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SiliconDream
14:11 / 19.04.04
Mongoose venom? Those bastard cobras are going to get a real surprise now, aren't they?

Can Cyclops run out of energy? I recall an Excalibur annual where a young, time-displaced Cyclops zapped Captain Britain continuously until his beam fizzled out. But as I understood it, he's continuously firing his beam at the inside of his visor all the time as long as his eyes are open.

How come Siryn and Polaris are, like, the only mutants ever to inherit their parents' powers exactly?
 
 
Aertho
14:38 / 19.04.04
Inherited powers?

See: Summers, Nathan. See also: Summers, Rachel. Grey, Nate
 
 
Mr Tricks
16:40 / 19.04.04
Cyclops is Solar Powered...

There was even an X-man annual where he absorbed Lightning...

So it's possible for him to run out if he's away from the sun for a long enough period or uses all of his blasting power up before he can "recharge" I don't think that has ever happened and yeah so long as his eyes are open they are emmiting the optic blasts.
 
 
osymandus
20:59 / 19.04.04

I think it was implied that he chose the name because he was deliberately taking the piss out of the heroes and their silly names.

Mr. Sinister's real name is Nathaniel Essex.

I think that's a pretty good villian-name...


Sadly his from Basildon ! (Its an Essex joke , ill get me coat)


On Cyclops , yes he can run out of power , but if recall the lighting thinky also applies to over "energies" Havoks blast being one (ok its explained its becuas their brothers but its still cosmic energy plasma blasts !!)

Also i recall him being a whizz at calculating angles in his head (never play pool with this man !)
 
 
SiliconDream
21:16 / 19.04.04
I always wondered why Cyclops didn't just exhaust his power, and then take off his visor and hang out for a while.

Other question--what was up with his stare shutting down for a few issues in Assault on Weapon Plus? I mean, I figured it was some kind of mental block to do with his emotional problems, but nothing particularly seemed to come of it and it'd gone away by halfway through Planet X. Was it just supposed to be resolved by his deciding between Jean & Emma?
 
 
Mario
21:22 / 19.04.04
Because the only place he could hang out would be in a room with NO light. Not fun.

And I assumed his impotence in Planet X was Freudian.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
21:40 / 19.04.04
Cyclops is all about repression - I believe what Grant was hinting at was that he actually does have control over his power, but it's tied up with his emotions. In Assault On Weapon Plus, Scott is at his lowest low, and feels impotent, and so he is. But when he has to take charge and face Magneto, he can do it. He lets out all of the rage that he'd stored up inside and takes it out on Magneto. Scott never lost his power, it was all in his head.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
21:44 / 19.04.04
Xorn never appeared before in the X-Men. He calls Scott "old friend" because they had met before the Imperial story - Magneto had fooled Scott into thinking that he had convinced Xorn not to kill himself, and that was their bond.
 
 
X-Himy
22:24 / 19.04.04
Hi, I am new here.

While I cannot remember where I read it (if anyone knows, clue me in), Cyclops, Havok, and presumably the third Summers brother can all absorb solar energy, electricity, and other ambient energies (such as static electricity perhaps). This is what fuels thei blasts, and perhaps why their blasts don't work on each other (they just absorb the energy). If this was true, then even being in a darkened room would probably not be enough to drain Cyke. Though I doubt rubbing his feet on a carpet would be enough to recharge him fully, I would imagine the constant soaking of energy keeps him pretty charged.

In addition, if this was true, it would finally make sense to me why Cyke was included in The Twelve. A lot of the others make sense (those have great powers, such as controlling magnetism or telepathy/telekinesis). But for me, including the Summers never made sense until I think of it in terms of having a power where you just absorb random energy. How many times have you seen a mutant falther because they run out of strength? Well, now you have a scenario where you never run out of energy.
 
 
jephyork
01:32 / 20.04.04
From way back in the thread:

Uatu the Watcher was stripped of his rank and power in Fantastic Four #400 -- not for the crime of interfering in events, but for killing another Watcher.

I'm unsure if he ever got his position back, but -- man, by the standards of the Watchers' race, Uatu must be one scary motherfucker.

-Jeph!
 
 
quinine92001
03:31 / 20.04.04
What was the story behind the creepy witchcraft old lady who was Franklin Richards Grandma? Was her name Agatha or Abigail? Was she Sue's and Johnny's Grandmother?
 
 
sammyboy
08:00 / 20.04.04
Am no expert at all and I didn't write this but :

"Agatha Harkness is an elderly witch from the town of New Salem. Unlike most of her family (Nicholas Scratch and the Salem's Seven), Agatha is a benevolent witch and was even the governess for the Fantastic Four's Franklin Richards. She was a mentor for the Scarlet Witch when Wanda undertook witchcraft to supplement her mutant hex abilities. Agatha even returned from a supposed death to aid Wanda during the abduction of her twin boys and her manipulation by Immortus. She remains a strong ally for the Scarlet Witch.
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Labyrinth/5357/agatha.html
 
 
CorneliusX
08:30 / 20.04.04
The DCU has no continuity and is comparable to someone eating a few crap stories and tacky comic art and vomiting it onto glossy paper. The DCU is soulless and would not be around today if Superman and Batman weren't successful. The DCU has characters like the Elongated Man and Despero and that starfish villain. It also had twelve different Hawkman's with the same name and different histories. A Vertigo thread perhaps but one dedicated to Booster Gold and Green Flame and the rest of that man glue...maybe not.

Thanks for the advice! I will be burning all my DCU comix promptly and immersing myself in the hi-lit of Marvel Secret Wars.


Good, a convert...

FYI: the Secret Wars was nothing more than a franchising ploy on Marvel's part to attract more readers and to expose their characters to a wider audience, if you saw it as anything more than that well then that's a problem (if it wasn't for that very Secret War, I would never have become the True Believer I am today).


No, he didn't. He's trying to be witty, he's Scott's oldest enemy trying to be tongue in cheek. The bastard!

I'm probably just being too picky but you know when the Xorn/MAgneto thing was revealed , I just wanted to see whether it all fitted together... and as I had never heard of Xorn before and it seemed Scott had ...


No, I also did some back tracking when the "shocking truth" about Xorn was revealed. Some of it seems to correspond but most of it looks like it was just some cheap plot device to pave the way for Planet X


What is Scarlet Witch's tie to a golden age character named the Whizzer?

I don't really know the answer to this.

It was an injection of Mongoose venom that made Robert Frank into The Whizzer, the fastest man on Earth. For a time, Wanda and Pietro thought that he was their natural father, due to a complicated maguffin.

For details, check this shit out:

Secret origins of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch

Eventually, Bob Frank met his death at the hands of an "old enemy". This was in the Bill Mantlo penned 4-issue series, The Vision and the Scarlet Witch, which in the UK was reprinted along with parts of the Claremont-Byrne X-Men run in Might World Of Marvel. The first issue I picked up (aged 8 or so) was the issue where the Whizzer gets it, and I still remember the cover tagline: "No matter how fast the Whizzer runs, he can't escape the past!" and then off to the side "This issue: X-Men: Everybody dies!" as indeed they (sort of) did.


Thanks for that. I've always wondered what the deal was with the Scarlet Witch and all her parents. If I've got this right then it seems like Wanda has/had more than six different "parents" all together.

Dads:
1) Django Maximoff (Adoptive)
2) Bob Frank (Adoptive)
3) Erik Lensherr (Father Figure/Biological)

Moms:
1) Django's wife (Adoptive)
2) Bova (Adoptive)
3) Magda Lensherr (Biological)
4) Mrs. Frank (Adoptive)

&

5) Agatha Harkness (mother figure) Does she count?

Can Cyclops run out of energy? I recall an Excalibur annual where a young, time-displaced Cyclops zapped Captain Britain continuously until his beam fizzled out. But as I understood it, he's continuously firing his beam at the inside of his visor all the time as long as his eyes are open.

How come Siryn and Polaris are, like, the only mutants ever to inherit their parents' powers exactly?


I must have missed the bit where Polaris finally finds out that Mags is her dad. So, it's official? Polaris is the Mistress of Magnetism? Who was the brilliant writer that connected those dots? Oh, look Emma Frost has telepathy, so that means she has got to be Xaviers daughter, because he's also got telepathy. Genius.

Uatu the Watcher was stripped of his rank and power in Fantastic Four #400 -- not for the crime of interfering in events, but for killing another Watcher.

I'm unsure if he ever got his position back, but -- man, by the standards of the Watchers' race, Uatu must be one scary motherfucker.


Yeah, watch out! It's a giant, bald, balloon-head with a knife!

THE MARVEL DIRECTORY:The companion site to this thread
 
 
thirty/thirty
09:46 / 20.04.04
Agatha Harkness has been more of a mother to Wanda then Magda Lensherr was (but only on account of her dying and all).

What happened to Factor Three, the super mutant criminal organization that had Changling and Mikhail Rasputin as members?

Whatever happened to The Molecule Man? Why didn't he ever take over the universe and rule as supreme over-lord? Was it because he was an idiotic baffoon or was it because he was a chubby chaser (Volcana, anyone)?
 
 
Mario
11:02 / 20.04.04
Who was the brilliant writer that connected those dots?

Chuck Austen. Not unlike what he did with Nightcrawler, really.

What happened to Factor Three, the super mutant criminal organization that had Changling and Mikhail Rasputin as members?

They all died at one time or another. Even Colossus.

Whatever happened to The Molecule Man? Why didn't he ever take over the universe and rule as supreme over-lord?

Because he's a putz?
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
13:41 / 20.04.04
So Polaris IS now Mag's daughter? I thought that back when Chris Claremont wrote everything it was established that she wasn't, but Mags was confused and thought she was.

SiliconDream Other question--what was up with his stare shutting down for a few issues in Assault on Weapon Plus?

Emotional repression fucks with Cyclops powers, though strangely it seems to make Alex stronger... Anyway, during the Inferno storyline it was revealed the reason Cyclops couldn't control his power was because of the abuse he suffered as a child in an orphanage run by Mister Sinister. Of course, when he finally destroyed Mister Sinister you'd have thought that that would solve his problems but no. Later on, when the original X-Factor fought Apocalypse in his funky moon base Cyclops was so distraught that he was about to loose his son, whom Apocalypse had infected with a techno-organic virus and would have to be sent to the future to be saved, that he was able to fire a blast of optic energy much more powerful than usual that fried Apocalypse. In this case he was so distraught over the mess he'd made of things between Jean and Emma, and because I don't know if you picked up the subtle hints that Grant dropped but Scott had a lot of problems dealing with having had En Sabuh Neh in his head, that it shut down his powers until Grant decided to let him have them back again.

And for someone who mentioned earlier that Magneto was good because of Moira MacTaggart's genetic meddling, I say thee nay! As was revealed in that storyline she found that whenever a mutant used their powers it reset the genetic sequencing, undoing whatever change. If Magneto, or the X-Men wanted to be bad or good, it was because they had that natural capacity and free will.

The Claremont Magneto was essentially noble and misguided, he did what he did because he thought that was what would be best for mutant people, I'm not even sure if he necessarily thought he would be leader when the dust settled. Humans would be definite second class citizens but I'm not sure if he wanted them exterminated like Morrison's Magneto did. The X-Men's great advantage fighting Magneto was he didn't really want to kill them, just show them that his way was better than Xavier's. Unfortunately, because of his experiences in the Holocaust and, I think Claremont implied, Israel in the fifties and sixties, he'd become rather dogmatic and fixed in his opinions, which would lead to comfy episodes of torture of the X-Men and friction when he was Headmaster of Xavier's School in The New Mutants.
 
 
jephyork
14:53 / 20.04.04
Actually, Cyclops can't control his power because of brain damage -- when his parents' plane was being attacked by the Shi'Ar and they pushed him and Alex out of the plane with a single parachute, Scott hit his head on landing -- and got brain damage. When his powers fully developed, he couldn't shut them off -- Sinister had to stick some mental blocks into Scott's head, but even those didn't help.

And, Factor Three had nothing to do with Mikhail Rasputin. Whoever posted that might be thinking of Banshee, who they forced to work for them by putting an explosive collar on him. Factor Three was basically a traditional villain team (Blob, Changeling, Ogre, etc.) with a mys-teeeeerious leader. The leader eventually turned out to be an alien, paving the way for his people to invade the earth, and the X-Men beat him up and sent him home. The End.

This was like issue #35 of Uncanny X-Men. Mikhail Rasputin didn't come back until issue #285 or so -- and basically was batshit insane, and hopped around dimensions doing things like ritually abusing the Morlocks and trying to bring Illyana back to life.

-Jeph!
 
 
Ed Mann
15:17 / 20.04.04
I brought this up on another forum but anyway: Scott Summers new girlfriend is a sometime dominatix with telepathy and diamond skin, right? Well, before he was rescued by Professor X, "Slim" Summers was "dominated" by "Jack O' Diamonds," a petty crook with rough telepathic powers, who became a living diamond.
Coincidence? Nonsense? Morrison setting up future plot possibilities? Morrison just having fun with us?
 
 
ThePirateKing
16:32 / 20.04.04
Sighs - I still live in hope that someone will explain the Iron man replacement story line on here.

* Smiles nicely *
 
 
jephyork
18:33 / 20.04.04
I can give it a shot.

During the Godawful "the Crossing" storyline, it was revealed that Iron Man had been brainwashed by Kang sometime in the past, post-hypnotically coerced into betraying the Avengers.

That battle ended with Iron Man's death -- regaining his right mind just long enough to save the Avengers at the cost of his own life.

So, with Kang's time-travel technology right there, the Avengers decided to go back in time and pluck out a NEW Tony Stark. However, they didn't know how far back Kang had gotten his hooks into Tony -- so they went ALL the way back. To age 19, before Tony had BECOME Iron Man.

So, this new Teen Tony filled out the armor for a while, until all the Avengers took the big dive into Onslaught and showed up in the Heroes Reborn world, all gritting teeth and popping veins.

In this new world, created subconsciously by the amazing power of Franklin Richards, Tony was an adult again. And when all the Avengers returned to the Real Marvel Universe, Tony stayed an adult. However, he now had the memories of THREE Tony Starks -- the phony background of the one created by Franklin, the memories of Teen Tony ... AND all the memories of the REAL Tony Stark.

A quick check of the gravesite of the original Tony revealed that the body was missing ... and the grave was saturated with Franklin's energy. Apparently, Franklin had MERGED the two Tonys when he created the Heroes Reborn world.

So basically, the original Tony was now back -- with a few extra memories, which died down over time.

Later on, Kurt Busiek revealed that it was actually IMMORTUS, not Kang, who had brainwashed Tony -- and it was at a much later date than they thought. (During Operation Galactic Storm, actually.)

So that's it in a nutshell. Hope it made some sense...

-Jeph!
 
 
ThePirateKing
18:54 / 20.04.04
Thanks for the summary, matey - that is indeed one STUPID story.

It breaks so many basic laws of story telling. Why doesn't everyone who knows someone who's died just go back in time and bring a suitable replacment into the present? Doh.
 
 
thirty/thirty
07:23 / 21.04.04
So Sorry about linking Mikhail Rasputin to Factor Three. I got him mixed up with follow deviant, the aptly named Unus (the mutant villain who almost starved to death because the force field around him wouldn't let food in).

If Xavier and Jean tag-teamed it, could they ever be powerful enough to purge hatred/prejudice from the collective psyches (?) of the population of earth? Suppressing any bad thoughts. It would be unethical but wouldn't it serve the greater good?
 
 
Triplets
09:35 / 21.04.04
In Paradise X Xavier makes humans and mutants live in peace by taking control of Earth with his mind. Yes, the entire Earth.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
11:32 / 21.04.04
FYI: the Secret Wars was nothing more than a franchising ploy on Marvel's part to attract more readers and to expose their characters to a wider audience, if you saw it as anything more than that well then that's a problem (if it wasn't for that very Secret War, I would never have become the True Believer I am today).

Every story is someone's first, and every story is someone's favorite.

Now, I will crush your beliefs like little tiny Robin eggs.

Secret Wars was the result of two things:

1) Marvel was approached by a toy company who wanted them to put out a toy line and asked if Marvel would put together a comic series to promote it, like GI Joe or Micronauts. Marvel, who was just coming back from a long period of time where they were losing money, agreed quickly.

2) DC had announced that they were going to do a Big Company-wide crossover series that would change things for their 50th anniversary (this became Crisis on Infinite Earths) as well as a series that would list EVERY Major character, giving their history,poers, etc... This became DC Who's Who. Marvel, whose company history had been "look at what other people are doing and do it faster, cheaper and with a lot more titles) rushed Secret Wars into production (which is why there are so many "fill-in" artists and why Zeck's art looks so bad) and Shooter tacked on a bunch of "big changes" so as to beat DC to the punch.

This was also massively pushed in Marvel's letter pages, and was the subject of the infamous Jim Shooter "little fucks" memo (in which he said "Every letter needs to be answered in a way that pushes Secret Wars to get the little fucks to buy it" or something close to that).

But hey, if you liked it, then it worked.
 
 
Mario
13:08 / 21.04.04
Most telepaths have tried the "control a planet" bit at least once. I know Moondragon had an entire planet enslaved by herself (and this, before her Mind Gem phase).

The problem is the definition of a "bad thought". It's _really_ difficult to avoid slipping into the trap of thinking "every thought that disagrees with mine is bad". And that leads to autocratic dictatorships, and (sooner or later) spandex-clad strangers leading rebellions.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
13:20 / 21.04.04
In Paradise X Xavier makes humans and mutants live in peace by taking control of Earth with his mind. Yes, the entire Earth.

While Xavier has the power to do such a thing, it takes him LONG time to do so, since his first "death" was explained by him being in hiding while he used his mental powers to gather together the whole of human thought to drive away a race of alien invaders back during the Roy Thomas/Neal Adams run.
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
14:23 / 21.04.04
I think I've said this before, but Secret Wars begat Secret Wars II - Which is one of the best Marvel series ever to be published in the UK.

Sure the issues reprinting the US SWII were crap, but in between those, my pre-teen self got to experience Byrne FF, Romita Jr X-Men, Sienkewicz New Mutants and lots more.
 
 
houdini
17:57 / 21.04.04
I am about to utter heresy:

For all that its detractors' claims are true, Secret Wars is a far, far superior series to Crisis On Infinite Earths.

1. There is a clear, articulated premise for the story. It's a very artificial one, but it's a solid one: The characters are put in "the arena" by God and told to fight. The series, then, is about how they react to that. And I think it does a very good job of articulating how differently the characters respond to that situation. Doom's response is not Magneto's. Professor Xavier's response is not Captain America's, and so on. This is solid.

2. It benefits massively from *not* trying to shoehorn in every character touched upon in 60 years worth of tangled continuity. Secret Wars only had to address the characters who were being made into toys. So it has a nice, clean cast of characters. And, generally, the series finds interesting things to do with most of them. Where the moments of "definition" for characters in Crisis are either "wow, even X is in this comic" or "oh no, Flash is dead!!!" the characters in Secret Wars actually get to evince some scraps of personality. Witness Molecule Man's struggle with his own loser personality, all the flak the X-Men take from trying to protect Magneto, the Thing's coming to terms with suddenly having the ability to switch to and fro between Ben Grimm and "rocky" mode, and so on.

3. Narrative structure. Secret Wars starts with the dangling question, has an abortive attempt at answering it with a big fight, goes off to discuss "what they did next" and brings everything back to a satisfyingly ultimate confrontation. I defy anyone to tell me what actually happens in Crisis, beyond, "Everyone runs around the multiverse for 12 issues and some people die and then they fight the Anti-Monitor".

No. I'm not being fair to Crisis. But most of what I've said about it could also apply to X-Tinction Agenda, X-Cutioner's Song or a host of other series. In comparison to most company wide crossovers, Secret Wars is clean and pretty decent.

Just my 2c.
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
18:46 / 21.04.04
And Secret Wars is a hell of a lot easier to read too...
 
 
tituba
09:00 / 22.04.04

What is the deal with the Askani? Are they like a coven of telepaths, that do what? All I really know about them is that Rachel Summers and Tanya Trask are/were/will be members and that Cable was/is/will be the "Askani Son". I also know they can time-travel. What's their deal?

Immortus is Kang is some Pharaoh is...? Is there another incarnation of Kang that I don't know about?

Blade's mother is Miriam, queen of vampires in the books but in the movie his "father" was the much younger, Stephen Dorff-shaped Deacon Frost. Who was his father in the Marvel U?

What standpoint has Magneto’s PR people taken in regards to the fact that the leader of the mutant race’s granddaughter is a human? Has this ever been addressed? I’m mean especially with Grant Morrison’s super-angry Mags, wanting to wipe out the entire human race. It’s like Hitler having a Jewish granddaughter, isn’t it?

Did Shadow King ever have a physical body and if he did, how did he get uncorporealized? Is this what happens with telepaths who's bodies stop working and if Xavier's body gets broken will he also be turned into a big glob of psionic spunk?

In the X-Men cartoon, Storm had a teenage son called Mishnari, who could run really fast. In the X-books she has never spoken about any son or made any reference that, she ever had a son. Was Mishnari just a character they created for cartoon or did she really have a kid?

Who is Sienna Blaze or Blasé?

Okay, so it has been confirmed that Bishop's father is Gateway but his mother's identity is still up in the air. Which dark skinned X-characters will they conveniently force into the role? It’s between M and Storm I suppose.
 
 
chairmanWOW
09:03 / 22.04.04
Who is Sienna Blaze or Blasé?

Isn't she Boom-Boom from another dimesion or something?
 
 
sammyboy
10:47 / 22.04.04
Siena Blaze
Siena Blaze has the ability to tear into the Earth electro-magnetic field, creating a giant energy burst and shockwave. Each time she uses her power, she runs the risk of destroying the Earth. Unfortunately for the planet, she doesn't seem to care. Siena was brought into the Upstarts by Fitzroy, who had actually met her in the future he was from, when she told him how to find her younger self. Her first mission was the attempted murder of Professor X, Cyclops, and Storm in Antarctica. Although the X-Men beat her, she escaped by riding the EM field away, leaving a hole in the field which was quickly filled in an explosive burst of energy. She then attacked Muir Island and tried to steal a disk with Proteus' genetic information for Sinister. While she couldn't get the disk, she managed to scratch Phoenix II and Sinister took those cell samples from under her nails. Siena participated in the Younghunt, but then disappeared. It seems that she was taken to the Ultraverse and joined the Exiles, who were later killed by Maxis. Somehow, Blaze and her teammates were resurrected, and fought alongside Maxis against aliens. Finally, when the Black Knight, an Avenger from our world who fought in the Ultraverse, asked Maxis to send him home, Siena (and Reaper) joined him, but although the Black Knight and Reaper has reappeared, she has not.

Not my words : http://24.188.68.181:8000/blaze.html
 
 
sammyboy
10:48 / 22.04.04
as you can see the ability to possibly destroy the earth every time she used her powers was a bit rubbish...
 
 
Mario
11:22 / 22.04.04
What is the deal with the Askani?

They are a semi-religious order that Rachel Summers founded when she was cast into the future.

Immortus is Kang is some Pharaoh is...? Is there another incarnation of Kang that I don't know about?

He was the Scarlet Centurion for an appearance or two. And the Pharaoh is Rama-Tut. The present explanation for all of this is laid out in AVENGERS FOREVER #9

Blade's mother is Miriam, queen of vampires in the books but in the movie his "father" was the much younger, Stephen Dorff-shaped Deacon Frost. Who was his father in the Marvel U?

Unknown. In the comics, Frost was the doctor who handled his mother's labor.

What standpoint has Magneto’s PR people taken in regards to the fact that the leader of the mutant race’s granddaughter is a human? Has this ever been addressed? I’m mean especially with Grant Morrison’s super-angry Mags, wanting to wipe out the entire human race. It’s like Hitler having a Jewish granddaughter, isn’t it?

There was a crossover (BLOODTIES) about that, involving the somewhat-forgettable Fabian Cortez. In short, she was described as "tainted".

Did Shadow King ever have a physical body and if he did, how did he get uncorporealized? Is this what happens with telepaths who's bodies stop working and if Xavier's body gets broken will he also be turned into a big glob of psionic spunk?

In his first appearance, he was in the body of Amahl Farouk, but I don't know if that was his original body or his latest host. If it was, then it was his defeat by Charles Xavier that made him bodiless.

In the X-Men cartoon, Storm had a teenage son called Mishnari, who could run really fast. In the X-books she has never spoken about any son or made any reference that, she ever had a son. Was Mishnari just a character they created for cartoon or did she really have a kid?

Created for the cartoon, just like Spyke over in X-Men: Evolution.

Okay, so it has been confirmed that Bishop's father is Gateway but his mother's identity is still up in the air. Which dark skinned X-characters will they conveniently force into the role? It’s between M and Storm I suppose.

Technically, Gateway is more likely his grandfather or great-grandfather. Both M and Storm have been suggested as possible members of his ancestry, but if he is (as hinted) a full-blooded Aborigine, neither are likely.
 
 
Ed Mann
13:37 / 22.04.04
Is there a connection between Spike in the X-Men: Evolution animated series and Spike the guy that died in the X-Force (now X-Statics) comic book?
 
  

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