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Things that you find really attractive/exciting that aren't the 'hey bits!' norm

 
  

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ONLY NICE THINGS
12:48 / 02.02.06
Are we a dogpile yet?

I'm actually very attracted to dogpiles.
 
 
Chiropteran
12:50 / 02.02.06
Also, someone is bound to point this out, but don't any of you straight-boys-who-must-constantly-declare-your-straightness find some attributes sexy in anyone?

Well, I was quite explicit on that point, myself - a nice pair of hands on anyone is dead sexy (as is a sharp sense of humor, for that matter). As far as "must-constantly-declare-your-straightness," I brought it up specifically to make the point that this particular attribute is sexy in anyone, even people who might not otherwise catch my eye.
 
 
Sniv
12:56 / 02.02.06
Haus - I'm sorry, but I'm loving the unintentional comedy of Mister D commenting on the preponderance of "a girl who..." heteropoint, followed almost immediately by John raising the stakes with "My. Girl. Friend."

What's your beef, Haus? Sorry for not having an alternative sexuality/hiding my rampant straightness.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:00 / 02.02.06
Dude, chill. It was just funny timing. If you're a bit defensive about your sexuality as well, that's not really something I was aiming to draw attention to. Although it does make it even funnier.
 
 
Sniv
13:02 / 02.02.06
Mr Disco - heteropanic. Following on from my lil' jibe at Haus, is it not okay to mainly like one sex? I can't say I've had romantic feelings for many men I've met, and find nothing any of my males friends do remotely sexy. How is this heteropanic? I like girls. Or women. Or ladies. Whatever you want to call them, I like 'em. What's the problem?
 
 
Sniv
13:03 / 02.02.06
Haus - *slides down in chair* gotnuffintobe'barrasesabout...
 
 
Axolotl
13:13 / 02.02.06
I did wonder about being more non-gender specific (and did later on in my post widen my criteria to include anyone on stage enjoying themselves) but as someone who almost exclusively identifies as het felt it would be perhaps a little disingenuous to do so.
Also as Mordant pointed out my particular kinks seem to be the contrast between stereotypical gender roles and the activity, and thus the gender becomes relevant.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:18 / 02.02.06
Haus: I'm actually very attracted to dogpiles.

Dude. Think about what you just said.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:22 / 02.02.06
I am. I am. Cream horn?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:24 / 02.02.06
To answer for Mister D, I _think_ the point was that GGM started this thread to ask about the things we found attractive that were not body parts, i.e. were not associated with physical bodies. In which context, the reprivileging of the physical body through the back door - by specifying the gender of the person in whom you find that behaviour attractive - might be seen as significant. However, I think MC is right that this is certainly not the only thing that is being done with gender - many people were specifying that what they found attractive in gender x was something traditionally characteristic of gender y. Of course, that has its own complexities - for example, toksik locating being funny as a masculine characteristic.
 
 
Char Aina
13:24 / 02.02.06
unintentional comedy or no, it does kinda come across like you reckon, possibly along with disco dave, that referring to one's girlfriend is crass and to be avoided.
i didnt think it was all that funny, but then i didnt think john's boy was exploding with maleness and i didnt think that doctor boogie was making all that salient a point.

i guess it would be better if we all just waited for clarification of exactly what ze meant.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:25 / 02.02.06
Did you read the Authority's Tom Peyer run, toksik? That might be an issue.
 
 
Char Aina
13:34 / 02.02.06
toksik locating being funny as a masculine characteristic.

we-ell, kinda.
my funny and funny are not the same, and i dont know that it is fair to say that funy is masculine so much as my funny seems to be from my experience. i am perfectly willing to accept that its my limits andc boundaries that stop me from seeing the humour in the jokes of the women of my acquaintance.
so yeah.
its a characteristic that i find rare among the women i meet, and therefore one that seems novel in that same small group.
 
 
Char Aina
13:37 / 02.02.06
i am unfamiliar with the work of mr peyer, and as a result unsure of whether or not the authority which i have read is the relevant text.
i forget the name of it.

would i find it sexy?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:37 / 02.02.06
Sorry, yes - point taken.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
13:40 / 02.02.06
I reckon a lot of people locate funny as masculine. It's like, if a woman's funny she's doing funny--it's an effort for her, not something natural. The extension of this seems to be that she is Doing Funny to impress someone. I mean, I can't be the only woman here who's had that thing happen where you make a bloke laugh and he gets all weird and thinks you're trying to pull.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:45 / 02.02.06
i am unfamiliar with the work of mr peyer, and as a result unsure of whether or not the authority which i have read is the relevant text.
i forget the name of it.

would i find it sexy?


Possibly - it's the story with the replacement Authority. Specifically, it's just that John accidentally quoted Last Call, the overcompensating replacement Midnighter - first with "My girlfriend" and then with "I like girls!". It was what you might call a textual resonance.
 
 
Disco is My Class War
13:51 / 02.02.06
Heteropanic: the concern to specifiy that one is straight and that therefore one likes girls (if one is male) and so on.

To explain further: as Haus eloquently argued, GGM originally asked about non-obvious characteristics: things that are not about a person's "bits" -- by which I assumed she meant body parts, including genitalia if we want to get literal. I don't really give a toss if someone only likes one gender. I was simply struck by how really, really unreflective and revealing some of the responses were: liking the "hair lying on the pillow"? Um, that's a body part. A woman who says 'cunt' and drinks pints? Great, someone who doesn't make you feel bad about your masculinist misogyny but supports and participates in it. Why does one need to mention gender, in this context? What would happen if you didn't?

And dudes, maybe I shouldn't be making assumptions about gender here, but given the response, I feel it was a safe assumption to make. Apologies if my assumption was wrong.

To rephrase my point into a question, because I did ask a question, even if it was hidden in snideness: do people who are 'only attracted to one gender' ever find themselves turned on by a particular thing in persons of the 'wrong' gender?
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
13:53 / 02.02.06
Also, someone is bound to point this out, but don't any of you straight-boys-who-must-constantly-declare-your-straightness find some attributes sexy in anyone?

No, and I'm at a loss to think of a way to proclaim an attraction to an attribute, excluding when demonstrated by male presenting males without alluding to gender. Any suggestions?
 
 
Whisky Priestess
13:54 / 02.02.06
I think funny is a collective effort, a two-way street if you will. Unlike with certain other skills, being funny (rather than good at the piano, a great climber etc.) is something you can only do with an audience. You can tell the gag, but someone else has got to laugh.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:54 / 02.02.06
Actually, this got me thinking - is "having a cock" a body part in a man but a characteristic in a woman?
 
 
Char Aina
13:54 / 02.02.06
you make a bloke laugh and he gets all weird and thinks you're trying to pull.

possibly that's because for a good few blokes, that is exactly why they do funny. not me, i just crave attention and use the funny as a way to distract people from my flaws. pulling is just the polite way to end an evening leading a body on with laughs.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
13:56 / 02.02.06
Is there such a thing as homopanic?
 
 
Whisky Priestess
13:58 / 02.02.06
To clarify: because I believe I've seen what Disco refers to as "heteropanic" referred to as "homosexual panic" - I presume they are the same thing, no? And do non-hets display the same characteristic (and if so, what's it called)?
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
14:02 / 02.02.06
Actually, this got me thinking - is "having a cock" a body part in a man but a characteristic in a woman?

Yeah, we call it porn.

Not sure if being in porn could count under GGMs criteria though.
 
 
My Mom Thinks I'm Cool
14:09 / 02.02.06
when she experiences something exciting/wonderful/new and her eyes get all huge.

how she smells when she gets up in the morning and goes for a run without showering.

when you're in a "meeting" full of argumentative dipshits and she suddenly pulls you all together to a peaceful, productive conclusion.

when she's talking about where she's been/what she's done/how she feels about it and it's like I'm listening to myself talk, only nicer and wiser.

sorry but those seem she-specific. Non-gender specific sexy: hands, feet, hair, good dancer, good singer, good artist, being driven to do something unusual with yer life, good drinker.

Also I'm definitely classist - poor girls are way hotter than rich girls. Is it just me feeling self-concious about how crap all my stuff is and assuming she wouldn't be interested? Kind of an us-against-them mentality? Something else?

Was at a party sitting in a chair and talking to a girl who was standing up. I said, "should I stand up? you look uncomfortable" to which she replied "oh, I'm always uncomfortable" and did this weird awkward duck her head and cover her face thing. And was totally serious. I think you could hear my heart go "Boing!".
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
14:09 / 02.02.06
TSK, you big old nobber, there's a lot more to gendertalia than that. We have a whole thread on this way back when.
 
 
Char Aina
14:11 / 02.02.06
Great, someone who doesn't make you feel bad about your masculinist misogyny but supports and participates in it.

uh-huh.
saying cunt is misogynist, then?
in all contexts?
it may well be, sure, but i personally feel that someone saying it is not necessarily related to any kind of stance on misogynistic language at all. feel free to explain to me why i am reinforcing the patriarchy and putting back the cause of freedom and justice for all back centuries.



Apologies if my assumption was wrong.

apology accepted.
 
 
Chiropteran
14:18 / 02.02.06
It's like, if a woman's funny she's doing funny--it's an effort for her, not something natural.

I've noticed the same sort of attitude - my impression is that (some/many?) people often attribute humor differently: a person says/does something very funny, and if ze is female she "said/did something funny," and if ze is male he "is a 'funny guy.'" (This is a bit of a tangent for this thread, but I think it might make an interesting Headshop discussion - the social dimension of humor, and the ways in which humor is often perceived as a function of gender.)
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
14:20 / 02.02.06
TSK, you big old nobber, there's a lot more to gendertalia than that. We have a whole thread on this way back when.

Yeah, I know.

I don't suppose anyone here finds compulsive stupidity attractive?

Didn't think so.
 
 
Chiropteran
14:23 / 02.02.06
I don't suppose anyone here finds compulsive stupidity attractive?

Some people, apparently, find it irresistable.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
14:27 / 02.02.06
Pants brigade: Dude, read past the seventh word of the title?

Whisky P: Basically the same thing. Homosexual panic is a sudden fear that you have overstepped the bounds from intense homosociality to homosexuality. What is interesting about the "girls who drink pints/swear/etc" dynamic here, possibly, is that it's a heterosexual way of saying "women who are more like men as I understand men to be than women usually are" - what in my day we would call a clubbable young woman. Perhaps the unspoken complement would read "I am attracted to (men and) mannish women".
 
 
Char Aina
14:31 / 02.02.06
well,i certainly fancy boyish girls and those who have the shouty verbals and the fighting skillz, so maybe you are on to something.

i just want to be held! in a full nelson!!
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
14:49 / 02.02.06
"clubbable young woman."

'Wot, like you'd club a seal? I think that's taking it a bit far.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:50 / 02.02.06
I've always had problems/fun with the word "clubbable".
 
  

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