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15:38 / 22.04.05

Fox news is the the little bitch voice of the Bush agenda and has really started basically hinting that an attack in the United States will most likely happen...soon. Also some real strange stuff on the ability to use nuclear force is up for vote on the Hill today. So when and where...any thoughts or psychic twinges out there?

23:17 / 22.04.05

Don't have a TV. Any chance you can provide some links?

Without anything else to go on, I'd say this is typical Administration scaremongering, maybe an attempt to get attention off DeLay for five minutes or so. Bush & Co. have shown no hesitation in bringing the boogeyman to bear whenever they feel their grasp slipping.

unheimlich manoeuvre

23:25 / 22.04.05

Yes, Fox News is banging the war drum again.
For a Democracy to be pushed into War there has to be a perceived outside threat. So is Iran really back on the agenda?
(Depleted uranium has been used by the military for some years.)

alejandrodelloco

13:47 / 23.04.05

This is so... predictable.

15:13 / 23.04.05

Deja vu... sattelite photos 'clearly showing nuclear sites' and secret information coming mainly from exile groups... (sigh)

20:17 / 23.04.05

The only way...once again, that we can show the world that we mean business is to one, take over control of what is left of the mideast for it's oil resources, and then that can be done very easily if we level Iran with any number of new nukes that the Bush Imps are itching to use since the Iran 80's situation. But first, we need a reason...an excuse...another sideshow event of barbaric proportions to let the world know we are in fact the victims here. All port cities should beware. They have also been doing much hinting at how no-one can tell what comes in the boxes at these ports.
The stock market will fall first and then ...DUCK!

20:24 / 23.04.05

Also..it sucks knowing that even discussing anything like this puts any of us in danger at this point. Everyday I pray that this whole thing will end and these political evil-doers will find god at last and see the reality of what they are doing. Iran is full of really descent people as was Iraq and we should all feel alot more guilty for the horror that we have brought to these people already. I just can't imagine that we would still not feel it's enough with the wealth we have stolen from these people. Global warming is going to make it hard to survive without oil...and that is about it for these people.

23:04 / 23.04.05

Also some real strange stuff on the ability to use nuclear force is up for vote on the Hill today.

Hokayyy, back up just a bit. I think what you're referring to is the "nuclear option" being discussed in Congress right now. It's only a nickname for a proposal to eliminate filibustering. Nothing to do with nukes whatsoever.

04:04 / 24.04.05

Hok..your ever correct oh gold one. What else do you have to add or are you going to correct my spelling next. I heard this in passing and really thought that they were refering to an actual Nuclear Option. After reading the article it was strange to see that in fact it had nothing to do with anything nuclear. Again, does anybody have any gut level feelings about this or are you all so stuck in a world of backing up your arguments with articles and media links which are basically total flippin garbage. Which side are you on? Link for ya health

20:02 / 24.04.05

Ibis was correcting you because you're off-base and seem to be dead set on shouting about Evangelical Nuclear Holocaust.

"Again, does anybody have any gut level feelings about this or are you all so stuck in a world of backing up your arguments with articles and media links which are basically total flippin garbage."

This is a pisstake, right? You're actually saying gut instinct is more important than researched information and hard evidence? With a straight face?

20:17 / 24.04.05

1. Not an argument. A statement of fact.
2. Not a media link.
3. Yes, I am stuck in a world of relying on informational sources, rather than paranoia, to get my news.

20:52 / 24.04.05

Again please...stop with the damned editing nonsense. Did you not read my last log and how I was seeing that I was mistaken. I didn't ask for your abuse, I asked for your thoughts on the topic. Go argue with someone else. I don’t log on this board for your condescending crap, so if you have nothing to add, don’t bother writing. As far as backing up your argument goes. Reading is believing
See how that works...add something for crying out loud.

22:13 / 24.04.05

Nobody gave you abuse. Keep acting like a twat and that'll change. In fact, I think it already has.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

22:35 / 24.04.05

Surely, if anything, Ibis's correction should have been somewhat reassuring? You know, made you feel better?

06:47 / 25.04.05

I have a gut feeling that the new Pope might be a shape-changing Lizard from Planet X, and he's somehow implanted an organic transmitter in my brain dampening my psychic abilities and urging me to kill prostitutes by shoe-bombing.

There's no evidence for it, but it's my gut instinct.

07:21 / 25.04.05

Joke-suit. Shurely

12:58 / 25.04.05

One would hope so.

14:35 / 25.04.05

The Nuclear Option. "Wrapped in the sanctity of the US Constitution, the debate over the 'nuclear option' to end judicial filibusters sounds patriotic, almost noble."

Google News - "Nuclear Option".

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

15:52 / 25.04.05

"You mean we're not threatened with imminent nuclear armageddon? Oh, PISS." (sulks)

Our Lady Has Left the Building

17:29 / 25.04.05

I think it was on 'Outfoxed' that it was pointed out that it suits the far right wing agenda that Fox News supports to have the citizenry convinced that the Commies stinking Arabs are coming to murder them, it makes them more compliant to President Bush's message of "Well, there's nothing we can do to stop them, but let me take away the rights of gays to marry or women to have abortions anyway"

alejandrodelloco

18:06 / 25.04.05

It should still be pointed out that Fox News is showing a documentary tonight about Iran being all full of nookyoolur evils.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

18:49 / 25.04.05

Everyday I pray that this whole thing will end and these political evil-doers will find god at last

They already have. As did Peter Sutcliffe.

02:56 / 26.04.05

Gut feeling and then BLAMO!!!

...and to the flamers. Go Die.

03:07 / 26.04.05

Pisstake..Twat what the hell. Your a moderator? What did I say in this that deserved that. And Yes, I call that abuse.

03:19 / 26.04.05

Ganesh it has been awhile, and your wit is still right on. I had to hang out with Rick James and the Mary Jane Girls for a few years. I didn't know you were so tight with the Ladys

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

07:34 / 26.04.05

Okay, maybe I was a little harsh. Apologies.

BUT... this could be an interesting thread, if we could actually stick to, you know, backing up our arguments and stuff?

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

07:36 / 26.04.05

Aaand... back to the topic at hand.

Anyone worried about North Korea? They seem to be getting much more stroppy than Iran recently. How much is just sabre-rattling, and how much is actually a worry?

10:39 / 26.04.05

I don't worry. If NorKor decide to go to war on America/"The West" there's fuck all I can do about it anyway.

14:17 / 26.04.05

Read above Blamo!!! that is my whole thing in a nutshell and the article came out yesterday. I really think north Kor is a sideshow to the sideshow. They would most likely attack bases out there or maybe Japan...who cares. We need all of the oil in the world. It is all about the oil. Bush is an OIL MAN. Texas? Him and the vice want to control all of the oil in the world. Anyone in colonial England better get a Parka with batteries because the CO2 Cascade is going to cover all of Europe in ice in a matter of years...not decades. 9 Hurricanes are expected to tear a new hole in the atlantic this summer. Natures own Nuclear bomb.

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15:23 / 26.04.05

Morpheus, could you possibly step down from the podium and explain your argument / reasoning in less cod-Nostradamus demagogue stylee?

I'm interested in the point you are making, if only you weren't coming across like a raggedy man with a skin full of methylated spirits and a copy of the Gideons Bible.

Your point is intriguing, I spent the weekend in the ocmpany of a New Zealander who was relating the preparation which is already occurring in that part of the world in readiness for the destructiono f the ozone and climate change. She finds it darkly bemusing that the people and government of this lovely little island UK really do not have it right at the top of the political agenda in the lead up to a general election. As far as the NZ government and population are concerned, it's time to build the Bucky Fullminster Geodesic Domes and stock up on SunBlock and clean H20...(she says)

17:06 / 26.04.05

Here's your moneyshot and you better pack your wet wipes with some wool socks ya poor bastards. It's a bit old, last year, but...you got less time then you think. And you don't know me. I'm more like a voodoo priest king/anti-christ. With a bone gun.

18:04 / 26.04.05

Mmm, I remember reading this, or a similar article - as well as the recent Time Out feature on 'flooded London' - and experiencing a nanosecond of 'what can we do?' anxiety, flickering through 'oh well, dooooomed' resignation then forgetting about it altogether. I'm not sure where this familiar-to-the-point-of-contempt response comes from - maybe I'm nervously habituated to expect/accommodate the spectre of looming global disaster in the post-911 New American Century, maybe I've always been a hopelessly apathetic sheeple without a bone gun - but, increasingly, I'm finding it difficult to get excited at this sort of pronouncement of impending catastrophe.

The fact that it's delivered with a hint of 'you're fucked, Yurpeens' smugness is neither here nor there. If anything, it actually compounds my sense of shruggy 'if it happens, it happens; if it doesn't, it doesn't' fatalism.

*shrugs*

If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't.

21:03 / 26.04.05

I'm finding it difficult to get excited at this sort of pronouncement of impending catastrophe.

I have to agree. While I'm concerned about environmental issues and interested in technology that would lessen our negative impact on the earth... I too find doomsday prophecies counterproductive at worst and pointless at best. People have been predicting the imminent end of the world for thousands of years... in fact, side note, there's a really good book called The Last Apocalypse (would link but Internet's misbehaving) all about world politics and celestial events around the time of 1000AD that had lots of people quite sure that the world was ending then... .

Anyway, on the topic of media being flippin garbage I think most of us can probably agree that Fox News is one Maury Povich short of being A Current Affair. Republican lackeys they may be, but hardly the go-to source for reliable word on the nuances of geopolitical news.

Personally, I'm predicting a continuing backlash against Republicans that will stymie all their more radical/Neocon plans for the near future. Public opinion roundly rebuked them on the Terry Schiavo debacle, and is very cool toward Bush's Social Security agenda (supposedly #1 domestic issue) as well. Now that all the hoopla around the election has died down, Americans appear to be moving into the middle once again. I highly doubt now (meaning in the next few years) is the time to launch any new military offensives, even from the POV of Repubs & Bush.

alejandrodelloco

23:51 / 26.04.05

Naw, but they are still gonna drum it up so they can start the ol' invasion when the time is right. Wankers.

01:05 / 27.04.05

Christ, Morpheus. What are you trying to say by throwing around a pack of random articles?

One about climate change, one from FreeRepublic, a notoriously stupid neo-con website (Any article which quotes Jerome 'Swift Boat Vet' Corsi as a legitimate source about Iran's EMP capability...hahahahaa I'm sorry I can't even finish that statement without laughing) and an article from The Nation about Bush's shenanigans with the media.

I dunno. I'm trying to connect the dots here but I don't see anything. Because if it has to do with this topic, well... the three or four do not an impending war with Iran make.

As a side note, maybe we do need a seperate thread about the filibuster issue.

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