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16:19 / 05.07.07

The responses you receive are generated by the posts you contribute.

Is that the same for any responses anyone receives? Do you think they are ever in part a product of the attitudes of those responding?

ONLY NICE THINGS

16:21 / 05.07.07

Both, really, for me.

Mathlete is not a new member, and was not asking a question about Barbelith, but about Mathlete. I had not realised that he wanted to have a conversation about Mathlete, so this seemed to be the easiest way to answer his question. If Mathlete wants to have a conversation about Mathlete, there are better places than this to do it.

Now, perhaps we could put an end both to threadrot and metathreadrot? If Mathlete wants to pursue this, he can do it elsewhere. I have answered his question to the best of my ability, and unless anyone else wants to answer his question, which I would suggest also be done elsewhere, to be honest, that should be an end to it.

16:23 / 05.07.07

He came here for a moan - his question wasn't about Barbelith so much as it was about himself. I didn't even remember who the hell he was until Haus just mentioned the banning thread.

Do you think they are ever in part a product of the attitudes of those responding?

What do you think causes these attitudes?

This Devil's Advocate thing is getting boring now.

16:29 / 05.07.07

Mathlete is not a new member, and was not asking a question about Barbelith, but about Mathlete.

There are other members, also not new, asking questions without getting told to go elsewhere.
I can see your point about the topic of the question, but I can also imagine how mathlete might have seen it as relevant to this thread. I think you could argue he's asking about barbelith ettiquete, specifically how his understanding of it might be augmented so that he doesn't get the negative experience he currently feels he is getting.

There is an element of blame suggested by his phrasing;
Is there a particular reason as to why whenever I post to any thread on the board, I get a snarky response goading me?

...but I think it can be seen as a request for clarification as to what etiquette he has contravened.

And Haus, I'd appreciate you letting Randy answer the questions directed at him about his posts before calling threadrot and dismissing his right or his perceived obligation to reply.

16:32 / 05.07.07

What do you think causes these attitudes?

This Devil's Advocate thing is getting boring now.

Do you think my boring approach and attitude are a product of the posts you have generated?

ONLY NICE THINGS

16:36 / 05.07.07

If Randy really feels obligated to throw himself into another of your patented Policy hijacks, that is his affair, absolutely, but I would prefer it to happen elsewhere. No Policy purpose is being served by this.

(On preview) In fact, your latest post to Randy appears to be simply trolling the thread. Please stop this and let the new members ask basic questions about Barbelith.

16:45 / 05.07.07

patented Policy hijacks

If you think this is a thing I do and it has negative impact, please, start a thread about it(or add to an existing thread, if it seems apposite) and we can assess my behaviour so that it becomes more acceptable and positive.

your latest post to Randy appears to be simply trolling the thread.

It was an attempt to find out if his assertion, that the nature of responses is attributable the posts which the respond to, is a rule he would apply universally. I believe it is not trolling, but a fair response.
But of course if you believe I am trolling, please take that up.

18:17 / 05.07.07

No, you're right. This isn't boring at all.

Jesus fucking Christ.

20:09 / 20.07.07

Do we have a general sex thread to ask questions about... sex?

20:12 / 20.07.07

I googled "SBR" but nothing seems to fit. Help, Barbelith?

Phex: Dorset Doom

20:16 / 20.07.07

Well, when a mommy and daddy love each other very much...

To answer your question, no, there's no general SBR thread- perhaps there could be, but I imagine that a) it may turn into a discussion of whether we should have an SBR forum and b) it's really, really ripe for abuse, whether it is tagged NSFW or not.

00:12 / 21.07.07

Sex as in sex & gender, or sex as in fucking?

05:39 / 21.07.07

fucking.

06:57 / 21.07.07

No.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

07:52 / 21.07.07

I suggest that you clearly mark it and bung it in the Conversation. We have, on occasion, managed to sustain serious discussion there but you take your chances really.

19:14 / 26.07.07

Sorry if it's already been answered, but... erm.. What does SBR stand for? Does it relate to NSFW material? Why is there a need for a separate acronym?

Thank you

Regrettable Juvenilia

12:51 / 27.07.07

It stands for Sex, Body and Relationships - which is what a forum dedicated to those overlapping issues might have been called, if it was agreed that one should exist. This has not been agreed (either in the sense of a clear consensus being reached that it's a good idea, or Tom Coates being able/willing to create a new forum), and so in the meantime some members of the board have been creating threads with the initials SBR in the title, or asking them to be added to the titles of existing threads, to indicate that they think these threads are the kind of thing that would belong in such a forum. The other desired advantages of doing so are that the threads are approached seriously and that it is indicated to anyone who might be unsure that this kind of subject matter is what these threads will contain... however the latter is usually clear from the title. Overall, personally, I find this a somewhat Quixotic affectation, but I guess relatively harmless in the context of this ruined land etc etc.

07:38 / 29.07.07

I'm totally prepared to make a new forum, and quite capable of doing so, if we agreed it was the right thing to do. The question, however, is whether it is the right thing to do. We've added fora to the board before and often they've not survived very well and—if you ask people what they'd like added to the board—a lot of people want very different fora. On the whole the best thing from my perspective is to limit the amount of new fora as much as possible. If we do come to the conclusion that it would be a sensible thing to add that forum (ie. that it would encourage the right kind of discussion and would get sufficient traction), then we will of course do so.

11:56 / 10.08.07

How do I view my own posting history? Clicking on other posters' names gives me theirs but clicking on my own only presents me with my login details.

Thanks!

12:02 / 10.08.07

Click the "Update" button. That'll getcha where you want to go.

12:21 / 10.08.07

nice one, Monk - thanks.

Man, looking at that it seems I bring nothing to the party...

must post more.

shockoftheother

00:37 / 12.08.07

OK, so... is there a specified protocol for what falls under the auspices of Head Shop and what falls under the Books forum? I'm asking because I want to start a discussion of the work of Hélène Cixous, which falls somewhere between gender identity, feminism, deconstruction and literary theory, and am unsure of where precisely to locate it. I'm not certain where the dividing line falls.

01:15 / 12.08.07

I think she's pretty Head Shoppy, unless there's a straight-up novel she's written I don't know about.

07:10 / 13.08.07

I would argue the distinction would tend to be between whether you're talking about the book or whether you're talking about the theories. If you were applying her thinking to a book, then it's in Books, if you were critiquing her theories, then Head Shop.

Janean Patience

07:14 / 14.08.07

I've thought about an Artistic Responses to September 11th thread, covering music, cinema, fiction, comics, contemporary art and all but don't know where it would go. To put it in any art fora would restrict it, it's born of a political event but not about political repercussions, and it's too heavy for the wayward Conversation. Suggestions gratefully received.

Regrettable Juvenilia

08:43 / 14.08.07

Head Shop?

Regrettable Juvenilia

08:43 / 14.08.07

I kind of think any kind of sustained cross-media cultural analysis should go there.

16:14 / 02.10.07

Although I'm not a new member, can anyone tell me why the feature for viewing a particular user's posting history was removed? I have a vague recollection that it existed once, but I maybe wrong.

(I only ask because of this thread, and was wondering how to go about finding previous posts by the offending user bacon. I've tried a few Google searches, but what if his username was different when the spiders last archived barbelith.com?)

16:34 / 02.10.07

bacon has always been bacon, as far as I know. I remember once putting a post of his up for deletion... two years ago, I think. It was vetoed. (Was it the Duke lacrosse rape scandal? Beginning of the Iraq War?)

The way to search for old posts is to use the user number, which is the end of the URL when you either roll over or click on the user name.

I think the last time we had search-for-posts-by functionality was when this place ran on phpBB.

ONLY NICE THINGS

21:06 / 02.10.07

It wasn't. Bacon has not changed his username, or indeed his approach, for some time. Your problem is locating him, as opposed to the various painters, philosophers and meaty foodstuffs also called bacon. Adding "Switchboard" to the search terms would help; he only really posts there.

Ah, interpost. What he said, really.

20:28 / 05.10.07

What is the current situation with the admissions process?

I have a friend who applied for membership about 2 years ago and never got word back. We've just been chatting and he'd still like to join up. Does he just need to send another email in?

ONLY NICE THINGS

23:26 / 05.10.07

Yes, probably. When it looked like the membership was going to be opened mechanically again, I held off on the email processing, but it looks like that's not imminent now, so I'll start up again.

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