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"Heroes" Series 1 (US and Torrents edition)

 
  

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Spaniel
17:32 / 23.05.07
Maaayyybeee.

I've been keen on the Takei=Kensei thing since he turned up with the sword
 
 
miss wonderstarr
17:36 / 23.05.07
It's similar.



Also, the line "kensei" occurs when the blue samurai isn't yet in sight ~ he's way over the peak of a hill at that point. I declare the Hiro=Kensei theory BACK ON!
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
17:40 / 23.05.07
So does that mean that since Hiro is his own ancestor he will be the one to fight the big brains in the year 3000?

I do like the Hire=Kensei angle, but I don't think that is how it is going to play out.

One thing I notices is that the non-Japanese male leads are rocking out the Biblical names. Not that I think there is anything to it really, but with Noah being the reveal of Mr Bennet's first name it was what came to mind.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
17:55 / 23.05.07
So does that mean that since Hiro is his own ancestor he will be the one to fight the big brains in the year 3000?

"I did do the nasty in the past-y."
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
18:00 / 23.05.07
and of course, during the Nikki/Candice fight:

"Perfectly symmetrical violence never solved anything"

And in case people missed it:
30 hours of Heroes next season
 
 
grant
18:29 / 23.05.07
I still don't understand the suggestions that Nathan would have been better off taking Claire with them into space, and that she'll realise this and regret it.

Not that she'll realize it, but that she'll mistakenly realize it, you know? She'll think "if only..." and be wrong, but still think it.

----

I also think the Jessica thing was explained nicely -- the split personality thing was her psychological limit. Both Nikki & Jessica could be super strong, but only Nikki would *allow* herself to be that way, yeah? The split is psychological, not power-based at all, except that the powers have this psychological effect....

Like Hiro with the sword and Peter with the proximity? And Parkman & Sprague with their general down-on-his-luckishness?

I think that's one of the engines in the show -- amazing powers that people aren't exactly ready to deal with full on.
 
 
grant
18:36 / 23.05.07
From that article:
The network has hit upon a way to keep the show repeat for nearly the entire season, ordering more episodes of the show and embarking on a quasi-spinoff called "Heroes: Origins."

What does "keep the show repeat" mean?
 
 
Spaniel
18:54 / 23.05.07
I just don't buy that they were calling out to Hiro. They were looking into the distance and then we cut to Kensei coming over the hill. We've seen this scene a bazillion times before: the goodie turns up and thinks the army of badasses before him are after his blood, however it quickly transpires that he's in the middle of some kind of war and that there attention is directed at their enemy.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
19:08 / 23.05.07

What does "keep the show repeat" mean?


Based on the rest of the article I believe the meant "keep the show repeat free"

They seem to still be planning on the long spring hiatus, but filling it with new, semi-related, content rather then repeats.
 
 
thewalker
19:56 / 23.05.07

I'm also a little confused about why Peter needed Nathan to fly him into orbit

He stated to Nathan that he had absorbed too many powers,and was unable to control any of them.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
21:24 / 23.05.07
OK, thanks for the explanation.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
21:50 / 23.05.07
Yoy know, I would have liked to see some more "Too many powers" freakout at the end. Yeah, his hands were glowing, thats cool I guess. What I would have liked though would be to see him phasing accidentally, maybe melt the Kirby Plaza statue when he touches it, things like that. Sure, he had absorbed so many powers, but why was only the nuclear power the one going bonkers?

And then there could be Mohinder saying only Nathan could safely touch him because of the magic of sibling DNA!

Ok, not the last bit.
 
 
rhedking
03:34 / 24.05.07
Although it hasn't been said blatently, Niki created Jessica to cope with stress. As she was the "strong" personality, she had less inhibitions on using super-strength. Once the Niki's apparent weaknesses were acknowleged as strengths (her love for her family in ep. 22) the need for Jessica was gone or at least diminished and Niki could access her powers as the dominant personality.
 
 
Queer Pirate
04:10 / 24.05.07
Although I loved the build-up leading to the final scene, I felt that the Kirby Plaza showdown was a bit of a let down. I can't shake the feeling the the series's writers can't handle a decent fight scene. For example, Jessica vs. Parkman didn't make sense as she manages to pull a straight lie to the face of the mind-reading cop. The Peter vs. Sylar fight in Surresh's apartment also felt like a cop-out, as Peter had enough power at his disposal to at least try to defend against the very predictable glass-shard attack.

However, I don't feel like bitching, and I thought it would be nicer to provide something a little meaty instead. By no way do I claim to be a writer of professional calibre, but I felt I could write something that gave the final showdown in Heroes a bit more flair that what was seen on TV. I incorporated most elements of the original script, but I did my best to flesh them out into something that I feel represents a decent final showdown.

Also, I started out writing the piece as a rather straightforward account of events, and then I became a bit more "literary". I think it's flawed in many ways, so please abstain from commenting on the writing. I'm willing the discuss the actual events of the narrative, though.

I hope you enjoy.

***EDIT: I've reworked the writing of the Kirby Plaza showdown and I've added a three-part epilogue to tie a loose end I hated.***

* * *

THE KIRBY PLAZA SHOWDOWN

Sylar hurls Bennet against the concrete wall. Bones crack; Noah Bennet is crippled and drops his gun. Sylar turns to Peter and examines the hero's face.
"Peter Petrelli. Haven't I killed you before?"
"Guess it didn't stick."

As a sudden reply, using telekinesis, Sylar grabs Peter, lifts him up and starts strangling him while standing at a distance. Peter attempts to knock Sylar back using his own telekinesis powers, but the murderer counters the attempt with a shock wave of his own that sends convulsions through Peter.
"Not this time, Petrelli. Not with my own favourite trick."

Micah and Molly Walker rush out of the Kirby Plaza tower, followed closely by Nicky and Surresh. They are helping D.L. move about; he's bleeding to death from a gunshot. Molly sees Sylar, who is holding a disabled Peter, and she yells in terror.
"It's him! It's the bogeyman!"

Sylar glances at the child and grins with sadistic glee. He turns back to Peter, raises a finger next to his victim's forehead and starts cutting open his skull; Peter screams. However, at this instant, Matt Parkman reaches Kirby Plaza, gun in hand.
"Sylar!"

Aiming straight for the killer's heart, Parkman fires five rounds. Yet, Sylar is fast enough to stop the bullets in mid-air. He pauses a moment and then hurls the projectiles back at the police officer. With a dull, muffled noise, the bullets hit Parkman straight in the chest, and he collapses, mortally wounded. Molly runs to him.
"Officer Parkman!"

But when Sylar turns back to Peter, he's gone and out of sight. Sylar mutters under his breath. "Invisible, again..."

A tall sculpture stands at the centre of Kirby Plaza. Sylar presses his open hand against it; it instantly liquefies, but before it falls formlessly, Sylar shapes spears out of the liquid material; he freezes them solid and holds them in mid-air using telekinesis. Sylar closes his eyes and listens for the sound of Peter's heartbeat. Then he hurls all the spears in the same direction.

Yet, unlike the face-off in Surresh's apartment, Peter reacts fast enough. Time stops around him and Peter scurries away from the spears. However, his mastery over Hiro's power is flawed, and time resumes it's race once too soon: one of the spears shoots through Peter's right shoulder. He holds back a shriek of pain, and he falls to the ground.

Sylar motions towards a parking meter that snaps from its base and flies into his hands. But as he is about to finish Peter off, Nicky hustles stealthily towards the heroes's adversary. However, Sylar swings around, and, with a metallic thud, he bats Nicky to the ground - he heard her.
"You were very quiet. But sadly, to find Petrelli I had to magnify my hearing a thousand time, and I forgot to shut it off."

Micah yells, "Mom!" Sylar attempts to strike Nicky again with the parking meter, but in a split-second, she's back on her feet, catches the improvised maul and yanks it off Sylar's hands. He gawks in surprise for a quick instant, long enough for Nicky to hit him back and send him sprawling on the hard ground of Kirby Plaza.
"My strength's magnified only ten times, but that seems good enough."

Peter, who witnessed Sylar disintegrating the sculpture, liquefies the spear that juts from his shoulder, but his wound has yet to heal. However, Sylar recovers almost immediately from what had appeared to be a felling blow. Without taking the time to scramble back to his feet, he uses telekinesis to send Nicky flying. She and the parking meter collapse next to Peter, but invisible force lifts the meter which hovers slowly towards Micah, D.L. and Surresh.
"That one hurt," growls Sylar, "He's your son, right?"
"Micah!!"

The parking meter flies straight towards Nicky's family and Surresh, but phases right through them; D.L. passes out from the strain, his hands still clutching hard Micah's and the geneticist's legs. Sylar turns to face Nicky and Peter, and pins both of them to the ground with telekinetic force.
"Mom!"

Micah closes his eyes and whispers, "Please, this has to work!" He utters a desperate plea to the electronic souls of the city, ignoring range, pushing his powers far beyond everything he's ever attempted. Every alarm in the vicinity goes off, every speaker that borders the Plaza screeches deafening feedback, every streetlight explodes in sparks of electric flame. Sylar's face distorts in pain, he covers his ears with both hands and staggers. Nicky and Peter stand back up.
"Go back to your family, they need you."

Nicky runs to Micah, they hug tightly, and they both look after D.L. in concern. Peter steadily walks to Sylar who attempts to weakly push Peter back with a telekinetic wave, but Peter deflects the attack and kicks Sylar in the face. Sylar falls. Peter punches him hard once, twice, but suddenly, the air flares up around Sylar and Peter backs up quickly, scalded by the blaze. Sylar stands back up, surrounded with atomic flames.
"No one can stop it, Petrelli! You can't stop it! The painter saw it and like a fool, he thought he could change the future - but I took his power too!"

Moreover, to Peter's horror, his own hands start to glow, crackling with orange energy. He backs up a step, staring at himself, as his terrifying nightmares of the future materialize.
"No, no, no... NO!!!"

Sylar lets out an exhilarated cackle.
"You can't control it! We're both villains! Even if you stop me, you explode!"

Sylar laughs hysterically. The heroes's trade glances, in panic. No one makes a move. They stare powerlessly at the two exploding men.

But as Isaac Mendez drew it, Hiro appears out of thin air behind Sylar. Hiro calls out a challenge.
"Sylar!"

The madman turns around in surprise.
"You!"

Although all the heroes that are still conscious are looking, none ever sees Hiro Nakamura close the distance that separates him from Sylar. None sees him plunge his blade through Sylar's heart. None hears him whisper, "Gomen nasai..." To their eyes, one moment, Hiro is standing, sword in hand, a dozen paces away from Sylar; the next moment, Hiro is right in front of their mortal enemy, both of his arms are already thrust forward, and his are hands tightly clasped around the handle of the sword on which Sylar is now impaled. The killing blow has been delivered from beyond time. The atomic energies no longer surround Sylar.
"Yatta!" says the youthful Japanese man under his breath, almost disbelieving his own success.

Hiro Nakamura pulls his sword from Gabriel Gray's body, and he sheathes the katana in the elegant motions of a batto-jutsu initiate as the slain villain slides to the ground. Hiro turns to Peter Petrelli, whose desperate attempt at keeping in check the nuclear powers he has inherited from Ted Sprague is quickly faltering.
"Hiro, take me somewhere safe, I can't stop this!"
"Hold on, Peter Petr...!"

Before Hiro even takes a step towards Peter, invisible force hurls him towards the tall wall of the Kirby Plaza tower. Hiro yells in distress, but vanishes just before hitting the mass of glass and concrete at full speed. Sylar smiles, bleeding to death, his open hand extended towards the spot where he had hoped to crush Nakamura. His face grows still, his eyes turn blank as Isaac's once did, and images of Sylar's life flicker within the misty orbs that once saw the future; the last image they hold is of Sylar's lifeless face as he grows cold on the ground of Kirby Plaza.

Radioactive energy spills from Peter, who is on the verge of panic. Hiro is nowhere to be seen.

However, suddenly emerging from the sky above, Nathan Petrelli and Claire land at the edge of Kirby Plaza, next to Bennet, who is barely conscious.
"Dad!"
"Oh God, Claire - teddy bear..."

Noah and Claire hug as Nathan looks on with an awkward expression on his face. Peter sees his brother; waves of nuclear force are now flooding Kirby Plaza.
"Nathan!"
"I was wrong, Peter! Linderman was wrong! Mom is wrong! This isn't inevitable! You were right all along, we can change the world, we can make it better!"

Nathan steps towards Peter and brings up his arms to shield his face from the scorching heat.
"I love you, Peter! I'll take you out of here, and you won't hurt anybody!"
"Nathan!"

But the nuclear energy flares up and Nathan reels back, struck by the blaze. He yells in pain, the sleeves of his suit are on fire. Claire rushes to him.
"D- Dad!"

She smothers the flames with her bare hands. Nathan seems shaken, but otherwise unhurt.
"I can't get close!"

Claire locks her eyes with Peter's, which are filled with despair. The powerful energies recede a bit, but will not abate.
"Claire, help me!"

Claire kneels and takes Noah's pistol. He hears Claire swallow back a sob. Noah reaches out and his hand brushes Claire's. Claire turns to her surrogate father, their eyes meet; tears stream down her round face.
«Teddy bear...»
«Dad...»

There is silent understanding.

Claire Bennet stands up and starts walking towards the epicentre of the blaze, but Nathan tries to stop her.
"Claire, you don't have-"
"You know I do," she replies in a shaky voice.
"Nathan, listen to me!" Peter cries out, "Claire can survive this, and maybe I can too - remember when you thought Sylar had killed me! But even if I die, this is the only way! Please, don't let me kill all those people!"
"He's right... Dad."

Nathan lets go of Claire, and she starts walking towards Peter, gun in hand. The heat is staggering, but she barely feels any pain, although the inferno quickly sets her clothes ablaze and sears her face. She stands in front of Peter, who's clutching his shoulders, failing to contain the powers that Isaac foresaw would destroy New York. Peter looks at Nathan.
"I love you, Nathan!"
"Peter! There's something I have to tell you!"

Energy flares from Peter: Claire staggers, and Nathan is forced to step back.
"Hiro Nakamura said I become a villain in the future. I don't want this to happen!"
"I know, Nathan!"

Peter looks at Claire. Her face appears burnt beyond recognition.
"Please, do it, Claire."

Claire raises the gun and aims for Peter's head.
"Oh God, please survive this, Peter. I don't want to kill you."

She is shaking.
"You saved the cheerleader," says Claire with a strangled voice.
"Save the world, Claire."

Claire shuts her eyes tight, and she pulls the trigger.

* * *

SURRESH

"Seemingly random, fragile threads that come together and mingle to form one steady bond. Destinies intertwined for the greater good. Painful sacrifices by individuals committed to the well-being of their species."

Rotating red lights of ambulances and fire trucks bathe Kirby Plaza. A dark cloth is drawn across Peter Petrelli's pale face. Nathan and Claire stand close, clutching each other's hand. Despite the objections of well-meaning paramedics, Noah Bennet hobbles next to Claire. She looks at him with a sad smile, and she reaches for his hand. He squeezes hers tenderly.

Inside an ambulance, Nicky and Micah stand next to D.L. He's regained consciousness, but life seems about to leave him.
"Dad!"
"Don't die, sweetheart!"
"It's gonna be okay, baby... It's gonna be okay..."

Matt Parkman lies inanimate on a stretcher, IVs plugged to his arm. A man and a woman rush him towards the open back of an ambulance. Molly Walker hustles along with them.
"Don't die, officer Parkman! You're my hero, do you hear me? You're my hero!"

As Matt's stretcher slides within the vehicle, Mohinder Surresh puts his hand on Molly's shoulder. She snuggles against him and starts crying.

"They were all brought together to accomplish a formidable mission, to put an end to a fearsome threat. This is the struggle for life, for evolution - an evolution that may often take place through fear, mistrust and conflict, or an evolution that may also occur through cooperation, caring and love. Now, their mission is complete..."

However, there no longer is a corpse where Sylar lied. A sticky, viscous trail of blood slithers across a portion of Kirby Plaza. It leads to a manhole. The cover is stained with blood, and its opening rests ajar. Then, an unseen force nudges the cover back into place.

"...except for one final task."

* * *

Sylar drags himself in the dark tunnel. The stench of soiled water nauseates him. He stopped the bleeding and forced his body to pump pain-killing endorphins, but blood keeps rushing to his head and batters against his eardrums, forcing him to relinquish is heightened hearing.

Sylar lost track of time. Has it been hours since the Japanese stabbed him? Nakamura's power, he understands it now: the wondrous ability to bend space and time. He must rip it apart from him.

How could he lose? He is the most special of all. He will show the entire world. All these people gathered at the Plaza, so many of them had powers. He will find their hiding places, he will hound them down, and he will acquire for himself these amazing gift these people don't deserve.

His foot trips against an irregularity in the ground, and Sylar falls. The rough concrete tears his hands. Sylar lets out a sigh; he can rest, just for a moment. He thinks of his mother.
"Dear Mother, I'm so sorry..."

But at this moment, Sylar hears a soft rake behind him. He attempts to rise and turn around, but pain tears through his chest as gunshots resound. However, he stops the last bullet in mid-air. Amidst the darkness, he now hears a heartbeat.

Surresh.

Sylar retaliates instantly, hurling the bullet straight for the good doctor's heart. However, instead of the wet sound of steel burying into soft flesh, Sylar hears the bullet ricochet on the concrete wall behind which Mohinder sought cover. Immediately, another deafening gunshot pierces the air and overloads Sylar's hearing; he screams in pain, his skull feels like it was torn open. Yet, the distorted sound of Mohinder's words makes it through to him.
"This is for all the families you destroyed."

Sylar dies instantly as a final projectile plunders his brain.

Surresh, clutching tightly his firearm, walks slowly towards Sylar. Through the green haze of the night-vision goggles Bennet provided him with, he sees Sylar's ruined head. Mohinder let's out a relieved sigh, and he pulls out a portable phone.
"It's over, Molly. I found the bogeyman. It's over. He won't hurt anyone else."
"I know, Doctor Surresh," Molly's reply is filled with interference from the poor underground reception, "I can't find him anymore. I can't find dead people."

It's over. His task is complete: his father and Molly's family have been avenged at last. Mohinder knows for sure that Sylar's biofeedback powers cannot restore a serious brain injury. It can staunch bleeding, push a body far beyond its normal limits, or slow a metabolism enough to feign death and deceive even a medical professional. Sylar murdered a young New Jersey woman for this amazing gift. It allowed him to fool adversaries, and to elude capture many times over. But Surresh knows from carefully studying Sylar's perverted DNA that he cannot regenerate a destroyed brain.

Only Claire Bennet and her uncle Peter Petrelli can accomplish that feat.

* * *

Almost everyone attends Peter's funeral.

Nathan stands with his wife and kids, and his mother. His wife stands on crutches, thanks to a "new experimental treatment" for spinal injuries. The Petrelli matriarch appears to be lost in thought.

Close to them are Claire and Noah Bennet. Bennet's arm is in a cast, and he bears a slight hunch. Their family is absent, but they managed to get a hold of them on the phone, and to be reassured that everybody is safe and sound. Claire also talked with Zack.
"Everyone misses you here. I miss you too."

Nicky and Micah stay close to D.L.'s wheelchair. It will be a while before he can walk again, but the doctors assured his family that he would recover within weeks.

Molly and Surresh are also present. Matt Parkman couldn't leave the hospital, but his condition his stable, and his pregnant wife takes good care of him. Molly visits him regularly. Surresh supervises Molly's treatment, and her disease is kept in check so far.

Nathan Petrelli graciously offered to cover the medical fees of anybody who had been injured in this "mad Kirby Plaza shooting spree" involving a "serial killer the FBI had been chasing for months".

Hiro Nakamura has not been seen since the night after the election. Ando hasn't heard from him either, and, despite his sadness, he resumed his duties for his employer. But every once in a while, he peers at the clock, hoping that its hands will falter for a moment. However, they march on, inexorable.

The coffin is lowered in the grave as prayers of comfort are recited. Nathan and Claire, in turns, deposit flowers on the closed lid. Earth is shovelled and soon covers the polished wood.

Eventually, everybody departs, with the exception of Nathan, his family and his mother. The Petrelli matriarch soon beckons everybody to leave Nathan alone with his brother.
"They need to say goodbye."

Nathan Petrelli stands silently in front of tombstone. It reads, "Peter Petrelli, the most caring of souls."

Next to his brother, invisible, Peter speaks softly.
"You were always good at faking sincerity."

Nathan grunts.
"And you were always good at not being where you're supposed to be."
 
 
Spaniel
07:23 / 24.05.07
A bit of fun, although I'd try and do without some of the expository dialogue.

I hate to be a downer but it's probably worth us remembering that tv shows have budgets. Tight, tight budgets
 
 
Queer Pirate
18:50 / 24.05.07
Thanks for the input. I've edited the whole thing and added a three-part epilogue to tie a loose end that I can't believe I forgot. My original post should be updated soon.
 
 
Queer Pirate
19:01 / 24.05.07
They do have tight budgets, but this is why the beginning and the end should be filmed early when there's still some good money to blow on it. Nobody's going to complain if episode 13 gets a bit cheap on special effects, but everybody remembers a botched finale. I expected much more out of this one.

Anyway, low budget is no excuse for a lack of skill at writing showdowns.

Despite my whining here, I nonetheless had a great time with this show, but I'm not sure I'll stick around for season 2... Ok, ok... I want to know who's scarier than the bogeyman.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
19:35 / 24.05.07
I hope this sets a precedent for me to post up my Claire Bennet Mary Sue slash.
 
 
Jack Fear
20:09 / 24.05.07
It sets a precedent for me COMING TO YOUR HOUSE AND SMASHING YOUR COMPUTER.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
20:17 / 24.05.07
I had been Claire's bff since 4th grade so she often invited me round to the family house after school and we did our homework, listened to music.

Today things were different. A feeling of hot lava was churning inside me as I looked at my friend, she was wearing her cheerleader outfit and it clung tight to every curve.

Slowley I reached out and brushed a strand of perfect blonde hair off her perfect face. The lava feeling was boiling up inside me like a river of desire.

"Sorry" I blushed.

"That's OK Miss W," Claire blurted. "I've always liked you Hon xx"

Looking down I saw her perfect breasts were stiff and heaving. The lava in my boiled over and spilled as we kissed, tongues fighting in each others mouths...

[read more on my LJ: rated R, DISCLAIMER I do not own Claire Bennet, thanks to all my beta-readers x]
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
20:32 / 24.05.07
I am not sure how I am typing this because I just shot myself in the face.

No. Wait. I just wanted to.
 
 
Corey Waits
22:35 / 24.05.07
Most things I wanted to say have been said, except for one thing:

As for the whole "What actually happened to the Petrelli brothers" thing, we know that Peter didn't die, because in the future he was the bomb and he was still alive (with that nasty scar that I really can't account for at all).
The only way Nathan would've survived is if he dropped Peter in time to fly off. So I guess that ones up to the producers - either bring him back with a semi-explanation, or let his sacrifice really count for something.

Does anyone else think it's funny that in the future Noah was saving people with powers from certain death? Perhaps he should've just been sticking them in a big boat and waiting for it to rain...

As someone mentioned previously, my biggest issue with the finale was the fact that NYC was a total ghost town. I could handle the showdown scene being void of innocent bystanders, but there was absolutely no reason why all the other street scenes needed to be.

And also, when Hiro first went into the future, didn't the bomb explode during the day? I guess it's not a real big deal if it did - Just another example of the continuity fairy being drunk on the job.
 
 
Shiny: Well Over Thirty
08:29 / 25.05.07
And also, when Hiro first went into the future, didn't the bomb explode during the day? I guess it's not a real big deal if it did - Just another example of the continuity fairy being drunk on the job.

I noticed that - it looked to be midmorning when the bomb when off when Hiro was in the future. My explanation is that in changing the future Hiro and co also changed exactly when the explosion was due to detonate. Of course it's also possible that the explosion will still happen several hours later right on schedule in the first episode of the next series, when either Peter falls back to earth of Sylar gets himself together enough to explode - given the timings being out I won't be 100% convinced the explosion has been averted until the Heroes timeline progreses past lunchtime on the day after the elections.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
15:45 / 28.05.07
I suppose I was too busy enjoying how they all came together at the end to notice all the massive holes in plot.

Corey Waits And also, when Hiro first went into the future, didn't the bomb explode during the day? I guess it's not a real big deal if it did - Just another example of the continuity fairy being drunk on the job.

Peter's prophetic dream was also set in day time, in a car-crowded but deserted street, no Sylar and with Chris Eccleston nearby laughing his arse off, so either that's also a continuity error, was meant to prophecy rather than tell the literal truth or perhaps Hiro-Prime punched the Reality Wall until the Scarlet Witch gave birth to alternate reality babies.

I'm less than ecstatic about Sylar surviving, I know that Wolverine can behead Magneto and he can turn up on Genosha two issues later but even if the brothers Petrelli and officer Parkman pull through it lessens the heroism of the moment if they don't actually stop the bad guy. I personally would have preferred the Heroes to more blatantly work together, Sylar is strong and fast, so could have done with some of Nikki's superstrengthed arse-kicking rather than one punch and then he retiring to the sidelines to wait with DL. And if Sylar survives, it does make the last three or four episodes with regards to Hiro's journey to Hero-dom seem like the most blatant timewasting.

Another pointer for Nathan surviving is that Xorn repaired the damage to his wife's spine. Rather pointless for the writers to do that if he's dead the next episode. There's the question of why Sylar and Peter have basically the same powers but Sylar believes he needs to eat people's BRANES to get their power but also can control them better while Peter doesn't but has difficulty standing in the way of control.

This series has generally been great in generalities but a little less hot on specifics.
 
 
Spaniel
15:57 / 28.05.07
Another pointer for Nathan surviving is that Xorn repaired the damage to his wife's spine

That is a very good point. Well done you.
 
 
Shrug
16:02 / 28.05.07
Maybe this has been covered but could they not have shot Peter in the head and then revived him later under more controlled circumstances??
 
 
Spaniel
16:34 / 28.05.07
Read. The. Thread.

Naughty
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:31 / 06.06.07
So I am a superhero with the powers of all the heros and of Wolverin and Rouge as well and I have been hanging out with the heroes and espeically Cluade - who btw is a TIMELORD who has totally lost his memory because something really bad happened and who is now my boyf.

OMG! I said we have beaten Skylar COOL!

Yes said Cluade but something has gone wrong when the explosion happened and we are in MIDDLE EARTH.

Then Aragorn appeared from a buash I had heard him with my wolverine senses but did not tell Claude and he jumped and we all laughed.

Hey you are funny said Aragorn would you like to be my girlfriend. Cluade got like an O RLY look on his face.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
13:59 / 06.06.07
Miss-ter Hauserlink, hu-what are you on these days?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
14:15 / 06.06.07
Cluade bit his lip and he looked liek he was about to cry Oh no I thouhgt and then he sang! a song he had written about me it was good and a lot like Falloiut Boy .

Cluade I said I was just joking you around and would not go out with Aragorn I was just saying I would so he would take us to Rivendell so we can look for Claire.

But you could have flowed us to Rivendell and carried me said Cluade OMG your right and we both laughed and Aragorn laughd to.

And then we were in Rivendell and Claire was there because she had arrived in Middle Earth and had been foundby LEGOLAS and they were kissingg and I was so jealous but then Legolas looked up and our eyes locked and he said Dude, Aragorn, yoiur new girlfriend is so HOT.

No time for that said Aragorn because he did not want Legolas to know I had turned him down and I nudged Cluade and we laughed. Yo, said Legolas, my special elf senses tell me that you own this TARDIS which appeared in the centre of Rivendeel.

Whats a TARDIS asked Cluade? Dude, it is this box it arrived on like last week. We captured the man in it and e is in prison would you liek to meet him. Cluade did not cause he was tired but I thought it might be Peter or Nathan so II went to the cells and it was Pete Wendt OMG.

Would you liek to have pizza with me? said Legoals and Pete Wendt at the same tiem. I did not know that Cluade had turned invisible and followed me.
 
 
CameronStewart
18:26 / 20.06.07
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Spaniel
18:30 / 20.06.07
Er. Spoiler.

We've already had this discussion. Could a mod magic that behind a spoiler wotsit?
 
 
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14:46 / 16.07.07
Wow. I just finished the series earlier on this morning after watching episodes almost non-stop since saturday night, and I thought it was brilliant up until the last 2 or 3 episodes, where it seemed to fade a bit.

It kind of lost it's edge for me at the end, and that gutted me a bit because it I loved it so fucking much right from the off. I'm with the people wondering why more superhero fighting action wasn't added either, and was a bit gobsmacked at how brief the final Peter-Sylar battle was, and also thought that the way Hiro killed him didn't really seem to work, especially after all the build-up.

Up until the end though I really enjoyed it and got hooked right into almost every episode. Niki was actually my fave char from early on aswell, but that was mainly because I thought she'd find a balance between herself and Jessica about halfway through the series, and then have the ability to summon Jessica at will, giving her her special power, but was a bit disappionted in the way that story progressed. I liked what they did with Isaac a lot though, how they brought Noah from being such an annoying character into someone actually helping them and being on their side, and loved Peter and Hiro from the off too. A couple of fave lines have to be "I DID IT!" and "FLYING MAN!"

I'm not sure why so many of this type of show/film seem to fade towards the end though, maybe it's just human nature, or because they simply can't spend the time it would require on special effects to make us all happy enough and content, but I feel that it would've gone from great and inspiring to classic if the action and effects had just been ramped up a little more.

...especially in 5 years gone where Peter and Nathen have the showdown, and you watch the red and blue energy charging, the scene is set......and then DAMNIT! You just see Mohinder holding the door shut, arghh! That could've been such an epic scene.

But yeah, I'm not going to be over negative on this, because it had so much about it that I liked. Inspiring stuff, especially some of that artwork from Issac, and the way it turned out to be such a driving element throughout the series, which was one of my fave things about it.
 
 
Evil Scientist
11:05 / 17.07.07
Having just watched the finale on UK Sci-fi I have to say that this series has really paid off. For me it's definitely up there with BSG as a show that's managed to keep me entertained with just the right balance of revelation, action, and development.

The final episode was really good. I loved everyone dogpiling Sylar at the end there. I did pick up on how the explosion was going to be dealt with about a minute beforehand but that was good because it got me all excited.

Bizarre moment with Peter meeting Mr Deveaux. Hopefully Shaft'll be back next season to explain a little more.

I for one am glad that the "big fights" have been low-key or barely seen (like the Sylar/Peter brawl in the darque future). This is more Watchman than it is Authority.

Sylar's escape was a little unbelievable (it's surprising that Bennet didn't empty a clip into him). But I'm happy to knock that off as Sylar getting a precog flash telling him the ideal moment to crawl away. I'm quite glad that Eyebrows'll be back next season.

Hiro's appearance in the past was a cool place to leave it (now he'll get some proper Kensei sword training).

For a moment there I thought the eclipse was a dirty great alien spaceship appearing over the samurai. Never have I been more glad to be wrong. It was aliens wot dunnit would be a little crappy.

Heh, DL + Phasing + Linderman = LolScientist (yeah, I know, I've got the maturity of a five year old).
 
 
Twig the Wonder Kid
11:39 / 17.07.07
And as the Sci-fi channel reaches the end of Series 1 I can finally look at this thread. Now my eyes are smarting.

I think the only thing that hasn't been mentioned is that the series had the same ending as Evil Dead II. Which is cool.
 
  

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