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22:38 / 20.10.07
Noted.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
06:58 / 21.10.07
Sigh, because I'm an arse and an idiot, I moved to hyperlink the link here before reading the full text of Mordant's entry. If other Conversation mods agree the changes, could someone mod it back to the unlinked state please? I'd do it myself but I'm going to spend the rest of the day using the Ludovico technique to teach myself to read ALL of what someone writes before moderating it.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
07:18 / 21.10.07
Phew, Lula has saved the day!
 
 
Janean Patience
10:21 / 24.10.07
Leonard Cohen's name is spelt wrong in the abstract of the Leonard Cohen thread. In imitation of the great man, I'd smile lugubriously and enigmatically in approval if it were changed.
 
 
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14:58 / 24.10.07
Could a Switchboard mod please hyperlink these and alter them so they don't break the third wall? Thanks.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:26 / 26.10.07
I'm going to propose that this thread on "the hipster" be moved to the Conversation, since it has been demonstrated once again that Barbelith has little more to say about the term than "those trendy people, who are not like me".
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
08:40 / 26.10.07
Please do. I've been watching the thing in the hopes that it might develop into something worthwhile. It has not.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
08:58 / 26.10.07
Ironically, there's a good chance that moving it to Convo will do that, just by the mere exposure to the masses effect..

But, hmmm. Headshop seems a little bit traction-less atm. What to do?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
09:19 / 26.10.07
I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:29 / 26.10.07
The next step with that hipster thread is probably to lock it, since it's just a duplicate of an existing thread which it already links to.
 
 
Closed for Business Time
10:35 / 26.10.07
Petey are rights.
 
 
EvskiG
19:37 / 26.10.07
I'm a bit surprised by this, really.

I don't know to what extent the hipster as a distinct cultural subtype exists outside of New York, but over the last decade, most of which I spent living on the Lower East Side/Alphabet City, I've seen a certain subcultural group develop that shares certain cultural signifiers and self-identifies as "hipsters."

Once the topic popped up I thought it might be interesting to participate and trace the connections between this modern subculture -- to the extent it is a subculture -- and the beats, British dandyism, Oscar Wilde, John Waters, irony, artifice, the "two tears of kitsch," and so forth.

Lord knows I didn't intend my comments as any smug commentary on how I was superior to or more authentic than the group under consideration.

What am I missing? And why doesn't it belong in Head Shop?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
01:00 / 27.10.07
Actually, Ev, you seem to be making a better case for reworking it and sending it to the Art&Fashion, if it's looking at the cultural signifiers and fashion-specific cues. Though it is rather an old topic and it does run dangerously close to the sneering "examination."
 
 
HCE
14:41 / 27.10.07
Yeah, I agree -- why Head Shop rather than AF&D?
 
 
Spaniel
15:22 / 31.10.07
To any Comics mods who might swing by, I passed Deja Vroom's recent request as it was pretty straightforward, although I wish to point out that ze's reasoning was entirely inadequate. Ze has been PMed.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:40 / 31.10.07
His - deja vroom is Imperator Jade. I think there's a photo of him around here somewhere...
 
 
Spaniel
15:41 / 31.10.07
The Jade?
 
 
Spaniel
15:42 / 31.10.07
The manhunk?
 
 
Closed for Business Time
11:38 / 01.11.07
Could this thread be moved to the Lab, please?
 
 
electric monk
14:24 / 01.11.07
Elsewhere:

electric monk (prev. electric worm) - 15:23 / 01.11.07
Have PM'd Neville, asking that he propose the edit on the offending phrase.

West Baltimore Hausing Project (prev. Invisible CHaus Majickian) - 15:46 / 01.11.07
Really? Gosh.

I think I owe an explanation. I did a quick Google of Neville's suit to get an idea of the user's posting history. I didn't find anything egregious, but I admit I didn't check every entry. The suit might have previous that I missed. To me, this seems like a first offense. The poster admits ze's at least tipsy at the time of writing the post. I figured I'd give hir the chance to propose the edit so that, if ze has problems with the request, I could go back and forth via PM rather than in thread. My post in thread was to give everyone who reads the thread notice on what I'd done.

If I'm wrong to go about it this way, I accept that. My reasoning could be faulty. This poster might have racked up more bad will than I know of. (I only remember hir as an infrequent GEK poster.)

If my actions have upset anyone, I sincerely apologize and will do all that is within my power to make it right.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:44 / 01.11.07
Oh, I don't think it's a huge deal - I'm just not sure that as a community we object to the C-bomb quite in the way we might to other terms. That is, I think there's a question over whether this is a word that Barbelith does not condone. Arguably we should - this case his certainly been made before - but that state of affairs certainly doesn't stop anyone from registering their own discomfort with its use, and asking people not to use it as a favour to oneself. That's actually pretty much where we are with all tricky word use...
 
 
electric monk
16:26 / 01.11.07
I appreciate the feedback, Haus.
 
 
Olulabelle
19:47 / 01.11.07
Personally I hate having to read it when it's used in non-relevant or derogatory way, like in 'Howard ****'. I thought the basic policy was to **** the word and that's what people generally seem to do.

I don't really understand why you queried Electric Monk, Haus. Does it not bother you?
 
 
Closed for Business Time
20:04 / 01.11.07
Second that. That together with the Barbe-nice thread, what are you getting at, old chap?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:59 / 01.11.07
I have a sinister agenda. Cobra-LA!

But seriously, folks. Does it bother me? Well, not massively, no. If a man wants to call himself a ladypart, I don't occasion a strong emotional reaction in me. If a man uses the same term to describe a woman, it does. I try to avoid using it myself, because it bothers other people for reasons with which I am broadly sympathetic. However, a lot of things which happen specifically on Barbelith bother me or other people, and only some of those things are starred out. There is no established policy on many of these matters, although maybe there should be; there is only social consensus, as far as I know.

So, I responded with "gosh" to Monk's heads-up:

Have PM'd Neville, asking that he propose the edit on the offending phrase.

Because it struck me as an interesting thing to do, especially when Neville Barker is referring to himself, in an awkward bit of linguistic Anglophilia, as a person who likes Howard (Phillip Lovecraft).

So, hmmm. I wouldn't use the term myself, no. I certainly support the right of people to register unhappiness with the term, even when used to describe one's male self, and to ask people to refrain from using it. What was interesting to me there was the overlap of requesting that as a fellow member of Barbelith, and requesting it as a moderator. I'm not sure how one pulls those things apart - I hadn't really thought of it as a moderator thing until EM cited it here, but I guess that there is an element of maintaining the forum in flagging in-thread that there's been a contact made with Neville by PM.

So, yes. Interesting.
 
 
electric monk
03:03 / 02.11.07
You're Destro, surely.

What's funny, tho, is that I thought you were agog at the fact that I didn't just propose the edit myself. I did consider proposing the edit, actually. The word does make me react strongly whatever the context, and I'd rather not see it used here. I figured if I was going to enter into a discussion with Neville about this, it would be better for all involved if that happened privately. The note in-thread was in the interests of transparency.

I do hope I'm not going overboard on this.
 
 
Spaniel
12:12 / 09.11.07
Yichihyon has recently posted a rash of content free posts and threads across the board.

Here's the latest
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:31 / 09.11.07
I do kinda think this guy's getting a rough ride! Some people have been posting here for years without ever saying anything better than yichiyon's posts. Okay, the one's that are just link after link, fine, not good. Otherwise, BFD unless you want to make a real clean sweep of all shit posts, and frankly, who'd wield the broom?
 
 
Spaniel
12:57 / 09.11.07
I don't think he's getting a rough ride at all.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:01 / 09.11.07
What exactly is wrong with the Saving Private Ryan thread? That his taste in cinema is bad? That his ideas about the film are misplaced and unsubstantiated? That his writing style is borderline incoherent? Because, see, if any of those things are now going to be a reason to start moderation... well, who shall 'scape whipping? (Apart from me, and my mates.)
 
 
Spaniel
15:39 / 09.11.07
It's that stuff (Private Ryan) in the context of the other stuff (in Film and Music) that makes him stand out to me, and to others it would seem. Perhaps others are just better at camouflaging their shit, but I just don't see the same level of dross on this board as you apparently do, Petey. That's not to say that I don't see a degree of dross, mind.

What I'm really taking issue with is the assertion that he's coming in for a really rough ride. Personally I think he's had a much easier time of it than other posters who have produced the similar gumpf.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
14:59 / 13.11.07
So what's all this about, then?
 
 
All Acting Regiment
15:00 / 13.11.07
And is this the right thread to flag it up in?
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
11:06 / 18.11.07
This topic is waaay more Convo than Headshop- can we get a move?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
18:35 / 18.11.07
Oh god. Yes.
 
  

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