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Phonogram: Rue Brittania

 
  

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KieronGillen
16:10 / 31.12.06
Oh - Newsarama have published the whole first issue, which may be of interest to people who haven't managed to see a copy in the flesh.

http://www.newsarama.com/ImageComics/Phonogram/01/Phngram01_full.html
 
 
lonely as a cloud...
22:24 / 11.01.07
*bump*
 
Number 4's out. 's very dense material; you'd have to know your Britpop quite well to follow it properly, and even better to get all the references without consulting the back-matter. Still loving it.
 
 
KieronGillen
07:56 / 12.01.07
Oh yes: Also, short preview here.

Except for me the final page doesn't work.

And it hasn't scanned particularly well, it seems, which is somewhat a shame when the zippatone... OR DEATH! look of the issue is one of the big points.

http://www.popcultureshock.com/phonogram-4-preview/40888/

KG
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
02:30 / 14.01.07
Issue 3 was the best one so far, but this is a whole other level. Yes, so I probably think that because Britpop was my music too, between the crucial ages of 15-18 in particular, but still... Luke Haines as sneering tour guide! And the whole construction of the myth, which works so well as a myth even as it's mocked for the fact that people aspire to think of it as such. The "torpor" of the Queen, in her big boots - yes, exactly, that was one of the biggest tragedies. One question: is the guy in the gutter saying it's nothing to do with him meant to be Graham Coxon?
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
04:16 / 14.01.07
loved #03. indie guy = creeeeeeepy. pod girl in the start [sorry, mind's fucked as of saturday night to remember] = creepy to, but more sad than anything else.

I'm looking forward to #4 to see how the time travel goes. the method's straight outta INVISIBLES, isn't it? brilliant.

also: makes me feel old, but that's how it goes.
 
 
KieronGillen
11:03 / 14.01.07
Callsign: Yeah. Probably should have mentioned that in passing in the backmatter.

KG
 
 
doctorbeck
15:05 / 15.01.07
just picked up issue 4, and my love of this series is on the record, but found myself a bit bored to be honest. it was like someone explaining a dream to you, you know if meant something to them and that there is soemthing interesting going on but it just isn't engaging you much at all.

best bit by far was the after-essay which in fact shows that this was anticipated, grappled with, thought about a lot and led to the trashing of the first version of this issue (any chance the script to that could be posted?). i think in the trade this will not be a big deal as readers skip merrily onto the next bit but after the wait and with a further one ahead i just felt nothing much happened.

now this may be because i bloody well hated brit pop and thought it was everything bad about indie music and culture writ large, with very few redeaming songs or stars come to that, or may be that i just prefer something else from my comics but sad to say the first issue that i haven't gushed over like a big fat fanboy. tho will read it again tonight and see if i think any different.
 
 
doctorbeck
07:55 / 16.01.07
another read last night, enjoyed it a bit more, managed to get over my knee jerk reaction to britpop icons but still think it missed the very good writing about the protagonists emotional life which made the journey through 1-3 hang together.

left me wondering if he will be redeemed by the end or still come out of it such a dick? i kind of hope he isnb't redeemed as it leaves more development for the next series.
 
 
KieronGillen
15:32 / 16.01.07
While nothing is confirmed yet*, I'll go as far as to say the next series won't have Kohl as the central character.

*I'm fickle, me.
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
23:41 / 16.01.07
I'm liking this, and the obtuse nature of this issue didn't dent that. In fact, I started to see how what the Britpop narrative was all about. Having said that, I was a young hipster in the UK when all that was going down, so maybe I got more of the references than some. I'm curious what I'd make of this without the cultural reference, and I worry that it might be the same phenomena where Scottish people enjoy Rebus novels more because they recognise the settings, and so forth.

The Gallaghers/mountain of faceless spectators was a powerful image, and something that I'd long had issues with myself, and as a critique of Britpop as a social phenomena was as good as anything I've come across, and superbly succinct to boot. Favourite moment: when Luke Haines says, "Who are you to begrudge their happiness?"

But I wonder if the narrative is really working when it needs notes to explain the context. I mean, it's great that such a comic can be published in this day and age, but as "someone who was there", the Luke Haines thing was obscure... seriously, when he first appeared, I thought it was the guy out of Ocean Colour Scene. And no-one wants that.
 
 
_Boboss
11:47 / 17.01.07
Oh right, just remembered I actually picked the first ish of this up the other week, guess it was a second printing or whatever as it hadn’t been around previously. Most annoying thing about it was the fact I’d buzzed my hair the day before and look uncomfortably like the main bloke, and he’s stood in the position on the cover that I was all ‘I want my hair like that’ when the elastica album come out – ah memories…

Memories all over this really, pleasantly, if guiltily so – the fleece is where I saw the super furry animals the week hometown unicorn was released, my first ginuwine britpop experience. interesting to set the first issue in bristol at all really – happily surprised it wasn’t camden for sure – I assume the location was chosen out of respect for the fact that while the mid90s indie scene was messing itself over britpop’s retroisms Bristol was actually coming up with the first distinctly british post-hiphop post-soundsystem sound. for added authenticity, someone calling him a wanker for having a plastic silver coat would have been perfect (and while we’re talking about clothes, why would you buy a t-shirt because you were ‘too damn cold’? unless maybe it’s a longsleeve, in which case, yuk, a superman longsleeve t-shirt? no sex for you, speccy.)

As a strange little indie comic I liked it more than I was expecting, I think it’s a welcome progression that there’s an image comic about obscure-ish music journalism there on the rack next to punisher. and as a new breed, post warren ellis book it’s a lot more interesting to me than casanova. I just thought the buffy bits were a bit jarring, unnecessarily tacked-on. (the bit where he’s supposed to be magicing himself on to the guestlist? it just looks like she’s just finding his name on the guestlist. or is that the point? And the fighty willow goddess rucking in the lavs – it just felt wrong. there is no punching in britpop, most of those involved would get beaten up by a deckchair) a more love and rockets soap opera feel to this would have been a bit smoother, though perhaps the fantasy element will play out better in later issues. I’ll more than likely pick the second issue up if it’s there next time I’m in the shop.

Backmatter though: any mackmatter’s always better than none but i wasn’t really in the mood for a lecture – reckon a piece in character by the main guy, or one of the other magicians, would have worked better, flesh out just what’s meant in the book by ‘phonomancer’. Bits of the glossary and that were fun though, and a letters page is always welcome.
 
 
Earlier than I thought
16:25 / 17.01.07
There might not have been punching in Britpop where the artists were concerned, but you should have seen the Sheffield Leadmill on a Saturday night in the 1990s...
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
16:41 / 17.01.07
Although I enjoyed this issue I don't know whether the lateness of the script had a knock-on effect on the likenesses of the various characters, it's difficult to go wrong with Britpop Jarvis but Damon, Graham and Justine? (And I only realised it was her when you mentioned in the notes that the king was meant to be Damon) However, that's a minor thing that didn't really affect my enjoyment of the issue too much.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
19:10 / 17.01.07
My favourite so far. I very much liked the idea of presenting the Britpop years (or 'load of old twaddle') as a sort of quasi-pagan, neo-psychedelic myth - Liam Gallagher as the necromancer's golum was a particularly nice touch, as was the Blur faction smacked-out, distant on the throne, or drunk and incontinent on the pavement outside the palace in Camden, denying responsibility. It was reference-heavy, and it must interesting to wonder how it's going to play out with readers who aren't familiar with most of them, but personally, as someone who used to live on the same street as Menswear, back in the day, I thought the writing got it about right. It was great/it was embarassing/it could have gone by and you'd have hardly noticed, that sort of thing.

The art though, seemed a bit rushed, or perhaps not that appropriate stylistically in the first place - It's been fine in the other issues, but I did find myself wondering what, say, Philip Bond might have done with the material here, had that been possible.

Though it's not especially helpful to say so at this point, I appreciate.

And basically, well done!
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:52 / 18.01.07
The King looks exactly like Damon in one crucial panel (it's a headshot, bottom of the page), and that's all you need - he doesn't have to look exactly like him in every single shot, since he's only a memory. The same is true of Luke Haines - he's not actually Luke Haines (now preposterously moustached, well-fed and thin on top), he's "Luke Haines", a collection of attributes that embody the songwriting persona of The Auteurs and other Haines projects throughout the era. Likewise the Queen need only be a cluster of signifiers: big boots, androgeny, the hair. I think the Graham Coxon panels are slightly more problematic just because he looks a lot like Kohl, and so could be mistaken for one of his memories as seen on page 2 - but otherwise, I thought the art in this issue was the best so far, and certainly not rushed.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
22:12 / 25.01.07
I'm curious what I'd make of this without the cultural reference...

It was reference-heavy, and it must interesting to wonder how it's going to play out with readers who aren't familiar with most of them,...

I was a little young for Britpop and also an ocean away. In the first issue, I was alright not knowing a damn thing about Britpop, the story held together well enough for me to enjoy it. The third (never found a copy of the second issue) had more references and several went over my head, hampering my enjoyment a little. Just a little. I stuck with it (obviously, reading the back notes helped a lot*).

This fourth issue is full of references that I did not get. I realized that the people in Kohl's memories were Britpop icons (if that's the word for it), but I had no idea who they were, or what they meant to Britpop in general, and so I had no idea what they meant to Kohl or the story itself. The same with the mound of people, which apparently represents an Oasis show that I had never heard about and as such meant little to me. Camden is in a similar position, to me it's just another city in England. It has no musical or cultural associations.

The end result was that I viewed the story as taking place in a world that I did not recognize. I'm sort of discovering the cultural impact of Britpop through this comic, which means I'm reconstructing it with the metaphors and symbols given to me. That, combined with the back notes and glossary, have put together a reasonably detailed picture.

The end result makes me ask: why would anyone define such a large portion of their identity with Britpop? Or, if he's connected to Britannia rather than britpop, is it a little silly to assume the spirit of Britain was asleep before Britpop and went under immediately after? Was the rise and fall of Britpop really that big a deal? Or is this a story of pop magic, where the lead magician has foolishly hitched his wagon to a cultural phenomenon that didn't even last a whole decade?

I like the idea of this comic. It's a neat idea. But I'm having a hard time believing that britpop was as big a deal as I feel it's being portrayed here (not surprising, as I wasn't paying attention when Britpop was apparently such a huge deal). I'm more than likely going to keep buying it, unless the long wait between issues makes me forget about it completely. Something's weird here, and I need to think about what it is.

I get the feeling that this comic just might not be at all directed towards me, which wouldn't necessarily stop me from reading it, but I can't help but think that it's impossible for me to get even close to the full effect of the book.


*It also helped me find some good music. Dude I totally love Kenickie! Am I weird?
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
23:10 / 25.01.07
Not at all. Incidentally, Kenickie's singer, Lauren Laverne, has become a successful TV presenter and radio disc jockey, and even appeared as a zombie in Shawn of The Dead, but I digress...
Anyway, as to why anybody would define such a large portion of their identity with Britpop: well that's sort of the point isn't it? It doesn't have to be Britpop- that just happens to be something Keiron Gillen knows and can write knowledgeably about. Change Kohl's raison de'tre to Manchester bands from the eighties or rave culture in the early nineties and you'd have a comic with different aesthetics and references, but it probably wouldn't be that different. To me Kohl is, like Rob Fleming from High Fidelity (book or film, take your pick- I pick film and stand by that), for want of a better word, a nerd. A dork, geek or poindexter. If he had hitched his wagon to Star Trek or Anime he'd look like the kind of person we think of when we hear the word 'dork', but he didn't, he picked music and, even though it consumes him to the same extent a Sci-fi/Anime obsession would, the lack of negative cultural baggage allows him to function (and, more importantly, pick up girls, which is arguably the same thing).
Or look at it another way, that he's following Kierkegaard's Narrative: the aesthetic experience he's obsessed with is music in general and Britpop in particular, he's a ladies man but doesn't seem to have had any long term relationships and he's obsessed with recreating a past experience- the Britpop era. Now, according to the linked article, he needs to experience the death of someone close (Britannia maybe?) to become what Kierkegaard calls a 'Knight of Faith'- a regular person.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
00:42 / 26.01.07
The end result makes me ask: why would anyone define such a large portion of their identity with Britpop? Or, if he's connected to Britannia rather than britpop, is it a little silly to assume the spirit of Britain was asleep before Britpop and went under immediately after? Was the rise and fall of Britpop really that big a deal?

I suppose in David Kohl's case, the Britpop years (roughly speaking about 1993 to 1997 - you're right to say it was short-lived, but up to a point that's what pop movements are like in the UK; Punk had arguably run out of steam after two years, three years or six months, depending on who you're talking to,) are identified with his early-to-mid twenties, I'm guessing; as much as anything else it's this, his unambiguous youth, that he can't let go of.

As far as Britpop being a big deal goes, well it was and it wasn't. On the one hand, it produced about ten good albums (off the top of my head, two by Blur, two by Pulp, two by Oasis, one by Elastica, one by The Manic Street Preachers, one by Suede, and, um ... oh yeah, I suppose a couple by The Auteurs) and even that's fairly controversial. The Manic Street Preachers, for example (and if you've not heard it, 'The Holy Bible' by them is really the cat's pyjamas, if said cat was in sort of a bad way while wearing them) had other things on their minds at the time. Belsen, the Republican party in the States, suicide as a solution to the problem of ageing - this was largely where they were at at the time, in a particularly slate-grey, but uplifting somehow, way. James Bradfield, the singer, said recently that in terms of rock and roll disappearances, Richey Edwards, their guitarist/icon deserved points for style, because it wasn't a bath tub in Paris, with a hot rock lady beside him, it wasn't even the poor guy sitting in a mansion on heroin, shooting himself as an odd sort of statement, it was a crap car with a stuffed ashtray in the rain on a motorway bridge, and he was alone. So the triumphalist Britpop spirit wasn't really anything to them, I'm sure they'd argue.

There was a sense though (and it must seem ridiculous now, even though it's ongoing) that when Britpop started, England was a second-rate country. That what emerged artistically from the UK was always going to have to play second fiddle to whatever was happening in the US. That while it was all right, quite quaint actually, that The Smiths existed, they were never going to be as good as Bruce Springsteen. Who was 'The Boss.' Not that I mean to pick on Bruce, particularly. The UK gave birth to such trans-Atlantic artistes as Annie Lennox from the Eighties, after all.

Anyway, and while it wasn't by any stretch of the imagination the only thing that was going on at the time, culturally, Britpop seemed to restore Britain to a sense of it's sense of cultural primacy, however vacuous it is was - Imagine George Bush Junior inviting Trent Reznor to the White House for cocktals, nibbles, and a brain-storming session, for example;

'Ok Trent ... Pleased to meet you ... Please don't do any, uh, what do you call it smack? In the White House's facilities ...'

But this was exactly the situation when Noel Gallagher (from Oasis) arrived at Number Ten Downing Street, at the personal invitation of the new PM. Tony Blair's ideas people must have felt that the glamour would rub off, somehow.

I could go on for hours here. But it's late, I'm rambling, and, I dare say, more later!

Hope this has been helpful; basically, imagine the POTUS taking advice off Robert Mapplethorpe and Sonic Youth.
 
 
doctorbeck
11:29 / 26.01.07
you see i would say britpop was a wholly retrogressive phenomena looking back to when england had some style and substance politically and aesthetically (1965 - 1979 basically) with the fabs, kinks and wire being the major points of reference (by oasis, blur and elastica respectively),

it was an inherently conservative music and took indie to an inherently conservative mainstream audience after 10 interesting but patchy years in the post-punk wilderness of C86 and shoe gaze,

it copped some baggy attitude and an ability to cross over from the indie-dance scene and then, as phonogram has stated very eloquently sold out big time.

meanwhile forward thinking england was getting all junglist as well as taking the deep house / techno / electro route to a genuine modernist musical and social agenda (multi-racial, cross-class raving and the criminal justice resistance teaming up with the dockers strike), and unlike the indie-dance days of 4 years earlier there was little cross over between britpop and the dance underground,

except perhaps at the Heavenly Social, which was pretty much the best thing that came out of that era.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:51 / 26.01.07
Isn't there a contradiction between criticising Britpop for being retrogressive while at the same buying into the Sandi-Thom-esque idea of when england had some style and substance politically and aesthetically (1965 - 1979 basically)? You can't get much more retrogressive and conservative than believing in that particular myth.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
18:55 / 26.01.07
But this was exactly the situation when Noel Gallagher (from Oasis) arrived at Number Ten Downing Street, at the personal invitation of the new PM. Tony Blair's ideas people must have felt that the glamour would rub off, somehow.

No shit? That's hilarious.

Hope this has been helpful

Certainly has. Many thanks to you and Phex.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
10:00 / 27.01.07
It's worth reading The Last Party: Britpop, Blair and the Demise of English Rock if you have any interest in the era, the musics and the politics. I can't remember off-hand whether Kieran mentioned it in one of the ends of issues. I think Haines is pretty much ignored but if you were lost by some of the references in various issues of the comic then this book should help give you some idea of what happened when and who the faces were.
 
 
sleazenation
11:23 / 27.01.07
As a religious upbringing in the mid-west is to Blankets so Britpop is to Phonogram

It isn't necessary to have had similar experiences to follow the plot, but it certainly enhances the experience.

What all this does do is make me nostalgic for Deadline the comics and music mag that ran between 1984 and 1995 and spawned Tank Girl.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
14:03 / 27.01.07
Meanwhile forward thinking england was getting all junglist as well as taking the deep house / techno / electro route to a genuine modernist musical and social agenda (multi-racial, cross-class raving and the criminal justice resistance teaming up with the dockers strike)

Um, that's slightly revisionist, don't you think? I ... sorry, people I know, spent a lot of their weekends in the Nineties in situations where they'd have been prepared to believe almost anything, and they/I don't recall the dockers being mentioned, even once.

It's fair enough to attack the Britpop movement, such as it was, for being musically backward, but I'm not sure if the dance scene at the time stood for a lot more than, I don't know, the right to feel free, and good on Friday evening, and then less so on Monday afternoon, feeling mildly suicidal back at the workplace.
 
 
doctorbeck
10:17 / 28.01.07
>Isn't there a contradiction between criticising Britpop >for being retrogressive while at the same buying into the >Sandi-Thom-esque idea...

fair point. but there was a hell of a lot of better music than brit pop around between thoese years, which had a real sense of seditious social change rather than drinks at number 10. as form mentioning my thinking in the same breath as sandi thom...outide, now sunshine

also fair point of the revisionist linking of rave to the dockers strike except that in 1997 i found myself in a leftist rave / arts collective and every one of us had been at the liverpool dockers march in london (1995?) when a load of free party ravers brough a sound system into trafalger square and it all kicked off into a wonderful anti-criminal justice bill / support the dockers outside rave with baton charges and the walls looking like they could come tumbling down at any minute and the resulting ripples led to a clear alliance between what might have been largely hedonistic apolitical ravers and leftist anhedonic left / union types over the next few years.
 
 
KieronGillen
21:21 / 29.01.07
God, I've got a lot to catch up on in this thread. While the conversation's looking after itself, there's a couple of things which I probably should talk a bit about.

Oh, Sleaze - absolutely with you on DEADLINE. Kitten and I gnash our teeth it's not around now (or, less, that we weren't around then). In fact, if we do a PG2 we're playing with a few things more obviously influenced by DEADLINE.

Anyway - another B-side for Issue 5.

 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
21:57 / 29.01.07
It'll be interesting to see if Suede turn up next issue (as a reference point of in the more embodied fashion of issue #4) - as far as I can tell, they're the only one of the really big Britpop names to have been barely referenced at all, with only a very passing allusion last issue. I'm assuming with the cover to #5, there has to be something on its way... right?
 
 
KieronGillen
18:25 / 06.03.07
God: 4 comes out tomorrow and I never got around the clarifying some of the stuff I wanted to. I'll do it now.

Doctorbeck: " (any chance the script to that could be posted?)"

Probably not that good idea - I suspect it'd cause more confusion that eludicating anything. The basic structure is the same - Kohl goes from A to B across a memory kingdom, starting in the club with the faceless conquests and ending in a shouting match in the court of the King. The main changes were frontloading the exposition so it didn't keep on dragging the story to a halt, expanding the scene with Beth and introducing the whole scene at Knebworth. In the original draft, it was only viewed in the distance from Waterloo Station. Quite a lot of detail changed - the zombies, for example, were more literal zombies than the anonymous hordes we ended up with.

Basically, it was rubbish. Only bit I kind of miss is a scene where Paul Weller (circa 1994) and Paul Weller (circa 1979) were beating up Paul Weller (circa 1985).

Doctorbeckagain:
"but still think it missed the very good writing about the protagonists emotional life which made the journey through 1-3 hang together."

The main reason why I expanded the Beth scene in the second draft.

Colonel Kadamon: "But I wonder if the narrative is really working when it needs notes to explain the context."

I'm always a little wary about making arguments about something merits on terms of "accessibility" when you personally got it. Part of me thinks the narrative actually works best for people who literally don't know *anything*. People who know a bit, are always thinking "Should I get this?". Those who don't, don't even try. I know the guy who mainly edits my stuff - the lovely J. Nash - is furious I include the glossary at all, as he believes it does distract people from the actually narrative by its mere existence. He's as separated from Pop culture as you can get, and "gets" it, so thinks I'm screwing up.

(Of course, the main reason the glossary is so chunky is that I just want to do as much back-matter as possible.)

TunaGhost: Everyone else has talked about the other issues you bring up but...
"Dude I totally love Kenickie! Am I weird?"

NO! YOU ARE THRICE BLESSED.

Steel Uterus: "It's worth reading The Last Party: Britpop, Blair and the Demise of English Rock if you have any interest in the era, the musics and the politics. I can't remember off-hand whether Kieran mentioned it in one of the ends of issues."

I thought I had, but may not have. Luckily, this is a handy reminder, as I wanted to do a Further Reading section in the final issue. The release of The Last Party was kind of influential on me deciding to do Phonogram: Rue Britannia, in that... well, I'd already had the idea. I was expecting people to start to do the nostalgia/history thing. The Last Party even APPEARING proved, to me, I was onto something.

Pretty neat book, and certainly a lot nearer the "truth" than the Live Forever documentary.

Sleazenation: "What all this does do is make me nostalgic for Deadline the comics and music mag that ran between 1984 and 1995 and spawned Tank Girl."

You, me and McKelvie both (plus one). For the seocnd series of Phonogram - which, it seems, we'll probably get to do - we're kind of embracing the Deadline ethos a bit more.

Flyboy: "I'm assuming with the cover to #5, there has to be something on its way... right?"

Not hugely. Suede are someone who kind of got lost between the cracks of the narrative - which was kind of my point. There's a load about 'em in the backmatter though.

Anyway, as I said earlier, Issue 5 is out tomorrow with KISSING COVER. There's a preview up, which I link to.



In other news it seems we MAY be having Luke Haines give us a quote for the trade. Which will be all kinds of funny if it happens.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
19:44 / 06.03.07
KG For the seocnd series of Phonogram - which, it seems, we'll probably get to do

Squeeeeeeeee!
 
 
lonely as a cloud...
12:29 / 07.03.07
Seconding that SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:51 / 07.03.07
I know the guy who mainly edits my stuff - the lovely J. Nash - is furious I include the glossary at all, as he believes it does distract people from the actually narrative by its mere existence.

I'm slightly sympathetic to this position, although "furious" isn't quite right (in general I think it's a bad idea to be furious about comics if you can avoid it, whether it's the amount of extra bumf in Phonogram or MARVEL HAS MADE TONY STARKS A BADDIE OH NOES). But I do sort of feel that Phonogram has more annotations/essays than it needs in the single issues. The last issue in particular felt unbalanced in that regard, which is a shame 'cos the comic itself didn't need anything added... I understand the idea of giving people more for their money, but I'd be more cautious, hold more back - it's like liner notes, sometimes less is more, and until the special edition, sometimes more is almost hubris.

Am I right in thinking that the trade won't contain the annotations? This would seem counter-intuitive were it not for the fact that the trade will probably end up being read by far more people...
 
 
KieronGillen
14:22 / 07.03.07
Worth stressing that "Furious" is just the way J Nash and I interact. He's a very passionate man.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
19:43 / 08.03.07
I gather the big guy with the sad eyes on Brighton beach is supposed to repesent *a noted music journalist employed by the Melody Maker in the Nineties*.

If so, shouldn't he be more bald than that? As well as perched up on a rock, possibly, like some sort of Lovecraftian mock-turtle figure, coated in primordial ooze?

That minor (and debatable, I suppose) detail aside, another really good issue, I thought.
 
 
KieronGillen
19:49 / 08.03.07
Well, yeah, but I didn't shown McKelvie any of the music journalists I'm riffing off, including - ahem - The Myth. Mainly because the journalists in the story serve a different purpose to the pop-stars - it's their writing rather than their actual appearance which matters.

(I need the distance from the real people more, as I'm literally putting words into their mouths. With the pop stars, I'm putting words in the *idea* of their mouths, which is a subtly different thing)
 
 
Alex's Grandma
03:37 / 09.03.07
I see what you're saying, but in the specific case (I'm guessing) under discussion, wasn't a lot of his work in the Nineties to do with an attempt to make the journalist the star of the piece, rather than the band? In the manner of (and I feel a bit sick saying this) Hunter S Thompson hypothetically interviewing The Green Needle Hovering Over Seattle, or related?

It's been seven or eight years since I read any of the man's work, but I still feel much the same. About it
 
  

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