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Mr Tricks
18:52 / 29.04.02
PS: What's "TFC"?

Oh and here's a message I recieved froma friend about her experiences... slightly dated & certainly long, but I thought it worth sharing...

  • "... about the discovery of a mutant form of salvia. i?m sure you are well aware of salvia, as i recall seeing it?s roots in that house hold. prior to last week, i had never experience this magic. now that i have, i am eager to try your source and share mine. however, the medicine i have is reportedly far more intense then the leaves of salvia. the normal leaves of salvia are treated with a standardized extract of the salvia leaves, making it?s potency ten times stronger. throughout this process it remains natural, as it is not chemically treated with anything other than it?s naturally existing chemicals. although, i have never experienced salvia in it?s very natural way, i would (based on numerous stories of the natural experience) state that the experience of the extracted source is far more intense.
    as of yet, i have not reported on my experiments into this realm, simply because the complexity of this dimension took time to translate. although i still have not completely understood it?s language, i feel i can give a simplified statement of it?s effect....

    (ha!!! ha!!! sorry for the length) so i sat quietly, nervously, lovingly watching it?s effects on my soul companion tsering. he had smoked a rather large dose, 1 gram. quietly he sat, and his head dropped gently for about one minute, then he glanced at the bedcover, to a sculpture i had intuitively lit up with candles, a quick glance at me and then his head dropped again down and he remained in this state for 8 minutes. suddenly, he awoke and laughed saying ? so i see, now i understand?. from that point he went into a very brief and slightly unattractive description of his experience, asking ?are you sure you want to take this, it?s really strong?? although, i wasn?t sure, i was determined.

    so... after his total recovery, maybe 20 minutes, i sat pipe loaded(with half his dose, 1/2 gram, the size of an eraser on a pencil), nervously. after praying for the gift of seeing exactly what needed to be seen, i lit the pipe and inhaled. no taste, with an ease to retain the smoke. almost immediately after exhaling, the effects came on. however i must state, it is nothing like the effects of any other drug experienced before. T

    he intensity with which it comes on is far stronger than anything i have ever experienced. I felt as though something was being pulled back quickly by an unknown force of gravity. i say ?something? because there is absolutely no sense of self. simultaneously, ?something? witnessed this spiralling of a dimension within a dimension of myself, but then there was no self. a complete vanishing of all identity, only a force or rather emptiness. within this emptiness ?something? was awe struck by a sculpture of buddha, an actual sculpture in tserings room. seeing it?s face(faces), then the space surrounding it, then the small slivering of the dimension between an object and the space that creates an object.
    this is where the spiralling of a dimension occurred. while experiencing this force of gravity behind this ?something?, there was the experience of a folding forward into something in front of ?something? . again there was absolutely no sense of body or identity. within this space ?something? appeared, then disappeared. all of this occurred in a matter of 1-2 minutes. ?something? remained in a deep trance state for approximately 5 minutes. so here is where it gets tricky.....abruptly ?something?arose from the bed, and tsering asked ?where are you going?? this question brought ?something? to an awareness, meaning that suddenly ?something? became aware or better stated aware of the ?normal? operations of self-consciousness.
    completely confused by the question, suddenly this ?something? was conscious of what we ?normally? refer to as identity/body/time/space. but this made no sense in this state of ?somethingness?, so ?something? slipped away and i began pacing around frantically. in between ?something? and the body/mind/organism which is normally related to. in this state the constucts of time and space made no sense to this body/mind organism . unsure of what to do to help me...tsering whispered(intuitively) into my ear ?om, ma, ni, pen, ma, om? .
    suddenly it was as if again ?something? shifted into being. the body no longer in control, slipped ungraciously into lotus, and ?something? began chanting the mantra. according to tsering, at first in a very unnatural manner, then the rhythm came and ?something? was chanting quickly, like the tibetans. then again the self-consciousness slipped in, the body/mind/organism arose to move to the bed. where it sat quite consciously, uncomfortably for moments then slipped away into the ?something?. remained there for some time(2 minutes maybe), then the identity/body returned to ask tsering ?what happened?? in these moments things became cleare as tsering told me of all the occurrences which ?something? could not relate to, but this body/mind/organism could.
    I began to see all the faces of the self, or of myself as i slipped permanently back into ?reality?. the transformation was rough and ugly. not because of the salvia, but because of the sudden realization of the self. suddenly seeing the masks of so called identity, and their careful calculations to make certain that everything appears as others (rather then ?something?) would like them to appear. this body/ mind organism suddenly became aware of the simple truth that i am constantly putting on numerous faces to appear to people as i think they would like me to appear.
    Simply stated i saw the depths of my true nature and it wasn?t pretty. but then again i prayed to see exactly what needed to be seen. and it was this body/mind/organism that requested to see what was needed, for the purpose of growth. i just hadn?t expected to see this. at first i responded to this insight with my normal functioning mind, ?guilt?. the ?SOMETHING? shifted instantaneously and i grew. the strangest part of the whole trip was the simple emptiness of it all. there was no recollection of the experience, until after tsering related to me what he had witnessed. at first, watching me watch the buddha and the various faces i made. joy, sorrow, bliss, fear, awe. then out, then up, then the question ?where are you going??,then down, then the mantra, the bed, then out, then ?BOOM?. had he not told me anything, perhaps i would have awoken with absolutely no rememberance at all, except the sticky descende.
    It was only through sharing his witnessing that the pieces fell into place. based on my experience, i wouldn?t recommend this salvia to just anyone. only a select few!!!!! until now i have not shared my experience with anyone other then tsering obviously. but we both agreed that this substance is not one to rave about. not because it is unpleasant, on the contrary, it is so....sacred that it deserves the respect of silence. however, i would be honored to share a journey together with you and a few carefully selected people.
    one other thing to mention is that there is a sort of pschizophrenic nature to this experience. ofcourse, perhaps not everyone experiences it in this way, but there is no mistaken loss of identity that is inevitable. maybe someone like terrence mckeena would not share this experience, but few people have achieved the depths of deep space, like he has.
    Tsering, has done a great depth of experimentation in the realms of psychotropic substances including dmt and hyawasca for days. he stated that this was a ?complete shock?. intense in the same way that dmt is intense, but subtly different. not only is there a total erasing of the identity, there is also a loss of identity recollection. for some this may be unbearable, so i would caution those who i share this substance with, for in some way i am responsible. i must go, but look forward to seeing you soon.
 
 
cusm
12:50 / 30.04.02
"TFC"

An alternate phrasing for Capture The Flag? A fairly serious gaming sport, anymore.
 
 
solid~liquid onwards
17:45 / 30.04.02
TFC team fortress classic, a mod for half-life, and one of the most popular multiplayer games online

its team & class based and very fun... action is in the style of quake, but there are 8 different classes, each with different properties.

i.e (my fav) medic, fast, medium armour, nail gun and shotgun as well as normal grenade and concussion grenades (can be used to jump)...medic pack which can infect enemys and heal team mates

or heavy weapon guy..enormous armour, giant chain gun, normal and mirv grenades, about as fast as a brittle turd.

Nice to see you manga.

You wanna do a camping thing in some woods with a fire and some other dudes (graham & fred (thomas?) on the long weekend and a big bag of salvia. (get on mIRC)

dude, when i smoked up at cyrils, and things began to get weird i just relaxed and went with it then the trip came on...but mid trip, i could kinda fight it a little and it would go away...then come back when i gave into it.

Just conjecture, but it might be a bit like lucid dreaming, when you normally dream, you just kinda go along with what happens, but you can train yourself to remember them better and to take control... perhaps similar techiniques will help to harness the learning powers of salvia...anyone had any experience in this?...i might have a book somewhere if you wanna borrow it.
 
 
Mr Tricks
18:06 / 30.04.02
Welcome aboard MANGA!!! Glad you could join us...

"hey guys. . .I think that perhaps one of the reasons i had difficulty tripping was that i was smoking the salvia in a makeshi[f]t rocket (you know the drill: bottle, plastic bag, bowl made of aluminium foil) and the plastic started melting, giving off some rather nasty vapours."

A ROCKET is a new one 2 me... Sounds like what we would call a Gravity Bong in these parts... Anyway, Melting plastic is never a good thing, yick!!! The most important aspect in Smoking Salvia is Saturating your lungs... Much more so than one would with Tobacco or Marijuanna even. Hence the use of Water pipe or Bong would help greatly in cooling the smoke enough to hold deeply for some time, with out a harsh coughing fit.

"I wanted to find out if anyone around here knows any decent sites (preferrably british, cos of the shipping costs) which sell this kind of equipment."

Not sure I could help you with that... But there must be some sort of "head Shop" to be found... you know, the store where one can buy all that weird TOBACCO smoking equipment, as well as tie-died shirts, Greatful Dead stickers etc... THEY're all over California...

"secondly, i've recently read some of Carlos Castaneda's works, and in 'the teachings of don Juan', he labels mescalito (peyote) as a teacher."

I've only ever smoked Peyote, I conjunction with Salvia actually, Quite nice. But yes, Both are Teachers in their own manner... Perhaps mescalito could be viewed as your "male" GYM teacher, while Salvia could be view as your "female" Arts teacher...
Much of what I've read/been told about mescalito vibes with a much more Yang Male type. While Salvia has always presented herself with-in a Yin female type...

..."he also uses jimson weed to ask questions,"

Also known as Datura, Never really spent time with that one...

"i just wondered if there was any way of accessing salvias teacher-properties without having to resort to (disturbing) mexican rituals...I don't relish the prospect of sewing lizards' eyes up, and then eating them. also, pissing on dogs isn't really my style. any guidance from any of you would be greatly appreciated...............

I've never had to resort to any of that sort of thing to recieve teaching from Salvia... A healthy amount of Smoke, A quite "safe" setting, Supportive companions, A quiet mind and an open receptive Heart....Plus plenty of Patience.

Good Luck.
 
 
Mr Tricks
18:17 / 30.04.02
sstab... Excellent observation with the Lucid Dreaming aspect!!!

Very true, Developing Salvia Language can also accelerate your capacity for Dreaming... She can also teach you a great deal with Navigating Hyper-space ala DMT... One of her most powerful teachings seem to have to do with learning to differentiate one's "true essential self" amidst the light shows of a Massive Hallusination Like one brought on via DMT... This same lesson can of course be applied to Dreaming and of course amidst the many distractions of Waking life...

That Camping mission sounds epic!!! Almost wish I could join ya'all... I guess I'll be there in Spirit
 
 
solid~liquid onwards
19:52 / 30.04.02
why thank you mr PATricky *blushes*

this weeks a long weekend aint it so we could do it friday saturday sunday or monday

oh, and manga, if you feel like eating ballons and visiting the tree goddess this time, let us know first, we were shitting our selves when you went missing last time*.

* last time someone noticed manga was missing, and no-one had seen him for about half an hour, so those of us that were able to walk took the only torch to look for him (this is about 1 in the morning in some woods)...we made increasinging spirals from the camp, searching ditches, bushes etc...after about 20 mins of searching we found him, sourounded by burst balloons, and inflated one between his hands, he was muttering something about a tree goddess, then bit into the ballon, puncturing it so it deflated slowly.

thats just what happens with alcohol...im actually kinda afraid of seeing salvia taking effect 8|
 
 
Mr Tricks
21:54 / 30.04.02
Tree Goddess indeed . . .
 
 
Oresa delta 20
17:00 / 01.05.02
okay guys, the weekend camping thing looks liek it's gonna be one hell of an experience. earlier today, sttab and i put our collective moneys together, and ordered a 100g of dried leaves. hopefully they should arrive soon, and so should my shiny new water-pipe. i can't wait to see the effects of salvia when in the company of a camp-fire. i don't really think i'm going to find out anything interesting about the 'tree goddess', because as far as i know, that was in fact just a regular tree, it's just that my perception was 'altered' at that time, due to my extreme alcohol content. however, if i do meet her again, i'll be sure to give her your regards
 
 
cusm
17:50 / 01.05.02
Just a note, but if you meet a goddess while "altered", you've still met a goddess. If you discount the experiences you have with drugs as being just from the drugs, then they are of no use to you for spiritual work. Just something to keep in mind. You get as much out of it as you choose to let in. That is the difference between using drugs as a shaman and using them as recreation.
 
 
Mr Tricks
17:54 / 01.05.02
hehe...
Please do...

Glad to here of your preperations...

However... Do not get overly hyped about it... alot of people tend to get "hyped" & find themselves missing whatever Salvia may offer...

Remember quiet your mind, open your heart but hold on to No expectations. I can't stress that enough. Sometime the greatest beauty is in it's mundaneness...

enjoy!!!
 
 
solid~liquid onwards
15:22 / 02.05.02
the more spiritual aspect is pretty much the only reason i first used salvia...and my good friend manga, was kinda curious if it could be used as a teacher plant (go read some carlos castaneda)

if i remember correctly in the first book "the teachings of don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge"

Don Juan said that that there were many teachers in the world, but he only knew of 3 (devils weed, peyote (Mescalito) and smoke, which is pretty much a mushroom dried and ground, but mixed with some flowers and stuff)

If i was to say salvia was a teacher plant, any ideas as to what else could be a teacher
 
 
Mr Tricks
18:30 / 02.05.02
So, is Devil's Weed supposed to be Marijuana or Datura?

The magic Mushroom, of course...

Salvia, certainly...

There ARE plenty of others, depending on location & culture... ever come accross the book:

"Plants of the Gods"

check it out . . .
 
 
solid~liquid onwards
19:21 / 02.05.02
yup, devils weed is datura :P

might just check out that book.
 
 
Oresa delta 20
19:21 / 02.05.02
What Castaneda calls devils weed, don Juan calls 'la yerba del diablo' (devil's weed in spanish). at several points in the book, it is referred to as 'Jimson weed', and is also attributed the latin name 'Datura Inoxia'.

I realise now that setting high expectaions of salvia may indeed be what has so far kept me away from her. One of my friends tried it way before i did, and became a tree while under her influence. So when i first tried her, i was thinking 'cool, i'm gonna be tripping like a hippy'. Siebert has often said to treat salvia with utmost respect, and now i think i'm beginning to see what he means...
 
 
Mr Tricks
22:21 / 02.05.02
Slavia has also been called... Yerba da la Pastora Maria
Grass of the Shepardess Mary

Some wonder of this is a variant of the Vergin Mary & sometime Salvia has been called "the Virgin's Leaf"

however some ephasise the Sheepardess aspect & point out that the catholic MARY was never associated with Sheep hearding... unless of course we consider the association of Jesus Christ as Shepard. Or there IS another Mythological Mary afterwhich this plant has been dubbed.

also known as The Deviner's Sage whch has always struck me as funny considering what "sage" can also mean...

 
 
solid~liquid onwards
10:11 / 04.05.02
our 100 grams of salvia is here, dunno bout your pipe and stuff :P

its a really nice day today, so you wanna go camping tonight or tmrw?
 
 
Knight's Move
16:29 / 04.05.02
Salvia is astonishing. I have not done it recently but when we did do it we did large bongs of more than normal strength (not sure precisely what sorry) the first time in doors (never again) and after that in Brockwell Park. THe second time we went out after getting stoned and after pills, the third we were stoned. This was Saturday, Sunday, and Monday morning, about when it was getting to dawn.

The first time I was sitting in my friends living room after we had had vodka red bulls earlier and whilst smoking weed and they got me to go first. Having not had any explanations (as they wanted me to go in cold) I took the hit expecting acid style tripping and handed over the bong and suddenly I heard a voice say come on the ride and I was streched out across the other side of the room without moving. Like I was suddenly really far away from each of them and then as they took it they joined me. I was insanely disorientated for a little while (until they all joined me) and felt an incredible vibration across all my body dragging me downwards. And then the weirdheadlostwho whenif rush I started to drift into a shared relaxation with everyone and we came down. We decided that doing it inside was too constricting and, being London, too damn city. Hence the decision on the park for the next time.

The next day we took pills, and got stoned, and at the appropriate time went to the park. We found an ideal spot under some trees forming a kind of grove and went for it. It was starting to get light at this point. Again I came up before I could hand over the bong but was felling a lot better about the rush. I got over the rush and the desire to lie on the floor and moved about instead. A friend joined me standing up. Another lay on the ground and was sucked in. Totally. He was so far below those of us standing up and we had to pull him up to go home afterwards. Me and Luke meanwhile could clearly see in the branches above us faces formed from the leaves, mischevious, but friendly. There was no real contact but they were watching. We also saw a great barrier around the tree we were under around where we were and when we walked inside it we were doing the ket moonwalk like our centre of gravity had changed, like walking down a stationary escalator. When we walked through the barrier we walked normally again. IOnside the barrier it looked cartoony; outside like London. The best bit was we noticed it independently and only asked each other after we started to notice we were walking between the two areas. Like one was an area of higher gravity, more dense, more condensed. After we returned from the park we agreed it was best outside and walking around slightly. Then we took ketamine and smoked. Taking the ket felt almost like going back there again.

The third time I got too little (or I was not ready to receive the lessons yet?) and had the walk but nothing really. After I controlled the rush most was gone. This time we sat on a hill looking over the park and my friend saw the ground open up and the elves running about under the earth. We realised that the intial confusion could be got over and what was left was a feeling like being hyper straight, not even stoned, like the feeling when you take real MDMA powder and the top of your brain is fine and hyperacute. After this we went back and got stoned, we were all experiencing reactions when taking bongs so decided to give ourselves a chance to collate what we had learned.

The fourth time I got enough. I rode the rush and suddenly it was there. I heard the elves calling us to dance. I saw a gathering like people sitting around an auditorium looking at some sort of energy ball in the middle. I stood inside it and felt the power. We all compared notes afterwards, we avoided at the time to try to see if we really were seeing the same things or if we were controlling each others expectations. We all counted an extra person there. Everyone was accounted for except one other person we all saw. It was an astounding experience.

When I went home I did do it again with a freind in his basement. He did it on his own with me there to watch over him but the disparity was too great so he gave me what he had left. Not enough but it brought me to where he was at that point so we could talk normally again without feeling strange. He was removed from me by more than a he was more fucked than me barrier.

After that I had an unfortunate period of taking bongs and coming up again as if on salvia and not being ready for it and spinning out. I have controlled that and now wish to go back and try again during the summer.
 
 
Oresa delta 20
13:43 / 06.05.02
okay. i got back from our camping trip thing yesterday, but i was too tired to post anythign here at that point. Sttab, myself, and a few other friends went out to some woods to try salvia properly, without getting disturbed. we put up a few tents, and made a fire and stuff, and tehn when it began to get dark, we started smoking it. Now i've tried salvia before, but it's only ever left me feeling kinda stoned. This time was quite different. I was sitting in one of our tents, smoking several pipes of salvia, and i felt the irresistable urge to lie down.

I lay on my back, with my eyes closed, and my mind just started to wander. Things were pretty cloudy, and i couldn't really see anything, but then i found myself in a strange place. It's not a place i know, or have ever been to. There's soft, dry sand on the ground, adn i can see a smooth, sand-coloured rock face in the background. There's a small stream running down in my direction from the rocks. On the other side of the stream, i can see a young woman (around mid-20's) and a small boy (6-7 years old).

The child appears to be playing with a levitating, whitish rock, shaped like a cube, with one apex pointing down towards the ground, and the other pointing up into the air, rotating slowly. The child moves his hands around the rock, without actually touching it. Periodically, the rock flashes a blinding white light.

The woman bends over the child, and calls him by a strange name (possibly "Junith"). She appears to be reprimanding him.

I viewed this scene from a 3rd person perspective; i had no personal physical presence, yet the woman was apparently aware of the fact that i was there (although she didn't look at me).

Has anyone else ever had any visions that include any of the things i've mentioned?? I'd particularly like to know of the levitating, flashing rock has any significance anyone is aware of.
 
 
cusm
16:28 / 06.05.02
Children playing with the toys of the Gods?
 
 
Mr Tricks
19:51 / 06.05.02
The best bit was we noticed it independently and only asked each other after we started to notice we were walking between the two areas. Like one was an area of higher gravity, more dense, more condensed."

One of the most amazing aspects I've witnessed with Salvia is this sort of Collective experience...

I've done some major session with a group of friends (4-5 hours of passing the bong around the circle) & we've certainly thrown & pulled each other to & from a variety of dimensions/planets...

The image of the "woman" can certainly be Mary the Sheepardess perhaps acting as matron/guide as you the young child/consciousness learn the skills of navagating in 5D?

I've personally climbed down the ladder of my own DNA with stop-overs into my own past... observing my self as an infant, child, teen-ager...

A friend has often reported "playing with the hyper-goo" the hyper-dimensional substance usually encountered in the form of an angle or veil. Similarly I've recalabrated a sort of cosmic clock composed of hyperdimensional shapes each shape composing a diety of it's own... The flashing geometric (hypermetric) shape?

Pay close attention to those few words that are available upon reaching the linguistic stage of your return trip... as Salvia Mission can certainly bring you to a Post-linguistic hyperspace.

Also, that super soberness has powerful healing qualities... From sobering someone up at the ead of a major party... healing hangovers, Stomach cramps... menstrual issues...

Wow.. such wonderful tails eh?
 
 
solid~liquid onwards
08:15 / 07.05.02
i was with manga at our camping thing. my experience was somewhat different, i somehow felt that it didnt live up to my first trip, but with hindsight, i can see it was a totally different kind of experience. :P

i was smoking from a bong, when the same feeling came over me, the sort of distortions, but instead of lying back and flowing with it, like i did last first time, i lit up some more and began to smoke, while i was smoking from a bong, a pair of teeth (no lips) formed from the darkness, sucking at the other side of pipe, i closed my eyes and began counting, as i held in the smoke, and the workds echoed in my insides as i spelt them out in my brain, i then lay down, and i started to hear voices, althopugh afterwards i could remember what was said, i can no longer remember. after the voices, there was a noise, like an orchestra far away playing some really cool music. There was no obvious come down.

since i was in the tent on my own at that point, i thought i'd see if salvia affected astral projecting/OBE , o i used my techiniqes, and in a matter of minutes i had reached the vibrational seperation stage (which would normally take at least half an hour of relaxation and meditation), but i couldnt go any further than that.
 
 
Mr Tricks
20:39 / 16.05.02
"...I'd see if salvia affected astral projecting/OBE , I used my techiniqes, and in a matter of minutes i had reached the vibrational seperation stage (which would normally take at least half an hour of relaxation and meditation), but i couldnt go any further than that."

Just wondering if you've made any more progress on this front?

Just repoted 4 of my Plants into larger pots... in time for the new Moon, Still have one cutting in water waiting for soil... that puts me upto about 7 plants...

Anyone else tending to live plant?
 
 
solid~liquid onwards
21:02 / 16.05.02
"...I'd see if salvia affected astral projecting/OBE , I used my techiniqes, and in a matter of minutes i had reached the vibrational seperation stage (which would normally take at least half an hour of relaxation and meditation), but i couldnt go any further than that."

Just wondering if you've made any more progress on this front?

h3h, you gotta be joking...everythings on hold right now for me exams
after me exmas are done, i dunno if i'd use salvia for projecting...it seems too much like a short cut and would make the experience seem less valid to me.
 
 
cusm
01:13 / 17.05.02
Anyone else tending to live plant?

Not yet, but I'm considering replacing part of my lawn with Canary Reed Grass
 
 
solid~liquid onwards
07:32 / 17.05.02
"h3h, you gotta be joking...everythings on hold right now for me exams"

ironically about 15 minutes ago i had my first completely spontaneous OBE.
 
 
Oresa delta 20
18:06 / 22.05.02
Has anyone ever tried mixing salvia with any other hallucinogens?? A while back, i read that nutmeg was a powerful hallucinogen, and tried some, but with no result. Perhaps i didn't use enough, but what i was really thinking, was if it would be at all beneficial to mix nutmeg and salvia. Maybe this would just mess up the trip. Has anyone else ever tried mixing salvia with nutmeg, or anything else for that matter??
 
 
grant
18:09 / 22.05.02
That sounds like a nightmare.

Nutmeg itself is nightmare.

Really, don't do it. Urk. Unless you like that hangover feeling so much, you want to live with it for two days.
 
 
cusm
19:16 / 22.05.02
Nutmeg is a neuraltoxin. There's an old trick where you put a teaspoon of nutmeg in a glass of coke and drink it, then wait about 20 minutes or so. You get a cheap 15 second buzz that really isn't worth the headache that follows.
 
 
Mr Tricks
19:41 / 22.05.02
Smoked salvia as a chaser to a DMT session... WOW

Smoked it after a night of e(I know it's not a hallucinogen but still) very nice...

Haven't tried it (yet) but I've seen some people heve some PROFOUND experiences while on Mushrooms...

Pot & Salvia... great fun.

Alchol & Salvia seems to act as a catylist for those having trouble "connecting" with the plant.

Never bothered with nutmeg... seems like I won't.
 
 
Oresa delta 20
21:59 / 23.05.02
thanks for the warnings. i've never used enough nutmeg to get to the stage of heart palpitations and projectile vomiting, so i guess i've been fairly lucky.

what i might try is salvia + extreme sleep deprivation. one of my friends told me that if you stay awake for more than three days straight, you start to trip. Not sure how easy it would be to stay awake that long though.
 
 
cusm
01:05 / 24.05.02
Careful with the sleep-dep. What happens (as a generalization), is the parts of your brain you usually use become so deprived of seratonin that they stop processing. So, your brain reroutes around the brownouts to parts that had rested before, giving the brown out parts time to regenerate a little. The result is a lot like acid in that you free associate and things swim together. However, also like acid and a good bit more so, you are permanently changing the pathways in your brain at that point. Its not the kind of thing that'll (likely) give you damage, but it can cause changes to your personality and outlook. Stick to LSD if you want that trip, its a safer ride. If you do do the sleep dep ride, its best in the context of a vision quest. You're going to rewrite your brain in the process of it. You might as well do so in a constructive manner.
 
 
solid~liquid onwards
12:46 / 25.05.02
manga, i havent really seen you since the last day of school party thing, where you were smoking lots of salvia, you spent some time lying on your back in the sand, and you were standing on a big rock for a while too...the sun had almost set behind you, you were just a black shadow on a dark red backround...so what happened?

fi said she saw big fishies in the sky ^_^

i just got quite drunk... no dobt youve heard something of what happened when myself dave, dave and eughan got back to daves house :P
 
 
Oresa delta 20
19:22 / 25.05.02
i saw snakes and things dancing around inside the campfire, and then when i went up the rock, i could see people - glowing different colours - coming up out of the water. it was mad, and great, and probably fairly dangerous. hell, thomas sprained his ankle getting down off the rock, and he hadn't smoked anything. guess i'm just cooler than he is :P
 
 
solid~liquid onwards
16:25 / 26.05.02
h3h, m@d.

im ou of money on me phone, so i couldnt reply to you txt..but afterwards. to cut a long story short, dave R wore womens underwear and had sex with a boot....when i say boot, i actually mean boot, a knee high leather one, belonging to dave G's sister...eugahn in a bra is something i wish never to see again....he later used the same bra to pleasure himself...me dave R and eog were in daves big sisters room, cos she was at uni or college or something.

heres a tip...dont drink salvia...its quite unplesent, even when mixed with cocoa powder and milk.

i'll see you at school tmrw for the maths exam, so i will tell more disturbing tales of that fateful night.
 
 
Mr Tricks
20:19 / 29.05.02
Jeeeze.... Do tell.
 
  

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