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Shut the FUCK UP: the thread for things/people/animals/entities that need to shut up

 
  

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STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:33 / 30.11.07
Ah, that's probably why it's never appealed to me.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
15:46 / 30.11.07
I meant Starburger. Sorry.
 
 
Princess
16:08 / 30.11.07
Same deal with rent-boys, if you have low prices you have fewer customers.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
16:20 / 30.11.07
I'm full of bile today. What should be a lovely job in a lovely place with lovely people - effectively, what should be the best job I'll ever have in my life (even if the pay is shitter than shit) is rapidly being destroyed by one single motherfucking piece of shit arsehole wankstain fuckinGMOTHERFUCKINGRANCIDDICKWADMISERABLESHITBRAINEDCOCKHOLE sorry, you get the picture.

And my bile has made me remember the moment that set the day off to a flying start:

John Humphrys. Shut the FUCK up.

My non-love of Humphrys is well documented elsewhere in these pages, but today's Today was possibly the lowest of a never-ending series of low points for intelligent news broadcasting.

Every other morning, the item immediately before Thought for the Day is five minutes of "ZOMG Political Correctness is am go MAD now" radio water torture. Today, Humphrys tells us - in his lilting, sneering, cocksure, smarmy twat voice - that "it may soon be the end of those lovely little kissing gates and stiles that are seen throughout the English countryside - proper England, like, not that place with all the immigrants and EU laws - in order to comply with disability discrimination legislation."

Cue snort. Seriously, he fucking snorted down the mike. When he does this, I picture that upper class schoolboy that got turned into an alien in that recent Doctor Who. Just like that. the kind of sneering mug that you desperately want to plant one on. Right in the fucking kisser.

In your mind's eye, of course. Wouldn't want anybody reading this to contact the authorities or anything. There are safety and harrassment issues, dontchaknow.

Anyway. he snorts. Then he goes "this can't be true, can it?" to a guy who's come in from a county council countryside dept.

He has to editorialise everything. I never listened to Today until a couple of years ago, but if it's always been like this I wish to god Alistair Campbell had got his way and had the entire thing shut down. It's no fucking better than the Mail. It's worse, actually, because you can actually hear the superiority complex oozing out of the tosser's pores as he's talking.

You're meant to be a news reporter, dick. It's not a fucking opinion piece.

ANYWAY. The second guest in this item is a disabled member of the Ramblers' Association. Humphreys spends the entire interview mocking her. Actually, that's not quite true. He spends half of the interview doing that, the other half talking over her when she's trying to respond to him. She tells him that actually, this is important stuff and not something for him to be getting high and mighty about, ebcause only 1% to 2% of English countryside rights of way are accessible to disabled users *because* of kissing gates and stiles.

Which point he ignores and doesn't bother responding to, because he wants to carry on sneering and shouting her down. Which, of course, he's perfectly at liberty to do, because he controls the volume of the microphones.

They're pieces of wood, you turd. That's all. They do not represent the last bastion of Englishness, the final barrier being held up in front of floods of darkies and feminists by an ever-dwindling band of right-thinking middle class, middle-England heroes. PIECES OF FUCKING WOOD.

He's a piece of shit. And it's noticable that it's only the days when he's presenting that the show runs with these PCGUNMAD items.

It's getting to the stage where he's even starting to make Ann Atkins' TFTD tirades sound liberal and fair-minded. What a fucking prick. He's even looking down on us all in his agent's publicity photograph - one eye raised, hint of a "what a joke! Europe makes us eat straight bananas and won't let us use blackboards! How utterly ridiculous, Tarquin!" smile on his mouth. Eminently punchable.

Still, at least I can turn him off once I've become enraged enough to get out of bed and kick the radio alarm. Unlike this shithead at work.

Although she's not broadcasting her vicious bullshit to the entire nation. So it balances out somewhat.

Humphreys: STFU.
 
 
Liger Null
00:20 / 01.12.07
Erm, what exactly are kissing gates and stiles?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
00:39 / 01.12.07

A kissing gate


A stile
 
 
Liger Null
01:53 / 01.12.07
Thanks!

Gah! Those things look like they'd be a pain in the ass for able-bodied people to maneuver, much less wheelchair-bound folks.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
01:58 / 01.12.07
I never listened to Today until a couple of years ago, but if it's always been like this I wish to god Alistair Campbell had got his way and had the entire thing shut down.

Mightn't this because you are, in fact, Alistair Campbell? Not that it's a criticism! I for one enjoyed your self-serving, bitter and in some ways aggressively paranoid autohagiography, so not to go changing your style, man, just because it's Barbelith!
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
07:37 / 01.12.07
Fucking hell Humphrys, I'm going to have to go and Listen Again to that Today thing, my parents live in Kent and trying to find countryside walks my Mum can do (she can walk off-road but isn't mobile enough to faff about with stiles) is incredibly difficult.

Anyone still caring about the Morrisey thing, Tim Jonze puts his POV across via the Guardian. Basically, Morrissey said everything he was quoted as saying, and his management are trying to distract everyone to that by concentrating on the byline issue which is not really connected to what Moz said.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
09:21 / 01.12.07
Holy fuck, what a toolish thing to go on the radio and complain about! You don't even need to get rid of the stiles or the kissing gates, just make another hole in the fence and put in a more negotiable barrier.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
09:31 / 01.12.07
Cock off Humphrys. Why is he so keen on stopping people of restricted mobility and those with children from going anywhere off of main public streets just to keep a bunch of old pieces of wood? Let alone the fact that these days there are lots of stiles in fields and woodland areas that no longer have animals in them. I can understand taking the contrary position to someone in an interview but he seems to be genuinely arguing that people in wheelchairs don't have the same rights of access as walkers do. (Listen again link, valid until next Friday, at 7:40 am)
 
 
Spatula Clarke
10:25 / 01.12.07
Did you like that his entire argument seemed to be "why do disabled people need to get through stiles or kissing gates anyway? It's not like they'll magically discover that they can walk when they get to the other side, anyway!!!1111!!!11mesoedgy."

I know that I did.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
10:41 / 01.12.07
What are they going to do instead of the gates?
 
 
All Acting Regiment
10:46 / 01.12.07
Because, call me a tosspot, but I quite like little wooden gates and so on, in the same way that I liked hardback books in the other thread, and can see these things being knocked out in the name of some kind of spurious 'efficiency'. Note, not 'PC' or 'because of the wheelchair people' - I just mean that people with authority, given a chance to ruin and debase things in order that they be cheaper and look better on the business report, will often take it. I'm probably missing something and I'll shut up now.
 
 
petunia
12:33 / 01.12.07
Are kissing gates actually any good for stopping sheep anyway?

I like the things, climbing stiles and going through gates, all very countryside English etc. Nostalgic and quite nice. But who's to say we can't design mobility-enabling gates that are rustic and friendly?

And for those who want to keep the stiles - why not keep them on routes that are limiting already - harder rocky stuff or forest walks with unstable terrain? Just remove the things where they pose any extra impediment to a route.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
14:24 / 01.12.07
Well yes All Acting, because pulling out these gates and replacing them with something that people in wheelchairs or with buggies have a fighting chance in getting through would be more efficient and cheaper than doing nothing at all.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
14:53 / 01.12.07
It's not even about wheelchairs. Anybody with a mobility difficulty is going to find a stile a fucking nightmare to deal with. As Liger suspects, they're a pain even for those of us who are fully physically able.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
15:06 / 01.12.07
And it's not even about the things themselves, as much as it's about the main presenter on what's supposed to be one of the BBC's leading news programmes providing yet another stunning example of what a complete and utter, jumbo-sized King Cnut he really is.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:17 / 01.12.07
See, I actually quite like Humphrys, except that he is so often full of shit. As now. A de-shittified Humphrys would rule.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
19:07 / 01.12.07
Yes, what I heard of his programs on religion rocked. I liked him trying to get an answer out of the Archbish of Canterbury as to why God would allow suffering in the universe that wasn't full of shit.
 
 
Princess
17:45 / 04.12.07
Shut up Christopher Penczak!
I do not have a subtley different mix of male and female energies. I have no female energies, I am a male! Stop excusing our failure to be lumberjacks by claiming we are a bit like housewives!
 
 
Liger Null
03:15 / 06.12.07
Reel Girl, SHUT YER TRAP!!!!

"If anything, Apatow nails the general pluses and minuses of each sex. Boys are good at mellowing out and getting stoned. Girls are good at setting alarm clocks and nagging men. Obviously, the battle of the sexes isn't that simple. I mean, I know Back to the Future as well as any dude, but I still laughed when Heigl and her sister didn't know about Doc Brown and the DeLorean."

On the other hand, thank you so much for steering me away from a film that sounds like an utter load of walrus vomit.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:18 / 06.12.07
Shut up Christopher Penczak!
I do not have a subtley different mix of male and female energies. I have no female energies, I am a male! Stop excusing our failure to be lumberjacks by claiming we are a bit like housewives!


Could you unpack this a bit further, I.w.m.A.A.? Vis-a-vis your lack of female energies.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
10:04 / 06.12.07
Having read a bit of Penczak I think I get what he means. The esteemed author of City Magick makes some rather clunky comments re. gender. Still, unpackage would be nice.
 
 
Princess
10:04 / 06.12.07
OK. What annoys me is the way he, and many other pagan authors, take their gender prejudices and elevate them to the level of "cosmic energies" or whatever. Rather than admitting that males can be penetrated or that females might not be heterosexual, they blame it on "mixed energies" in our make-up.

Rather than admit the binary they've set up has flaws, they explain that we are actually just a mixed up version of the binary. As if het women are one thing, het men are another, and queer people are somewhere in between. Penczack is one of the major pagan authors for gay men, yet his system still starts and ends in a position of heteronormativity.

I have no female-ness about me. No vagina, a single x chromosome, a stunning lack of womb. I am male, my desire to get fucked doesn't change that. His "female" energy is just a way of saying "woman are like x, and gay men aren't proper men because they do x, therefore they are women". Which, frankly, is offensive to all parties involved.

Simply, what pisses me off, is that an author who is regulary promoted as a trailblazing author in gay witchcraft starts with the assumption that queer people are all metaphysical "inverts". Which was offensive enough coming from homophobes, it's so much worse coming from someone who's meant to be fighting our corner.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:42 / 06.12.07
Fair enough in your objections. But these two sentences do not have the relation you seem to ascribe to them:

I have no female-ness about me. No vagina, a single x chromosome, a stunning lack of womb.

That is, unless one believes in biological determinism. It might be an idea to consider whether there are people who identify as female who might see an implication in these sentences that the physical/biological characteristics you list are what makes someone female. Or to put it another way, when criticising a heteronormative binary attitude to gender, try not to espouse a heteronormative binary attitude to gender.
 
 
Princess
13:54 / 06.12.07
Wait, how are we defining "female" here?
I'm talking about sex, I think you might be talking about gender.

I'm not coming from a position of biological determinism re: gender. People can identify however they want, and I support that. And I'm not saying that they need any of the things in my list to be female. I'm aware it's more complex than that.

What I was trying to say was that biologically I am male and that I possesed none of the signifiers of a female body. I was sexing myself like I'd sex a kitten. I meant nothing disparaging about FI people without those things, I wasn't using the word "female" in a gender sense, I was using it in a sex sense. And yes, I'm aware that there are more than two sexes, some of which have vaginas, some don't.

Any transgendered folk I may offended, I apologise sincerely. I appreciate my word choice was ambiguous do to the various meanings of the word "female". I fully uphold the right of any individual to identify howsoever they like.

Flyboy, try not to always assume the worst. Some of us are actually not shits.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:56 / 06.12.07
I wasn't "assuming the worst", nor did I imply you were that a shit. It is an unhelpful mindset to think there is an "us" who never get things wrong or phrase things unhelpfully. I do it all the time. The only way I have learnt and will learn is people pointing it out.
 
 
Princess
14:16 / 06.12.07
No, you didn't call me a shit. That was me. Sorry, accusations of heteronormativity are sort of a tender spot on my part for various reasons that are nothing to do with this.

But still. I wasn't espousing a heteronormative view, nor was that the only reading of what I wrote. And it pissed me off that you'd see something so unpleasant in what I wrote.

Probably not your fault, just pushed a button. I can see why you'd interperet that how you did. So, sorry for snark. I felt under attack, and that was probably more to do with me than you.
 
 
grant
19:25 / 07.12.07
Ben Stein, I love your voice and even some of your commentaries, but please, before the TV commercials start, STFU.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
19:42 / 07.12.07
To my way of thinking, Penczak's gender binary kozmik enerjies (which are of course not just Penczak's, occult and pagan writing is lousy with this sort of unchallenged nonsense) are prone to be oppressive of non-cis folk. I would, for example, be very reluctant to tell a transman that he obviously had a lot of female energies because he engaged in some culturally "feminine" pursuits or had some culturally "feminine" traits.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
19:50 / 07.12.07
I don't think anyone's disagreeing with that.
 
 
Blake Head
20:09 / 07.12.07
That's a really annoying, sensationalist ad right there grant - way to go contrasting this current age of censorship with that of Galileo chaps. Wonder how or if it will play over here, when one it is (even more) likely that you actually won't lose chums/workmates over going to the movies.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
20:22 / 07.12.07
Well, no, I didn't say they were disagreeing. I was just elaborating/adding my 2 ha'porth.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
19:43 / 13.12.07
SHUT THE FUCK UP people who use passing a driving test/car ownership as an index of maturity/functionality/general worth as a human being.
 
  

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