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16:51 / 20.06.02

'People I know feel it hasn’t been as interesting this year, and are generally attributing that to the people chosen. Anyone have any comments on this ? '

Not sure whether it's down to the people being more dull or just the format losing it's novelty appeal. I've certainly watched it far less than last year or the year before. I only really catch it one or twice a week so i missed Jade and Adeles' slanging match. Can't say i'm really bothered although i'd still stand by Jades' Rubbery Lovelyness and Spencer being the 'coolest man alive' for about 4seconds on the clip that i saw...

17:53 / 20.06.02

The mood was set for a true 'Jadeism', and after PJ enquired who, in Greek legend, had his wings burned after flying too close to the sun, sure enough it came: "Agatha Christie!"

22:11 / 20.06.02

Tory Boy Tim apparently spends half an hour each morning back-combing his hair with a dog grooming brush before adding wax. I suspect he also back-combs his nose - don't you think he looks a little... Local?

The Natural Way

11:19 / 21.06.02

God, I hate him, what a c...naughty, parched anus!

What was that shit about how he really enjoyed his politics degree, but, y'know, he's a tory because ALL HIS FAMILY ARE....IT'S A TRADITION? On the one hand stressing the importance of study and exploration and, on the other, advocating mindless, dronelike conformity. And settling for the latter. He didn't give reasons, just explained how, in his family, Torylove was kinda like an heirloom and expected everyone to understand (which they did) and quickly put paid to the idea of an education: it's useless, when all you have to do is nod yr head....

This is the kind of thing I hate: where education's a fine thing until it bumps heads w/ any of our prejudices and then "Hey! No! No! No! Wrooong! I don't care how much you've looked into it! No! Wroooong!" The end of thinking and the beginning of THE TRUTH!

Ruuun! THE TRUTH's coming! It's gonna eat us! It won't listen to reason...

I think I might have got a bit carried away.

Sorry.

11:20 / 21.06.02

e randy dupre --- i think that jade missed out on a lot of schooling because she was looking after her alcoholic mum. at least thats what i heard.
spencer is getting all horny and gross. out i say out!

22:10 / 21.06.02

I can barely see to type, my tears are flowing like Mother Ganges... Spencer ... is ... gone ... ... ... [heaving sobs]

22:27 / 21.06.02

Spencer: attractive, cool, sexy... but dull.

09:05 / 22.06.02

They really should do a fantasy reunion Big Brother type thing soon. Nicola, Caggy, Sade, Helen, Jade, Sandy, Craig, Nick, Alex, Bubbles, Vanessa Feltz and Anthea Turner in a totally blacked out house which we watch by infra red for 10 weeks as they scrabble around on all fours trying to find out where the food has been hidden. Perfect television. I'm going to pitch that to channel four right now!!

11:35 / 22.06.02

Do people think that the voting is getting crueler this year? I'm kind of interested in this. First year it actually seemed that the 'bad' or 'irritating' people were voted out and the actually nice (and the innoffensive) people were left in. This year it seems that the irritating people being left in because it's funnier. That seems weirdly cruel to me...

15:54 / 22.06.02

Not really. Lee got voted out over Johnny, which was fair enough as he didn't seem to bring much to the house (not that any of them do, but still). Alex has had a good couple of weeks, managing to display a sense of humour and finding a previously undiscovered likable quality, whereas Spencer, as Mr Ganesh says, was yawnsome.

20:45 / 22.06.02

why did they play the birdie song? those poor housemates are going to have that song stuck in their heads for ages now.
i think thats the main thing i couldn't cope without in the big brother house: music. i'd go insane. i'd be like jade, singing all the time.
so...
did jade cheat?
how cool is jonny?
has anyone noticed that the posh side is a couples paradiso?
how funny is it going to be to see tim and sophie on the poor side?

15:50 / 24.06.02

“Tonight on Channel 4… live musical chairs !”

I mean, come on… though the way they had to choose who was going to be on which side was interesting. Especially as Alex looked more traumatised than Johnny about it.

One thing that’s been notably absent from this series (as far as I know – maybe E4 shows differently ?) is the “Big Brother has set the group a conversation topic of…” chats, which used to be moderately revealing (Nick in BB1 lying about a dead wife, Paul in BB2 and his tale of his grandfather’s death, Bubble about his daughter, that kind of thing). Think that would add to it. And probably allow for some more of the inexplicably popular Jade comments…

DBC

16:19 / 24.06.02

whoah, i missed people lying about dead relatives. then again, i missed the entire big brother two because i was in the us of stateside. sounds weird.
i never thought i'd say this but they have to stop picking on sophie. it's so mean!

17:11 / 24.06.02

Why would somebody hide in bed to shave their chest under the duvet? Why would anybody shave their chest, come to that?

23:41 / 24.06.02

i hope alex wins the money. last night most things he did made me laugh. glad spencer is gone, dull dull dull dull dull. maybe now all the girls i meet will stop goin on about how 'beautiful' his eyes are

10:10 / 25.06.02

Oop, perhaps I should clarify:

In BB1, Nick told a sad tale about marrying a girl in secret (in France, IIRC) and that she’d died in a car crash in Australia. He later admitted to one or two of the housemates that this was entirely untrue.

In BB2 last year, Paul told about how he’d had a large row with his grandfather, who’d died shortly thereafter, before he’d had a chance to make up with him; Paul says that as he knew his grandfather had been proud of him getting into college, he decided to work really hard and try to do really well by way of honouring his grandfather’s memory. And he did – getting a commendation for his coursework or similar. Paul was rather tearful as he related this tale.
And Bubble’s discussion about his daughter showed a softer, less ‘laddish’ side to him, which was an interesting contrast to what we’d seen before. Again, there were red-rimmed watery eyes.
All of which was more interesting, to my mind, than the sort of chats we’ve seen recently – Sunita and Jade rowing about addiction strikes me as the nearest we’ve seen to this kind of thing.
Anyone with E4 able to tell me if they do have ‘discussion topics’ set for them ?

Actually, I see a certain echo between Bubble and Spencer – apparently popular with the public and the housemates (read : contestants) alike, but out of the game by the halfway point or thereabouts.
Similarly, Alex may prove to be the Craig of this year’s series…

DBC

11:12 / 30.06.02

What was all the revolution malarchy about last night?

12:52 / 01.07.02

Assuming that this is the stuff that was on Sunday night’s show :

After the task, only Tim was on the rich side, and the others were threatening to jump the divide and be done with it, hang the consequences… so they went into the diary room (four of ‘em) and said what they were thinking about doing. They were told that Big Brother takes rulebreaking very seriously, then went out to ‘think about it’ and didn’t do anything at all. Vive la revolution…

Kate gets my respect for at least having a go at getting the bars taken down with the gamble at the end of the task.

My guess for nominees this week ? Tim (being on the other side of the fence + others have started muttering about him + new kids rarely last long) and Jade (others muttering about her + any number of personality aspects).

LOVED the bit where Adele accused Jade of never listening to anyone else. Jade’s eyes rolled all over the shop as if she was looking for some kind of response (if that theory of eyes moving in certain places to show certain kinds of thought process is true, she was truly lost).

DBC

14:56 / 01.07.02

i am really beginning to hate adele. she encouraged jade to bitch, and now is bitching about her. actually, all adele ever does is bitch, bitch, bitch! she is driving me crazy.
as i said, i still love jade. i find it annoying having to defend her all the time, but that always happens with me and my crushes.

ONLY NICE THINGS

15:12 / 01.07.02

What does Jade actually *do* on the outside? How does she live? It seems from my limited exposure and conversation elsewhere that she is barely able to function as a human being, cannot hold a conversation, is quite startlingly ignorant, and so stupid as to generate a series of apparently pathological traits.

a) What sick sadist threw her into Big Brother and b) how come she was not killed and eaten in the years before it?

15:20 / 01.07.02

She's a Dental Nurse I believe but I'm sure she'll be flooded with job offeres after Big Brother, toothpaste ads I reckon.

23:13 / 01.07.02

She's managed to perfect the act of glassless window-licking...

Jack The Bodiless

17:03 / 02.07.02

You confuse me. To what do you refer, Mr. Merrick?

17:27 / 02.07.02

Her permanently-squished-up-against-an-invisible-pane-of-glass pugness of feature. In Brian Sewell's typically memorable words, she has "the looks of something pupped by a Japanese fighting dog from 'The Dong with the Luminous Nose'".

The Natural Way

17:48 / 02.07.02

Yeah, I loathe the girl, but in a telly way. I'm a bit concerned about all the horrid media-filth surrounding her, though. I mean, when she and Adele are evicted later this week, and her physical self intersects with her GOD-OF-PUG media-image....well, it's gonna be really hard. And she doesn't deserve it. No-one deserves it. And if one prick says: "Hey, those fuckers've got it coming to them...they knew what to expect!" Well to that I say, "Fuck you, no-one knows what to expect!"

The press have been really irresponsible with a delicate, babyish individual and Graham Norton....I want to slap his stupid face.

13:59 / 03.07.02

i heard that jade's mum is worried about the tabloid media being mean to her, because she has such low self-esteem, obviously, and it's just horrible.
i'm sick of all the jade is uglyt comments, but then, as i said before, i look like jade and take it sot-of personally. it's weird because the newspapers are all about how everyone hates jade, and thinks shes annoying/ugly, but everyone i know is in a piss with adele.
adele is the one who encourages jade to bitch, and is such a bitch herself! ugh, yeah, i'm voting for adele.
but if jade does come out this week and people boo and the tabloids are mean, i'm going to be really upset. just am, k?

14:00 / 03.07.02

runs, i agree with, like, everything you said. dude!

14:12 / 03.07.02

You haven't been lynched in the street, have you, Suds?

Yes, it is horrible - but compulsively, shamefully so. Of course nothing can fully prepare someone for the BB experience - but one might speculate that, even if Jade herself wasn't sufficiently savvy to spot the potential pitfalls (being less-than-physically-perfect, being less than Heinsteinianly-brilliant, being all things to all people) those adults around her (her family and, more controversially, the show's producers/psychologists) might have advised her against its use as a self-esteem booster...

And yeah, I think it'll be traumatic for her come eviction night - although I daresay Davina will try to soften things. Once she's out, though, those around her will doubtless manage to spin her infamy into some sort of exhibitionistic, at least notionally self-esteem-stroking media 'career'.

If I were you, Suds, I'd be hesitant to pin my own identity/self-esteem too heavily to such a charmless (if pitiful) sacrificial lamb.

Adele, on the other hand, is Evil Incarnate...

14:22 / 03.07.02

The main worry where Jade's concerned should be the reception she'll receive from the crowd come eviction night (and I think that there's a good possibility that she'll survive this week, what with Adele facing the boot). Weren't there boos and hisses for one of the previous evictees? That, IMO, is potentially more damaging that any amount of negative tabloid attention.

Not saying that I won't get some perverse car-crash pleasure from the whole spectacle, mind you.

The Natural Way

14:37 / 03.07.02

Adele IS evil incarnate. She's for the chop, I reckon.

Sud's: everyone I know hates Adele (and not in a telly way).

Devious, nasty fucking hypocrite. We're watching you. And we want to slap yr shrew head.

ONLY NICE THINGS

14:40 / 03.07.02

Good that we can all have fun slaggin off the women for being ugly and threatening violence against them. 'Cos it's not sexist if they're on Big Brother, is it?

Besides, that's just poor. If you disagree with smacking children it seems terribly hypocritical to slap someone on Big Brother.

15:16 / 03.07.02

Oh, practically every housemate this year is ugly - inside or outside - and deserves violence. Tim, in particular, would benefit from a good kicking ("I've never made a mistake") and Sandy had us threatening to slap the television set.

Kate, however, is a vision of outer and inner loveliness, and deserves to win.

15:46 / 03.07.02

Actually, if Adele is evicted this week, quite apart from making the power balance in the house more interesting (Alex would be briefly bereft before forming a Posh Boys' Alliance with Tim), it'd be good for Jade. Without her 'stoker', she'd likely bitch less (well, pigs do occasionally fly, arf arf), be tolerated more and quite possibly turn things around. She can be quite entertaining, and I really could see her in the final three.

If she survives this eviction. I'm voting Adele...

16:42 / 03.07.02

ganesh, thank you for the advice. the sacrificial lamb shit worked with me a treat. merci beaucoup.

(but jade is so cute though!)
ahem.

good to see everyone is voting for adele. i agree whole-heartedly with ganesh in that jade will certainly bitch less if adele isn't there. and maybe alex will be less annoying!

16:46 / 03.07.02

Runs:

" And if one prick says: "Hey, those fuckers've got it coming to them...they knew what to expect!" Well to that I say, "Fuck you, no-one knows what to expect!"

Yep. Even if the housemates do know what to expect, it doesn't make the pleasure people take in sticking the knife in any less ugly. "But yer Honour, she was asking for it! Putting herself on display like that, what's a healthy hot-blooded person with an over-developed sense of disgust to do, eh?"

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