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Ganesh
19:52 / 22.08.05
It was at least semi-serious: I was curious as to whether he'd even halfway managed to follow through with the 'I want to stop myself posting here' thing, whether the password-scrambly thing had failed or whether he'd had a spare suit kicking around.

Or, as you say, whether he's simply a log-happy ratboy.
 
 
grant
16:18 / 23.08.05
Note to all: am getting pressure from work to pick up the pace, so will be spending less time on Barbelith for a bit.

Not gone, just not quite as omnipresent.
 
 
Ganesh
16:21 / 23.08.05
Just be sure to start an 'I'M BAAAACK' thread when you return to full omnipresence, Grant.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:27 / 23.08.05
Unless you can prove to my satisfaction that you have a cock, Grant, I ain't interested.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
07:42 / 24.08.05
I understand that Sypha's password did not actually get scrambled, so that's still his old suit.

Syph, if you're reading this... I'm sorry, but coming back on the board right after your "ban me" thread, without any kind of explanation or apology--that's staggeringly unwise. You do understand that a lot of people are pretty angry with you?
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
07:44 / 24.08.05
Assuming ze has the self-awareness to care what other people think...
 
 
Smoothly
00:17 / 25.08.05
What's the benefit of locking it, exactly? Don't we just prevent JC from coming back and clarifying that it's just a big funny joke. If we don't want it on the board, don't we just delete it (it'll still be on the database if there is a legal issue).
 
 
Char Aina
00:22 / 25.08.05
a lot of people are pretty angry with you

...and lots of others find you risible as fuck.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
00:27 / 25.08.05
We've done both actually.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
00:28 / 25.08.05
That's to Smoothly but it works wrt Sypha as well!!! See what I did there!
 
 
Ariadne
06:27 / 25.08.05
The Night Watch thread in Film, TV and Theatre lacks a summary - can someone get creative? Ta.
 
 
Triplets
13:56 / 25.08.05
I really hope Tom doesn't look at the Conversation today.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
14:09 / 25.08.05
Does someone want to explain to me what's going on before I go mental with the locking and deleting?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
14:16 / 25.08.05
Well, part one is that you shouldn't be proposing locking and deleting just because you don't understand something, if only because it wastes the time of the moderators who have to disagree those moves, as I just had to with Triplets' thread. I keep trying to explain in this thread that, whereas distributed moderation allows moderators to act as partial entities, a purely personal motivation for a moderator proposal is not a good motivation.

Part two: Keggers started a thread with some instructions on how to be a guy. Whether sincere or ironic to start, this rapidly extended to parody, and from that thread a large number of other threads spun off making jokes based on the structure of this original thread.
 
 
Triplets
14:17 / 25.08.05
Possible joke thread by Keggers (the how to be a guy one) > more joke threads > blatantly stupid iteration of joke thread by me to wear it out (guess which one)
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
15:09 / 25.08.05
The threads in the conversation don't strike me as being more or less fluffy than anything else that gets posted there, they're just potentially more irksome because of repetition. In another forum locking or deleting would be perfectly justified, but The Conversation has always been the home of sugar-fuelled logorrhea...
 
 
Ganesh
15:46 / 25.08.05
I really hope the Baby Jesus doesn't look at the Conversation either. It'd make Him cry. We should all be ashamed.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
16:05 / 25.08.05
So it's my fault for not being on Barbelith all morning then is it? And somehow it's also my fault for asking here for an explanation of what's going on rather than assuming the worst and going to do cleanup? If you like, you could blame me for all this happening whilst I wasn't here and then that's all done and dusted.
 
 
Char Aina
17:32 / 25.08.05
So it's my fault for not being on Barbelith all morning then is it?
yes.
yes it is.
you should have been here to stop the madness.

And somehow it's also my fault for asking here for an explanation of what's going on rather than assuming the worst and going to do cleanup?
oh god, yes.
you should have been here to threaten to go mental with the locking and deleting, not ask nicely what was up.

If you like, you could blame me for all this happening whilst I wasn't here and then that's all done and dusted.
could i?
that would be super,
thank you!
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
19:43 / 25.08.05
Pretty much what toksik said, really, Flowers. It was not your fault for not being there, because it is not your duty to delete posts in the Convo that you don't understand. Moving to delete a thread for the reason you gave in the moderation request was unnecessary labour for other moderators, as it simply forced another moderator to counteract your motion and Triplets' slightly random self-abnegation. As I said, moderator actions based _purely_ on what you are not able to follow are not good moderation actions, nor is threatening to create a series of pointless moderation requests in order to express frustration at not having been part of a particular moment a wise action to take in the Conversation (or, for that matter, elsewhere).
 
 
Triplets
20:04 / 25.08.05
Hasty p'raps, not random! "Teh Madness" has stopped now, so there's no need for a hollow shell of a thread to be shambling about, if only on an aesthetic level.
 
 
Olulabelle
20:40 / 26.08.05
Reading this thread after a few weeks away is mind boggling.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
13:40 / 04.09.05
Music mods: you might want to pop along to the Robbie/Morrison thread and sort out those images.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
00:15 / 05.09.05
Erm.... just wondering if anything should be done about white_zoot-suit_riot's sliminess? -- as explained more fully here. I'll understand if not and I'm more than prepared to take matters into my own hands, if need be....

So what do you reckon? Is he out of order, or should I put the sponge and the rusty spanner down?....
 
 
Spatula Clarke
01:05 / 05.09.05
First, answer me this: what exactly do you propose we do?
 
 
Mazarine
01:16 / 05.09.05
Well, I don't reckon there's actually much the mods can do in this scenario. I suppose you could complain directly to his web host, but without a copyright on the name, I'm not really sure what can be done.

Second question, and pardon me if I'm just being a bit thick, but how'd you find out it was white zoot suit that nicked the name?
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
01:17 / 05.09.05
No idea, really. I'm new to this... I was hoping one of you would provide me with an answer. Am I wrong to be annoyed by this, do you think? (sincere question)
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
01:24 / 05.09.05
Sally, I found out because he was dumb enough to put the same photograph on the other site as he had here. I though he looked familiar, but Ms. Triplets superior memory wasn't fooled for a second. BTW, he's since changed his photo on the other site.

I've actually Emailed him already (and also, the web host) asking him to explain why he did this (as his actions could, theoretically cause shit for my future [ahem] reputation and livelihood); and am currently engaged with a conversation with him via his guestbook, where I've asked him to do "the honourable thing".
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
01:25 / 05.09.05
Indeed, paranoidwriter: what the fuck are you on about now, you funny little man? Do you think you have some kind of claim on the compound word 'paranoidwriter' that Barbelith moderators can enforce? If so, that's really, really, really fucking funny.

I think there's a simple solution: change your username on Barbelith. You might benefit from this, in the long term! In mysterious ways!
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
01:30 / 05.09.05
I was building a career out of this compound word. If I were in a band called "paranoid writers" would I be remiss to feel the same way if someone else went around using the same name?

Seriously, I'm REALLY not sure about all this. I'm asking for advice.
 
 
Mazarine
01:38 / 05.09.05
It looks like the two of you have reached some kind of resolution- he's agreed to come up with a new site, so I think it's premature for us to advise you any further about a scenario that's out of mod juristiction and which hasn't yet happened. He's agreed to forfeit the name. If he does, super, if he doesn't, then it would be time to ask for advice. But since this is the moderation requests thread, and you're not actually requesting a moderation, I would suggest that you start up a seperate thread, probably in conversation.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
01:38 / 05.09.05
as his actions could, theoretically cause shit for my future [ahem] reputation and livelihood

How?

Are you seriously intending to use the name 'paranoidwriter' in a, er, professional capacity?

Have you actually copyrighted the name?
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
01:42 / 05.09.05
Thanks, Sally. You're right, of course. I guess I just wanted to highlight the fact that he's a fellow member... I think...Oh, I dunno...

Petey Shaftoe is teh Computer: www.paranoidwriter.com
 
 
Mazarine
01:51 / 05.09.05
It's okay, I can see how it'd be upsetting. I reckon I'd be pretty irate too. Just understand that what the mods can do outside the board is pretty much, if not actually, nothing, and that this isn't the forum in which to ask for such advice.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
01:52 / 05.09.05
Indeed. Apologies all round.
 
  

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