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Doctor Who Season 3 - SPOILERS

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03:44 / 02.04.07

By the way, I really like the new assistant, far more than Rose. I thought she came across as bright and adventurous, more realistic than overawed. She seemed like a companion rather than a love interest and I'm really looking forward to seeing more of her.

Oh for heaven's sake ... why would the Doctor invite his new assistant into his space-travel/timeship if he didn't want to have her, right there, over the TARDIS console?

As far as I'm know the Doctor didn't get to have an intimate, sexual, moment with Rose, so I think it stands to reason that this time round he'd choose someone a bit more broad-minded, really, to help him out against the sexless robot things that he always seems to be fighting against.

11:27 / 02.04.07

I'm gratefied that Stephen Moffat is going to be doing the doctorless episode this time because, on the strength of his past efforts, if anyone is going to pull off an interesting and engaging story here, it's going to be him.

Moffat's episode (Blink) should be fantastic, hopefully. This thread is spoiler enabled now, so I post this without fear of shoutyness; The episode is rumoured to feature a lot more of Martha and the Doctor than Love and Monsters featured the main characters. From trailers and speculation, it seems to be a haunted house episode, with the Doctor delivering instructions to those within the house via a video link, I think.

Other than that, there really isn't much known about the episode, or many of the other episodes this season. Despite all the talk of Saxon being the Master, there is really very little to actually confirm that. Simm's Life on Mars co-stars indicated that he is the Master, but there's a good chance they could have been taking the piss. Spoilers and episode details are really thin on the ground this year, in comparison with this time last year, where those who wanted to know how the finalé would pan out, could find the pertinent details quite easily.

Tryphena Absent

12:02 / 02.04.07

Oh for heaven's sake ... why would the Doctor invite his new assistant into his space-travel/timeship if he didn't want to have her, right there, over the TARDIS console?

Is that your motivation in finding people to hang out in the retirement home with you granny?

19:56 / 02.04.07

Well no, but it's a retirement community. Plus, I'm sort of stuck here, you know?

The Doctor, on the other hand, as a rolling stone in the space/time continuum can do whatever he likes.

In the Doctor's position, actually, I'd have discussed a few ground rules, but I suppose that's why his adventures are on terrestrial television, and mine aren't.

20:05 / 02.04.07

Perhaps you would prefer the 18 rated adventures of Doctor Screw granny...

miss wonderstarr

07:15 / 15.04.07

So, the "arc-word", Saxon, has appeared in one episode out of three, this season. Does that start to question its supposed status as an "arc-word"? Were Bad Wolf and Torchwood referenced in almost every episode of seasons 1 and 2?

09:23 / 15.04.07

You could argue that the reason that 'arc-words' aren't in every episode is that they don't have to be, or perhaps that it isn't about words, but concepts and this time round its about the other timelord who may or may not be Saxon.

miss wonderstarr

09:50 / 15.04.07

True, the other Time Lord was mentioned this episode, and I'm assuming Saxon is his pseudonym.

17:32 / 15.04.07

Re watching the trailer for next week's episode I noticed that aside from dalek Sec we didn't get a clear look at the daleks, which prompts me to ask if the daleks in manhatten are going to be slightly redesigned in the art deco style hinted on various websites.

I also noticed a vaguely dalek motif in the door designs...

17:37 / 15.04.07

DALEK SEK! WITH! A! K!

GRAMMARATE!

17:43 / 15.04.07

According to the BBC website, it's Dalek Sec.

Regrettable Juvenilia

09:12 / 16.04.07

Interview with Mr Saxon.

TCE: We know little about your family or personal life Mr. Saxon. Some claim you're covering something up.

MS (laughs) Now, why would they think that? That I'm, perhaps, not who I say I am? (laughs) Nonsense. I merely feel that the details of my life aren't important when compared with serious issues that involve the future of our country.

TCE: But, surely it would put people at ease. To know that you're...

MS: Human? (laughs)

TCE: Well, in a way - just so they can relate. If you spoke of your family...parents, a sister, a brother...

MS: "A brother"? (laughs) Well...there's nothing really to tell. Really - there is nothing to tell.

11:23 / 16.04.07

Unsubstantiated rumour mill monkeys told me there's a possibility that the TARDIS that picked up Cap. Jack at the end of Torchwood wasn't The Doctor's.

11:56 / 16.04.07

Yeah, I've heard that too ES, but I also read an interview that RTD gave with either DWM or SFX (can't remember which at the moment) that it was definitely the Doctor's TARDIS. Of course, he would say that.

This week's Radio Times has a great big honking spoiler on the front of some sort of Hybrid Dalek wearing a suit.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

12:41 / 16.04.07

God, it comes out earlier each week, I remember when the RT came out on Thursdays I think it was...

The last five minutes of DWC seem to be increasingly spoiler-friendly for the following week.

Nina, PM me if you want me to burn you some DVDs of the episodes.

12:55 / 16.04.07

there's a possibility that the TARDIS that picked up Cap. Jack at the end of Torchwood wasn't The Doctor's.

Captain Jack Harkness in SEX SLAVE OF THE SAXON!

An erotic science-thriller.

16:02 / 16.04.07

Barrowman/Simm Tardis!kink?!?

*Zan go boom*

16:07 / 16.04.07

The RT isn't actually out yet, Our Lady, but the cover image has been released.

For the spoiler inclined, here it is.

Daleks as metaphor for mafia in 1930s NY, extrapolated into a metaphor for human corruption? All tying in with the emergent theme this season of what it means to be human, of what defines human nature.

Really psyched for Daleks in Manhattan and Evolution of the Daleks.

07:47 / 17.04.07

I think that Saxon interview is a bit naff, personally. I mean, he's meant to be a massively popular politician - but he sits there throughout the interview going 'moo hoo ha ha! Family? I have no family...I am mysterious....woooooooo spooky....moo hoo ha ha!' One feels that's unlikely to bring in masses of votes.

Also: would it kill them to give the opposing candidate a name?

13:40 / 17.04.07

It would be nice if Harriet Jones was running to retain her leadership, but alas, I doubt we'd be lucky enough for that. She could eventually redeem herself in the Doctor's eyes, like Novice Hame did.

20:57 / 18.04.07

I just think that a washed up, ex-PM Harriet Jones would be quite an interesting character to revisit - especially as a contrast to the anti-alien rhetoric of Saxon.

07:47 / 24.04.07

Hmm. So far all the episodes have had at least something to do with racial/species purity and people not being as pure as they appear:

Episode One - Judoon isolate hospital on moon, and search for plasmavore by scanning people genetically to see if they're human. Both the plasmavore and the Doctor fool the Judoon by swapping DNA with humans in various ways.

Episode Two - not much in this besides Martha's comment about not fitting in, but was one of the three witches human or half-human/half-witchything, or something? Not sure, but I got the impression the two sisters were different from her.

Episode Three - Cat-person/human hybrid babies, plus the undercity being separated off to keep it pure and away from the virus. Sealed off from the diverse undercity, the aristocracy of NNY die. Also, we have the Maccra devolving from having an empire to being, basically, a bunch of pesky space crabs.

Episode Four - Pig-men. Dalek/human hybrids. Solomon in Hooverville talking about what it means to be human, etc.

Based on all this, I have a theory about who Saxon/The Master will turn out to be. Tennant hinted in a recent DWC that the Dr is right about being the last timelord, but the Face of Boe is right about him not being alone - in a way, they're both right. So my theory is: Saxon is the son of the Master. We know the Doctor had kids, so why not the Master, too? Only he doesn't really know his history. He thinks he's a human, fighting the aliens at their own game. The arrival of the doctor, however, will lead to his downfall as he is exposed as half-alien himself to his Xenophobic followers and his campaign crashes and burns.

Probably wildly wrong here, mind.

08:47 / 24.04.07

Would actually make more "sense" in Russel T's Doctor Who. It has a more logical and progress theme. I get the impression their also "killing" the Darleks or maybe splintering them off to evlove into a new form entirly .

I think it would make far more sense for teh Master to be retired (i mean he is "dead" as far as regenerations go ). And would be nice for the doctor to actually lose a enemy for a change !!

10:46 / 24.04.07

Velvet Vandal, you and Iamus are my most favourite speculators.

10:51 / 24.04.07

This is pretty spoilerish stuff that I'm about to post, so if you must: Look away!

I think that everybody has probably correctly spotted the main theme for the season, what it means to be human, etc..

The Master, without a regeneration cycle, has taken the body of a human called Mr. Saxon. He is a time-Lord, trapped in a human body, yearning to have his own body again.

We know that he's probably going to be out to get the Doctor and will probably want to migrate to his body, obtaining his remaining regenerations and time-lord physiology.

The Doctor, post Human Nature, will presumably be very down and out after what will probably be a less than pleasant ending for that story. He will have been forced to return to his Time Lord form, leaving his new family behind. It's possible that he'll still be yearning to have a human life for the rest of the season, isn't it?

This creates an interesting dichotomy. Master yearning for Time-Lordyness, Doctor pining for humanity. The Doctor might be forced to choose in the finalé, which form he wants to take forever. Become a human, live a relatively normal life, or stay as the Doctor and save the universe.

Anyway, this is all speculatory stuff. For all I know, Human Nature might turn out perfectly happy, with the Doctor's wife tagging along in the TARDIS. Doubt it though.

Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!

11:21 / 24.04.07

For some reason, I thought DC Tyler would turn out to be Boggleheads brother...

11:46 / 24.04.07

IF Saxon is the master can we just have the sterotypical gloating speech from the master , inturrupted midflow from a response from The Doctors "fighting" hand .
WOuld be very theroputic for a man who had to fire bomb his own planet and race into oblivion (and propably quite funny to watch).

Lets spin it for a change , have the doctor fully aware of teh masters plans but stringing him along

12:02 / 24.04.07

I think Gene Hunt would have been better as The Master.

18:54 / 24.04.07

What I'd like is for Saxon to pop up in, say, ep 6 and then be a Buffyesque 'big bad' figure, with the rest of the series chronicling the Doc and Martha's battle against him, rather than having him just be the villain for the final two-parter.

21:33 / 24.04.07

RTD has stated in his production notes in DWM that Saxon is the paymaster of Mark Gatiss' Doctor Lazarus. As The Lazarus Experiment is indeed episode 6, velvetvandal, there is a possibility that Saxon will be a shadowy figure during that episode.

21:54 / 24.04.07

Hmmmm Lazerus experiment.... life extending research funded by Mr Saxon....

Mr Saxon possibly the Master...

The Master has run out of regenerations...

22:09 / 24.04.07

And doesn't the name "Lazarus" carry the same pretentious tone like the vast majority of Time Lord names- Drax, Flavia, The Castellan, Borusa, The Inquisitor. Lazarus doesn't look too out of place among those titles. While it might not be too likely that he turns out to be a Time Lord, the name and his experiment might get the Doctor thinking about his people and whether or not they really are dead.

Imaginary Mongoose Solutions

23:08 / 24.04.07

"I think Gene Hunt would have been better as The Master."

"Give it up, Doctor. You're surrounded by armed time traveling bastards!"

Oh yes, indeed. That'd work just fine.

You know, with all the speculation regarding Saxon and life enhancement... possible reasons for the end of season return of Cap'n Jack Hawtness arise. Assuming he's still immortal.... which he may very well not be.

23:29 / 24.04.07

Perhaps, in the preview, the Lazarus machine wasn't making the guy younger. Perhaps it was killing him...

18:10 / 25.04.07

The latest batch of New Series Adventures featuring the 10th Doctor and Martha seem to be dancing around mentioning Saxon explicitly. There is an interesting moment in Martin Day's "Wooden Heart," where the Doctor is explaining to a young girl how siblings never grow up to behave remotely the same.

"Two children, brought up in similar circumstanes don't end up as the same person! Your personality is the sum of everything that's happened to you, yes - but also of every decision you've made."

This is mentioned just after a brief reminiscence about his past, so it could very well be an oblique reference to his brother (as mentioned in Smith and Jones), who could very well turn out to be the Master.

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