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Grant Morrison's Batman

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22:43 / 03.06.09

He was mentioned in Batman #666 (as was the fireheaded guy, Phosphorus Rex)

03:28 / 04.06.09

Right, I'm off to bed to read issue one - it's a beautiful looking thing, from what I've seen!

16:22 / 04.06.09

That was great fun - a little bit of a set up issue, but GM knows how to write Damien and Alfred, so it seemed more like he was trying out Richard.

Enjoyable, if nothing really happened yet, and really great art.

06:48 / 07.06.09

Pyg gives me a case of the Novas. I've just met the jerk and I'm very scared.

Damien's Batmobile (read: Robin's Batmobile) is the best Bat Shark since the recipient of the Bat Shark Repellent in the 60s pilot. Shark go boom.

06:48 / 10.06.09

Can anyone summarise what happened in Battle for the Cowl? Or is 'Nightwing won' sufficient?

My Mom Thinks I'm Cool

13:06 / 10.06.09

I thought there was still one issue of Battle for the Cowl to go. guess I must have missed it at the shop.

spoiler: Jason Todd tries to become the new Batman. a few other less serious contenders toy with the idea. Nightwing disapproves. presumably, in the issue I missed, their fight concludes favorably.

what happened to Tim Drake? is he the new Nightwing or something?

ONLY NICE THINGS

13:50 / 10.06.09

He retires injured from being Robin, but in a daring assault on the brand may now be the new Red Robin. Dick Grayson is Batman and Damian is Robin unless or until Geoff Johns gets the whip hand, at which point Bruce Wayne is Batman, Tim Drake is Robin and Spoiler gets her arms pulled off. Jason Todd is dead again, but obviously not. Black Mask may or may not be the dead Black Mask.

Oracle, meanwhile, was in a miniseries called The Cure, which you might thank was about a cure for her paraplegia but wasn't, and involved people spending quite a lot of time in Second Life (inexplicably not being furries, but it takes all kinds).

I wish I could find the time to get to a comic book store to enjoy this stuff!

03:20 / 12.06.09

Dick Grayson is Batman and Damian is Robin unless or until Geoff Johns gets the whip hand, at which point Bruce Wayne is Batman, Tim Drake is Robin and Spoiler gets her arms pulled off.

No, no. When Geoff Johns takes over, Bruce Wayne becomes Robin, and Hal Jordan becomes Batman so Bruce can learn how it should be done.

Oracle, meanwhile, was in a miniseries called The Cure, which you might thank was about a cure for her paraplegia but wasn't

...but did involve more people becoming paraplegic, which allowed its title to make the jump from irrelevancy to actual anti-sense.

ONLY NICE THINGS

22:20 / 13.06.09

PLUS! I have just realised that I said a bit earlier:

I'm rather hoping for Jason Todd, myself, since he has so far been Robin and Nightwing, and once he's done Batman is going to end up having to dress up as Batwoman just to feel. Just to feel anything.

Called it! Toddy is totally going to come back from his latest death as Batwoman. Barbara Gordon outfit, then Cassandra Cain, then Kathy Kane. Huntress as an encore. Earth-1 and Earth-2 simultaneously.

23:04 / 11.08.09

very enjoyable BATMAN & ROBIN - waiting and looking forward to #3. #2's scene where it all goes horribly wrong was nice, as was 'you're ten years old, Damian!' and Damian's smugness. Dick's neuroses, Alfred's reassurance. Both Morrison and Winnick have latched onto the notion that Dick is a performer and he is playing a role. Looking forward to seeing the new Morrison Red Hood. Also, Pyg is creepy and Quitely continues to bring the goods. (although the second story arc won't be Quitely-drawn).

So, taking bets on how long Dick is Bats and before Bruce comes back from caveman-land? I say 6 months. DC doesn't want to be shamed by Marvel's "Captain America stayed dead for a good 2 years" thing.

02:11 / 03.09.09

So who's checking out the new Morrison/Quitely goodness, then? Professor Pyg...delightfully warped. I do think sometimes Quitely draws Damian's head a bit too big for his body, but if that's the only critique I've ever had of Quitely's stupendous art in the past 10 years, then so be it. I like the idea of a new Red Hood-not-written-by-Judd-Winnick (although I think Winnick is a decent superhero writer overall). The woman who escapes Prof. Pyg and becomes something... else is intriguing. Dick-as-Batman is enjoyable. Looking forward to next issue, even without Quitely art.

01:50 / 07.09.09

Really enjoyed #3. The Le Bossu dialog had me searching through the Batman issues until I found #681. And that search led me back to #666. If you haven't gone back to look at them yet, highly recommended.

14:11 / 09.09.09

Quite enjoying Batman and Robin too. Weirdly i'm kinda enjoying all the Batman reborn stuff, it's a lot better than the rest of the malarkey in the DCU at the moment.

05:52 / 11.09.09

I haven't got #3 yet, but I wanted to say that I got the Morrison-edited The Black Casebook out of the library, and I am really enjoying it.
It is naff at times (Bat-hound?), but it is also joyous! This is probably the best place to discuss it, no?

One thing I have noticed in those old stories, is how much it focuses on dressing up as other people.
It is really intriguing, but every issue has someone dressing up as someone else... [+] [-] 50-year old spoiler ...or changing into something else.

Lots of shifting identity.
For me, it's put a new perspective on Morrison's work on Batman, and even on Batman & Robin, where Dick Grayson directly refers to this.

No #3 yet as mentioned, but I am enjoying the B&R series too - except it feels like it's getting of the ground slowly.
A stark comparison with the compression of All Star Superman, and especially of those great fun Batman issues from the fifties.

15:44 / 11.09.09

Go Cameron Stewart! He's just been announced to draw the arc after Billy Tan, which seems to feature (Cam's arc, that is) Batman/Dick and The Squire (I suppose because Damian might quit again or something, such a pissy little kid)...

17:12 / 11.09.09

looking good!

18:09 / 11.09.09

That's fantastic - those horse-bikes show up in one of the Black Casebook stories!

08:47 / 12.09.09

Wow, that taxi must be going incredibly fast to be overtaking that bike on the right-hand side!

22:42 / 12.09.09

im a little concerned about what's going to happen to batman in the next half second when he completes his swinging arc, belly flops onto the asphalt, and gets run over by the taxi. But that's what cliffhangers are for!

16:15 / 18.09.09

Anyone read the latest issue?

some of Billy Tan's best work I've seen.

So does Scarlett carry knives or a deadly manicure?
did she do some serious training between issues? She seems much more competent than she was against the other Dollitrons

20:22 / 13.11.09

coming back to poke around after a long absence here...

Billy Tan's work has grown and improved tremendously, esp. from his run on Bendis' New Avengers. So, Jason gets takes away and yells a lot about "I'll be back!! They tried to kill me and I came back!", and Damian gets... seriously, SERIOUSLY injured? And this is why we have the Squire being Dick's Robin next issue (with art by the incomparable Cameron Stewart)... hmmmm, very interesting. I like seeing Damian in over his head, take that kid's ego down a few notches.

Love the Prince tribute cover by Quitely. So far, Batman & Robin has been good, but it seems like not a lot happens in each issue.

01:20 / 15.11.09

I like seeing Damien in over his head, too, but I also like watching him stripped down to the basics.

22:32 / 16.11.09

Billy 'shithouse' Tan is not B&R penciller Phillip 'rubbish' Tan, formerly of Chuck Austen's Uncanny and the 'Agent Orange' arc of Green Lantern. Nor is Tan Eng 'quite good, like if Ryan Sook had problems' Huat.

ONLY NICE THINGS

23:01 / 16.11.09

But I'm sure they are all three very talented and hard-working people, and we wish them nothing but success!

17:07 / 17.11.09

OPPS.. wrong name, but the arc is over... flaws and all.

Would have been nice to see it all illustrated with a mind towards establishing place as well as mood. Their base was a truck, neat but it would have been nice to actually see the truck and the surrounding area.

The Natural Way

13:43 / 21.11.09

right, if their base was a truck, how in fuck's name did they get it up on top of a building? how did flamingo get his bike up there too? slapdash shit like this really demonstrates immense laziness and lack of any editorial on morrison's part.

16:35 / 21.11.09

Been months since I've been here...hello all!

I have a theory (and I'm not sure if it's been stated previously, so forgive me if someone else has had it):

The dessicated Batman corpse Superman was holding at the end of Final Crisis #6 isn't the original Bruce Wayne--it's a Batman psycho-merge; one of the many that Mokkari and Simian were attempting to create during the post-RIP sequence, when they tried to make a Batman army.

If this is true and Dick throws it into a Lazarus Pit in the next arc, then the Batman that rises will technically be Bruce Wayne, with all the downloaded memories, trauma, etc. But flawed, because the experiment's conclusion was basically that you couldn't replicate a unique person like Batman through science (or God-science or whatever.)

Anyway, this is still a half-baked theory because it still doesn't fit in with the Blackest Night thingee going on now; either the skull Black Hand is holding is Bruce Wayne's, or a psycho-merge's, or the skull of a fake body that Dick switched into the unmarked Bruce Wayne grave. (The last option would make the Black Hand M.O. seem really stupid, btw.)

And as for the original Bruce Wayne--he'd have been transported through time or whatever displacement hoodoo the omega effect voodoos. Er...sorry if this sounds over-compicated...thoughts, anyone?

20:50 / 21.11.09

No, in Morrison's perspective, the (New) Gods are not limited by human reality.
Darkseid used the Omega Sanction before, in the Mr Miracle mini, in the Seven Soldiers concept. There, Shilo experiences the Omega Sanction while being "immersed" in a micro black hole. And when he manages to escape, his life goes on as it was before.
As I understand, for Batman, the Omega Sanction manifests in a state of superposition: He is dead, and and the same time he is lost at the beginning of humanity. And since his dead body is here, no one is going to look for him. He is dead and alive at the same time.

23:41 / 21.11.09

I like it, AD

C, a little too much rule making based on no evidence

ONLY NICE THINGS

13:04 / 22.11.09

In Ciarconn's defence, they used similar logic to explain why the new gods were all dead and then broadly alive again, why Orion died and then staggered several gajillion miles and got a different cause of death etc...

23:35 / 25.11.09

At this point, any theory's as good as the next.

It's the feeling of not being limited by human reality that has allowed me to create my empire of health clubs, ice cream parlours and other such sordid (according to the liberal press) business endeavours.

And I'm a success.

17:04 / 09.12.09

That was fast...

according to USA Today:

"In 2010, DC Comics will launch a new series created and written by legendary comic book scribe Grant Morrison. Batman: The Return of Bruce Wayne finds the original Batman trying to reclaim his memory, his identity and his proper place in time and space. "

GM says "Return is a fairly intricate time-travel story in which the world's greatest hero, the optimum man, is up against the supreme challenge to his ingenuity and skill. How does Batman get out of the ultimate trap? It has a mystery and an apocalyptic countdown going on, there are some major twists and reveals, and it sets up big changes to the Batman universe status quo.
The first episode is set in the Late-Paleolithic Era, the second is in Pilgrim-era Gotham Village, and we also get to see Gotham in Western or noir style.

Each of the stories is a twist on a different "pulp hero" genre — so there's the caveman story, the witchhunter/Puritan adventurer thing, the pirate Batman, the cowboy, the P.I. — as a nod toward those mad old 1950s comics with Caveman Batman and Viking Batman adventures. It's Bruce Wayne's ultimate challenge — Batman vs. history itself!

I've tried to thoroughly research each time period so that the stories work not only as at least fairly plausible reconstructions of life in the real 17th or 19th centuries but also as romanticized "pulp" versions too, while at the same time referencing the more extravagant history of the fictional DC Comics Universe in the background."

Artists include Chris Sprouse, possibly Frazer Iriving and some character design by Andy Kubert.

ONLY NICE THINGS

17:18 / 09.12.09

Friends don't call friends scribes.

18:49 / 09.12.09

if only gms comics were as good as his precis of what his comics will be about....

16:35 / 29.01.10

Most recent B&R is the best yet; chock full of great stuff. Batman in the UK (insertANARCHY IN THE UK joke here)! The Knight & Squire! Brilliant art by Cameron Stewart. This issue felt a lot more dense; felt like a lot more happened than recent issues. More of the patented 'mad Grant Morrison ideas' (TM), with a laundry list of British supercriminals. The UK equivalent of Iron Heights or Blackgate Prison in the DCU (but more along the lines of the Tower of London). Talia! A mystery! Bruce Wayner saw the Joker dealing a Dead Man's Hand in cards, now Dick-Batman sees a Brit creepy criminal dealing dominoes.

Quitely's cover is terrific, too. I like the tradition of the 'coming up next issue, a few teaser images' that's begun with this book (and I think Geoff Johns started it in JSA and Green Lantern). The two are friends, so it's not inconceivable that they're homaging each other with this 'page of teases'.

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