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Lurid Archive
16:18 / 01.10.06
I'm starting this thread to provide some kind of outlet for the current argument principally between paranoidwriter and Haus. I'm hoping that this will mean that other threads, in particular in the policy, will be able to function more smoothly since complaints about the behaviour of other posters can be put here instead of contributing to threadrot in the thread itself.

Maybe we will use this thread in the future if we need it, but for now would paranoidwriter and Haus (and anyone else) like to explain their grievances, and what they would like others to change in their behaviour?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:31 / 01.10.06
I think I already have, to my own satisfaction, Lurid. I would also take issue with your editorial representation that this is conflict is principally between Paranoidwriter and myself: a number of members and moderations have in the recent past atttempted to engage with PW about his behaviour, most recently Randy and before that Mordant Carnival, Fred, Quantum, Flyboy and Illmatic, to name but a few.

Short version - the absence of moderator-judged banning, exclusion from specific fora or temporary suspension of suits means that one person with enough time on their hands and some problems with interacting with others in profitable ways can effectively choke the policy with bindweed. Paranoidwriter has been doing this recently, and is becoming increasingly rude and aggressive to people who are trying to keep Barbelith functioning. Since so far PW has undertaken in the last month to leave Barbelith about three times, to leave the Policy about twice and to make only three posts a day (that lasted about three posts), it seems his need to post here may be pathological rather than a matter of personal choice, but the negative consequneces of his behaviour, his demands for attention and his apparent tendency to make up or imagine statements by other people that were never actually made to justify an escalation of hostilities (see here, where he becomes very aggressive in response to a suggestion that his friend does not exist that was never actually made) are currently making Barbelith an unpleasant place and making it very hard to get anything done in the Policy.

So, this is not a "conflict between posters". It is a question of the good function of Barbelith. The good function of Barbelith is not served by letting people get their own way by volume of posts or by threats and insults - see Modzero and innercircle for examples of how this has been dealt with in the past.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
16:51 / 01.10.06
Here's how I see this present situation; as simply as possible.


Differences between Haus and I:

Haus: believes he is usually right.

PW: believes he is often wrong.


How we argue:

Haus: with weapons and exclusion.

PW: Counting coup and inclusion.


Haus needs to bring others into the fray. PW likes to try and keep people out of harms way.


We are two sides of the same coin: Yin and Yang (if you like).


Check? Cheque? Checkmate?

X
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
17:02 / 01.10.06
I'd like to see any evidence of "believes he is often wrong" - humility's a great thing to think you have if you want to feel better about yourself. How about the example above of you telling Randy to fuck off for claiming that your friend didn't exist? Can you show us where he did this? If not, would you like to apologise to him?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
17:03 / 01.10.06
I think that pretty much sums the entire thing up, actually. Haus is prepared to expend time and energy explaining and trying to figure out a solution to this, you're more about finding any way to continue the conflict that you can.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
17:09 / 01.10.06
And what are you doing Randyo? Playing tig/tag?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
17:44 / 01.10.06
Lurid: but for now would paranoidwriter and Haus (and anyone else) like to explain their grievances

I wondered how long it'd be before we started to touch on the clique thing. Because, naturally, everybody who agrees with Haus on this one must be doing so because they're chummy chumchums with him and have his back all the time.

PW, as I've already stated, I believe that you're actively causing damage to the board by your continued antics in Policy. Lots and lots of other people have also expressed this concern. Most of them have been remarkably patient with you, and yet you've either chosen to ignore them, adopt their comments into your peculiar worldview or else respond to them with a stream of abuse.

There's at least one highly valuable member of the board who has publically stated that your behaviour is one of the primary reasons for his departure from the board. You've been placed on ignore by at least two others.

Despite this, you are for some reason of the opinion that the problem here is Haus. Do you not think that if that were the case, they'd be identifying him as such and not you?

What's actually happening is that Haus is one of the few people on the board who bothers to tackle problem posters such as yourself head-on - most just ignore them and hope they'll go away. And don't be under any illusions about this - right now, you are a problem poster, to the extent that I'm very seriously considering proposing a ban, because you have repeatedly demonstrated an inability to function here. All that's holding me back right now is that other people - including, astonishngly, Haus himself - believe that there's still a chance that you might actually pay attention to some of the very good advice that's been offered to you in Policy over the last couple of weeks and turn the situation around before that becomes necessary.

For the record, I don't think you're capable of anything of the sort - you've certainly not demonstrated the ability to stand back and examine your own actions up until this point and your two posts to this very thread only back that up. I'd quite like to be surprised, but I seldom am. I fully expect there to come a point in this thread, possibly not too far in the future, where somebody says something completely innocuous and you react by spewing a torrent of abuse at them. That appears to be how you deal with anybody who questions you.

So I'll repeat: I believe you are a problem on the board that needs solving in one way or the other. I'm not fussed how. This thread is not just for you to continue to rant about how Haus is being an awful meanie to you. You've just accused him of bringing others "into the fray" when, in fact, it should be clear to any casual observer that he's entirely correct to do so - Lurid seems not to understand what, precisely, has been happing around here recently. I'll do the same: Others who've questioned your behaviour in Policy recently include toksik, Flowers, Smoothly, Anna, Mister Disco and Lula. Sheer weight of numbers ought to be setting off warning signs in your head, alerting you to the fact that you're clearly doing something wrong here in order to be either annoying or baffling all of these people at the same time, but that's not what's happening - instead, it's all about how Haus is out to get you.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
18:08 / 01.10.06
The other thing I want to say about this "tig/tag" rubbish is that it's fairly decent evidence of your current inability to frame any kind of consistent argument on the board. First you attack Haus for bringing other people up, then when one of those other people posts to the thread themselves to confirm that, yes, they do share his point of view on this one, you try and make out that they're simply ganging up on you. You're shifting the goalposts every single time your lack of logic lets you down and effectively guaranteeing that anybody who's in agreement with Haus on this issue is on a lose/lose.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
18:44 / 01.10.06
It's also perhaps worth pointing out that, as with most trollish behaviour, PW tends to concentrate on arguing with those he considers most insulting and ignoring any voices of moderation. In the hopes that the latest spat can actually be solved by facts and logic, perhaps PW could look at this and be reassured that no-one is going to be able to find his friend simply by being told that they live in Hackney.

If 'paranoid writer' is not merely a nickname then it is up to him to decide whether it is safe for him to post on an open board like Barbelith.
 
 
HCE
19:40 / 01.10.06
PW, I have taken you off ignore because I don't think it's fair to talk to you if you can't talk back, not that you have yet replied to my post here:

http://barbelith.com/topic/24716/from/175#post636429

-- so I don't know whether you even have any interest in talking to me. I am speaking now only for myself, and not in concert with or on behalf of anybody else.

Your constant repetition of the same patterns of behavior is exhausting to me.

Even when I have you on ignore, I read the responses of others to you, and it is a distressing experience.

You do not construct arguments, you just keep hinting and alluding and saying things that make no sense, and trying to follow the convolutions of your thinking is draining.

Your obsession with Haus is starting to look creepy to me and I wish that he would put you on ignore because frankly I think he is doing you a disservice by acknowledging you at all.

I think that so long as he feeds you any attention you will never let it drop and I know that his sense of fair play prevents him from simply dismissing you rather than continuing to try to explain what's going wrong and how it might be set right.

If a move was made to ban you, I would unhappily support it.

I would be unhappy about it because I do not think you are malicious; I would support it because I think you are a substantial drain and disturbance.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
20:11 / 01.10.06
Our Lady, do you believe in Nominative Determinism? I started a thread which was kind of about that, many, many, moons ago... I think it was probably my first thread...


Randyo, please go back and read that thread from where YOU started the ball rolling by suggesting that my reasons (which were "privacy" and "immediacy") were sourced from "stupidity" or some other equally insulting word like "neutering", etc. Please, try reading those posts 1- 5 times and pretend I'm in a different emotional state each time you read it. e.g. PW is angry; PW is laughing; PW is giving as good a ze gets.... etc.

Then remember how you felt when you typed your particular contributions.

Then do the same with Haus' posts as you did with mine.

Oh, and note the language used, the EXACT words used, as well, eh?

Go on.... Just for me. Please?



Fred, you've never really clicked with me either, have you. Do you want me to provide even more links so EVERYONE can SEE?



Barbelith: as a concept I LOVE U. I think you already know that, but may be forgetting.



SO STOP BRANDING LIFE-FORMS!


One can do that for oneself, thanks.


One Love.

  
 
Spatula Clarke
20:29 / 01.10.06
I like that Fred is also now dragged into your little consipracy theory. Is there *anybody* who's going to be able to talk sense to you without you trying to make out that they've always had a hate-on for you? Because, if not, you may as well just leave. If you're not a troll, I honestly don't understand what you've got to gain from being present on the board any longer.
 
 
Lugue
20:37 / 01.10.06
If it helps, pw, I too, who mostly lurk and little more, and have had no more than a small amicable exchange with you, think you're being a b-i-t of a wanker and really ought to engage with people appropriately in this thread, seriously, directly and fully, for your own sake in terms of your presence on Barbelith (and how people relate to it) if nothing else.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
21:16 / 01.10.06
STOP BRANDING ME OR I WILL START LABELLING YOU!
 
 
Olulabelle
21:19 / 01.10.06
PW, I agree with that too.

Perhaps you can use this thread as a way to resolve the situation you find yourself in. It would help you, I think, if you were to try and engage with what people are saying without being quite so cryptic.

I think you should probably apologise to Haus and to Randy.

You say that you like Barbelith and want to stay an active member but at the moment you don't seem to be doing anything to show that. You seem to be doing the opposite. I don't want to see you banned, so I would advise you to try and rethink the way you are posting at the moment.
 
 
Olulabelle
21:28 / 01.10.06
OK, as I wrote the above post you posted your 'stop branding me' post.

I meant that I agree with Franca Folia.

PW, all you are doing by responding like that is giving people the evidence they need to suggest you shouldn't be posting on the board. You are not helping yourself at all.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
21:33 / 01.10.06
I know. I'm one of the few who isn't "helping" only themselves.

D'ya ged me?
 
 
Lurid Archive
21:42 / 01.10.06
paranoidwriter: In your position I would pause a little while in the face of the criticism you are getting. People are talking about banning here, and I don't think it is meant lightly. Also, Haus is right to criticise my opening post since it isn't just an argument between you and him - I was trying to write an opening that would give you, pw, a chance to count to ten.

Let me try a little while longer....Do you understand, pw, why many people here in P&H feel that you are being disruptive? Do you acknowledge it?

In response, I guess you are going to say that Haus and others baited you....but at some point you are probably going to have to accept that you won't "click" with some people. If its personal atagonism that doesn't rise to the level of bullying, then there isn't much any of us can do. Can you cope with that? (If you feel you are being bullied, then you should be more lucid about explaining what you feel is the problem, since convincing others is really your only option.)
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
21:51 / 01.10.06
PW: Please, please, please will you have a go of that much-vaunted mirror and try to understand why it is that people might be cross and shouting at you, other than Them being Horrid and you being Nice and Misunderstood. PLEASE.

I'm starting to think that we need a new tag, somewhat like the PICS tag but indicating a thread that has been eaten by Paranoid Writer Versus the Board. Something like THREAD OF PAIN. The Moderation Requests thread is now a thread OF PAIN. This thread is likewise a thread OF PAIN. You have pretty much singlehandedly turned the entire Policy from a forum of interest into a forum OF PAIN.

I don't hate you, I don't want to see you booted off the board, or even to feel unwelcome. I just want you to stop shouting for five minutes together and try to understand why it is that you're getting such a negative response, and how you might work with the other board members to resolve this situation.
 
 
The Strobe
22:11 / 01.10.06
To re-iterate what others have said so far, but perhaps in different terms:

your behaviour and language in this thread is not helping you, nor anyone else. Rather than speaking with your tounge in your cheek or any other orifice, and rather than riding the CAPS LOCK TIGER, I suggest that for now - in the Policy - you speak plainly. Sarcasm, "jokes", finger-pointing and over-defensiveness are going to get you nowhere.

The matters we're discussing are serious, as Lurid points out. Whatever your behaviour elsewhere, your behaviour in P&H is pretty much singularly disruptive and has obstructed progress - and diverted threads - on many occasions.

So I ask you that before you fire off any more pithy one-liners, or drop any more mindbombs, or spout any more hippyish drivel: stop, think, and ask yourself if what will appear when you hit "post" is of any relevance, and if it will contribute in anyway.

Right now, you're acting like a troll. "Troll" does not just mean anti-semite, sexist, violent, or offensive; it's just someone who has nothing to offer a community and goads it on purpose. Whatever your content elsewhere may be, your behaviour is becoming increasingly troll-like, and I would advise you to stop it before anyone takes action to stop you.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
22:43 / 01.10.06
Hmmm... interesting responses...

"banning"?... My answer: is that supposed to scare me? I'll still be here, afterall. Unless, of course, you go back and delete ALL my posts. I can't imagine you would, though.

Oh, and by the way, have ANY OF YOU taken MY feelings into acount or those of my two friends into consideration, or are you too bothered with making this as YOU have made it?

e.g. STOP BRANDING ME!
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
22:44 / 01.10.06
Oy.

What I haven't seem so far from PW is even an acknowledgement of this:

I'd like to see any evidence of "believes he is often wrong" - humility's a great thing to think you have if you want to feel better about yourself. How about the example above of you telling Randy to fuck off for claiming that your friend didn't exist? Can you show us where he did this? If not, would you like to apologise to him?

Possibly I'm taking the wrong tack, here, but a lot of PW's ire seems to be directed at, for want of a better word, hallucinations of what other people have said. It's the inability to confront the possibility that he is making up reasons to be angry with people which is, I think, the problem.

Hence our PM exchange. I believe that I was inspired to send him a Private Message by PW's demand that I propose that he be banned, and/or move to Private Messages. I reproduce the correspondence with his permission, secured here. Ny words in bold, his in italics, commentary in standard text.

I am not going to start a thread discussing your banning unless and until it becomes necessary. At the moment I am trying my hardest to create a situation in which a discussion about whether or not to ban you does not become necessary. You appear to be intent on frustrating my attempts at pretty much every turn.

I am quite seriously trying to help you here, PW, as are the many people who have taken the time to explain to you why your recent behaviour in the Policy is unhelpful and hostile to Barbelith. I am quite sure that you do not believe that you are doing it \"wilfully\" - that is, that your intention is not specifically hostile to Barbelith - but that really doesn\'t matter. Please just read what people have said to you.

No idea what was going on with the slashes, there - my touch typing is t3h sux00r. PW responds:

I am not going to start a thread discussing your banning unless and until it becomes necessary. At the moment I am trying my hardest to create a situation in which a discussion about whether or not to ban you does not become necessary. You appear to be intent on frustrating my attempts at pretty much every turn.

I am quite seriously trying to help you here, Haus, as are the many people who have taken the time to explain to you why your recent behaviour in the Policy is unhelpful and hostile to Barbelith. I am quite sure that you do not believe that you are doing it "wilfully" - that is, that your intention is not specifically hostile to Barbelith - but that really doesn't matter. Please just read what people have said to you.

Plus, I like you Haus. You're smarter than me. I've told you this, over and over. But stay out of my mind. If you want to know what I feel and think, ask. I may tell you. And how could you possibly know what everyone around here is thinking, eh? Are you commnicating about me behind my back or are you omniscient or none of the above?

If you like, I could send you another PM telling you how I think you are different from I. Would you like that?

Frankly, slightly annoying., I should probably have stopped there. But I didn't. Blame birthday enthusiasm:

And how could you possibly know what everyone around here is thinking, eh?

I know what some people around here are saying, because I read their posts. I have suggested that you do likewise.

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24716/from/140#post636243

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24716/from/140#post636251

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24716/from/140#post636288

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24716/from/140#post636331

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24716/from/140#post636349

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24716/from/175#post636429

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24834/from/105#post637272

I never said "everyone", and I have no idea why you have made up in your head the thought that I ever claimed to know "what everyone around here is thinking". If you make things up in your head that I have not said, you will, I'm afraid, not be able to respond in a useful way to what I actually have said.

Hence my request that you read what people are saying to you, and why simply parroting my words back to me, as well as being rude and disrespectful - as have your contributions to Policy been pretty much solidly for some time now (ans this is not a commentary on what you feel or think, but on what you do) - is neither helpful nor relevant.

That's a sample of what people are saying to you in public. Private conversations about you are precisely that - private.

Once again, I suggest that you stay out of the Policy, because the other option - behaving in the Policy in a useful or socially acceptable fashion - does not appear on past evidence to be something that you are going to do, whether through capacity or volition. I fear that this is going to create an unhappy situation, which I would like to avoid.

Regards,

T.

Note that PW has hallucinated a claim on my part that I know what everyone here is thinking. This becomes a bit of a problem.

I will no longer respond to you, Haus. You are rude and condescending to people of other cultures. But you are blind to your own faults. I cannot help you SEE anymore.

You might need to listen to some Gil Scott Heron or (Little) Esther. Your soul is obviously hurting and (believe it or not) it's not me who's sticking the sword in.

Good bye and fair ye well.

I aint leaving Barbelith.

Love,

p.w

I was a little taken aback by the idea that I could become culturally sensitive by listening to some Gil Scott-Heron, but of course some of PW's best friends are oh God kill me now. Note that he has also at this point imagined somehow that I have told him to leave Barbelith. It is this delusional process that I think is one of PW's main problems, and I attempted to address it, thus:

I aint leaving Barbelith.

If you can find one place where I tell you to, I will leave myself. If you keep telling lies to yourself about what poeple have said, you will never be able to have an honest relationship with them.

PW's response:

Haus, does it have to be me and/or you?

Look up TUP. And then check out my new threads. I put it on for you. Because I'm sick of fighting in these firty old clothes. I'll even take 'em off if you will do likewise. We both stink right now; and it's turning into another bear-wrestle already.

And I think we should both stay. An that we should both work together tohelp others, as they should work to help us, non?

If you give more new people a break, I'll give you a break. Cool?

I need the loo, again.

Love,

p.w

x (<---- that's my symbol, right there; it means a lot, eh?)


Remains largely inexplicable. I should probably have given up then, but I really thought that if I could get him to confront these hallucinations once, perhaps he could them start to look at the rest of his behaviour:


Haus, does it have to be me and/or you?

No. that's why I asked you to give me one example of when I said you should leave Barbelith. I'm still waiting for that.

Response:

Erm.... Think about the Timing of your posts last night... For starters...

I'm not linking anymore. I want to link arms; but this is the Interweb.

So stop making it personal, you div. You can have the prize money and teh championship. I don't need 'em.

But you know the rules: play straight or let everyone else be bent as well.

X


Not really ontopic.

I am still waiting for you to provide one exmaple of my telling you to leave Barbelith. If you cannot provide one, then I suggest you apologise.

I should have given up by now, I realise. It was very late, however...

PW's response continues the fixation on chess players, but is largely unhelpful.

I am still waiting for you to provide one exmaple of my telling you to leave Barbelith. If you cannot provide one, then I suggest you apologise.

Cheque? Check?

You find one.



xo%?-+X=/* (and other Universal Symbols and mnemes)


Not a clue.

Just one example, PW. That will prove that you actually read Barbelith, rather than respond to things you have made up in your head. While we're at it, I warned you against making things up in your head earlier, and I don't think you've provided evidence of any actual proof of the statement you made up in your head there having existed outside your head either.

If you have in fact been telling lies to me and to yourself, that's fine; we all have our moments. All you'd need to do would be to apologise and to try to do better in future.

PW's response is short, if not sweet.

Are you a lier, Haus?

Still not quite what I was looking for.

Well, if you can find an example of me telling you to leave Barbelith, or of me claiming to know what everybody thinks, then I am clearly mistaken, and will acknowledge such. If you cannot, then I am probably not mistaken in my belief that you are making things up that better suit your personal agenda. If you insist on acting as if such things exist when they do not, then you are a liar, to yourself.

Reading and understanding Barbelith will help any member to contribute in a valuable and worthwhile fashion. No lie.

Again, PW's response seems to skip a few steps:

No lie

Then prove it.

Thought crime, remember?

Not exactly the textual reference I was hoping for, but a 1984 reference, which counts for a lot

Prove that reading and understanding Barbelith will help any member to contribute in a worthwhile fashion? Of course:

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24716/from/140#post636243

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24716/from/140#post636251

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24716/from/140#post636288

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24716/from/140#post636331

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24716/from/140#post636349

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24716/from/175#post636429

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24834/from/105#post637272


Now, I am still waiting for you to give me a reference to me telling you to leave Barbelith or claiming to know what everyone on Barbelith thought. Or an apology for telling lies to me and to yourself, and an undertaking to think before telling such lies in the future. Surely you weren't presuming to read my mind? I know how much you hate that...


It occurs to me, on reflection, that at this point PW may just be reading the last sentence of each PM and responding to that, as once again we have:

I know how much you hate that...

I hope you do. But you're not given me enough signs to believe it, I'm afraid.

Nevermind.

THIS Game is Over.

X

Again, short on the textual references.


It isn't a game, PW. It's me trying to establish whether you can stand to admit you made a mistake, and whether you will for preference become rude and abusive. this, by the way, is what trolls do. I very much want you not to be a troll. I have repeatedly tried to show you how you are being received by people - from a wide range of cultural and racial backgrounds. If you are unable to be honest with me, please try to be honest with yourself.

And that, I think, was that.

My aim throughout this messy engagement has been to try to make PW aware of how he is coming across, and how he keeps referring to statements which have simply not been made by others, and then, rather than supporting his claims, trying to obscure matters by progressively more incomprehensible, rude and self-pitying responses. So far, no luck, and this thread shows him exhibiting both traits again. It's reminding me a lot of Modzero - and, also, like Modzero, any truce or agreement seems doomed to be shattered the moment one does not do exactly what PW wants, or indeed if you offend him by saying something totally imaginary in his head. I know how we dealt with this, eventually, with Modzero, but I also know how much hassle that was, and I'd rather not go through that again if it could be avoided. However, how do you cope with someone who either refuses or is unable to engage with what has been written in reality? Answers on a postcard, really.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
22:46 / 01.10.06
Haus, you forgot all the "RE" field data.

I believe your first PM title recently to me was:

"Sanity check"

Am I right?
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
22:50 / 01.10.06
Oh, and seeing as everything shall be made manifest, here's the %delightful% PM message that was attached to Haus' "Sanity check':

I am not going to start a thread discussing your banning unless and until it becomes necessary. At the moment I am trying my hardest to create a situation in which a discussion about whether or not to ban you does not become necessary. You appear to be intent on frustrating my attempts at pretty much every turn.

I am quite seriously trying to help you here, PW, as are the many people who have taken the time to explain to you why your recent behaviour in the Policy is unhelpful and hostile to Barbelith. I am quite sure that you do not believe that you are doing it "wilfully" - that is, that your intention is not specifically hostile to Barbelith - but that really doesn't matter. Please just read what people have said to you.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
22:51 / 01.10.06
Absolutely. Your response was "re: Sanity Check". My response to that was "re: re: Sanity Check", I imagine. Your next response was titled "Check your own sanity, mate" (way to make it personal, kidder), and I think everything after that was "PS", with a lengthening number of "re"s before it.

It's good that you focused on that minor detail and ignored everything that has so far been said to you in this thread.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
22:52 / 01.10.06
Yes, we got that. It's towards the beginning of his last post.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
22:52 / 01.10.06
I already quoted that above, PW. Are you actually reading this thread?
 
 
Olulabelle
22:55 / 01.10.06
But PW, honestly, if you'd sent all that to me I might entitle a PM 'sanity check', too.

I think Haus is being very reasonable in trying to engage with you about things, I don't think he's out to get you, make you leave or anything like that. However, I can see you obviously feel that he is. Perhaps if you try and let go of that feeling you might be in a better place to discuss things.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
22:59 / 01.10.06
I was putting Haus' 'Sanity check' in it's original context.

Ironic, really.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
23:00 / 01.10.06
Lula, Haus sent the first PM, not me...
 
 
Olulabelle
23:08 / 01.10.06
PW, I don't think it matters who sent the first PM. Why do you?

I think if I had a PM from someone like the ones you got I would feel like they were looking out for me. I think Haus probably was looking out for you.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
23:12 / 01.10.06
Oh, in the interests of full disclosure, there were some smiley faces scattered around PW's posts that have not come out in the cut and pastes, before he claims that this, too is some form of conspiracy.

On banning - I don't think the intent is to scare you, PW, rather to make you understand that your current behaviour is the kind of behaviour that gets people banned. It's intended as... well, as a sanity check. A reality check, if you'd rather.

If you really don't mind being banned, then to be honest that would be the easiest thing to do - it would address your compulsive posting and upward-curving aggression, and we wouldn't have to feel bad about it because you had stated clearly that you didn't mind, as long as your previous posts were allowed to remain undeleted, which I'm sure we'd be perfectly content to do. If that would work for everyone, that would be cool; we have indeed had people before demanding to be banned to save them from their compulsive engagement with a board that was making them unhappy. We don't normally go along with such requests, but I guess we could in a special case...
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
23:13 / 01.10.06
Intent + Context + Text = meaning.

Lula, I was only "responding" to Haus. Mirroring his assumptions. e.g. that I must be ignorant, not reading the stuff he has, taking stimulants, being a troll, etc.

I believe Haus was pished last night. Were you Hausey-baby? Eh?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
23:18 / 01.10.06
You don't seem to have read my post, Paranoidwriter. Is this because you have been smoking crack?
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
23:19 / 01.10.06
Have you?
 
  

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