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Seth
06:00 / 16.11.02
Welcome to Barbelith, JeffreyWilliamson. Hope you enjoy it here.

Anyone else find all those mentions of The Community (capitals) a bit creepy?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
08:17 / 16.11.02
Hi Jeff.
Yeah, I wondered if one of the more "eminently reasonable" posters was indeed *our* fridge.
Well, it certainly looks like you got people talking. Hopefully thinking a bit more as well, if they're constantly having to defend their attitudes against each other. So it looks like something was achieved after all.

Yeah, there do seem to be quite a few open-minded posters on there- certainly does look like heavy-handed mods with issues for a large part.

Just hope this Fritz guy doesn't come over here and try to convert all us godless heathens and heretics. Actually, on second thoughts...
 
 
Ganesh
09:59 / 16.11.02
Doubt it. He's very sniffy about "other boards".
 
 
Ganesh
10:56 / 16.11.02
As well as Anthony Gormley's 'Field' I'm reminded of the old Jewish legend of the Golem, a lumpen creature constructed from soft clay and animated by its religious masters to serve unquestioningly. I can't help wondering if it's possible to create a fudge golem...

(Actually, if you read to the end of that link, the golem seems much more like a troll...)
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
13:03 / 16.11.02
Just looked at the two links Ganesh posted further up this page, it's amusing how the first one started like most of our discussions about banning people from Barbelith...
 
 
Ganesh
13:08 / 16.11.02
I guess the only difference is that the posters who contributed are not my fictionsuits.

(Mind you, the temptation to register under a different name and start a wide-eyed innocent 'Who Was This Ganesh And Why Are You So Unfair To Him, PS I Am Not Him' thread is near-overwhelming. I feel I have gained a true insight into troll psychology...)
 
 
JeffreyWilliamson
15:55 / 16.11.02
You know, I am made the mistake of going back to the CBBS to point out one poster's flawed research into a gun control matter and ended up seeing this little gem by the same poster:

http://www.christianbbs.com/?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=000402

I particularly enjoyed: "those who he's sweet-talked into defending him". Also of interest is the comment, "It's unfortunate that the 0.02% of complainers on CBBS are the most vocal, but that typically is the case with extremists". It's funny that he has equated the vocal people in regards to missing Ganesh are extremists, as if none of the religious members of the are.
 
 
JeffreyWilliamson
16:01 / 16.11.02
Hey, how come my nice little link isn't all blue and stuff?
 
 
The Strobe
16:57 / 16.11.02
Because you've just pasted it in as text. You need to put it in HTML tags for it to show up blue (as an active, unhighlighted, link).
 
 
grant
19:54 / 16.11.02
Yeah, CBBS runs on UBB code, but Barbelith is HTML-only.

It's much simpler than you'd think at first.

A link is basically [a href="http://www.ThatPlaceOverThere.com"]That Place Over There[/a], only with "<" brackets instead of "[" brackets.

If you feel like being nice, you can add the tag
target="_BLANK"
inside the brackets after the address, and clicking it'll automatically open the page in a new window, but it's not necessary.

I'll change the above link for you, so don't sweat it.
 
 
grant
20:08 / 16.11.02
One of the things I've noticed from that board is the absolute infectiousness of the "You're Wrong!" meme.
It spreads like an infection - "No, You're Wrong!" being the second viral phase, coupled with the frequent "Wait, maybe you're Right." (with a capital R) mutation after repeated exposure.
I've noticed a slight infection in my everyday life, and am working to disinfect (lots of humility, reading, and fluids).
But it's interesting - that one meme seems to be common to all "fundamentalist" meme-complexes, and seems to breed rather well, dividing experience into a nice binary of "wrong" and "right."

Maybe this is obvious-sounding, but the depth of it (and the way it snuck into my everyday life) took me by surprise.
 
 
Cat Chant
20:09 / 16.11.02
In one of the threads you linked to, 'Nesh, Mike12345GodIsMyDad wrote:

No one can delete or move my prayers, anyway. Not after God hears them.

then the very next post (from hsksokie) reads:

Wouldn't emailing Ganesh your support be more effective ?

Which made me laugh.
 
 
Cat Chant
20:09 / 16.11.02
Ooh, our newest member is mike12345, I've just noticed. Spooky.
 
 
Peach Pie
19:08 / 17.11.02
I guess I underestimated the extent of Ganesh's obsession.
 
 
Peach Pie
19:15 / 17.11.02
CBBS QUOTE;

(Posted by MOrethananything)
I, for one, want to take a moment or two to express my support for and gratitude to Fritz for
the things he has done and is doing here - especially in the face of such opposition. I welcome
the changes. I welcome the enforcement of rules, new and old. I welcome the transformation of
this forum from a Christian-bashing-free-for-all into a place where God can be glorified. I
would never think of falsely condemning Fritz as a "Nazi." Such condemnations are unrealistic,
unfair, unwarranted, and definitely un-Christian (and I believe that it was actually
non-Christians who started such accusations).

Fritz, thank you. Thank you for standing up for Godly priniciples. Thank you for standing up
to Satan's attacks. (Which will undoubtedly become worse as this website continues to reject
him.) Thank you for staying strong in the face of vicious attacks against your character. God
bless you.

A prayer for Fritz:

Most Holy Lord,
May Your will be done here on this website. May Your name continue to be praised and
glorified here while the forces of darkess are driven out by Your hand. I lift up Fritz to You,
Lord. It is a difficult fight and he needs Your strength and Your wisdom to press on. I ask that
You bless him with Your presence and guide him in his daily walk with You both online and
off.
In Jesus name,
Amen. (END QUOTE).



Am I hallucinating, or is Morethananything equating Ganesh with Lucifer?
 
 
Ganesh
19:16 / 17.11.02
You underestimated it...?
 
 
Ganesh
19:42 / 17.11.02
I'm Satan? Um... wow. That I did not expect...

The horns are nice, though.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
20:16 / 17.11.02
Well, you did work an overtime shift today and it was the Sabbath... Guess that explains what was up when you came home looking like a Ring Wraith with those four Apocalyptic Horseman in your wake.

At least, if Big G is in charge of Hades, I know when I get there it'll be a Disco Inferno.

Now stop it, boys and girls of the CBBS, or his already elephantine head will swell yet further.

[Terry Jones]He's not the Antichrist, he's just a very naughty boy.[/Terry Jones].
 
 
Foust is SO authentic
22:44 / 17.11.02
That place never ceases to amaze me. People - Morethananything specifically - create threads on how to "witness" to unbelievers. When the holes in his plans are pointed out, he insists that such talk is off-topic. Good for him.
 
 
Ganesh
22:47 / 17.11.02
Or "Satan's lies", that handy catch-all category for pretty much any dissenting viewpoint. I wonder how he distinguishes "Satan's lies" from God-given free will to disagree?
 
 
mike12345
02:10 / 18.11.02
"Ooh, our newest member is mike12345, I've just noticed. Spooky."

I've never been called "Spooky" before. Cool.
 
 
Seth
06:01 / 18.11.02
Gahhh. Ganesh as a Ring Wraith has just totally opened up LOTR to all kinds of slash possibilities. Frodo, protect the Ring!

Don't worry, 'Nesh: ze didn't equate you with Satan. Ze just said that you're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan, designed and directed by his red right hand. But there's no way you could know this, being a filthy unsaved sinner: a non-Christian. At least that's a better term than pre-Christian, a term that some have taken to using.
 
 
Peach Pie
10:19 / 18.11.02
sorry zocher - but i am finding this fascinating and would like to continue a little longer. ok kids - here's an excerpt from the CBBS "Men's board" - set up for men to talk about menstuff. Here various men discuss the topic of marital infidelity:

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Haley
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posted September 27, 2002 11:13 PM
If you are a man who has had an affair (and are willing to admit it!), but remained in your marriage and still love your wife, I would like to hear from you. What led to the affair? Why do men cheat? Can a man cheat and still love his wife?

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Future Firefighter
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posted September 28, 2002 08:34 PM
I'm sorry, that I don't fit any of your criterea, but my dad had an affair when I was in high school. He is a lawyer and it was with another lawyer in his office that worked for him. They would spend lots of time on cases as well as travel all over the country.

She is 10 years younger than him. Yes, he had an affair, but my parents did get a divorce because they couldn't handle it anymore. Men cheat because we're lustful, at least some of us and we tend to follow our physical desires, and then rationalize it.

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"There is no greater love than this,
There is no greater gift that could ever be given,
To be willing to die, so another might live,
There is no greater love than this."

-Steven Curtis Chapman from Song, "No Greater Love" on Declaration


curioustraveller
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posted September 30, 2002 12:26 PM
Hmm.... a complex issue sometimes, when it comes to the nature of affairs...does 'lust' play a role.. of course... but, this is usually a bit more complex... and remember, women have affairs too. (and for the sake of good order.. I have not had an affair myself).

Take 'Bill and Janet'...happily married when they did marry. They took care of each others love in the beginning.. Bill was always affectionate towards Janet, started his day with a warm hug and told her 'I love you', often, and with great enthusiasm. He was an attentive and focused listener, and never let anything get in the way of Janet, be it the TV, or friends, or hobbies, or his involvment with church.

Janet felt loved, safe, and appreciated as a result. She responded by sharing herself physically with him with energy and enthusiasm. In spite of the fact that she was working with lots of men, and got various 'offers' it was of no interest whatsoever to her....

Fast forward a few years... Bill comes home... he is completely exhausted most days, and just wants to read a paper, and play with the children a bit, and catch the 10 o'clock news. The deep and hearfelt conversations that Janet so much appreciated is not there anymore... Bill tells her he loves her still, but she feels as if it does not have the same sincerety anymore. Bill is too busy with work, church and kids to truly take care of her deepseeted needs for affection and the good conversation.. .The fact that the TV is on most of the evening does not help either...

She still share herself physically with Bill, but the enthusiasm is not there.. It is moreoften than not a matter of duty...

Enter Jack... a colleage of Janet at work... He is always upbeat and friendly with everyone at work; it seems to be in his nature. He greets Janet with a bright 'good morning' every day.. and during lunch breaks, he TALKS to her.... and is focused... something that Bill has not been for years... The conversation can be about trivial matters, but Janet feels as if Jack is interested in what SHE has to say.....

As time goes on, and Bill continues to ignore Janets pleas for a good talk, Jack is still his talkative self.... and Janet starts to look forward to the lunchbreaks.

An emotional affair is thus a fact; Janet gets her needs for conversation met by somebody else than her husband.... She did not intend for that to happen, and Jack did not either; He is simply an extrovert guy with an interest in people.

Now... Janet comes to Bill and tells him she needs more of his undivided attention.. and Bill promises to make more of an effort.

However, the demands of Bills Job, his involvement with church, and various civic organisations simply overwhealm him, and Janet is not a priority.. she is his wife is does she not ?, and should love him unconditionally ?

If Jack continues to show and interest in talking to Janet, and Bill does not, the chances of the emotional affair becomming physical is very much a real thing. It was not however intended to be so by either one in the start.

All manner of people, even with very strong moral convictions can fall into this trap; Ministers of large congregations can also be guilty of this.

Does it excuse it ? No...
Does it mean that I think it is acceptable.. No..
Does it mean that all straying people have spouses that does not meet their needs.. No, of course not.

However....
 
 
Peach Pie
10:32 / 18.11.02
Here is a Christian Battle of the Sexes:

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agelessdancer
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posted October 20, 2002 07:15 PM
Okay, I'm not trying to pick a fight, I promise. I love men. As I've stated here before, some of my best friends are men. There is just one thing that men tend to do that just irritates the foo-foo out of me. If a man's wife, in the natural processof aging,childbirth, etc.; starts to put on a little weight, you guys get all bent out of shape whining and pouting about your're just not attracted to her anymore. Well, do ya think she's still drooling over your bald head, false teeth, and beer gut? I mean,are you people really so drop dead gorgeous that you have the audacity, the unmitigated gall to criicize a woman for putting on a few pounds after giving birth to your children? What is up with that????????? I understand being concerned about a loved one's health, but all you people seem to care about is not having a size 5 Barbie on your elbow. Unless your Tom Cruise, you better come down from Planet Imtheman and join the rest of us here in the real world. Men don't age anymore gracefully than women do.
I'm not directing this at anyone in particular. Just the male gender in general.Guess I just needed to let off a little steam. I hope I didn't offend anyone. If I did,just chalk it up to a fat lady with P.M.S. which by the way stands for Puttin' up with Men's Stuff.


roman
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posted October 20, 2002 07:26 PM
Men do not lost as much in his look with aging as women do. But this is not a point. American men have options. If some middle age American does not like the way his wife looks like he can send his profile in one of marriage agency in Eastern Europe or South East Asia and in the next few weeks get for himself a drop gorges brand new wife half of his age.

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kung_foo_christian
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posted October 20, 2002 07:29 PM
All right, ease down there tubby.
Maybe lay off the "eating for two" Baskin Robbins and you might snap back into shape after the little tacker.
Elle Macpherson did it, it cant be THAT big an expectation for us men to have now can it?
-KFC

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I ask myself... "What would Jesus do".
And I figured he'd probably heal some people, feed a couple thousand others with a fillet-o-fish, turn some water into wine and bring some dead people back to life... Since I can't do any of those things I ask myself "What would MacGyver do"


justagirl84
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posted October 20, 2002 08:47 PM
Hey thats's cruel guys! Is that what men really do when u get preganat? That is horrible then, hey guys, your wives are carrying YOUR child. What do u mean women lose more in the looks department then men in the ageing process?! HELLO, thats so crap. When men get old there EARS get REALLY big and there HAIR comes out! My Grandma is heaps better lookin then my grandad by the way!

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Funny how $10 looks so big when we take it to church
and so small when we take it to the store.

Funny how we believe what a person or magazines say,
but question what the Bible says.

Funny how laborious it is to read a chapter in the Bible and
how easy it is to read 2-300 pages of a best selling novel.

Funny, isn't it?


HisWarrior
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posted October 20, 2002 09:26 PM
That's cruel? Her hubby says she fat and immediately all men are to blame.
Dancer, get a clue. I've never seen you, to my knowledge, and have no idea what your weight is. So both o' you blame who you're upset with, not a bunch o' strangers.


fireofgod
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posted October 20, 2002 09:38 PM
Hmmm...HisWarrior, interesting response. And pray tell what you are so riled up about? No one called YOU fat. YOU never gave birth or suffered through the labor process, did you? Ever been in a woman's shoes? The sacrificial act of giving birth should be honored and certainly not used to insult a woman or hold her in scorn because her body changed. So you're so riled up because of what now?

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HisWarrior
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posted October 20, 2002 09:50 PM
I think I posted what I'm riled 'bout. I never, nor did most men, call Dancer fat. So blame the source, not to innocent.


fireofgod
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posted October 20, 2002 09:54 PM
Whew!! Touchy subject, eh?

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laio
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posted October 20, 2002 09:58 PM
okay here is my 1 too many cents worth for this thread. Personally, i feel the first two replies were quiet shallow and cruel, but that is Their perspective, not all guys in general. I believe that is what hiswarrior was trying to say, and was upset about. Not all guys are like that. In fact, i know two very personally and dearly who do not mind my imperfect details... they look right pass them into me, and my soul within. Sure they are there, but they love me so much, it just doesnt matter. Women, as a woman personally... pregnancies and all hey gain the healthy weight you need to, and if ya pack on 10 pounds or so, that is normal, but also please take care of yourselves. No one wants to really exercise, but out of love for you and your husbands, take pride in how you look... at the same time husbands be understanding and caring. Weight is a very sensitive thing. Dont tell a wife cause of her weight it makes her unattractive, instead try to boost her. Tell her what it is about her that you love so much and what turns ya on. I do believe most wives do want to please their husbands. But always before addressing such things, pray and seek to the Lord... pray that he gives you the wisdom to say the right words that your wife needs to hear, and pray that you may have the right motivations. Women have a hard enough time dealing with their non barbie qualities... they do not need someone expecting them to be the impossible... we are not all built like barbie...we are each uniquely made.


HisWarrior
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posted October 20, 2002 10:03 PM
Well said, Laio. Nice to hear some rational thinkin' here.


catheriney2k
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posted October 20, 2002 11:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by kung_foo_christian:

All right, ease down there tubby.
Maybe lay off the "eating for two" Baskin Robbins and you might snap back into shape after the little tacker.
Elle Macpherson did it, it cant be THAT big an expectation for us men to have now can it?
-KFC

YOU SAY YOUR A CHRISTIAN DO U REMEBER THIS MAT 7:1
JUDGE YE NOT LESS BE JUDGED
JUST REMEMBER THIS JESUS DIDNT JUDGE WHO HE WAS GOING TO DIE FOR
TAKE THAT TO HEART AND HEED THAT


catheriney2k
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posted October 20, 2002 11:06 PM
JESUS WALKED AROUND IN A ROBE PERFORMING WONDERS HE WASNT WORRIED ABOUT WHAT OTHERS THOUGHT ABOUT HIM OR YHE WASNT LOOKING AT ANY ONE ...I DARE SOME ONE TO PICK ON JESUS
I THINK NOT


kung_foo_christian
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posted October 21, 2002 12:06 AM
Oh please, I'd have thought you people would have realised I was being ironic when I compared her to Elle.
Can't a fella be a little lighthearted?
Evidently Catheriney2k knows what hypocrisy is though...
"YOU SAY YOUR A CHRISTIAN"..."JUDGE YE NOT LESS BE JUDGED"
Aahh dear...
Anyway
agelessdancer made a broad generalisation about men, so I responded with good humour by adopting the role she'd thrust upon me by assuming the persona of a stereotypical chauvinistic male.
agelessdancer also shot herself in the foot when she said "Unless your Tom Cruise, you better come down from Planet Imtheman" suggesting in fact that although she feels all women should be treated with respect no matter their appearance, she would be more lenient if the man was as good looking as Tom Cruise, this is another case of contradiction, double standards and hypocrisy.
If you have a problem with me making a joke, I suggest first you examine your own ideals.
-KFC

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I ask myself... "What would Jesus do".
And I figured he'd probably heal some people, feed a couple thousand others with a fillet-o-fish, turn some water into wine and bring some dead people back to life... Since I can't do any of those things I ask myself "What would MacGyver do"


HisWarrior
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posted October 21, 2002 01:34 AM
Kenpo Christian high fives Kung Foo Christian.


kung_foo_christian
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posted October 21, 2002 01:42 AM
*slap*

-KFC


IBnRedeemed
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Ok, at the risk of being the outcast here, I want to say that my wife was more beautiful pregnant than before. Not because I am thrilled by the look of a woman with an unnatural bulge in her midsection (LOL), but because she is carrying MY child. I was so proud when my wife was pregnant with my children, I couldn't stand it. Now, after she had my child, there was a need for her to lose the extra "baby fat", but it didn't make her any less of a person, nor did I ever mention that she was fat or ugly. I have been married for nearly 11 years now, and my wife went from 150 pounds when I met her, to nearly 300 pounds during her childbearing years, and now back down to 135 pounds. But, she dropped all her weight, not for me, or because I thought she was a "cow", but because #1. it became a real health issue, and #2. She wanted to feel good about HERSELF. Granted, she is much more PHYSICALLY attractive to me now, but the person inside has never changed. The woman I fell in love with is still inside, and (as randy travis so eloquently put it) "your hair is turning gray, but even if it all fell out, I'd still love you anyway"

In God's Ever Abundant Love,

Carl

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Sean_P
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posted October 21, 2002 03:52 PM
I won't touch this one.

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justagirl84
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posted October 22, 2002 03:50 AM
good choice

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Funny how $10 looks so big when we take it to church
and so small when we take it to the store.

Funny how we believe what a person or magazines say,
but question what the Bible says.

Funny how laborious it is to read a chapter in the Bible and
how easy it is to read 2-300 pages of a best selling novel.

Funny, isn't it?


655321
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posted October 22, 2002 08:53 AM
{just chalk it up to a fat lady with P.M.S. which by the way stands for Puttin' up with Men's Stuff.}

agelessdancer,
your problem is obvious. You blame men for your own dissatisfaction with yourself. You refer to yourself as a "fat lady", which sounds to me like you don't find yourself very attractive. Are men to blame for your own lack of self-esteem?
You even blame your own hormonal exchanges on men! "Puttin' up with men's stuff", indeed. . .

Quit looking for validation from the world. Concern yourself with being validated by God instead; this is all that really matters anyway.

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grant
14:24 / 18.11.02
Hi Spooky Mike12345!

What do you do for kicks??
 
 
mike12345
15:29 / 18.11.02
"Hi Spooky Mike12345!

What do you do for kicks??"


Hi Grant! For kicks? I make nachos.

I also get a kick out of everyone's wit here at Barbelith, I've been perusing the posts here for the past few days... I am a fairly regular poster (in case you didn't know) at CBBS, with which you all are so intrigued. I'm also a Christian, so maybe that makes me even spookier to some of you. *utters a mischievous laugh* By the way, you can blame Ganesh for inviting me here.

One question: Where are the TOS for this board, or do you have any?
 
 
Mourne Kransky
16:07 / 18.11.02
Lots of lovely, cuddly Christians here, Mike12345.

I was even baptised myself in the very church where John Knox preached the first protestant sermon in Scotland. Of course, since my eyes were opened to the fact that Ganesh is The Hornèd God, I suppose that's my immortal soul deep fried in batter.

Must go and cook the evil old tusker's tea now. Heat up the cauldron, dig out the Schwartz refill pack of eye of newt. The cats are looking a bit nervous...
 
 
mike12345
16:42 / 18.11.02
Eye of newt! Yum! But what's a "tusker"?
 
 
Jack Fear
16:43 / 18.11.02
"ToS"?

Ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Oh, that's a good one, Mike.
 
 
Jack Fear
16:47 / 18.11.02
The "tusker," by the way, would be Ganesh himself.

Here's a picture of his namesake, who is much revered by folk of the Hindu persuasion...

 
 
mike12345
16:56 / 18.11.02
Ah, I just found out what a "tusker" was. On the net, I found the following def'n:

"TUSKER" is a heavy duty, homogeneous and flexible vinyl flooring manufactured in India using the latest calendering technology from South Korea.

And now I just noticed your pic, Jack. Ganesh!

Are there are any real Hindus on this board? I have some questions for them.
 
 
grant
17:09 / 18.11.02
That's a very good question, actually.

There's been users named Ganesh, Kali, Matsya and even a Dayglo Indian Goddess, but I can't think of anyone fessing up to being a Hindu believer.....
 
 
Ganesh
17:25 / 18.11.02
Think y'have to be born into it, really. Otherwise both myself and ZoCher would be tempted - if we were guaranteed Brahmin Class seats...
 
 
Mourne Kransky
17:49 / 18.11.02
Ganesh, of course, has only one and a half tusks (which sits oddly with the Hindu belief that you must not worship a broken idol). There are several explanations for the broken tusk, of which my favourite is this one.

Portly Lord Ganesh is fond of sweets, hence the piles of Ferrero Rochers always pictured with him. His devotees make offerings of food to him and he scoffs them down, greedily. One day, full to bursting of "puddings", he was riding home on his trusty mouse.

It was dusk and, in the half dark, the little mouse suddenly stumbled over a snake. Ganesh fell to the ground and, swollen with sweets, his stomach burst open and the cakes poured out.

Ganesh collected and replaced them in his now empty and open belly and, to hold it all in, he caught the guilty snake and used him as a belt. You can often see him wearing the snake belt in representations.

The Moon, Chandra, overcome with Schadenfreude and the comedy of the cake explosion and DIY surgery, burst out laughing.

Ganesh was very annoyed, since the evening had not gone well so far, and he snapped off his right tusk and threw it to the moon.

More seriously, until then the moon had shone fully every night. Ganesh, in his grump, cursed her so that thereafter she would wax and wain. It is accordingly bad luck (for believing Hindus) to look at the moon on Ganesh's birthday.
 
 
Ganesh
17:52 / 18.11.02
[CBBS] Off-topic. You're all banned, and will be shot forthwith. [/CBBS]
 
  

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