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Doctor Who Season 3 - SPOILERS

  
  

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Evil Scientist
18:47 / 16.06.07
Chan tissue compression eliminator tho!
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
18:52 / 16.06.07
Did anyone notice that the drums Professor Xorn had heard all his life was the same rhythm Mister SaXorn taps out on the desk in that trailer? AHA!

Do people think the Master took the disc from that computer just so that the Doctor and Martha couldn't get to Utopia, or is there some interesting stuff set in the far future to do with the Master's plan as well? Note that RTD said in Confidential that we're not done with the Face of Boe - who was last seen protecting and shepherding humanity - maybe Utopia is him and he's responsible for the Doctor getting back to 2007? And is then taken to New Earth and dies there, making Blink quite important this season as well?
 
 
Evil Scientist
18:59 / 16.06.07
I suspect Jack's vortex manipulator may be what gets them back, with a little Doctor fiddling.
 
 
johnnymonolith
21:34 / 18.06.07
More spoilery goodness here courtesy of the Beeb:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/proginfo/tv/wk27/sat.shtml#sat_drwho
 
 
Lama glama
22:14 / 18.06.07
So, it was hinted at that Utopia exists beyond the universe. Could it be Gallifrey, existing out of sync with the 616 universe? The tag line for the season is "When two worlds collide." Could this mean Gallifrey and Earth? Could the Master be attempting to rip a hole in space and time with the help of the Toclafane in order to bring Gallifrey back, positioning himself as its new ruler. Could the sound of drums, the call to Utopia that Professor Yana had heard all of his life be a call from Gallifrey, a sort of psychic SOS. If it is, then why can't the Doctor hear it?

Is there somebody working above and beyond the Master this season, orchestrating events to return Gallifrey to the correct Universe? Rassilon? Omega?

Enough fanwank for now.
 
 
Triplets
19:18 / 21.06.07
Main beeb site updated. Looks great. Has anyone caught any of the trailers during daytime telly? They're class. The one with the kids chanting 'Go Harry! (it's your birthday, gonna party like it's etc)' is just the right mix of creepy, realistic and political-party-pandering-to-the-yoof.

Gonna start putting up VOTE SAXON posters around town.
 
 
Lama glama
19:20 / 21.06.07
The new homepage is definitely nice. There are some interesting things on that billboard. Looks like Laz Labs will play some part in the finalé along with one of Sally Sparrow's 17 DVDs.
There's a really cool pic of Doctor Dave in the gallery, wearing a watch maker's eye piece. Perhaps he's repairing somebody's fob watch/chameleon arch?
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
05:21 / 22.06.07
I would guess the Laz Labs thing is just the art department's work. As it seems that the Master is in possession of a perfectly satisfactory Time Lord body I'm not sure what his interest in Professor Lazarus' work was, other than perhaps it never hurts to have another source of immortality close to hand.
 
 
Triplets
08:27 / 22.06.07
The guy is big on the not-dying after all.

Perhaps he's repairing somebody's fob watch/chameleon arch?

I'm liking your thinking there, Llama. This season we've been shown The Doctor vacillating between horrendous death and horrendous imprisonment so perhaps someone's getting a life sentence as Harold Saxon, Psycho Primeminister and 100% Hoo-man.
 
 
iamus
13:27 / 22.06.07
Well I'm reckoning that Laz Labs is connected to The Doctor's severed hand, currently in possession of Mr. Saxon.


Nitpick...

The Doctor's not been aware of the Master because he's been in human form all this time. How come he didn't sense his fully Time-Lorded nemesis fucking about in the present day?

Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey most probably.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:39 / 22.06.07
Possible explanation: between whenever he arrived in present day UK and 'The Sound of Drums', the Master has the Tardis and Jack's Doctor detector. As we've seen, the Doctor detector goes off as early as when the Tardis starts to materialise nearby. Whenever the Doctor arrives in 2007, the Master hops in his own Tardis and fucks off far away in space and time.
 
 
Lama glama
16:39 / 22.06.07
Does that mean that there are two Doctor's hands occupying the same time? Jack has one during Saxon's election campaign (we see posters saying "Vote Saxon" during Torchwood's "Captain Jack Harkness."), so that must mean that Saxon has the same but not same hand at the same time.

Er, confusing.
 
 
Triplets
16:54 / 22.06.07
I was going to say it's okay if it's only objects with no consciousness or volition, but, we had two Billys in Blink, so that's not right. I think it's okay for the universe as long as people don't look at it too closely. Do you hate the universe Llama? Why do you hate the universe?
 
 
Lama glama
17:20 / 22.06.07
*headasplode*

i iz in ur unnyvurse

havin 2 doctors handz

etc.
 
 
slagar
18:00 / 22.06.07

so if there are two hands, does that mean there are two of the Doctors Tardis' during that time period?

i'm sure it's happened before, like maybe during the multiple Doctor stories, i don't remember the specfics of those shows, but wouldn't each one of the Doctor's incarnations have a Tardis?
 
 
Feverfew
19:55 / 22.06.07
Interesting theories, but none of them take into account the mental image I have of the Doctor making his own hands shake each other's hands. Brilliant!
 
 
Triplets
11:55 / 23.06.07
 
 
Triplets
12:01 / 23.06.07
We've already had timeloop stuff this season. In the first episode in fact with the Doctor and his tie and then Blink, so I'm thinking as long as no-one mucks about with the past-tense iteration of [thing] then that's alright.

Fanwank alert! What if the Doctor couldn't sense John Simm's Timelordyness because he has the hand close by, causing the Doctor to think he was just sensing his own genetic shadow? ("Oh, I must be off doing something else in this time period"). So it's not just a Doctor detector it's a Doctor thrower-offer.
 
 
iamus
16:18 / 23.06.07
Eeeeeeeennnnteresting.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
16:50 / 23.06.07
Sounds like the same reason Yoda was hanging out near the evil cave on Dagobah, the evil energy hid him from the prying eyes of the Emperor and Vader.
 
 
sleazenation
18:31 / 23.06.07
Hmmmmmm - sky opening up... Face of Boe?
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
18:33 / 23.06.07
So, do we want to talk split-open sky and who these little balls of murderous fun are?
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
18:33 / 23.06.07
Aaah you beat me to it.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
18:47 / 23.06.07
So, as the Master was apparently found by the Face of Boe after running away from Gallifrey (as, according to Phil Collinson in last weeks commentary, the place where Yana found was where Boe lived), and that apparent set up of 'You Are Not Alone', either The Face is trying to set up the Doctor (and possibly the Master) to fight these creatures of perhaps he's the evil mastermind behind it.
 
 
Triplets
18:57 / 23.06.07
Well, apparently, you need a lot of TARDIS power to open the rift to wherever the Toclafane come from.

Where else needs lots of TARDIS power to get to?

Maybe it's six billion human minds. Six billion human minds from a parallel world. Trapped inside the ultimate Cyberman shell.
 
 
sleazenation
19:56 / 23.06.07
Maybe they are what remains of the timelords...
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
20:13 / 23.06.07
Yeah, I thought it was a bit odd that we finally got to see Gallifrey and the Time Lords, when it wasn't absolutely necessary, to the storyline, so I did wonder whether the Master was planning to try and bring back the Time Lords, to make up for deserting them in The War but the whole thing of them being frightened sadistic alien globes with the same name as something scary from Time Lord history. Based on the whole 'what if Adam somehow survived far in to the future and brought back the Daleks to get revenge on the Doctor and so he's the Bad Wolf' type speculation at the end of season one I'm wary of overthinking what might just be a very simple story.

I still think the drumming is another message for the Doctor from the Face of Boe, it's just whether it's a good message or a bad message.
 
 
The Strobe
21:19 / 23.06.07
Dumb question: are we expecting a regeneration in the final episode? I wasn't aware it was on the cards, but it could make sense, narrative-wise...
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
06:35 / 24.06.07
I'm not expecting one and I would hope not as, though I expect David Tennant must be knackered I think there is still more for his Doctor to do. If the persistant rumours that the show will finish after season four turn out to be accurate he might be staying on until then.
 
 
Lama glama
12:27 / 24.06.07

Hmmmmmm - sky opening up... Face of Boe?

Didn't we already have the sky crack open at the end of Gridlock, when the metal roof of the undercity opened? I'm pretty certain we're going to get some Face of Boe shenanigans, though. I really don't want the Doctor to regenerate next week, and I'm sure he won't, but nothing major has leaked from this year's finale (whereas in the previous two years, we knew Billie and Eccleston were leaving).
 
 
sleazenation
13:14 / 24.06.07
It was just the way RTD mentioned the sky opening up on the commentary linking it with the opening up of the skyways in Gridlock it works, but isn't quite as spectacular...

And yeah - I can't imagine that RTD wouldn'thave spotted the similarity of the sky opening up twice in the same season without intending to do something with it...
 
 
iamus
23:19 / 24.06.07
nothing major has leaked from this year's finale

Well Simm as The Master is one, but that was early doors and I don't suppose there was any way of keeping that one in. The talk surrounding Agyeman being axed makes you wonder if it was just gossip or if she was ever intended to make it past this season.
 
 
A fall of geckos
05:29 / 25.06.07
"The talk surrounding Agyeman being axed makes you wonder if it was just gossip or if she was ever intended to make it past this season."

What with all the nonlinear storytelling this season, I wouldn't be surprised if she ultimately changes time to prevent herself meeting the Doctor.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
05:53 / 25.06.07
That makes a lot of sense... the "undoing their meeting" thing. But I can't see them doing it. I can see see some time tomfoolery going on, especially w/the decimation and all that, BUT...

To unmake the whole Season? I know I'd cry foul.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
09:48 / 25.06.07
WRT A 'decimation', what's tended to happen in the past is that you see quite a few people getting killed, then afterwards it's as though those were the only few people that were killed, it does seem after the whole 'Torchwood' thing as though the Daleks and Cybermen didn't actually kill that many people beyond the ones that were in Torchwood Tower.
 
  

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