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Regrettable Juvenilia

16:45 / 29.11.07

I think the only solution is individual banning threads for Seth, Haus, E Randy Dupre, and me.

Each banning thread should run for a month, and they should be posted in the following fora:

Seth - Temple
Haus - Head Shop
E Randy Dupre - Games Games Games and Gamesplay
Flyboy's Final Flight - Music

16:57 / 29.11.07

Well, I don't care to argue this further.

Argue it further? You've not even attempted to argue it once yet, just repeated that it's not acceptable. How is that an argument?

16:57 / 29.11.07

Interestingly, I can banned mysel.

Itchy trigger finger...

Less searchable M0rd4nt

20:12 / 29.11.07

I can banned mysel.

Needs macro.

ONLY NICE THINGS

20:36 / 29.11.07

Maybe private, personal jokes, especially of violent nature, are best left out of a public forum.

Just to be clear, I had no knowledge Seth was going to do this - I've been on holiday. But I don't mind that he _has_.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

21:45 / 29.11.07

HOW DO I BANNED SELF?

09:08 / 30.11.07

Thank God you've checked in, Haus. I was starting to worry there.

10:09 / 30.11.07

I think the only solution is individual banning threads for Seth, Haus, E Randy Dupre, and me.

No. The only solution is anti-banning threads before people can even leave of their own accord. When consensus is reached that a person is worth too much to the site to leave then Tom is contacted to hack their computer and leave it permanently locked onto Barbelith.

Anti-ban GGM! Anti-ban Ganesh! Anti-ban Nina! Anti-ban Fly before he can leave! Anti-ban Haus for daring to take a holiday! Anti-ban Mordent and Alas just to play it safe! Bring back the lost ones and force all others to stay (except for, y'know, the undesirables).

Welcome to Barbelith. You'll never leave.

Closed for Business Time

10:27 / 30.11.07

Seconded! Some kinda RF tagging, chips implanted into the cortex? Come on Evil Scientist, do your evil science bit, only for the greater good.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

10:48 / 30.11.07

I can't banned mysel?

11:07 / 30.11.07

Well you can, but then we will rapidly anti-ban you. There is no escape.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

18:26 / 30.11.07

Meanwhile, back at the ranch:

in the Queterosexual thread Glenn saw fit to post this:

(Offtopic) 'Do You Listen to Radiohead' has made my day. Thanks Flyboy! (End Offtopic)

Just restrained myself from posting the following in response:

Okay, time out. Minor offtopica by people who are invested in and regularly contribute meaningful content to the HS is one thing; being a douche is something else. Now, various people have put a lot of thought into this thread, which deals with highly-charged topics around some of the most sensitive aspects of people's lives and personalities. This makes it a very bad place for a borderline troll to engage in borderline trolling. If you want to celebrate random threads that Flyboy doesn't like, we have topics for that.

I speak here both as a moderator and as a private individual when I say: Glenn. Shut the fuck up.

Am moving G's post for deletion instead of initiating further throt.

19:56 / 30.11.07

While Glenn is obviously png, atm, and has previously, ah, hassled Flyboy &c I think his post there is entirely sincere. I mean, if I wrote the exact same words, if I read the HeadShop (I could have and would've meant it entirely,) in that space it wouldn't be borderline trolling would it? Or, you know, I used to fight with Flux quite often but I did thank him for a good link once or twice, and meant it then.

Just a possibility.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

20:12 / 30.11.07

I'd probably move to delete ATM even if you'd done it. It's just not really necessary, is it? And it's frustrating... I mean, I hardly ever post to the HS these days (for reasons which should be readily apparent to anyone who's read my old posts) so when I do it's always one of two things.

Thing one is the Mod Hat post ("Mod hat: This thread is for the discussion of discussy thing, and your post is about Monster Trucks. Please take discussion of Monster Trucks to an appropriate thread and have a lovely day").

Thing Two is where I read the thread, re-read teh thread, stew over a response for days/weeks, write it out in Wordpad, delete it again, read stuff other people have written on the board, read stuff other people have written elsewhere, Google references, delete the rtf file, re-write the rtf file, cut and paste to the posting window only to close same (repeat 67 times) and you know what really floats my boat after that? A borderline troll of verifiable borderline trollery swinging by to use the thread to tell another poster how much he likes the thread that the other poster has obliquely registered dislike of, purely for the purposes of windup.

tl;dr I would quite like it if the Headshop was not to be filled up with shit or at least filled up with shit at a reduced rate, plz+kthxbai.

20:38 / 30.11.07

No, well, it's entirely your remit to delete it, and you're basically right, fine aye, but i) it's a tiny post and ii) I do think Glenn is trying to engage w/the board in more fruitful fashion of recent, so maybe not write that book yet?

Less searchable M0rd4nt

21:23 / 30.11.07

Well, I think we're down to yet another iteration of the clean-slate thing, aren't we. Is it correct to treat every single post in exactly the same way, or is it more useful to factor in a poster's history?

In any case, distributed moderation is distributed. The post is still there atm and I'm sure that if I'm over-reacting to Glenn's lighthearted sideways comedy someone will veto.

01:02 / 01.12.07

I agreed it. Why keep it?

Essential Dazzler

03:44 / 01.12.07

Can someone edit the spoilers out of the season specific The Wire threads?

I finished Season 1 and read the thread. It wasn't long before I found out that [+] [-] Spoiler And when I finish season 2 I get 6 POSTS into the thread before I read about a funeral that hasn't happened!

Glenn Close But No Cigar

09:57 / 01.12.07

Hi Mordant!

Telling me to Shut the fuck up is, I feel, a bit over the top given that all I wrote was:

(Offtopic) 'Do You Listen to Radiohead' has made my day. Thanks Flyboy! (End Offtopic)

To walk you through what I meant by this, when I wrote (Offtopic) I was indicating that my post was not about queterosexuals, allowing readers who were only interested in reading about queterosexuals to skip it. When I wrote 'Do You Listen to Radiohead' has made my day I meant that the mighty manifesto for the myspace generation Flyboy linked to is (unintentionally) very funny, and made me smile. When I wrote Thanks Flyboy!, I was thanking Flyboy for posting that link, even though, strictly speaking, it was not on the topic of queterosexuals.

While I'm not really bothered that you've moved to have my teeny tiny post deleted (I can always PM Flyboy my thanks), I am bothered that you've told me to Shut the fuck up. An apology would be nice.

10:30 / 01.12.07

Unfortunately, this is the reward you reap for being a dick previously. Everything you write seems dickish.

Suck it up.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

11:16 / 01.12.07

Essentially, yeah.

Glenn Close But No Cigar

11:20 / 01.12.07

Hi Randy!

Thanks for the heads-up! It'd be great if you could tell me how long I can expect everything I write to seem dickish, and how long, exactly, I am expected to suck it up. Thanks!

Less searchable M0rd4nt

11:22 / 01.12.07

You were offtopic, you were poking, and you'd started screwing around in a perfectly good thread in a generally non-screwy-aroundy forum. Based on past form, I thought it best to shut you down before you got up a good head of steam.

I will apologise for telling you to shut the fuck up. The rest of it you're just going to have to suck up.

Glenn Close But No Cigar

11:52 / 01.12.07

You were off-topic

That's why I began and ended my post with the word >(Offtopic), allowing readers who were only interested in reading about queterosexuals ignore it, should its 11 words impede their enjoyment of the thread. I believe doing that is considered to be good manners?

you were poking

Poking whom, and with what?

you started screwing around

Apparently if I'm not poking I'm screwing...

Based on past form

Well, prior to thanking Flyboy for him non-queterosexual link, my most recent posts in Headshop have been in the Nietzsche, Europe and Islam thread. Whatever other virtues they may have or lack, they are serious, and involve not a single poke or screw.

I will apologise for telling you to shut the fuck up

Great! I look forward to you doing so!

13:26 / 01.12.07

Hi Glenn! You'll need to suck it up until each individual person here decides that you don't have to any longer. Thanks for writing!

Glenn Close But No Cigar

15:41 / 01.12.07

No, thank you, Randy! Giving me the benefit of the doubt like Falcon did above on the basis that, as ze wrote, Glenn is trying to engage w/the board in more fruitful fashion of recent would of course be very, very bad for Barbelith. After all, it's only the firm but fair attentions of posters like you that prevent me from unleashing trollmageddon by doing something like, ooh let's see, beginning a perfectly sensible thread in Comics! You're saving me from myself, you really are.

Regrettable Juvenilia

16:57 / 01.12.07

I have to say, much as I've not been a fan of the vast majority of what Glenn has posted to the board that I've read, I would not have agreed with that moderation request.

17:14 / 01.12.07

Hi Glenn! Right now might be a good time to think back to all the times that I've jumped into one of the you-centred shitfests in the past. All those no times that's happened, boy, it sure was good that I was there, eh? It's clearly a form of harassment, is what it is. That I've purposefully ignored it all because others had it covered? Fucking hell, what a wanker I was! Not telling you to piss off? It's a fucking crime, is what it is!

Maybe, if you were even half-serious about reviewing your approach to the board, you could have addressed Mordant's post without being a patronising shithead (read: being you) and kicking off yet another round of you-centred rubbish? Crazy idea, I know, but I'm like that! Bonkers!

Glenn Close But No Cigar

17:56 / 01.12.07

Maybe, if you were even half-serious about reviewing your approach to the board, you could have addressed Mordant's post without being a patronising shithead (read: being you)

Thing is, Randy old chap, when one person tells another to Shut the fuck up, or indeed when one person calls another a shithead, it's not exactly incumbent upon the recipient of the abuse to play nice. For all my many and varied failings, I've never got all sweary Mary with another board member, preferring to defuse difficult situations with a soothing picture of the cast of Last of the Summer Wine. If only 'meat space' conflicts were approached in this manner, I believe that we would be a step closer to a perfect world.

ONLY NICE THINGS

19:40 / 01.12.07

It's pretty clear what Glenn has to do here to limit the amount of time post-dickish action that he receives treatment as if on the balance of probability about to indulge in dickish action again at any moment, isn't it? The clue, surely, is in the question?

Less searchable M0rd4nt

20:38 / 01.12.07

Have already apologised for swearings. Am standing by mod action + reasons given for same. Am now stepping away from keyboard and going for a nice long walk.

10:54 / 03.12.07

preferring to defuse difficult situations with a soothing picture of the cast of Last of the Summer Wine.

Hmm, do you genuinely think that those pictures sooth people? They don't, and my personal opinion is that you didn't post them to "sooth" people down, rather you did it to wind people up.

Regrettable Juvenilia

12:20 / 03.12.07

Could we have some discussion about why Grant's influence on your life was locked, rather than giving deviant at least the opportunity to clarify which Grant ze was on about?

Glenn Close But No Cigar

12:21 / 03.12.07

They're a balm, Evil Scientist, a balm.

That said, if they're not working as intended, perhaps it's time to change the medicine. In the future, I'll post images of the cast of 'Allo, Allo!, a single pixel wide.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

14:29 / 03.12.07

Re: The Grant thread, here's what I wrote in Barbannoy on the topic. (Full disclosure: I did not put in the mod request but I was one of the people who okayed it.)

I don't see why it was locked, unless to protect deviant from further mockery and us from some truly godawful posts from those who would rather Barbelith were the aforementioned fan site. --Haus

Well, that was basically the reason given in the mod request. I wasn't sure whether to veto it at first but I then I had visions of the thing degenerating into a six-page ocillation between snark and swingball, generating little actual content but potentially much ill-feeling. We can unlock it again if it was really that bad of a decision. --me

I'd be interested in getting other peoples' input here, because I honestly thought it was the best course at the time and now I'm worried that it was unnecessary.

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