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A joke to cheer everyone up. Mayhap, this could turn into a prolonged and merry joke thread...

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22:22 / 13.02.07

You guys don't hear/read "blonde woman". All you hear is "woman". You guys are so obsessed with what gender somebody is that the main point of the thing (the HAIR COLOR) is lost on you.

I think I was trying to address that a bit, you know? In my own lame-ass, and obviously outdated, way.

And I suppose Limp Bizkit were a good band, after all.

ONLY NICE THINGS

22:24 / 13.02.07

Not really, no. You were the one who got hooked on that, to try to draw attention away from the misogyny. Although your argument is rather undermined by the teeny outrage boner Lionheart is proudly rubbing while repeating the "six million Jews" line. That must have made him feel very grown up.

So, I ask again. Has anyone in this thread apart from boner boy over there backed your play on the importance of hair colour and the irrelevance of the fact that the butts of the jokes are all women?

22:27 / 13.02.07

Have you ever asked yourself why BLONDE women?

I posted the answer many a page back.

Also, considering that you're a moderator could you PLEASE COOL IT WITH THE PERSONAL INSULTS???

22:34 / 13.02.07

I think you must have missed this point Evil Scientist made earlier Eamon, would you like to reply to it?

A joke only about black people from South Africa is still racist. A joke only about blonde women is still sexist.

ONLY NICE THINGS

22:35 / 13.02.07

I have already directed you to the FAQ on distributed moderation once. Given your rudeness and your active attempts to upset and insult people throughout this thread in the pursuit of attention, I see no particular reason to treat you with kid gloves. Nor do I wish to encourage the casual use of Holocaust imagery for shock value on Barbelith.

Your lengthy cut and paste from wikipedia was not an answer, it was a series of vague speculations, if that was what you were referring to. You can keep typing BLONDE as often as you like. I believe that "h" tags might work in Barbelith HTML, so you could give them a go. It won't change the fact that in each of these jokes the object of ridicule is a stupid woman.

So, once again. Has anyone apart from your bezzy chum actually found significant merit in your position so far?

22:37 / 13.02.07

I posted the answer many a page back.

Well it was an answer, I suppose. You'd have to ask yourself, though; who put that together, and is it valid, really? Or is it simply something that whoever it was arranged to secure research funding for next year?

22:55 / 13.02.07

I know why BLONDE women -- it is because you and your ilk are misogynistic doucheclowns. Are we done with this thread yet?

22:56 / 13.02.07

some things to think about:

From the article The one place in popular culture where Jewish women reign is the Jewish American princess jokes. Here we are depicted as grasping, selfish, lazy, and sexually manipulative. Have you heard the one about how you stop a Jewish woman from having sex? You marry her. Encoded into these jokes is a level of misogyny that goes unrecognized by the mainstream Jewish community. The only critiques come from Jewish feminists. JAP jokes serve to help Jewish men bond with their non-Jewish brothers on the backs of Jewish women.

An entire book about blondeness:

Pitman, a writer for the London Times, offers a history of the world as seen through abundant locks of magnificent blonde hair, from the ancient sexual power of Aphrodite to the California sun-streaked hair of Farrah Fawcett. In this world history, Eve and Mary Magdalene become the blonde "bad girls" who represent forbidden sexuality, eternal beauty and sin, while Queen Elizabeth and Princess Diana gain attention because they continued to lighten their hair as they aged, attempting to harness the power of blondeness. The examples may sound a bit frivolous, but Pitman takes great care to treat the topic with a serious edge, particularly in the second half of the book. The obsession with blonde hair may have created seemingly innocuous Hollywood icons like Marilyn Monroe and Jean Harlow, but it also was essential to the notion of Aryan supremacy, and the author addresses how Nazi Germany attempted to lighten the hair of its population by ordering soldiers to procreate with blonde female citizens. Later on, Pitman looks at 1970s ad campaigns for hair dye and their internal conflicts about whether a woman ought to dye her hair to appeal to men or to feel good about herself (as L'Oreal so famously puts it, "Because I'm worth it"). In this way, the book tackles issues of race, gender and class, ultimately asking, "[W]hy is America, a culture so publicly concerned with overcoming its problems with race, still so fixated on the blonde?" Pitman admits there are no clear answers, but she offers a bright, energetic and witty exploration of the topic.
On Blondes

22:58 / 13.02.07

Enamon

When a someone bullies another person, and laughs about it, is it funny? just because the bully finds it funny it does not make it a funny thing to do, especially for the victem of the bullying. Think about the effect of the blonde jokes which are almost all without exception aimed towards women, it's just a form of verbal bullying. You may find it funny because your not the victem, you may find it funny because you have a lack of empathy with the victem, it may be funny for you because you don't understand how it can be offensive.

Just because you find it humorus does not make the joke universally funny, please step back from the thread for a while and think about why you find the blonde joke funny and then why other here do not, then replace the target group "blonde women" with another group that you feel no longer makes the joke funny for you. Try to replace it with a target group that you can identify with, then mabe you will understand what people here have been trying to get you to see.

23:37 / 13.02.07

This guy walks into a crowded bar...

Gets a drink and then loudly proclaims, 'Hey, I've got a joke! There is this Dumb Blonde and she...' Next thing he knows the person next to him pulls him over and says, 'Listen, before you tell the joke i just want to say that i find jokes about blondes to be deeply questionable and sexist, and the man sat at the end of the bar there, he will almost certainly agree, maybe pointing out the history of equating women with blonde hair with stupidity and sexual submissiveness. The woman sat over on that table may point out that jokes are often not 'just jokes' and that they often play a huge role in intimidating and ridiculing other people, or groups of people, and that the term, 'It's just a joke' is just a very lame get out clause. The man over there in the corner may well just try and push his head through the wall if he hears the term 'It's just a joke' again. The woman dancing over there may well mention the lame act of forever regurgitating the same old jokes over and over again and the guy she's dancing with may point out that there is nothing wrong with telling jokes as long as they are fucking funny.'

The man looks about and says, 'Well fuck it!..If you think i'm going to tell the fucking thing 6 times you've got to be kidding!'

ONLY NICE THINGS

23:46 / 13.02.07

But doucheclowns. Surely that makes it all worthwhile?

00:12 / 14.02.07

doucheclown is good for me. I now know the next word i'm going to forcibly tattoo onto someones base of their spine the next time i have the chance.

01:52 / 14.02.07

Sorry that I didn't post the joke I was making fun of. I was late for work.

Anyways, for those of you who actually want to know what it was..

The joke I was making fun of is:

How do you fit 6 million jews into a Volksawagon?

Answer: In the ash tray.

This is obviously a joke referencing the Holocaust and stuff. My joke is a play on the fact that most people who heard that joke expect that punchline. So my play on the joke is that I change the punchline to something that has nothing to do with the Holocaust. That's the joke of my joke. If that made any sense to you.

Oh, here's another one of my jokes.

You start it of by saying to somebody:

"You wanna hear a good knock-knock joke?"

They say "yeah", so you say:

"Okay, you start it off."

So they go "Knock-knock"

and you respond with

"Who's there?"

...and that's the joke! Cause the person who you're telling the joke to doesn't actually have a knock-knock joke ready. It's funny when you actually do that to somebody.

01:55 / 14.02.07

Once, long ago, I thought that the problem with the Wonder Twins was simply youthful high spirits—that they'd settle down a bit as they grew up.

I miss my naive illusions.

02:00 / 14.02.07

So what's this problem that you're referring to?

02:51 / 14.02.07

Here's another bad joke:

2 dogs walk into a bar. One says "Ouch!" and the other one says "Hey, I didn't know dogs could talk!"

05:26 / 14.02.07

This is obviously a joke referencing the Holocaust and stuff. My joke is a play on the fact that most people who heard that joke expect that punchline.

Well first of all, Mr L, the punchline to the teh original gag goes 'two in the back, two in the front, and the rest in the ashtray.' As I'd imagine almost everyone reading this thread is already painfully aware. It's not all that funny, really, in it's original form, so quite what's to be achieved by posting a bowdlerised form of the thing, ie, a version without any point at all, is a bit unclear.

And you apparently haven't thought the situation through, either - if six million people were, for whatever reason, forced to get into a volkswagen, I don't suppose it would be a laughing matter for anyone concerned. In a way, the scenerio you describe, in your gag, would be just as hellish as boarding a cattle truck to say, Belsen, so, again (and even though it's Barbelith, and it doesn't, y'know, really matter, but still ... ) what point were you trying to make, Mr L?

Our Lady Has Left the Building

05:53 / 14.02.07

OK, I'm going to suggest, with my moderator hat, that people take a step back from this thread for a while, as the main argument seems to have paused for a moment. If any member feels that the behaviour of any other member is unacceptable, then they know where the Policy is.

I'm also going to make a moderation request that we lock this thread for a few days as well.

06:56 / 14.02.07

But I was going to tell the brick joke!

(probably wouldn't be funny anymore anyway. someone just haaaad to ruin it.)

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