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FinderWolf
13:42 / 31.12.03
More spy news, this from COMICS2FILM at www.comicbookresources.com.

No Ra's al Ghul?!?!? COME ON!!! WE WANT RA'S!!!

>> BATMAN: INTIMIDATION GAME

Latino Review has a spy report about the cast of the Chris Nolan directed-film. "My sister -- an actress -- is with Chris Nolan's former manager at UTA. They talk still. Funnily enough, she's now been asked to audition for a small part in Nolan's next film -- 'Batman 5,' set to start shooting in England on February 4th ... there's no script yet, and she doesn't know what the role is, just that it's 'exposure' and 'experience.' There's two villains. There's one love interest. There's a young Commissioner Gordon. There's a young Harvey Dent. The cast are Christian Bale [Batman], Michael Caine [Alfred], Judson Caspian [Viggo Mortensen], Cillian Murphy [Harvey Dent], Katie Holmes [Rachel Caspian], Chris Cooper [Gordon], Elle Fanning [Barbara], Noah Emmerich, as of 11/29/03."

But there's someone cast as Barbara (presumably Gordon), hmm? Interesting.... and Harvey Dent. Glad they're ignoring shitty ass trigger-happy henchman Two-Face from BATMAN FOREVER.
 
 
FinderWolf
13:46 / 31.12.03
I just did a Net search - Barbara Gordon/Batgirl fetishists will be disappointed, the girl they cast as 'Barbara' is like 5 years old. But she does have reddish hair, so between that and her age, it seems pretty clear that this will be the young Commish's kid.
 
 
Caleigh
14:18 / 31.12.03
maybe they will have this very young Barbara Gordon discover the Batmans secret identity which will inspire her to follow in his footsteps late in life.
 
 
Jack Fear
17:00 / 31.12.03
That report makes it sound like an actor named Judson Caspian is playing a character named "Viggo Mortensen."

I wonder if the real Viggo Mortensen will sue.
 
 
FinderWolf
18:11 / 31.12.03
Who the heck is Noah Emmerich?

We can only hope that Judson Caspian is a fake name for
RA'S AL FREAKIN' GHUL!!!! I really want to see Ra's (and
Talia) here.
 
 
Jack Fear
19:27 / 31.12.03
Noah Emmerich.





American character actor. Was in THE TRUMAN SHOW, FREQUENCY, and others.

IMDb filmography.

As to what role he might be playing... who knows? If this were an actual adaptation of YEAR ONE, I'd peg him for the dirty cop, Flass.
 
 
Hieronymus
19:42 / 02.01.04
Wasn't Judson Caspian the Reaper? Much as I'd love to see anyone other than Ra's (He's just a very tired character, in my opinion and the 'Batman, Int'l Man of Mystery' road he takes Bats down is just as strange as when Batman was fighting crime in broad daylight), something tells me this report is just dream-casting.

Though the Reaper and Bruce's push-pull dynamic with the Reaper's daughter would make for some meaty taking back of the franchise. Especially if they blended in a lot of YEAR ONE for equal shakes (Gordon's showdown with Flass would be cinematic beauty).
 
 
FinderWolf
13:35 / 07.01.04
from today's Cinescape.com:

>> It began with an anonymous scoop that was sent to us on December 24 which read as follows:

"It was in the news here in Iceland that the new BATMAN movie would be filming next to 'Vatnajökull' the largest glacier in Europe (in Iceland.) Filming will take a little bit more than a week, about the same as James Bond DIE ANOTHER DAY took and will take place in the beginning of the new year."

With no return email address to contact the scooper, there was little in the way of verification we could do. An online search failed to produce any hits in the media of the new BATMAN movie filming in Iceland, which didn't support the scooper's claims that it had made the news. And so we sat on the scoop until today, when the news turned up on no less than three websites...

First reported by Superhero Hype, proof turned up in an Icelandic online article reporting about the glacier filming location. That was followed by an exclusive Superhero Hype scoop that said the icy scene will feature Batman fighting with R'as al Ghul's student as part of a "training exercise." Latino Review then followed up by contacting SagaFilm Iceland which told the website that filming will occur in late February and go on for about two weeks.

The long and short of it: it looks like Batman will be on ice in the new film.

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So maybe the idea of Ra's being the villain isn't dead. What if the "two villains" mentioned are both Ra's AND The Reaper? I'm soo confused by now...
 
 
deja_vroom
14:19 / 07.01.04
Egyptian sets? Is it too late for me to start a web-campaign demanding the villain to be a morbidly overweight King Tut with way too much make up? Someone who can giggle like a girl? Is Elizabeth Taylor still alive?
 
 
deja_vroom
14:55 / 07.01.04
And let me just say that 01 comment's on Ang Lee's approach to Hulk underline a situation that can be found in almost every aspect of creative endeavours, and that extrapolate the mere scope of comics movies, therefore being RIGHT ON THE MARK:

That one person with no intimacy with a certain medium can disregard the weight of 40 years of - not only success, but appropriatedness of a concept, throw it out and start a new one that is (I won't even get in the merit of it being good or not good) plainly UNNECESSARY. It's bullshit, and it does not grate on one's nerves because it's "disrespecting comic book mythology" or any similar rubbish, but because it's a mindless, idiotic move on broad daylight. If it's not broken, don't fucking touch it.

Sorry. It's been 4 months since I saw Hulk, and I still feel ripped off.
 
 
Mr Tricks
16:35 / 07.01.04
Hey . . . I liked the HULK, thought it was great!!!

I just bought the DVD for $5 and also have a mexican Bootleg VCD which is Dubbed in spanish for the 1st half then jumps to english with spanish subtitles in the second half...!!!

Um... meanwhile. I wonder if Nolan will make use of his particular style of story telling in this film. A non-linear timeline could be quite fun.
 
 
Hieronymus
18:14 / 08.01.04
Innnnnteresting.

I really like this. Ra's is one of those villains that is just too huge to introduce AS a villain in one restarting film. But as Bruce Wayne's trainer in his long history of instructors leading up to his Batman life... that, I think, is beautiful economy. It's good to save him for later.

Although I don't know if I can see Katie Holmes as an assistant DA.

This gives me a bit of hope. Except for the goddamn ninjas. *adjusts his eyepatch*
 
 
FinderWolf
19:41 / 08.01.04
That same site also has Spider-Man 2 spoilers/script review - some pretty cool stuff in there!

I think it's not Ra's who trains Bats in the script but this Duncan character, who's a secret flunky of Ra's (unbeknownst to Bruce), from what I read.
 
 
Mike-O
05:19 / 09.01.04
Ducard.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:20 / 09.01.04
Apparently the studio is now calling it BATMAN: INTIMIDATION and not BATMAN: INTIMIDATION GAME anymore. Pretty cool move, I think - and I predicted they'd do this a while ago (the one word sounds so much cooler, I think, and more like a movie title), so I feel all happy n'stuff.
 
 
Mike-O
22:30 / 09.01.04
Good call, H/W. I think so too... I have this warm and fuzzy feeling that the sequence shot in Iceland is going to be ridonkulous.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:22 / 14.01.04
Latest news from Comics2Film:

BATMAN: INTIMIDATION

Dark Horizons reports that "Matrix" vet Laurence Fishburne is being considered for the role of Lucius Fox in the upcoming Chris Nolan-directed Bat film. They also note that Nolan continues his pursuit of Chris Cooper for Commissioner Gordon, despite the actor's lack of interest.
 
 
FinderWolf
13:40 / 30.01.04
New script review with lots of details and some mild spoilers:

http://www.latinoreview.com/scriptreviews/batman/script-review.html
 
 
Hieronymus
19:48 / 30.01.04
That script review looks damn cool.

SuperheroHype had a link to some set description and casting rumors.
 
 
Hieronymus
17:55 / 11.02.04
So Liam Neeson's a villain
 
 
FinderWolf
15:13 / 19.02.04
from cinescape.com:

This is good news!

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Variety reports today that Liam Neeson and Morgan Freeman are confirmed to be in the cast for Christopher Nolan's BATMAN film. The trade magazine also connects the dots and lists Neeson's character as the whispered heavy the Internet's been buzzing about for months, R'as al Ghul. Freeman will play Lucius Fox, another already rumored character, who is the CEO of Wayne Enterprises.

Filming is now scheduled to begin on March 16.

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Mike-O
02:49 / 20.02.04
Yeah, it lists the start date in London as March 16th, though I wonder if filming began in Iceland (?) already....
 
 
FinderWolf
17:07 / 20.02.04
from Cinescape.com and VARIETY -

holy shit!! Neeson ain't Ra's after all! Or is this the studio playing with us?!?!

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Neeson is a friend and not a foe for BATMAN
Variety issues a correction

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Dateline: Friday, February 20, 2004

By: PATRICK SAURIOL
By: News Editor
Source: Variety

Variety issued a correction today regarding their BATMAN casting article from yesterday. The trade had reported that Liam Neeson would be playing R'as al Ghul, the main villain in the new BATMAN film. However, Neeson isn't playing a bad guy at all; instead, the Irish actor has been cast as businessman Henri Ducard, a friend and mentor to billionaire Bruce Wayne. That leaves the role of Ghul open...but for whom?
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FinderWolf
18:23 / 23.02.04
New details from Cinescape - this strikes me as the first time a rumor/spoiler movie news site has actually WITHHELD information
(although the title BATMAN BEGINS sucks, doesn't it?):

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Movie News
SCOOP: BATMAN`s devil is in the details
So much good stuff that we're censoring ourselves

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Dateline: Monday, February 23, 2004

By: PATRICK SAURIOL
By: News Editor
Source: Name withheld

By now comic book fans are daring to believe that Warner Bros. new BATMAN movie has all the ingredients of success: a new actor to play the Dark Knight (Christian Bale); a supporting cast that suggests substance will play as important a part as style; a script from a screenwriter (David Goyer) that's had success with previous comic book adaptations, and who also happens to be a successful comic book writer; and a director (Christopher Nolan) with credits that both critics and fanboys can appreciate (like MEMENTO and INSOMNIA). So how much better can it get?

We're here to tell you that it does get better. A lot better. So good that we're going to have to do something we rarely choose to do and not tell you everything that we know.

We have a good reason for this rule and that has to do with things we call "key spoilers". Every film has them, those moments where a major plot point will happen that twists or reveals something that can change the entire film. Remember what happened when Luke Skywalker confronted Darth Vader in THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, or what happened shortly after Kane sat down to eat dinner in ALIEN, or when the Nazis opened the Ark of the Covenant in RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK? Did you really want to know what was going to happen all those months before you saw those films -- especially now when you consider that these films are considered classics of their genres? Of course not. And that's why we're here to raise your expectations for BATMAN BEGINS (which may shortly be the new title for Nolan's BATMAN film) and to tell you that there are some things best left unsaid for the moment.

But there are things that can be told, and if you find yourself growing more excited as the days progress, give us (and the BATMAN filmmakers) a little of your trust. You just might be handsomely rewarded when the lights dim and the Batman logo comes up on the big screen next summer.

A longtime scooper has filled us in on many of the secrets left unaccounted about BATMAN: INTIMIDATION GAME (still the working title of the BATMAN project.) We trust this source, as they have told us many things in the past that we've reported on first, only to see them be officially announced elsewhere. And what they tell us about the new BATMAN movie gets our blood racing and wishing that the summer of 2005 were here already.

Here is what we can share with you at this time:


Dennis Quaid is "close" to being signed for the part of Jim Gordon, the Gotham City beat cop that will one day become police Commissioner. Gordon has an important role to play in the picture. One might even say that fate will deal him -- and subsequently the Dark Knight -- a card that sets the course for their future and that of Gotham City.

Cillian Murphy is playing The Scarecrow, but you already know that.

At present, the concept for this film's Batmobile is unlike the looks of Batman's wheels from the four earlier films. Instead, this incarnation of the Batmobile -- at least at this stage of development -- might look like it has more in common with the behemoth depicted in Frank Miller's legendary THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS comic book series. As our source tells us, "the Batmobile will be big and bulky, like an urban tank."

There is talk about changing the working title of the project to BATMAN BEGINS.

One of the film's major action scenes will take place inside a Tibetan palace and will not involve Batman -- but a pre-Batman Bruce Wayne. Much ass-kicking will take place inside that palace, and it will be upon the film's main villain, or more specifically, his henchmen.

When you see the way Goyer and Nolan choose to end their movie, you'll be wishing that the sequel will be coming out tomorrow. And that's all we'll say about that.

As we said, the summer of 2005 now can't get here fast enough.

[Our thanks to the source for conveying this and other items of interest, and our hopes that they will contact us again soon.]

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FinderWolf
14:18 / 24.02.04
Ken Watanabe, Oscar nominee for THE LAST SAMURAI (apparently he's the only good thing about that movie), is now playing Ra's al Ghul. www.superherohype.com confirms it. Apparently the studio wanted "a major Asian actor" for the role. Funny, though, since Ra's is an Arabic name. Anyway, Ken should kick ass and savor every inch of his villainy. This movie just might be great after all!
 
 
FinderWolf
13:51 / 27.02.04
The official title of the movie is no longer BATMAN: INTIMIDATION GAME, or even BATMAN: INTIMIDATION. It's BATMAN BEGINS, as reported today in breaking news by Cinescape.com.

I think BATMAN BEGINS is a lame-ass title, but the movie sounds like it could pretty kick-ass. Discuss.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:52 / 27.02.04
I can't believe no one's discussing this! A new lame title for the next Batman movie is big news!!
 
 
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20:01 / 27.02.04
Batman begins???

Wierd, whens this beast hit the cinemas anyway? I'm too lazy to check through the thread but as for choice of who to have as Batman, that's cool and will make me turn up for the film at the cinema.

I just hope it's darker (darker : realism) than the previous bunch.
 
 
Mike-O
22:29 / 27.02.04
Well they said that it's the official WORKING title... anything could happen between now and summer 2005... god, hopefully.
 
 
CameronStewart
00:24 / 28.02.04
Batman Begins is kind of lame, but it's at least keeping with the format of the previous films (Returns, Forever), and indicative of a change in direction. I'll take it.

Batman: Intimidation Game, on the other hand, is an AWFUL title - take the word Batman away and it sounds like some thoroughly shitty direct-to-video political suspense thriller with Charlie Sheen and Erika Eleniak.
 
 
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00:25 / 28.02.04
Summer 2005?!?

Shhhhhiiiit. Oh, thingy this year, Helsing! That should help pass the time.
 
 
01
04:37 / 28.02.04
take the word Batman away and it sounds like some thoroughly shitty direct-to-video political suspense thriller with Charlie Sheen and Erika Eleniak.

Ha! No shit!

They might as well just extend this latest gem of a title to "Batman Begins Another Shitty String Of Movies".

So what's been up since I've last glanced at this post? Ken Watanabe as Ra's Al Ghul? I enjoyed his performance in Last Samurai as much as the next guy but it looks like I have to flog the dead horse again...

Why do they insist on miscasting the characters in the books be it through deviating from the race of the character in the book or from just plain old shitty decision making? ie Katie Holms as some love interest. I've heard rumblings of Beyonce being courted to play Lois Lane of all things in the latest Superman project and as much as I love Haley Berry, the promo shots of Catwoman look light years beyond tacky. And you know it's a bad thing when you're actually turned off by pictures of her dressed in a skimpy cat suit. We might as well get Ellen Degeneress to play Lady Shiva and call it a day.
 
 
Hieronymus
09:20 / 28.02.04
Why do they insist on miscasting the characters in the books be it through deviating from the race of the character in the book

Not to be fanboy pedantic, 01, but Ra's al Ghul's racial makeup was never defined in stone.

His name may have been Arabic (and poor Arabic if I remember reading somewhere) but it's not his original name. Ra's has been given Arabic, Asian even British overtones depending on who wrote him at the time. Mark Waid described him as an "Asian terrorist" in JLA. So Watanabe's casting really isn't that unfaithful to the character's comic roots.

In fact, Ra's racial identity was originally meant to be ellusive.

As Neal Adams described him, he was a figure of indeterminate ethnic origin, a citizen of many cultures: "I created a face not tied to any race at all. It had to have evidence of a great many things having happened, a face that showed the man had an awareness of his own difference at a very early age...Ra's's face had to convey the feeling that he'd lived an extraordinary life long before his features were ever committed to paper."
 
 
01
17:57 / 01.03.04
Well I ain't going to argue with the master...Neil Adams' Batman was what I grew up with. But still Ra's has never looked Asian to me, even remotely.
 
 
Mike-O
05:43 / 04.03.04
HOLY SHIT!!!!

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Warner Bros. Pictures made the following official announcement today, which includes the news that Gary Oldman will play Jim Gordon in Batman Begins...

"Batman Begins," director Christopher Nolan's highly anticipated film, has commenced production in Iceland, with Gary Oldman joining the all-star cast. The announcement was made today by Jeff Robinov, President of Production, Warner Bros. Pictures.

In "Batman Begins," Oldman will play Lieutenant James Gordon, a detective on the Gotham police force. The film stars Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne/Batman; Michael Caine as his trusted butler Alfred; Katie Holmes as Rachel, a childhood friend of Wayne's; Liam Neeson as Wayne's mentor, Henri Ducard; Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox, a former board member and sidelined employee of Wayne Enterprises; and Ken Watanabe as the villainous Ra's Al Ghul.

Directed by Christopher Nolan from a screenplay by David Goyer and Christopher Nolan, "Batman Begins" is produced by Emma Thomas, Charles Roven and Larry Franco. The executive producers are Ben Melniker and Michael Uslan. The film is based on characters created by Bob Kane and published by DC Comics.

"Batman Begins" is scheduled to film in Iceland, London and Chicago.

The film, which explores the origins of the Batman legend and the Dark Knight's emergence as a force for good in Gotham, will be released worldwide in Summer 2005 by Warner Bros. Pictures, a Warner Bros. Entertainment Company.
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