbed him) isn't actually gay at all (unless in what I suppose we have to refer to as the Chr*s M*yl*s sense of being "a bit rubbish). Or even bi. I've been reading all the gossip, and all his exes appear to be female. I mean, perhaps hugging Gerry would count if one was at primary school or something, but...
 
 
Olulabelle
21:49 / 16.06.07
I don't think he is either, I've thought that from the start. It's just like when he converted to Islam. For about 2 days.

I've just freaked myself out by watching the live show for the first time this series, during which Charley was at all times pleasant, funny, interesting, witty and also relatively quiet. Everyon else was talking about each other which is all they ever seem to do, but Charley and Tracey were sitting talking about making roll-ups. It sounds dull but it really wasn't. A much nicer experience than listening to the fighting, anyway. Someone on telly somewhere (perhaps BBBM) said that Charley must be nice at least some of the time because they all still talk to her. Perhaps this is a good example of BB picking the bad bits of people to show on the evening programme.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
15:59 / 17.06.07
Let's be charitable and assume Granny meant "not very hunky", rather than "not proper men wot shag birds and that".

I suppose I meant; guys who'd be dying in there because they couldn't keep up with what their team's been up to lately, where it is the league and so on, and that sort of thing. (Though as to whether the season's over, I have no idea - does it ever stop, these days?)

FHM subscribers. Earners. Normal guys. Men who responded positively to the Coke Zero ads.

Although God knows, Seany (who I'd agree perhaps isn't quite who he claims to be) may tick all of the above boxes.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
16:22 / 17.06.07
The sexuality of present and future Big Brother housemates having not very much, as far as I know (although perhaps I am an evil monster - maybe I should sign up the next time the Klan's on a recruitment drive ... maybe I should ... ) to do with the somewhat facetious, I suppose, point I was on about.
 
 
Olulabelle
21:41 / 18.06.07
Well. I'm enjoying all the man chat about which female they can fuck.

I mean it's not even which female they'd like to fuck, just which one is available. So that's good. Also smashing is Jonathan's leching over Nicky, something she's clearly finding fabulous and completely unthreatening.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
22:11 / 18.06.07
Yeah, tell me about the Jonathan/Nicky leching- I just got out of a gig and had a text message saying "the new old guy is freaking Nicky out". Also that I'd "missed tons". WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING?
 
 
Lama glama
22:21 / 18.06.07
So what's this current task about then? They're in boats now. Is it one of those all-nighter tasks that they invariably always fuck up?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
22:56 / 18.06.07
Carole and Nicky are fighting now. Oh dear.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
00:16 / 19.06.07
I mean it's not even which female they'd like to fuck, just which one is available. So that's good. Also smashing is Jonathan's leching over Nicky, something she's clearly finding fabulous and completely unthreatening.

I've missed all this, so can't really comment, beyond saying that it does sound quite bad.

What is irritating at the moment is the talk of whether it's a Boy or a Girl house now, in terms of who's running the show - for a number of reasons, this seems like a fairly unengaging line of inquiry.

It's all too cluttered and fractious somehow. There's the Ziggy and Chanelle show, there's whatever bollocks Nicky, Seany and Charley want to go on about in the Diary room, or to whoever's unlucky enough to be in the vicinity when they have issues they want to talk about, but I'm not sure if there's much sense of this lot being a group, as yet.

It's all right if one or two of the housemates are morbidly solipsistic, but if they're all like that, then it doesn't appear to make for interesting telly.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
15:21 / 19.06.07
Is he really leching at her? She said he was but I haven't seen any footage and I'm wondering if she isn't mistaking his trying to kind of get through to her as an overture?
 
 
Olulabelle
12:11 / 20.06.07
Well I was thinking about that and it's possible that he isn't insofar as they are all actually doing it to each other, but she's more aware of Jonathan because he's older. I was wondering if she felt more comfortable being looked at by men nearer her own age, and that the age of Jonathan meant that it felt like leching when in fact it was the same kind of looking that she might be accepting from the other guys.

Which is probably still leching.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
12:29 / 20.06.07
It strikes me that none of them really get Jonathan though. I think it's difficult unless you've worked in certain kinds of environments, he reminds me of most men who work in liberal corporate circles and are very ambitious: the type of people who run charities and publishing companies and go to lots of events and have a lot of money. They have this way of looking at you and this internal smarm and they look very closely at people in quite an intimidating way and think it's a bit charming. I have this suspicion that Jonathan, finding Nicky quite interesting, gave her that maybe-inferior-maybe-interesting gaze that those men have and it freaked her and she thought he was coming on to her and then that ended up with he's-always-looking-at-me. I think this because the people who really have trouble with him in the house all seem quite young, have never been employed in an office environment and are still intensely aware of their sexuality in that 'problem' way.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
12:55 / 20.06.07
That seemed to be what he was saying in the Diary Room last night, that he'd been trying to get Nicky to open up, because she seemed like an interesting person, but that he found her closed off, and undynamic. Not to say that there can't be a sexual element to this, but it was more as if he felt Nicky had failed at a job interview than anything else, I thought.

This maybe echoing what Lesley was saying the other week, about her disappointment with the reluctance/inability of the younger housemates to use the show as an extended audition piece, or whatever it was, both Lesley and Johnathan being older, succesful business types who perhaps just don't get the general lethargy/temper flare pattern of the BB scenario.

That said, Nicky seemed to see things quite differently.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
13:30 / 20.06.07
Yeah but they're all mouth aren't they? Including Jonathan, don't get me wrong the Jonathan's of this world hack me off something incredible, they're disconcerting and I dislike them but living in London and working in a media environment means that I've met a shitload of them. The best thing to do is actually to ignore them completely or do something so fucked up that they wince everytime they see you, so it annoys me that she's going on about him leering. I can guarantee that Jonathan has done something approximating leering to every women he's met in the last 20 years and that people respond to it makes him so very much worse.

I know this is a generalisation but he really is a common type in this city. He might be nice at home but he's not at home, he's at work.
 
 
Janean Patience
14:31 / 20.06.07
I think Endemol should be taken to task for their absolute callous heartlessness in not giving Tracey the tragic news that Gatecrasher has burned down. I mean, that place was her whole world.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:45 / 21.06.07
Come the fuck ON, guys... Liam's been given a shitload of cash, Ziggy's dumped Chanelle... WHERE IS EVERYBODY???
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:05 / 21.06.07
"And I think it's not my decision, it's our decision"...

Hmm.

Manipulative much, Ziggy?

Now, WHERE ARE THE SPIDERS???
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:11 / 24.06.07
So Liam's just told the DR he doesn't fancy Nicky. What is WRONG with him?

Hey.

Am I the only person still watching this?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
12:58 / 25.06.07
Still watching, just about.

I've got some sympathy for Ziggy's plight. He's likely damned in the eyes of the voters if he splits with Chanelle, especially given his alleged past as a Love Rat, and he's damned in his own head if he doesn't, as this seems to mean he'll be stuck in a bizarre love triangle with Billi (the thing with Chanelle's rabbit in the Objects task convinced me about this) for the next however many weeks.

As far as Liam goes, it's presumably only the attention of the lasses that's keeping him in there, now he's won all that lolly. So I doubt he sees much percentage in getting involved with Nicky at this point, as that might mean he wouldn't be able to flirt with Charley as much. Plus he won't want to have any lass holding him back when he hits the London hot spots, after he's evicted.
 
 
Mike Modular
21:15 / 27.06.07
Now, for whatever reasons, I've not yet got into this year's BB properly. However, today I was struck with BB/Barbenostalgia by a TV ad I saw for what would perhaps appear to be a greetings card company run by that Lesley from a few BBs ago. Behold, Moonpig.com!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:40 / 27.06.07
Yeah, that freaked me out, because the first time I saw a TV ad for them was during the launch for this BB!
 
 
Olulabelle
19:35 / 29.06.07
Which Lesley?

I've known about Moonpig for years and I didn't know it had anything to do with BB. I need a Lesley pic.

Also, I am very disappointed with Nicky's poor answer to Liam's, "I wouldn't like to marry a girl who'd slept with a lot of men." Because what she said was not, "Your sexist double-standards are not wanted around here." No, what she said was, "Oh, God no."
 
 
Alex's Grandma
22:35 / 29.06.07
I suppose. On the other hand, the hunky tree surgeon from the North East is now worth a hundred grand more than he was two weeks ago - what sort of young(ish) love-struck (ish) accounts exec from Watford is going to let her head stand in the way of her heart under those circumstances?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:21 / 02.07.07
Bloody hell, Jonathan's just left too!
 
 
Whisky Priestess
16:07 / 03.07.07
This is a shark:

~~~/\~~~

This is Big Brother 8:

BB8

This has been the last few weeks:


BB8 ~~~/\~~~


BB8
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BB8

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BB8
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~~~/\~~~ BB8


That is all.
 
 
haus of fraser
22:08 / 03.07.07
I'm slowly getting sucked in after a massive hangover on saturday meant watching a weeks worth in a day using the marvelous 'on demand' service that cable now offers.

The twins "psychpathic" moment was hilarious as was Brians quiz- "Brian, do lady's poo?". Even with Charlies rants and tantrums it seems a much less angry house than the last few years- and better for it too.

I'm a bit sad to see jonathan go- he's departure was genuinely sad and while he wasn't my favourite he was certainly pretty entertaining (his diary room put down of tracy was hilarious).

So Laura and Channelle up this week- who will be out? There's no clear favourite but i wouldn't be surprised if its the end of Chiggy...

thoughts folks?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
19:29 / 06.07.07
Ziggy's face is quite a study at the moment.

He's going to have to make up with Chanelle again, isn't he?
 
 
Olulabelle
12:11 / 07.07.07
I was fascinated by that look which so clearly said, "Christ, I'm going to have to live with this girl for another week." because it was instantly followed by him telling her that he could tell who'd nominated her because their faces said, "Christ, I'm going to have to live with this girl for another week".

Projection, much?

Plus also, Copey, please don't fall for the twins gimmick of pink tinged stupidity.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:21 / 07.07.07
Oh, come on, that "psychopathic" thing was AWESOME.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
21:32 / 15.07.07
I'm not sure if the producers have had to re-hire the people who used to edit the highlights (if so, I hope it was punitively expensive) or if it's to do with something else, but finally, this is beginning to seem like it's worth watching.

Tragic, vain Ziggy, now trapped in a nominations suicide pact with Chanelle - he never intended things to go quite this far, surely?

All Chanelle wanted was to marry somebody nice, ghost-write a column for the Evening Standard, and have warm chicken, rocket and goats cheese salad for lunch every day for the rest of her life. It's not too much to ask for. But now she's in this hell.

Carole and Brian, both equally loathsome 'common sense' voices, are now beginning to think they might win. In this respect Carole at least seems fairly deluded, although it would be excellent if the wheels came off the Brian-mobile. He's not as obnoxious as 'Perfect Pete', yet, but at this point he's shaping up well, and there are presumably another couple of months to go.

Charley might be the first housemate to OD within a year of eviction. This in spite of 'the love' she was shown by the GBP when she left - there was a point, quite early on post re-entry, when she stopped clowning around with regard to the 'I Heart Charley' photos on sticks, and actually began to believe they were out there, her public. It's not going to end well. Even in terms of being a car crash sleb, Charley seems incapable of taking whatever mininal PR direction Jade Goody sat still for, before the fall.

Lots of time for Gerry, though. According to some on Digital Spy he be the spawn of Satan, his reflection disappear in the mirror, and so on, but I think he's acting much the same way any rational human being might do, under very trying circumstances.
 
  

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