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House of M

 
  

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Our Lady Has Left the Building
18:58 / 04.11.05
Mork of the Breakworld is hardly Whedon's moment of glory. The annoying thing is that the bastard will be back.
 
 
The Falcon
20:03 / 04.11.05
Nor Danger.

But that Agent of SWORD wummin's alright.
 
 
This Sunday
20:21 / 04.11.05
The idea that Magneto was even the slightest bit right/noble/justified annoys the hell out of me. Magneto was/is a maniacal fascist paranoid on a vengeance trip that's lasted sixty years of in-Marve-U-time, if the WWII stuff still stands, which is seems to. He can be forgiven, he can move on, but he hasn't and every time he's had a chance he's screwed it up and his bitter, pretentious bloodlusty sensibilities get the better of him.
And no 'But he's sexy and persuasive and women love him the world 'round!' Women send love letters to sociopathic serial killers, too. People *vote* in some of the most horrible bastards ever allowed to command a government and its army.
To steal and muddle a line from another recent comic: The last time he really inspired anyone was when he was dead.

Anyhow, I just reread the whole 'House of M' and noticed that Emma Frost is noted as the leader of the X-Men. I don't recall this from a proper X-series, but I whole-heartedly approve. Would explain why she's in more series regularly than any X-person not named Wolverine.

See, there's a person who did some questionable, villainy things - with an interesting set of politics, theories, and sex appeal - who made the leap to heroic and useful and has not fucked it up. And she's sleeping with Scott Summers, which I'm pretty sure Magneto never managed. So she's like two points up on him. With the wit, the humor-getting, and the ability to quote Byron all mentioned by Dr. McCoy: Way ahead.

I do like Millar's spoiled-rich-boy-Maggie, though. Takes the sympathy right out, but keeps him empathetic *enough.*
 
 
FinderWolf
13:41 / 05.11.05
I pretty much agree with Daytripper - although there was that period where Mags took over leading the New Mutants in place of Charlie for a while as he was trying to reform, in the mid-80s or something. And in recent issues of Excalibur, Claremont shows Mags and Charlie talking like old buddies and Mags sounds decidedly more peaceful and pacifistic (since the Morrison-run Magneto has been retroactively established to not be the real Mags).

So basically we have a Super-Villain who has tried to reform once or twice but it never lasts long, he usually rapidly results to being eeevil (which was what Morrison was trying to do, I think - return him to his eeevil roots). Although it seems now he's somewhere between villain and not-villain, since he's chillin' with Prof. X in Excalibur and didn't do anything evil in House of M.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
14:49 / 05.11.05
(since the Morrison-run Magneto has been retroactively established to not be the real Mags)

House of M fixes that.

Xorn was Magneto and Wolverine did kill him, Wanda just recreated him like she re-created Hawkeye and Quicksilver.

It's not the best fix, but it keeps both the integrity of Morrison and Claremont's runs respectively without the "it was an imposter" kludge of Claremont's.

I think the tragedy of Magneto is his potential nobility. I mean, wasn't that what the Xorneto story was, in large part, about? Stripped of his baggage, he could be a healer, a far superior teacher to Xavier, a real leader. But instead he choses to be a bigoted, psychotic, hate-monger and fucktard (who all the ladies looove).
 
 
Triplets
16:21 / 05.11.05
Exactly. Xorn had the same secret origin as Magneto (oppressed/imprisoned because of his race) but instead of choosing to wage war on humanity he decided to learn, forgive and move on (well, as long as you ignore the whole turn-my-head-into-a-black-hole-and-swallow-the-Earth, but that was just theatrics). Summed up in Xorn's final words to Magneto:

"I am your inner light, Erik. And I will never let you be"

Another externalised conscience.
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
17:40 / 05.11.05
What actually happened?

A few members of the X-Men and Avengers were wisked away to an alternate world where writers were politely asked to contribute to a half-assed cross-over that might have implications in the future of Marvel Comics. A few spinoffs that in some cases (House of M: Spider-Man) seemed to deviate from the basic idea of the main mini-series. Wolverine was made head of SHIELD... only to jump ship (literally) and ride a bike around this somewhat different universe while a guest writer struggled to come up with a halfway decent story since Bendis couldn't be arsed. Spider-Man... same thing but Mark waid's story ends in a way that doesn't exactly contradict the House of M story but definitely takes it in a different direction... any direction is fine as Spider-Man in House of M goes from jokey to confused to one half a 'who's on first' routine with Iron Man who does not remember what he did in House of M or his mini-series spinoff which no one else can be bothered to recall either.

Paragraph break.

Breath.

A lil girl named Lyla wearing a 666 T-shirt seems to unlock everyone's ability to realize they are in an altered reality... which prompts little response aside from 'wow... yeah, I guess it's different... let's kill Wanda and Magneto.' Lyla promptly disappears until the last few pages of issue 8... much like my interest in the series. Who was Lyla? Do we care? Is she getting her own series we'll have to read to figure out what the hell she was supposed to be? Who knows. I'm surprised I haven't any of you guys bring this up, it seemed important through 90% of the series to me.

Issue 7 is a half-assed fight ending in another lovely white vagina flash as in issue 1.

Issue 8 results in a lot of staggering about, confused and less $24 and a half-assed 'search' for Magneto resulting in a lot of yelling and they leave him.

Hawkeye, a character most readers didn't care about until he died... comes back... thus making Bebdis' handling of him even MORE pointless than it already was. What, is he getting his own series that no one will buy? What was the point? The Pulse issue he was in was very well done but only if it furthers the development of the character. And I highly doubt it will.

Then the series ends in a totally bizarre spech from Hank McCoy about how Mutants are somehow part of the ecological system and without them the world might be in danger... from a red swirly thing in space, apparently.

Oh and most of the mutants are no longer mutants and they have to leave the comic pages and look for work which pisses me off because the job market is hard enough as it is. This also punches a huge hole in numerous iterations of the entire core idea of the X-Men as defined byu Claremont and Morrison which centered on a haven for mutants and a place for them to learn (hence the school as their HQ).

Magneto's loss of his powers sticking in continuity is a concern, but surely the bigger one is that this series did fuck all. It's 3/4 of a story at best and the remainder whill be played out in the spinoffs... which any casual Marvelite knows smells of 'come back in a year and it will never have happened.' There were numerous opportunities for character growth that were tossed aside and all we're left with is a 4 cut page of ads for new comics we're expected to read if we give two shits.

Oh and Wanda is finally getting some shopping done.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
14:14 / 06.11.05
I read the final issue now, and it's actually a good start to a story if it will have a real ending which involves the reversal of the "decimation" and a satisfying resolution with the Scarlet Witch.
 
 
FinderWolf
15:40 / 07.11.05
Mike Deodato will be the new artist on NA, and Bendis said today on Newsrama that “The story [Deodato's first story arc] deals with what Hank Pym was talking about at the end of House of M #8 and that energy signature that was seen on the last page – it wasn’t the sun coming around the earth – it was something...different."
 
 
Uatu.is.watching
17:48 / 07.11.05
Maybe it's the return of Phoenix. She could fix everything next year...
 
 
Aertho
17:52 / 07.11.05
Smells like crutch.
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
18:32 / 07.11.05
I've heard from comic shop employees that this week's comics make up for it and are 'amazing.'
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
18:54 / 07.11.05
New Excalibur and The Day After? They seem to be handing the ball off to Claremont. I'd be happier than anyone else to see him return to form with this stuff, although Excalibur just ain't Excalibur without Alan "Technet" Davis. The Outback Days writ large in A World Without Mutants? I believe in you, Chris!
 
 
FinderWolf
23:08 / 07.11.05
Does Mister Six mean comics which come out this week that follow the House of M plotlines...? or was it totally tongue-in-cheek?
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
11:49 / 08.11.05
No tongue, no cheek, all hearsay from my local that the follow-up books are very good and as you might be able to surmise from my posts it's not my trying to drum up interest as I happen to hate the mini.

So you loyal Marvelite will have to let me know.
 
 
FinderWolf
00:52 / 09.11.05
Bendis gives an interesting reading on the existence of Wonder Man in this excerpt from a very recent Newsarama interview...

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NRAMA: That said though, when Wanda did give everyone their deepest desire, which gave Wolverine everything, she also planted the seed that led to the downfall…

BB: Yeah – but was Wolverine the only seed?

NRAMA: Right – presumably, she let Layla Miller exist, and she was more of the mechanism that led to her downfall…

BB: Right. We can talk about Layla Miller, we can talk about Magneto too. She left weaknesses that could easily be exploited if the right events took place – which they did. We don’t know how long Wanda had been screwing around with stuff. She clearly had something like a multiple personality disorder with her kids, who were representing different voices in her head. Could Layla be one of those?

Heck – could Wonder Man be one of those?

NRAMA: Why are you bringing him into this?

BB: Go back to Kurt Busiek’s issues of Avengers, when Wanda just barfs Simon out of nowhere, because, pretty much, she wanted him to exist. He’s still alive and thinking and walking around, but he could just be an aspect of Wanda that’s broken free – or allowed to roam free on its own.

NRAMA: And that’s something Simon doesn’t want to give too much thought to?

BB: Yeah, and that was a subplot that I left for another day. Even back in issue #1 – Simon wasn’t talking at all about what they should do with Wanda, even though they had been lovers and very romantically entangled before. In my mind, Simon was hanging in the back thinking, “Oh maaaan…what the…who…what am I? Am I going to be dead again?”

But in the end, I had to leave that for another day.

So there is that – even in creating this entire world, Wanda’s doubts and uncertainty still shows up and manifests itself in different ways – or in different people.
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FinderWolf
00:53 / 09.11.05
Although it's kind of a kooky take on Simon Williams, I think it's a valid reading since Wanda was constantly summoning Simon out of the ether in the Kurt Busiek run. And he is just made of energy...
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
11:44 / 09.11.05
As an Avengers junkie, I agree that's it's a valid reading but couldn't he be fucking bothered to put that and even the Layla bit into the script??!!

This ain't a fucking mystery, Bendis, it's a comic.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
16:23 / 09.11.05
You know, would it kill Marvel to raise their artistic standards, especially when it comes to what is supposed to be such a monumental issue. Really lackluster art here.

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The Day After Was Pure Shit. It's so painfully obvious that Mutant Heroes all retained their powers and all the scrubs no one ever heard of are all of a sudden powerless. And sad or angry about it. Or both. Best/Worst/Best Again Part? The US Government initiates O*N*E, the Office of National Emergency.

"Okay, guys, put your heads together and come up with an acronym that starts with O, ride some of that OMAC gravy train. Like 'O.N.E.', only more...proactive."
"You guys okay with O.N.E.?"
"Yeh."
"Yeah."
"Okay."

It's a bunch of guys running the sentinels, only it's unclear what exactly they're supposed to be doing. Really sloppy stuff here on every level. It had like a three second window to be completely badass, but that's gone now. No drama, no peril, only hackneyed references to terrorism and, again, some of the least appealing art I've seen in a while. I could go into all the lame ass detail, Iceman running the the Mutant Crisis Hotline (DRAMA!) but I could just care the fuck less.

Truly the Poochie of Cross Overs.
 
 
rabideyemovement
18:17 / 09.11.05
He did put the Layla Miller thing in the script. It was in House of M 7, although just one sentence, so it's easily missed...

Dr. Strange: You created young Layla Miller to give us hope (or something to that effect)
Wanda: Did I?
 
 
Quimper
19:02 / 09.11.05
To be fair, HOM: The Day After is a necessary evil. It's the transition between HOM (which was just the beginning of Marvel's new direction) and the resulting titles.

It sets up most of the plotlines that will be in the main/new books.

• The upcoming Sentinels story arc in X-Men.
• Roger McEwan being pursued by the villians in New Excalibur
• Mutants losing their powers in everything, esp. 198 and Generation M.
• The tailoring down of the mutant cast of characters at the Xavier Institute (via Emma's decision)
• Storm not returning to the mansion and staying in Africa (Storm limited series)
• Jamie not going to the mansion and keeping Wolfsbane and Strong Guy in Mutant Town (X-Factor)

This book is a bridge disguised as a story. It had to happen.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
19:13 / 09.11.05
Well, all comics are that, Countdown To Infinite Crisis was that, but it was at least competently drawn, written, and executed.

Not really a valid excuse. This is supposed to be a monumental piece of X-Men Arcana, the first step in a bold new direction. It is, instead, absolutely horrible barely legible garbage.
 
 
Quimper
19:21 / 09.11.05
Very true. Just poor execution.

Now you want to talk SUCK, read New Excalibur.

Good cast. But no real style or identity. And the villians are the dumbest thing I've seen in a while.
 
 
rabideyemovement
19:36 / 09.11.05
Excalibur was horrible. The Day After I enjoyed as it was really just a segue into the other House M fall-out titles. I thought it was well written, but damn! who okayed that artwork? The art was wretched!
I love Bendis' idea regarding Wonder Man. I love the idea that Wanda's powers may have had larger consequences on the Marvel U than we first assumed.
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
20:06 / 09.11.05
I won't beat a dog that's been dead for weeks but having the Scarlet Witch also unclear on the point of Layla doesn't really do much, does it?

Oh and Peter 'Brian Michael-who?' David is writing a Wonder Man mini for Marvel so don't expect much there. I'm not exactly bitching about Bendis but editorial management here.

They really really REALLY dropped a series of balls here.
 
 
rabideyemovement
20:34 / 09.11.05
I won't beat a dog that's been dead for weeks but having the Scarlet Witch also unclear on the point of Layla doesn't really do much, does it?

It will, if they come back to Layla later. If Layla didn't exist before House of M and now she does, then that's something. I'm pretty sure there will be some sort of resolution regarding her, but there could be a reason for being vague. Like what if Layla is still a figment of an imagination (and whose-- Wanda's or Pietro's?), what if she is someone reincarnated, what if she is now the channel for all that chaos energy? There could be a very good reason for sitting on that mystery. At least I hope there will be.
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
20:39 / 09.11.05
Right there with you, man.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
21:07 / 09.11.05
Keith's bet is:

Layla Miller is Professor X!
 
 
Mr Tricks
21:58 / 09.11.05
I was gona say the same thing. The Proff has always wanted to be a little girl...
 
 
Spaniel
07:24 / 10.11.05
I like that theory, it has an intuitive kick to it.
 
 
ThePirateKing
00:52 / 11.11.05
Yep, I think she's Prof X.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
12:21 / 31.12.05
Although 'Danger' was so bad I don't care that much, the whole 'House of M'/'Decimation'/'The Day After' thing really ballses up Joss's 'mutant cure' storyline over in 'Astonishing X-Men' doesn't it? No wonder they've taken the title down for six months for retooling.

Now the story becomes does the government use the cure to take out the last few muties, or do the X-Men take it themselves (yeah right)? At least Paty Cockrum was right about no inter-title communication in Marvel, when she could wipe the rabid Magneto fan-girl spittle from her chin.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
04:57 / 22.02.06



more here
 
 
doctorbeck
07:17 / 22.02.06
give that man a no-prize
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
21:05 / 22.02.06
That is fantastic.
 
  

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