Barbelith Underground > Policy & Help > PETITION TO CLOSE DOWN BARBELITH AND HAVE IT REMAIN AN ARCHIVE, A TESTAMENT, A MUSEUM

Most social groups when comprised of the same longterm people eventually change in nature and dynamic or dissolve somewhat. The only things to talk about are 'new stuff' and sometimes yelling at the new bugs. New bugs are finding 'new stuff' to talk about on subjects longtermers have already done to death [i]but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to do so again[/i]. Who knows maybe the wise can occasionally learn from the fools no?

This is why it's dying. How on earth a forum is dying [i]and not a direct result of what you, the members (with a pretty tight grip on new membership), do or do not do[/i] is clearly beyond my feeble grasp of reality. Maybe you don't have anything new to add to some perennial topics...so don't.

You want it closed? Just accept it and go away or stop griping and do [i]something different[/i] Otherwise you are balancing the same old equation that equals THIS.

You wanna keep your toy to yourself to conserve some great testament? For WHOM? Surely the memories are yours. The rest of the world is hardly gonna be passing out the laurels to you on a great forum history well done.

This generalised value system implicit in some members is a totally bizarre set of attitudes which I’ve never got – different strokes and that but maybe sometimes people are…well….wrong. We all miss the good times (in any era of our life) but perhaps we miss what we actually were doing to contribute to this phenomena. If we are no longer doing that, or circumstances disallow that then move on. Victim or Cause people.

Just let this be someone elses playground now. I really think there's a lot of hubris in this whole 'close it and archive' it mentality but then again I simply have not seen eye to eye with some people on the board and never will. Nevertheless I learnt a lot and wish there were more vibrancy through new input – young, unashamed, fumbling and honest. Trolls will be trolls but that’s life and some people really need to harden the fuck up.

Maybe an influx of new people will mean more people to take over the modding responsibilities. I do know that the banning functionality is problematic and fair enough. Maybe if Tom saw it moving with new traffic, maybe earning more pennies from them thar advertisements he’d give an extra shit about new functionality? Systems thinking hhmmmmm…..

Blow the bloody doors off and let it go and see what happens.

I think these sentiments have been said by other people and usually get poo pooed (not mention the inevitable snark a-coming from some quarters). Oh well – the evidence for perpetuating the same set of behaviours is right before your very eyes as you read this. At least we can have a good moan about it though eh?